SNS 351: K&T Horizontal Milling, Single Point Threading Pipe
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We'll have a little chip making fun on the K&T horizontal milling machine with a 1" staggered tooth milling cutter. I have not done any type of heavy load tests ever since I corrected the feed motor wiring. This was a test I had been wanting to perform to see how the machine will handle some heavier milling ops.
We also have a threading job as well. Some light fixture hangers that were to be cut 12" long and threaded on the ends.
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Adam, Thank you for this video. I began my industrial maintenance career repairing the identical Kearney Trecker mill as yours (1982). I don't know how old the machine was, but it wasn't new. It was an all day, every day use machine. We ran a Series 2 Bridgeport for our manual vertical work and the KT only saw horizontal work. I really enjoyed working on the KT. Most functions on this mill are hydraulically controlled with manual porting. Each dial position ports oil via a small hydraulic tube and/ or internal casting porting. The engineering and manufacturing of these components is beautiful work. Separating casting sections rewires small O rings for sealing. Counting the dial settings lets you see how many porting paths are required to do the manual gear shifting. This design was the hallmark of KT. No other manufacturer that I serviced exploited this design like KT. It gave a lovely beauty in the internals of the machine. Removing the front knee casting cover, keeping the knee internal casting mechanical components aligned while managing the weight was a chore for a skinny technician and required use of a fork lift to support the weight. I learned so much about industrial machines servicing our KT. We upgraded our KT after our plant flooded in 1993. I haven't touched a KT since. I never operated our machine, but I have many hours inside it. It was unique to our shop. It was unique to my long career. I enjoy seeing your machine still making chips. When you resurrected your machine I wished that I could be on hand advising you. It would have been fun for me to be back inside the KT. Our shop was set up so that virtually every machine was 100% fully loaded for every shift. Our machinery saw a lot of production hours.
@millomweb
3 жыл бұрын
The feed control is a good design - far more convenient than mine. I guess mine was designed with 'programming' in mind - the process of settting the job up would include setting the feeds and speeds and never adjusting them as the job progressed. The gear levers are on the main body of the mill - so it's walk round the table to make adjustments while the spindle's stopped !
This would be a great place for the Slomoguys to come film.
@Trident_Euclid
3 жыл бұрын
I sometimes use the super slow-motion on my Note 9 while turning or drilling.
@ronfox5519
3 жыл бұрын
I was expecting to hear the six million dollar man sound effect..
Cutting threads is very satisfying, kind of like looking at a campfire.
@dan-o9746
3 жыл бұрын
.22 magnum
Man that staggered cutter looked like it was making roll pins instead of chips. Had no idea that machine could work that hard in a single pass.
I have to tell you, I was watching some of your older videos and I can't believe how beautiful that G&E shaper is. As old as it is and runs damn near like a new machine. It sounds quiet. I'm jealous 😫. I love that thing. That massive shaper that fireball has is great. Its not as nice as that G&E though. I've been a machinist most of my life. I never had the opportunity to work with one. Well, I made parts for firearms in my fathers little gunshop. Nothing on the scale you do brother. Keep the videos coming brother please. PEACE ✌
Looks like Adam is in the lead for Chip Of The Week!
@transmitterguy478
3 жыл бұрын
That's because he is a chip off the old block.
Back when Manual machines were King . Just a level of pride in making a part with a manual machine vs. CNC Love the slo-mo shots.
Now that's some entertainment I can wrap my head around. What a beast of a machine! I've never seen one of those. The slomo shots were the icing on the cake. Nice effect!
5/8" DOC.... wow. Adam you do live by the motto "Go Big or Go Home"
What a cool slo-mo shot! I really like how the alternating teeth shoot chips left and right.
You could be a renowned professor teaching a new generation of machinists old school technique, patience and perspective. Wait, that's what you do now! Please keep up your very informative videos. Thanks.
They still have so many of these machines at Portsmouth Navel ship yard V.A. and New Port News Ship building V.A. cool seeing so many different kinds all lined up in a row. Including the Giant versions. When I was in the Navy 93 - 04😎👍
@MachineShopMasse
3 жыл бұрын
You work in one of the machine shops over there?
@kaydog2008
3 жыл бұрын
@@MachineShopMasse Na I admired them while in the navy and as a floating dry dock worker.
@ryanb1874
3 жыл бұрын
Are they for sale?
@kaydog2008
3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanb1874 Highly unlikely they make their own back up replacement parts in house for all their machines. The cases are probably the only thing original. The new machines don't compare to the old ones. www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1RLNS_enUS947US948&tbs=lf:1,lf_ui:2&tbm=lcl&sxsrf=ALeKk00ioCCrFRMjk3L_iHTM1noLmYPP5g:1626579724275&q=newport+news+shipbuilding+va+machine+shops&rflfq=1&num=10&ved=2ahUKEwie2qfV2evxAhVYGs0KHbtfDHsQtgN6BAgNEAQ#rlfi=hd:;si:;mv:[[37.26417726865166,-76.09521486409415],[36.821338297987005,-76.80932619221915],null,[37.04308068570599,-76.45227052815663],11]
You aren't just a machinist, you're a videographer! Really compelling shots. Was a little surprised that those pipes weren't threaded standard pipe thread, i.e. tapered, threads. Seems standard.
Nice to see a decent bit of horizontal milling.
Once again, I love those slow mo shots, and the audio compliments it perfectly. Great job on the editing there Adam.
When I worked for an electrical contractor, we cut and thread those light fixture hanging pipes all the time to get a specific look the customer wanted. Just used our Rigid pipe threader, similar to what plumbers use. I find it a little interesting that your customer couldn't have an electrical contractor do it, whatever...
@avlawns3037
3 жыл бұрын
Yea, sending 12 bucks each of light hangars to a machine shop is kinda extreme
@millomweb
3 жыл бұрын
Is probably a sign of doing things the old ways are disappearing. Nowadays, it's surprising there's any metal at all in those tubes :)
Loved the slow motion. Mesmerized watching the cut and the chips flying
Doesn't anyone send you stuff anymore? I loved when you talked and showed items what fans have sent you in the start of every SNS video :)
@garthbutton699
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah,me to!
in trade school, the only horizontal mill they had in the machine shop was not properly secured to the floor. the vice project we had to build involved using a 1.25" staggered carbide insert cutter to cut a groove similarly deep. that thing was throwing off blue chips like a machine gun and making a small earthquake at the same time.
@millomweb
3 жыл бұрын
In my schooldays, the 2 metalwork rooms mainly had lathes and foundry equipment - casting aluminium. There was a small shaper which rarely got used by the teacher, never saw any pupils use it. More recently, I've read a historic document on local education and it mentions a milling machine but I never saw one. Pillar drills were there and one of the rooms had a nice little power hacksaw.
Very cool how the cutter seems to be rotating faster than the mill
Watching you from Trinidad for many years now always very detail reminds me of my young machinist days ,good vids for those who wants to be one.love how you finish on journal sizes
I especially like the "measure twice - cut once " method on the pipe...... As always, a joy watching your vids
One of the most best slow mo cut that really give meaning.
Nice work Adam Good to see the K&T back up and running
Nice work and demonstration. Thanks for the look.
Watching you work is looking over the shoulder of a master. I've learned more from you than I have reading books.
@thetruthexperiment
3 жыл бұрын
You learn machining from book?
A K&T like yours is on my bucket list. Thanks for sharing.
your overall knowledge of the type of work you do is amazing....thank you for sharing
@millomweb
3 жыл бұрын
Machining I can cope with but identifying ferrous metals is pretty much a black art to me. Alu, Brass, Copper (accidentally alphabetical...d....?) I have some familiarity with. Cast Iron, of one form or another I'd recognise but steels - could be anything ;) Yesterday, my arc welding adventure started. I've done it before ~ 30 years ago on an odd job - quite well - for someone with a naturally shaky hand but I'm thinking that was more by accident than design - now, having seen the box of welding rods suggest what current to use with them, I'm fractionally more clued up than I was ! The welder - which I estimate to be about 70 years old got a service yesterday and with a voltmeter I discovered a little more about the two ranges of output it has. It is also due for some new welding leads !
You do really good work. You're good at helping friends and other people.
Adam - the slo-mo shots are awesome! I love the sound your key makes on the jaws.... Makes the end of my week to see you'v posted another video. Always look forward to them. Thank you!!!
First time I really saw how much the feedrate affects the temperature. As soon as you started to crank it up the cooling really had to work. Nice, thanks!
Visually very satisfying to watch, and very reminiscent of chocolate shavings, so I almost expected them to be poured out on a metal cake afterwards! Abomb79 levels of metal removal!
@mumblbeebee6546
3 жыл бұрын
Dn’t start the whole “it’s cake!” thing al over again 😂 (but yes, every time he does a shaper video I think ‘that would be cool with foodstuffs ;)
You always make me laugh whenever the video goes slo-mo. I know you do that because you love to see chips fly 😀
Oh my, what incredible shots!
That machine is a beast! Excellent operator as well. Great video.
Oh man, Classic Abom79, giving his machine a good workout. Love listing to the mill work hard. What it was designed for. Chip of the Week...
OUTSTANDING, those first chips on the Mill looked like spiral roll pins,thanks for the video, funny we hung some pendant lights in our kitchen some time ago,the in stock pipes were also to long,they wanted to order shorter ones,we shortened and threaded same all's good🤗😎🤗😎
Those horizontal cutters made great chips. Looking forward to the face milling!
I always enjoy your videos. When I was a young man I spent many hours with my machines but as my health started going downhill I had to give them up because the strength in my hands and diminished so much and I was afraid of wrecking something.
That vise held well, I'd a chickened out and put a stop at the end of the test slot. Combination of sharp/true cutter sounded nice. That feed is WOW! Ya people either need a new thing or they gotta fix the old thing a fundamental truth!
Never a dull moment. I like playing on the manuals at work have yet to experience, or learn, the threading function. Something ive been wanting to try.
@ryanb1874
3 жыл бұрын
With what machine, like creating a worm with all the gearteain involved in a horizontal mill?
those slo-mo shots were delightful to say the least. machinists ASMR at its finest.
Those chips look like roll pins coming off there when you upped the feed rate ! Thanks Adam. Great content as usual. Especially liked the close up of the thread cutting.
That was really cool!! I’ve never seen a milling head like that before! It works really well!
Looks like a good candidate for "Chip of the Month."
Thanks for sharing with us Adam, those machine’s sure make the job so much easier. Great job!🙏🏻🙏🏻👍👍👏🏻👏🏻👋👋
That slo-mo was gorgeous!!
what a great chips that can make damascus forging wow
That horizontal mill and the shaper are my favorite machines you own. She didn't even stutter when you increased your feed rate by 200%.
@hubbsllc
3 жыл бұрын
Shaper work is so relaxing! Great to fall asleep to at night.
Slo-mo was awesome! I'm not a machinist but I do like to watch the chips fly.
Really enjoyed those slow motion parts, it made the chips look even better, and I could understand how they were stacking up like that. I can't recall if you're submitting pictures for chip of the week at this time but those seem to qualify.
That looked like the fastest roll pin making machine I've ever seen! :)
A bunch of wonderful 6's and 9's!!! Kind of like ASMR for machinist watching the chips fly 👍
Great video. Very skilled craftsman.
Very nice Adam. Thank’s for the demonstration. It’s good to experience what it’s like to see a machine cut with an even chip load. Seems like a lot of machines cut on a fraction of the available teeth.
Thanks for the video. I enjoyed watching it.
Love these machines, K&T rocks 👍👌✊️… wishing you well from 🇬🇧
@millomweb
3 жыл бұрын
If the machine was better than mine I'd agree. It and the Cincinnatis are in a league above the Bridgeports but seeing these 'good' machines has blown me away as to how good my machine is. A VERY LUCKY purchase for £800 in the early 90s. With Dad wondering whether to get it or not and neither of us knowing much about millers, we've accidentally ended up with a real gem (G. Dufour type 61)
Excelente trabajo maestro y muy eficientes esas herramientas bendiciones.
packed in cosmoline would make Squatch253 proud!
Your making some awesome roll pins😉
Wow! Mass produced split pins!
Another interesting video. From the camera view those chips look just like roll pins. First cut they’re nice and bright, second deeper cut a light straw color.
That Mill is a beast! And those chips, beautiful. It’s wonderful to see you keeping the old machines alive, and your skills sharp.
quite smooth once it gets into the full cut
Quality content as usual Adam !
Be pretty cool to get with smarter every day to really see how different tools make different chips.
Looked like a pile of roll pins. I got to get the parts for my k&t mill to cut horazonal. Great video.
Paitently waiting for you to start a stand for that big old Reed vise! I miss those fabrication/machining videos, like the weld/rotating table build.
Sehr gut gemacht👍👍
Those mill chips would look cool in a resin table top.
@jimmartin7881
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, really good idea for a project.
Our little shop in Indiana in the 70s had both a horizontal and a vertical K and T . They were really good old workhorses. The horizontal mill had a 440 motor but I ran it on 220 without any problem…. Just avoided any high speed milling. Heavy cuts….slow speed… no problem. Incidentally, both machines had mechanical feeds. We had a couple of Bridgeports for all the lighter work. ….. with Travedial…..no DRO!
Great stuff. More Horizontal milling Please. Total newbie, just bought my first mill and its a horizontal. G
@millomweb
3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a YT channel ? Everyone else has gone with vertical mills s I'd love to see the same processes done on a H mill !
Awesome 👏 always fun to watch !!
Antique Truck Show September 5th in Harford PA at the Harford Fair grounds, great opportunity for some videos!
Great video 👍 Nice slowmo action .
Those big face mills are still my favorite I think, but those big horizontal cutters are awesome as well! Way cool chips.
Wow. The camera strobing makes it look like everything is moving in the wrong direction.. Thanks, I always enjoy!
@thetruthexperiment
3 жыл бұрын
If you blink just right it looks like it’s going the right way.
Dude, those chips are money!
Cool slow-mo at 9:46, that cutter is badass! So is the machine! Looks like ur making roll-pins!
@ShnerfNShnarf
3 жыл бұрын
I even put the playback speed on .25X 😂 what a glorious machine
That's chip of the month their..
Imported ceiling fan down rods. Man I did 1000s of them back in the 1990s you doing great better than factory.
That could be a chip of the month award.
Beautiful chips
Really cool looking chips
That should win Chip Of the Week for sure..
I believe those thread on in the other direction. I have put together my share of ceiling fans & then some. Nice work as always.
@millomweb
3 жыл бұрын
That's not logical !
Hehe , Those Side and Face Disc Type Cutters are very very very quick in removing material , Big big cuts 🌸🌸
My local hardware store has a pipe machine, Rigid I believe. Speed chuck and cut, ream, and thread in one set up. I think it took 2 minutes each.
@tdavies4127
3 жыл бұрын
That is great if you want tapered pipe threads. Last time I got pipe threads done at home Depot the dies hadn't been changed since forever and it tore up the threads. These don't look like pipe threads to me.
@simcoespring
3 жыл бұрын
those machines are for NPT (national pipe thread) and it looks like these are a finer thread than that....too many different thread types. we have this problem all the time as a mechanic...always trying to find the correct thread count, pitch and depth
@paulcopeland9035
3 жыл бұрын
@@simcoespring ...In the home centers, the machines are set for pipe (NPT) which is probably 999 out of a 1000 requests. If you want something other than NPT (SAE, Metric, etc) you merely change the segments and do the adjustments (however I doubt very much that your everyday Home Depot has the alternate segments, but you never know)! Rigid (and many others) offer various thread styles in all gauges, with adjustable die heads sized from 1/8th to 2". Over 2", you need a different setup ( 2 1/2" to 4" are an entirely different show)! but the power heads can do it if you have the right accessories.
@simcoespring
3 жыл бұрын
@@paulcopeland9035 yah, our home depot doesn't have anything other than grass seed and rakes. We have to go to a shop like aboms. There is one other place but they only do NPT and only in a few sizes. (baised on the pipe they have in stock) OR rent the pipe threader, and hope they have your size.
That girl was realy hungry for some chip :) Nice vid as always Adam.
Trust me, you could sell those chips. That was so cool!!
7:03 I finally understand how the Italians make those funky pasta shapes 😂
@NSResponder
3 жыл бұрын
Never saw a big block of semi-hard pasta on a milling machine. Have to use Marina or Alfredo coolant.
Great content thanks for sharing
Slow motion was very nice!
Thank you for sharing your wonderful videos I am from a very sad South Africa
Nice machine Nice tool Nice cut Nice guy Nice video Need i say more?
@gdkamath
3 жыл бұрын
You are a Nice fan Nice comment
Very impressive
Enjoyed! Great Camera work!! Cheers! ;-)!!!
Thanks for sharing!
I Enjoy All of your Videos Thank U My Friend
You have every toy there is 😍