Southern Pacific #18 suffers shattered piston on the Durango and Silverton
Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары
Piston failure occurs around 35:16.
A rare visitor from California pulls a special excursion on the Durango and Silverton railroad in Durango, Colorado. The oil fired, 1911, steam locomotive, is only one of three preserved narrow gauge steam locomotives used by the Southern Pacific railroad, and the only one that is operational.
The steam locomotive was brought to Durango to help train other engineers in oil firing. The Durango and Silverton railroad was shaken last year following a very large fire, which caused extensive damage around the area. Although the coal fired steam locomotives were not the cause of the fire, the railroad wanted to consider converting the locomotives to oil which do not produce sparks.
This excursion was the second run for the freshly rebuilt steam locomotive pulling a revenue train on the Durango and Silverton. Unfortunately it would only make it around 14 miles into it's trip before the locomotive suffered a catastrophic piston failure which shattered the piston. Mechanics working on the locomotive claimed the damage was from a broken lubricator, however official cause has not been determined.
Several hours after the breakdown, a 1957, General Electric, diesel locomotive coupled onto the train and brought the #18 into a siding where it would sit overnight until repairs were made. The rest of the train was pulled into Durango where the passengers disembarked for the day. Filmed April 9th, 2019.
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I promise you for the rail enthusiasts, the breakdown was way more exciting than the rest of the trip.
"I shattered this locomotive piston to show you the incredible power of Flex Tape!"
@Carstuff111
5 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha!
@texangem
5 жыл бұрын
lol
@anthony10370
5 жыл бұрын
nailed it
@VMCAviationVideos
5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they tried duck tape for the repair😃
@mratsfrailfan1894
4 жыл бұрын
VMC Aviation Videos expensive repairs like this that would 105% be a no
If anyone is wondering, it occurs around the 35:18 mark, when you hear the chuffing cut out abruptly and see unusual smoke patterns from the stack. Quite sad the #18 suffered the way she did, she sounds like she’s in pain, but she’s a tough old loco so I’m sure that it won’t be long before she’s back on the rails. Nice video and greetings from Canada!
@LittleDragonProductions
5 жыл бұрын
It's the original piston from the last re-build and the constant use on the Durango line put more stresses on it than Georgetown Loop did. So far it doesn't appear like there is any other damage, they just need to cast a new piston and end plate. I'm just hoping they do both pistons seeing as they're both the same age.
@WilliamLeach54
5 жыл бұрын
@@LittleDragonProductions I thought 18 was brought in from California for training purpose to help D & S learn oil burning procedures? No Georgetown loop time on it or previous D & S time.
@LittleDragonProductions
5 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure 18 was at Georgetown loop. But nevertheless, you're right it was brought to D&S in order to test oil burning.
This is exactly why I don't trust these new fangled gadgets. I'll keep my horse thank you.
@Gardner0871public
5 жыл бұрын
Robert Wiersema 🤣
@3UZFE
5 жыл бұрын
hilarious
@trespire
5 жыл бұрын
Them iron horse aint no good for ya ?
@bryankeller3492
5 жыл бұрын
I don't trust the STEAM ENGINE or the LABOR that goes into making them work these days!.
@djlau1
5 жыл бұрын
@ 38:02 whe he stickied the camera in the shattered silinder the sound in it was pretty amazing
Wow - never heard of a failure like that! Gives you an idea of the pressure and pure torque that’s going on inside a steam locomotive.
@alanmacification
5 жыл бұрын
My grandfather would be laughing at them ; " What's the matter with ya, laddie? Couldn't bring 'er home on one side? " He was the quintessential Scottish steam engineer.
@F-Man
5 жыл бұрын
Alan Macphail Hahahaha that’s brilliant! But hey - you Scots invented the thing; surely your granddad would have been able to whip up a fix right then and there!
@HobbyOrganist
5 жыл бұрын
It wasn't pressure that broke it it only took a small crack in the cast iron piston or a ring piece breaking off and getting jammed between the steam port and the rest of the piston to break the piston into pieces and then ram the broken pieces against the inside of the cover breaking the hole out. I had a piston ring in my car break a small piece off and then that got caught between the top of the piston and the cylinder head, it ball peened the top of the piston pretty bad before I could shut it off, same idea here with the loco
I took that train back in 1998...one of the most memorable experiences of my life. I highly recommend the Durange-Silverton steam train ride to anybody.
@jovetj
5 жыл бұрын
She's a beauty!
@airbus214airplane
5 жыл бұрын
I did in 2002. Forest fires at that time made it interesting. Had to bus it on parts of the trip. Such a great experience though!
Passing Hobo - "Hey buddy, what's wrong?" Engineer - "Piston broke" Hobo - "Aah knows how it is sometimes, join the club!" (sorry)
@zazaranger5
5 жыл бұрын
Ha! Nice One
@GrrMeister
5 жыл бұрын
*You beat me to it first !*
@nuthineatholl6434
5 жыл бұрын
It's a blessing no one told the one about the Pistol Club -- you know, the one where they drink all night, and then [redacted] 'til morning... ( ಠ ͜ʖಠ) There was a man from Boston Who bought himself an Austin. There was room for his ass And a gallon of gas And -- www.johnbob.net/bumb.html
@tailsdollblack9340
5 жыл бұрын
lol
@spentacle
5 жыл бұрын
@Commentor1 pissed = drunk
We've rode this train to Silverton twice. The first time is when the Gold King mine released 3 million gallons of toxic waste into the Animas River in 2015. The river was ok on the trip to Silverton, but on the return trip back to Durango, the river was all yellow. No one at the time knew what happened. The second time we rode it was in 2016. That river was crystal clear the first time we rode it, now all of the stone in the river bed are yellow. Half way through this trip, the engine broke down on on us too. They had to back it up to where a pickup truck with a welder could weld the part the crew found on the track behind us. We waited several hours for the fix and the other 2 trains to Silverton was stuck behind us... We loved the train but I guess we're bad luck!
What a remarkable excursion, cut short by a failure. Great shooting! I enjoyed the scenery, thank you
I was born in the transition period from steam to deisel locamotives, but for some reason I have a great fondness for steam, and I can see how this lead to the internal combustion engine technology, which I am also fond of in motocycle guise. Thanks for this, the engineer certainly likes his whistle doesn't he.
@msirt
5 жыл бұрын
Lot of whistling due to the proliferation of grade crossings North of the depot. These are largely unprotected by gates, so each require the standard whistling tattoo: long-long-short-long.
@KStewart-th4sk
5 жыл бұрын
Well I'm sure he is using it for crossings. You think he is blowing it just for fun?!!!
@bigred8438
5 жыл бұрын
@@KStewart-th4sk I guess people must be deaf.
My grandfather (1886-1973) was a blacksmith for the railroad from his 20's until his 40's. He would have loved this.
@eaxnitro
5 жыл бұрын
His shoddy workmanship was probably the cause of this exact problem
@BruceBergman
5 жыл бұрын
It's an old engine he didn't" cause " any failures on that piston it's just old age and it metallic metal fatigue
@eaxnitro
5 жыл бұрын
@@BruceBergman shoddy shoddy shoddy
@kimifan06
4 жыл бұрын
@@eaxnitro it's a joke people, that was hilarious
@phatboy3718
Жыл бұрын
You have your own grandfather?
One of the sweetest whistle tones ever. ❤❤❤ ...and a hogger who is an artist with the cord. Hope the Old Gal is back hitting her stride again soon!
Being a member of the SPH&TS, I am glad to see an SP loco at work. A rare sight. Durango sure has changed since I rode the D&SNG back in 1987.
@quintinsanders6009
5 жыл бұрын
Last time I rode that train, it still had the Denver Rio Grande logos on it. That was back in 1978.
Someone should wire a telegram to Baldwin Locomotive Works in Philadelphia.
@FrankWms
5 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@Carstuff111
5 жыл бұрын
"Wire the main office, and tell them I said *Thwack* ooooow!" "Wire main office, tell them you said 'Ow!'.... Got it!" *stands there with shovel and confused look on face*
@steveblackbird5174
5 жыл бұрын
Carrier pigeon perhaps?? piss funny comment hahaha!
@WarbirdPhoenix
4 жыл бұрын
I'm on it. Didididididididididididdotdididotdotdididotdotdidiotdididididotdotdotdidididdid. Sent.
@beachbum1523
3 жыл бұрын
"Send a wire to the main office, and tell them that I said....OWWWW!"
oh wow, wasnt expecting to see the damage, thought it was like inside the piston. then you came around the front and that MAASIVE hole was sitting there!
@AMadrigal72
5 жыл бұрын
Same here
Oh wow, kinda heart-breaking... but gosh, what amazing footage capturing the moment it occurred (just after 35:17) and being able to view the carnage! (37:55) Great post!
@travelingtom923
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@bobbbird00
5 жыл бұрын
Traveling Tom .
@robertheinkel6225
5 жыл бұрын
Didn't know that could happen.
@VoxNerdula
5 жыл бұрын
well as they say it's better than having a shattered penis inside mrs. durango
@bigh7777
5 жыл бұрын
Easy fix!
Once again, SP #18's stint on the D&S is probably the hardest this loco has worked in a long time.
Thanks for sharing. We travelled on 480 last year. One of the most memorable and best steam railway journeys available in the world. Never heard of a catastrophic failure like this before!. But fixable.
Holy cow that went well! Thing just fell apart! Thanks for the video buddy. Great viewing!
That is one of the rarest time a steam locomotive had broke down in this year
Travelling Tom, excellent coverage of an 'eventful' journey. Ty.
This was a fantastic enjoyable video. Thank you for uploading it.
Beautiful sound as she was climbing 👍
@b3j8
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, "was" being the key word.
I like how everyone is equally awe inspired by the modern locomotive that came to the rescue and was a nice side by side comparison. Would be great to take that one back in time to show the engineers who created the steam locomotive.
"The cause of the failure, although difficult to determine with absolute certainty, appears to have been caused by either ring or piston failure in which a piece broke loose and lodged in one of the port openings in the cylinder bore. The piston had previously been repaired by the SP. " Cast iron is strong but brittle, the "previously repaired" part is what concerned me, previously repaired and this was what failed.
@SuperAWaC
5 жыл бұрын
it depends on the nature of the repair... if it was brazed, as long as the braze was properly done, it should be just as strong as the original. though i'm not sure if brazing a steam piston is appropriate. i don't think a ring failing would lead to a complete failure of the piston itself...
@jordanrenaud-pq7rx
5 жыл бұрын
@@SuperAWaC or a slug of water somehow. Bye bye piston.
@davidelliott5843
5 жыл бұрын
@The Midwest & Central Railroad club channel But in this case they were working har up an incline so water would not have chance to collect in the cylinders. Do they use brittle cast iron rather than steel forgings so the piston can fail rather than something more serious?
@ajwilson605
5 жыл бұрын
@@jordanrenaud-pq7rx "Wet" steam could do it too.....
Hey thanks Traveling Tom, that was a great video. Wish I could have been there to help out.
I took that trip in August of 2000, they had to fix the "bumper plate"(I think that's what they called it) between the engine and the tender while we sat on a mountain ledge a few hundred feet(maybe more) up from the river, we sat there for about 1 hour while a tender brought the piece up from the roundhouse. The ledge was only about 6' wide on each side of the train with near vertical rock faces up and down....I can only imagine how perilous it must have been to build that railroad back in the day. I highly recommend the trip.
@msirt
5 жыл бұрын
That spot you describe is the "famous" part of the trip. There the Animas river plunges through a narrow canyon and the rails are on a narrow shelf about 900 feet above. Drama is added to the ride because of the "S" curve. If I'm not mistaken, the spot was filmed in the 1956 film, "Around the World in 80 Days".
52:30 guy on the train gives the middle finger to the guy in the Jeep.
@texasfossilguy
5 жыл бұрын
Good catch what a doucher for doing that
@NSS247
4 жыл бұрын
He's a Foamer
@TonyLasagna
3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit you’re right 😭😭😂
@AGSGuy
3 жыл бұрын
Probably friends with the guy in the jeep
Thank you very much for this video of my old hometown that I grew up in. Thank you so much.
I suppose the factory warranty had expired?
@sharkyfish3492
5 жыл бұрын
Ya.. we can get the warranty SPAM callers to extend the service agreement on that. Now all we need to do is give them our CC numbers. Wonder what the current mileage is on that part ? :)
@1racemate
5 жыл бұрын
you bet
@WINCHANDLE
5 жыл бұрын
No I think they can still send it back to Amazon. They have a pretty good return policy. Blew right through the endplate and busted piston rings visible. Yow! what power.
@VMCAviationVideos
5 жыл бұрын
Why would you think that😁
@cop-fq2eq
5 жыл бұрын
Al Grayson i think so
I love that railroad. Got to ride last run of the season with the workers one year. My fist love is the cog being from NH. I always hope to be back in Durango.
you can almost hear the ol' locomotive wince in pain after the accident..
Excellent Sir. Thanks for your efforts, you have captured this beautiful journey of yours. 👌🙏
Great video, I just love that sound.... Thanks for sharing.... Love it.
I was young when the last of the steam locomotives finally retired. The whistle carried for miles at night and was the epitome of nostalgia 70 years ago. What will kids swoon over fifty years from now? The hum of a Siemens electric motor? Maybe their version of 'music' which sounds very much like a auto with a bad CV Joint? Kudos for this video. Nostalgia is about memories of particular events not the science behind the audio.
Thanks, again, Tom.
What a ride. That was great! Mr. B.
Yes in as much as we'd like to believe Some of this old Iron has gone thro SOoo many cycles it just doesn't live forever WHAT DOES?? The desire & ambitious efforts of those that keep them "Chuffing" Hats off to all of them
@jbench2756
5 жыл бұрын
that metal looked so brittle i was thinking to myself "did they not put in new pistons on the rebuild?" then i read you comment and instantly knew that they probably used the pistons so as to keep the cost down on a rebuild
@randomtidbits7695
5 жыл бұрын
@@jbench2756 The cost of one or two off castings that large is pretty steep. And yep, cast iron is brittle in comparison to other alloys but modern cast isn't much different in that regard than that of a hundred years ago. But cast iron is actually a great material for that type of service - the reason many gas engines still use cast iron piston rings. I'm inclined to believe it was a lubrication failure as was assumed at the time of the incident, not just a brittle failure. A dry cylinder leads to seizing, making it pretty easy for the inertia of the train to push the rod through the piston with the ensuing carnage we witness. In gas engines, lube failure does much the same thing 'cept the rings are what seals the bottom end of the cylinders so it's they that get torn apart. Instead of chunky piston, you get chunky piston rings. Chances are, it would of happened the same way with a modern replacement piston when the lube ran out.
I JUST LOVE THE TRAVEL THROUGH "TIME". And the AMERICAN COUNTRYSIDE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH !!!
God I love that whistle. It's like an angry scream.
@LNERfan
5 жыл бұрын
Somehow this little narrow gauge engine's got more punch in her whistle than the bigger ones.
@GrassPossum
5 жыл бұрын
Yes man. They hurt him wit' their stupid !
#11 - railroad version of AAA.
Thanks for sharing.
For No18. the railroad has decided to replace the pistons, rings and piston rods on both sides to ensure this doesn’t happen again. The right side piston rod had a bend in it. They suspect a piece of the piston or piston ring broke off and got wedged in one of the steam ports which caused the damage to occur. Check out their website for the full story and photos of the items they have had cast and are machining to get No.18 back working. Impressive repair. Hydro lock as some are suggesting would more likely have damaged both pistons, the left one escaped any damage, just sayin. Water carry over into a superheater, if fitted, will cause it to flash into steam and can result in the locomotive getting out of control. This happened to a mainline loco back in the steam days, they primed it by mistake and the water flashed into steam, the driver couldn’t get the throttle closed, couldn’t operate the reverser into mid gear and the brakes had no effect. They estimated the wheels were doing 120 mph but the loco wasn’t moving. It eventually was brought under control but by that time the wheels had burnt through the railhead and into the web.
Now me and the mad scientist are gonna have to replace the piston rings that you fried.......
@digitalradiohacker
5 жыл бұрын
Granny shifting, not double clutching like he should... He's lucky that 100 shot of nitrous didn't blow the welds on the intake.
@woohunter1
5 жыл бұрын
digitalradiohacker / you almost had me? ..........You never had your car.
@digitalradiohacker
5 жыл бұрын
@@woohunter1 Bullshit asshole, no-one likes the tuna here.
@woohunter1
5 жыл бұрын
digitalradiohacker / it's not how you stand by your car, it's how you race it.
@digitalradiohacker
5 жыл бұрын
@@woohunter1 Hector is gonna be running three Honda Civics with Spoon engines. And, on top of that, he just came into Harry’s and ordered three T66 turbos with NOS and a Motec system exhaust.
And beautiful scenery through there. Nice little towns.
When they let go, they let go in a big way.
For those of you who don't have the time the action happens just after 35:00
Very nice production, and interesting to watch, and get a feel of the surrounding areas of life in Durango.well done'..
34:43 is where it begins to break apart, you can hear the chuff pattern suddenly change where steam is releasing through the cylinder.
Very cool catch, hopefully she’ll be fixed up ready to go soon
Wow, Durango has spread out. Last time I rode that train, once past the first river/stream you were out of town and wide open grass lands. At 14 mins where it is following the highway, that was in the middle of nowhere. Kept wanting to yell that the better scenery was out the right side, not left. :-) Believe the train was filmed for the Butch Cassidy movie the following year after I last rode this. Has been a while.
WoW! Not too bad. Looks like an easy fix. Damage is isolated to the outside. It`s not like you have to take the whole top of the engine off, to get to a piston. That could take months.
@theondebray
5 жыл бұрын
Still quite a big job, plus reboring the cylinder & refitting.
Good documentation.... Thanks!
I can remember when this Steam Locomotive was on display in Dehy Park in Independence California in the Owens Valley. I followed its Restoration on the Internet. I guess we see that piston failures can occur. This will be repaired and the other piston will be inspected and repaired before it has a sudden failure.
Only a minor setback for the 18 the D&SNG can repair her in a heartbeat
@emilkarpo
5 жыл бұрын
Not a chance unless someone with deep pockets comes along. Is there foundry in the US capable of casting and forging a new piston, and rings, and probably a new cylinder? Probably not. Possibly in China or Germany, the Germans forged most of the major components for the Tornado, but both at a high price and probably years of work. Nope this engine is done.
@steffenrosmus9177
5 жыл бұрын
To raise the funds will take some time and you wiil have to look for a casting and forging company maybe in Germany or Poland which are capable to fullfill this job
@LRF152
5 жыл бұрын
@@emilkarpo Considering SP #8 and SP #9 are of the same type as this locomotive, the D&SNG aren't very hard pressed to find parts.
@rustysteed8414
5 жыл бұрын
@@emilkarpo There is a foundry in North Dakota that cast and built an entire 150 hp Case tractor from original drawings. A repair like this would not even raise an eyebrow. Look for the story on youtube.
@Big_Diehl
5 жыл бұрын
@@emilkarpo What? A broken piston to the Durango and Silverton is not really too much of a big deal, they have the technical know how to perform repairs like this. Between Durango and the Cumbres, one of their locomotives seem to get a broken piston every two or three years.
Run by TrainZone to pick up a new piston and a four pack of Monster Edit: and a cordless impact wrench
Those narrow-gauge steam locomotives are awesome.
We enjoyed this trip several years ago! No explosions!
back in the day before radio or cell phones this would to have been a real big deal!! lot's of power in steam!! cool video!! hats off to the pros doing the rescue!!
The Little Princess got a big workout and 'blew a gasket' lol. She will be back up in no time folks.
Damn! That hurt! No oil in there for a while by the look of it. Well saved though. Hope she's soon up and running. Best of luck from the UK!
damn, and you could HEAR it all the way from the cars too!
35:40 right here is where the outlaw bandits rob everyone on the train.. gosh what a great scenery ... hope the train get well..
Look on the extreme bright side... Riding behind diesel on the D&S is an extremely rare event!
@ronaldoblander6068
5 жыл бұрын
Where did they find a narrow gauge diesel??
A big shout out to who ever gave us that close-up, I'm a designer builder and one can gain a great deal of insight from an up close view like that, I'm shocked to see that everything was all cast in that particular area and not forged or machined, I wonder do they X-Ray the high stress parts / critical parts, I guess not since it's not an aircraft, but it is a high pressure vessel which is under extreme pressure and could very easily kill innocent by standers depending on when it fails,,,
Remarkable video even capturing the moment the piston broke! ! In the UK in BR days it was not unknown that if something failed for the crew to disconnect the motion on that side and proceed at slow pace until a station or siding could be reached. Although I have to say that I am not aware that it was the case where something so catastrophic as this occurred. A few years ago a preserved BR Standard loco blew the entire end of a cylinder away and that had to be towed away.
@SBCBears
5 жыл бұрын
Plus, this is a mountain railway so tough to run on one cylinder. Well, unless you have a down grade run to the platform or engine house.
@taffy402
5 жыл бұрын
Yes at the Watercress line, the cylinder head was blown off.
@renegadeoflife87
2 жыл бұрын
A failure like this, I'm surprised they didn't uncouple the piston rod at the crosshead and pull it out completely. Let the engine coast back down the hill to the station on the good cylinder, and tow it from there.
Thank you very much for that part of the train going by McDonalds that part brings so much good memories when I grew up in Durango CO.
That 57 GE is a monster front and back engines
@billmoran3812
5 жыл бұрын
Jeff Garrett hardly a monster. It’s a little 44 tonner. Good thing it was mostly downhill back to the station, or it probably wouldn’t have been able to pull all those cars with people.
@jeffgarrett2114
5 жыл бұрын
@@billmoran3812 I've seen one just like that GE it had two Cummins Cummins 6cyl engines hooked crank to crank not sure what the GE is running
@billmoran3812
5 жыл бұрын
Jeff Garrett that engine has two small Cummins engines. Most likely they replaced the original engines which were probably Caterpillars. All of the center cab GE switchers had two engines with their own DC generator each driving one traction motor.
@jeffgarrett2114
5 жыл бұрын
@@billmoran3812 sweet. I always liked the old switchers they do all the dirty work in the yard and get no love.
Probably the most well documented mechanical failures on the D&SNG.
Awesome video
The aggressive whistle is the best part.
@ShapdCrusadr
3 жыл бұрын
The aggressive whistle when coming to railroad crossings is REQ by law.
@hrk9209
3 жыл бұрын
@@ShapdCrusadr i am talking about how aggressively the engineer is pulling the whistle.
Wow amazing experience glad you had camera in hand! Did they charge you guys extra for the foot tour? @35:16 that's such a sad sound but at least it's fixable
The Engineer was heard to exclaim: "Oh, dagnabbit!".
@ianballinger7644
4 жыл бұрын
I'd bet it was a tad more explicit than that !
wow the force of that piston going .. and the dent on the back of the bumber.. wowsa
I was expecting butch Cassidy and the sundance kid to come riding in and rob the train.
I'm not a train expert, but, it sounded like #18 was working quite hard right before the piston broke.
@blondeguy08
5 жыл бұрын
cellogirl11RW couple different reasons for why it could of happened but it’s very possible based on the damage observed it’s very possible that they ran out/ran low of steam and injected just a little spritz of hot water into the cylinder. This kind of damage is generally associated with trying to compress an incompressible fluid.
@garrisonkildow4328
5 жыл бұрын
I've rode this train several times. It works hard and chuffs pretty good going up hill to make it over the pass. Awesome sound!
@cellogirl11rw55
5 жыл бұрын
@@blondeguy08 Oh, okay. Thanks for the info.
Wow that took a lot of pressure to blow a hole in that cylinder head and destroy the piston
Nice camera work! Great story. So rare on youtube.
Damn, that sucks for that old engine
Rode this train up to Silverton and back in 1993 on my honeymoon trip through the southwest, heck of a ride until a hot ash from the Locomotive got me in the eye and I looked like Rocky.
@travelingtom923
5 жыл бұрын
That is the problem with coal burners. Those cinders can chip camera lens as well if you are going fast enough.
Son of a....that's gonna leave a mark!
I bet if you live in Durango the sound of that whistle gets darn old after awhile
It looks like gray iron, with good structure to it. If no pattern exists if theres a drawing, it could be replaced. If not the parts could be fitted together to get dimensions for a drawing. Depending on the original grade of iron used (maybe class 25 or 30) I would probably recommend changing to ductile iron, possibly ASTM A536, class 80-60-03. But sometimes in a system its best to leave a link in this case the cylinder) that does fail instead of breaking a part thats harder to replace. By the way that part looks like a cylinder head and a piston failure. If there's any metallurgical help I can give, let me know. I have over 40 years in foundry experience and am a degreed metallurgical engineer. I belong to the Cincinnati Railroad Club.
@billdemeter4593
4 жыл бұрын
I say... go with carbon fiber!😊
Flex Seal!! It's train repair in a can!!!
What a fabulous piece of video!!! You can hear the moment she lets go, OUCH!! Rarely captured event, lucky the cylinder casting stayed intact, and only blew the centre out of cover. I'd be checkin' that lubricator line&pump.That cylinder looked awful dry n scuffed inside.She'll back,and what a pretty little locomotive she is!! good on the fitters,I say!!
As with all engines no matter how much they are cared for they can throw a tantrum once in a while. Almost exactly the same failure happened to a standard class engine on the Mid Hants Railway in the UK a few years ago. I am sure good repairs will be made and the engine will be in service very soon.
WOW! Broke apart like a Styrofoam cooler.
Great vid. Sad to see her damaged, but it's not that bad and she'll be back on her feet in no time, doing what she was built to do.
The piston is broken into several small parts. The use of a large pry bar was to raise the piston to remove small pieces under the piston. Look at the nut on the end piston, you will see the nut is welded. To remove the nut you need a cutting torch to remove the welds. A new cylinder cover or welded to repair parts broken off. Welding cast iron needs special welding rods and slow cooldown. After you have a piston machined, then new gasket or o-rings and repack the piston rod. If cylinder liner is damaged then cut out the old steel liner and with heat and press insert new liner.
Some serious devastation to that cylinder, but nothing that can be repaired. The piston is a relatively small part which can be made by every local foundry if a model is suplied, the cover can be either cast or machined. Looking how the cylinder cover got damaged, the piston rod must have rammed a chunk of debrie trough that cover, there is an indentation on the inside for the piston rod nut to go in which is a weak spot in the cover, designed on purpose or not, this weak spot prevented the piston rod or conrod being bent, which could have made things much worse. Anyway, this was a rare oportunity to have diesel haulage on the line.
@Nighthawke70
5 жыл бұрын
About as bad as losing a bolt down the intake manifold, then leaving it there are forgotten, or assuming it won't go any further. And the bolt manages to get past the intake valve and beats the piston and cylinder head to death, scoring the cylinder walls too.
5 жыл бұрын
The only real problem is getting the correct composition of iron to cast a new piston from. You can't just melt down some manhole covers.
@msirt
5 жыл бұрын
That hole could have been caused by the piston rod nut itself. Such a perfectly centered round hole.
It's too bad the engine broke down, it looked like a great ride. It appeared that they handled the situation very well. It makes you think how that situation could have been much different during the 1800's with communication and help not being so easily available for a train out in the wilderness traveling across the country. I have heard that if they were lucky enough to find a phone line that would at times be running along the tracks, that they had a couple of poles they could put over the phone line and tap into it for communication. It was interesting that this video captures the engine breaking down as it happened.
@rtruth7002
Жыл бұрын
People were allot tougher and not as obese as people are nowadays they would've walked and been fine.
Best thing that could of happened, and I don't mean in a bad way, you probably would not of got all those great close details of the loco and the removal of the broken piston made very interesting viewing. Never seen anything like that before. I hope you got to ride the full line another time and the loco got fixed.
FANtastic!
Well at least it's a reasonably fixable failure. if it did not scar the cylinder too much, still you have to admire how "smart" the conductors outfit is ..lolz
Would have been a very Memorable trip. Looking at the evidence something happened to the connecting rod length (it got longer) causing the piston to super extend under the large load it had at the time and smash out the end plate with the con rod as it were and also smash up the piston from hitting the end plate also. One scenario anyway. Would have went off with a Bang. Sad, but they'll fix it up hopefully better than before.
WOW... Damn... whoops. OMG it blew all apart inside . Must have been incredible stress
5 жыл бұрын
More likely crap cast iron the (probably) newish replacement piston was made from. Remember...she's just been overhauled.
excellent!! would loved to have seen the repair. anyone know if the piston rod nut is leaded on or welded to the shaft?
@secondtimeround
3 жыл бұрын
Usually a tapered pin which is them "mushroomed". Or a nut and bolt which in turn is also bludgeoned to stop it ever walking off.
Well, she's out of warranty, that's for sure!
@jeffgarrett2114
5 жыл бұрын
Gets phone call while waiting. Hello I would like to talk to you about extending the warranty on your locomotive today it includes piston breakage from faulty lubricators and fires from coal sparks and runaways with no airbrakes. Would you be interested?
If only someone had the money to reconstruct the carson city narrow gauge line.
@Trainlover1995
5 жыл бұрын
The State of Nevada is more focused on the V&T.
@CoalChrome
5 жыл бұрын
@@Trainlover1995 at least they're working on a railroad.
@msirt
5 жыл бұрын
Or the East Broad Top
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