I like this guy. He shows respect and love to a fellow Christian, even though he disagrees with him on some issues. A lesson for us all.

Augustine also did not believe in the literal millennial Kingdom of Christ. He believed the Jewish people as a nation no longer was part of God’s plan. His views on Israel were part and parcel of replacement theology.

@MichaelAntonio-nl3nl

4 ай бұрын

all christians universally have always believed in replacement theology and never believed in the literal millenial Kingdom until the 19th century.

@zenuno6936

4 ай бұрын

So he was correct. As Paul says in the letters, the sons of Abraham are the baptized believers. And that "By calling this covenant “new,” God has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear."Hebrews 8:13. Or as Jesus says to the Pharisees: you are not the sons of Abraham because you dont do his works. God's plan for Jews is for them to be converted and baptized like everyone else. The Church is the New Israel.

@nancybenson1951

3 ай бұрын

@@zenuno6936 God still has a plan for Israel and it is the millennial Kingdom. It is a promise God made to Israel long before Augustine came on the scene. Yes, jews convert to Christianity. They are saved by Christ the same way we gentiles are saved. But there will in the future be an earthly kingdom ruled by Christ for a thousand years. And a remnant of modern day Israel will rule and reign with Christ. I am not an expert on this but people as notable as John MacArthur believe in an actual millennial kingdom with Christ as King. And they believe it will take place in actual Israel. And the kingdom will last 1,000 years. So we take a literal interpretation of scripture whereas Catholicism, most Presbyterian churches, Lutherans take the allegorical view.

Had he heard of the theory/hypothesis of Time Dialation accompanying Space Dialation/Expansion as material world was in process of developing through God's Word as His Creation brought into being? Satisfying curiosity of seeming contradictions?

G-day Gentlmen I always find it amusing when scholars of theolegy try shirt the explaination that St Augustine himself was confronted with in as part of his of his investigation into the Genesis misteries he was also directed to study and explain if posible the Blessed Trinity wither one believed it, or is the question how was it possible for God the Almight to say He was three indies in one St Patrich had a simple way of explaining to none believers with the Shamrock not glover there are three destinst leaves on one stem when St Augustine was confronted with the problem and to him that answer I gave was to simple to contimplate but he found himself walking on the beach he noticed a child with a pale running down to the waters edge and filling the pale from the ocean and running back to a hole made in the sand this intriged him for some reason and he did not know why but he decided to watch anyway eventualy the hole filled and over flowed but still the child did not stop it got better of St Augustine so he asked the child why his answer his was as profound as the answer child looked towards the ocean and said I am trying to put the ocean into that hole. St Augustine it is believed give up his studies rather abrutly with no explaination. No one knew why that story has probably many varyations to it that is just one I remember reading fifty ago from an Ecleastical book plate printed a round the early eighteen hundreds on St Augustine life the book was destoryed like my grandfathers liberary by an uneducated mob while the police looked on my house was set alight when it didn't burn fast enough they blew it up while I was held at gun point in 1969. cheers gentlmen enjoy the story it is as I can recall reading it back then.peace ✌👍simplicidy is the key unless yeh become as little children you shall not enter my fathers Kingdom. Good nite Gentlemen Shalom.

The Church Fathers mostly believe in the literal sense, they then distill layers of symbolical/doctrinal/typological meanings, but these do not reject that the events actually transpired. They are simply squeezing the juice of what God wanted to teach us through those events.

So you are saying he doesn't believe God's word?

Yes Augustine had issues but understood Salvation is by God alone, not through the RCChurch

@MichaelAntonio-nl3nl

4 ай бұрын

unlikely since he believed what all other christians of the time believed, apostolic succession and primacy of the chair of Peter.

@mikefoht2738

4 ай бұрын

No he was not tolerant of born again believers. He is known as the father of the inquisition and believed that there was no salvation outside of the Roman Catholic church. He was in no way a good man. Neoplatonism is nothing more than hellenistic cult worship. It is mystism and demonic. It involves the worship of hellenists false gods. It is basically witchcraft. Augustine introduced lots of nonsense into the western church like determinism and maniceanism. He was an all around bad guy. The reason this professor is explaining how he mixed in neoplatonism is because the cult worship involved oneness. The oneness is nothing more than the devil himself.

@zenuno6936

4 ай бұрын

He was literally a Bishop....

I still believe the allegory meaning is what is meant to guide us. The meaning of the names gives the meaning of the stories especially when viewed with the meaning of scientific words used today such as Ribosomes tell us exactly what the story of Adam and Eve is describing. Ribosomes receive messenger RNA from the nucleus and reflects the wishes, given in the word across the waters (cytoplasm), of the nucleus by creating amino acids which are like letters and the fundamental building blocks of all life. It's the formula for imagination E equals MC2 says MC2 is the reflection of E or energy appears as everything as the morning and the evening make a day. ⚕️

St.Augustine is fully Catholic and a Doctor of The One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church+!and also a Creationist!!!! Like many are in the Universal Roman Catholic Church

@EarlyChristianBeliefs

4 ай бұрын

Amen 🙏

@TheElizabethashby

4 ай бұрын

AMEN

@bobwehadababyitsaboi103

4 ай бұрын

Thank you for saying such so I don't have to. I watch and follow this channel but I think the true issue the man speaking has is Catholic vs Protestant Theology

@johnmonk9297

4 ай бұрын

Your church calls herself the mother. She calls the protestant churches her daughters The true church is a chaste virgin. She is described in Daniel 7:25 and revelation 17:5. And God tells us to leave her and her daughters in rev 18:4

@steveOCalley

4 ай бұрын

The “Catholic v. Protestant” question is one of the 1400’s, AUGUSTINE wrote long before “Protestant” meant any thing.

He also promotes the heresy of absolute divine simplicity

@MrEmeralddog

4 ай бұрын

😮what is that??

@steveOCalley

4 ай бұрын

@@MrEmeralddogIt means “something philosophically incomprehensible that we must fight to the death about.”

@MrEmeralddog

4 ай бұрын

@@steveOCalley still don’t get it, is there an example?

@MichaelAntonio-nl3nl

4 ай бұрын

@@MrEmeralddog dude is an actual heretic or doesn't have a clue about divine simplicity. It basically means that God is not like creatures made up of parts or having distinct properties but in His divine nature He's a unified being. In other words it means He is only ONE true God, eternal and immeasurable, almighty, unchangeable, incomprehensible and ineffable, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, three persons but ONE absolutely simple essence, substance or nature, not many parts.

@MrEmeralddog

4 ай бұрын

@@MichaelAntonio-nl3nl then you conflict with Sspsce?

Augustine was one of the worst things to happen to the body of Christ. He lied about Pelagius and admitted it but said it was needful to lie in order to win his argument. He ushered in pagan philosophies that have now permeated the entire church. He is the great grandfather of Calvinism which is from the pit of hell. John Calvin was instrumental in having a man burned at the stake. I was in Calvinist hell for 23 years. I know of what I speak.

@Jeemapologetics

4 ай бұрын

Pelagianism is worse.

@steveOCalley

4 ай бұрын

@@Jeemapologeticsif Pelagianism is “that humans by divine grace have free will to achieve human perfection” isn’t that the modern Christian assumption that when one “accepts Jesus” and other rituals, one becomes instantly, totally and eternally forgiven of sin and saved? That’s more common in Evangelicals today.

@imaginaryuniverse632

4 ай бұрын

That's a long list to forgive but it's less than 7 times 70. Besides great grandfather is about as related as a third cousin once removed. 🙏

@ShowCat1

4 ай бұрын

@@Jeemapologetics I agree, but I was not endorsing Pelagius in my post. I am taking aim at the pedestal upon which western Christianity has placed Augustine.

@ShowCat1

4 ай бұрын

No offense, but seeing the long-lasting damage that Agustine has done you make a weak point. He preaches "another gospel." @@imaginaryuniverse632

Augustine was also the one that introduced the evil of calvanism, which in turn brought the other un-biblical teaching of armenianism

@333Paradigm333

4 ай бұрын

That is true, but it is more accurate to say that he intoduced devine determinism from his Neo Platonism, Manakean Gnosticism, and Stoic background, which in turn inspired Calvin and Luther etc.

@IronSharpensIron127

4 ай бұрын

@@333Paradigm333 you are right but I'm trying to get the ones that don't understand at all where Calvinism and armenianism came from.

@steveOCalley

4 ай бұрын

The teaching of Arminianism opposes the Clockwork God of Calvin by saying that Jesus died for the salvation of all, and that salvation for people depends on if they turn towards Jesus or away from him. THAT heresy. Calvin thought that before Creation, God determined who would be saved or go to hell before they even existed, and that Jesus only died for the souls of those who already are saved. That’s Calvinism.

@IronSharpensIron127

4 ай бұрын

@@steveOCalley yes both teach that Jesus only died for some. But he died for all like the Bible says. It is up to us to bow our knee. God is so beautiful

@troy5659

4 ай бұрын

@@steveOCalley But isn't that what the bible teaches in Eph 1:4 and John 1:12-13, and other places? What other meaning could it have if not at face value?

RC JESUITS UGH

I've always believed Augustine was the worst of all Church Fathers, infinitely worse than Judas. Any good he did was dwarfed by the totalitarian doctrines he created of "righteous persecution" and "infant damnation". These justified every evil imaginable. Read his City of God, book 1, Chapter 26. When people mention his prior arguments for liberty, here was where he rejects his prior arguments for liberty and freedom of religion and thought.

@MichaelAntonio-nl3nl

4 ай бұрын

freedom of religion and thought is a modern heresy, both the OT and Jesus in the NT never taught anybody had the right to believe in what they wanted

@zenuno6936

4 ай бұрын

The talk on liberty takes some nuance. The ultimate good is God, if someone is infringing on people's ability to reach God they are infringing on the most important purpose of our liberty which is to choose God. Say, by spreading immorality through the media, porn, etc, which leads people to sin, which clouds the judgement and prevents them to reach God. Would Jesus say that's allowed? Jesus said 'And whosoever shall scandalize one of these little ones that believe in me; it were better for him that a millstone were hanged around his neck, and he were cast into the sea.' So clearly societies must prevent these false 'liberties' that do spiritual harm to others. Nowadays they want satan statues on government buildings because there's 'liberty'. That's not real liberty, that's just liberty as an idol.

Augustine was misled on many issues because he used the Latin Vulgate not the original Greek, or Hebrew. Much as present day anglocentric Christians are misled by the KJV.

@EarlyChristianBeliefs

4 ай бұрын

Although Augustine used Latin texts, the Vulgate as just being developed during his life and he didn't have much of it.

@steinerhayes

4 ай бұрын

What do you propose is a better translation than the KJV and why?

@bobinindiana

4 ай бұрын

The KJV is a very good translation! Period!

@TheElizabethashby

4 ай бұрын

AMEN AMEN AMEN@@bobinindiana

@steveOCalley

4 ай бұрын

@@bobinindianawhat makes one Bible better than another?

What about the first of two volumes that they ignore, discussing Genesis from a more allegorical perspective. Augustine measured his thoughts to avoid“ an “altogether absurd and literal-minded, fleshly train of thought.”” This is what these guys are wrangling about with ‘God’s wristwatch’. Did each day comprise 86,400,000 milliseconds in an unaccelerated reference frame? How silly!

@zenuno6936

4 ай бұрын

The Church Fathers all believe in the literal sense, they then distill layers of symbolical/doctrinal/typological meanings, but these do not reject that the events literally transpired. They are simply squeezing the juice of what God wanted to teach us through those events.

Yep that's what the church fathers do!!🤣🤣🤣🤣 Anything except what the Bible actually says 😕🧐 and the so-called reformers took that idea to the Olympics of religious system creation 🤣🤣🤣

the earth is way older than six thousand years period

Augustine is no saint. No Catholic or Protestant is a saint. God describes the saints in. Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. Catholics and Protestants reject and break the second and 4th commandments. They reject passover and God's annual holy days for their pagan days. And they eat unclean meats. And they twist scriptures to justify their disobedience.

@Jeemapologetics

4 ай бұрын

I master this issue in my videos on the Law and the New Testament. God bless.

@steveOCalley

4 ай бұрын

So the 144,000 “These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they remained virgins.”

@zenuno6936

4 ай бұрын

Who determines who is a Saint is the Church not you. So Augustine is a Saint.