I'm both fascinated and horrified by just how fast ships that large can sink.

@rjonsen

Күн бұрын

It is really scary to see how fast she went

In WWII submarine movies, men on the attacking sub can hear the steel of sinking ship groaning an snapping. This video made me realize those sound effects were pretty accurate.

@rjonsen

11 күн бұрын

It is indeed

@doughesson

8 күн бұрын

I know a guy who'd been a sonarman on submarines & one of the few references that he could make to his old job was that he'd heard a ship sinking & it bothered him for years what he heard.

@rjonsen

8 күн бұрын

@@doughesson oh dear, doesn't sound nice at all

@ericanderson8965

7 күн бұрын

​@@rjonsenIt's NOT! Retired Navy ASW crewman

@VVtos174

Күн бұрын

@@doughesson On this week's episode of "Things that never happened"

"Hold on tight, Rose! When I tell you, take a deep breath!"

@winburna2075

4 күн бұрын

I trust you!

@johngazzola7293

Күн бұрын

"She's made of iron sir, I assure you she can!"

@areyouavinalaff

Күн бұрын

Rose: get off my big door!

@capndallas4918

Күн бұрын

There's no one on the ship, it's been scuttled duh.

@rjonsen

Күн бұрын

@capndallas4918 everyone was accouted for luckily

Clearest quality video I've seen of Stellar Banner. I appreciate that you point out the effect of water pressure breaking her apart as she went, and even seeing that as the hatches slip under. Stellar Banner's sinking being video recorded is some of my favorite visuals to have, simply for giving prime example of how these ships (be it bulkers, ore carriers, or OBOs), despite their enormous size, can sink quite suddenly. Studying these types of casualties, there are often descriptions that give clue to this. The Nagos, in May 1993, taking on water after suffering structural damage forward, and with roughly half her crew picked up by South African air rescue, was awaiting a salvage tug. According to the tug's crew, all contact was suddenly lost, and Nagos disappeared from their radar screen. In February 1997, the captain of Leros Strength, issuing a frantic distress call describing the foremost hatch awash, then contact being lost three minutes later. No doubt scenes similar to this took place far from any witnessing eyes. Above all, however, the ship that comes to mind with Stellar Banner's loss is that of Stellar Daisy in 2017. She suffered a rapid brittle fracture in No.2/3 ballast tanks, port side, and the captain texted a contact of the owners that they were taking on water. It took just five minutes from then till the EPIRB went off.

@rjonsen

11 күн бұрын

Thank you! 🙂 Didn't know about Stellar Daisy, hope the crew survived

@sse_weston4138

11 күн бұрын

@@rjonsen 2 out of 24 survived, by sheer luck. One survivor was on the bridge, and stepped out to the port bridge wing directly into the water (Stellar Daisy listed over about 45 degrees). The other survivor had been trying to free life saving gear on the starboard side and was swept away as she sank. How they weren't dragged down too, I have no idea.

@rjonsen

11 күн бұрын

@sse_weston4138 that's tragic, the two survivors were really lucky for sure

@davidstewart4570

11 күн бұрын

@@sse_weston4138 Indeed. Huge quantities of air trapped in the ship escape and earate the water, making buoyancy and swimming almost impossible.

@rjonsen

11 күн бұрын

Indeed

incredible how quick it happens. and the speed it is diving down with! frightening.

@rjonsen

7 күн бұрын

It's really scary how quick she went down

@mickclarke5741

4 күн бұрын

With all that iron ore on her it's no wonder.

@rolanddeschain6089

Күн бұрын

Oh yes! Especially when you consider how slowly it was going before. It takes a while for the ship to be swamped like that. Then suddenly, within 30 seconds, it's gone. Crazy.

Love how the radar unit was left on,spinning till the end.

@rjonsen

12 күн бұрын

They kept as much as they could running to burn as much fuel as possible

@DrDrehstrom

10 күн бұрын

And the lights are burning on deck too 😳

@rjonsen

10 күн бұрын

@@DrDrehstrom they left as much as possible of the equipment on to burn as much fuel as possible

@doughesson

8 күн бұрын

@@rjonsen They couldn't have lightered the fuel off the ship or gotten as much usable equipment off first?

@rjonsen

8 күн бұрын

@doughesson the salvage company did just what you said, really hard to get out everything

The sounds it makes while going down i allways asked myself from watching "das Boot" if you really heard these metal creaking sounds under water. But you can even hear it above water so it must be really loud on a hydrophone. Also the way it just speeds down into the ocean at around 1:25 is crazy imagine you are still on the ship and you think "yeah at this rate we got another 2 minutes before it sinks" but then suddenly it speeds up and almost looks like the ship just entered a hyperspace portal and disappears in seconds.

@rjonsen

13 күн бұрын

Working on ships myself, it's really scary to see how fast it goes down.

“The fish love it, it’s good for their tummy” -King Mudbeard

this might sound weird but it was oddly emotional watching it go down. I felt like watching a loved one leave even though I have never heard of this ship before

@rjonsen

11 ай бұрын

It was really sad seeing her disappear into the ocean

@Inyourhideyhole

5 күн бұрын

Facts vato 😊❤😢😢😢

@pimuce

4 күн бұрын

@@rjonsenincredible !! sunk in one minute 😮😮😮😮😮

@rjonsen

4 күн бұрын

@pimuce it's really scary how quickly she went

Cool how the funnel ripped loose and popped up to the surface

@rjonsen

12 күн бұрын

It was quite supprising seeing it float to the surface again

It’s sad for the ship it’s worked so long for us only to get betrayed by us running it aground and making it sink.

@rjonsen

Күн бұрын

It is sad indeed

@actionman9451

Күн бұрын

@@rjonsen 👍😔

Radar still turning, lights on, generators still running. Didn't pump the fuel off?

@rjonsen

Ай бұрын

They pumped out as much as they managed. They let everything run to burn as much fuel as possible

Sad to see a ship go down

@rjonsen

8 күн бұрын

It is sad indeed

I guess the sinking ship sound effects in movies were pretty accurate.

@rjonsen

3 күн бұрын

They sure are

Would Love the video of underwater view of sinking into big blue.

According to the company '“Prior to scuttling, floating objects, such as mooring line and pollutants, also a minimal quantity of gas oil which had remained onboard have been removed. Part of the iron ore, navigation equipment and basic machinery remained on the vessel, which are deemed to pose no risk to marine life,”

@rjonsen

14 күн бұрын

Correct

@michaelhenzen7993

2 күн бұрын

Noch mehr Lügen

@bad74maverick1

2 күн бұрын

@@michaelhenzen7993 cite your credible sources youtube troll.

@gabemissouri

2 күн бұрын

@@michaelhenzen7993 Why is bro so mad at a sinking ship?

@michaelhenzen7993

2 күн бұрын

@@bad74maverick1 Ich nicht aber du😂

Amazing power unleashed by water to shear that smoke stack right off... Imagine if you waited until the end on the stern to jump off - you might not make it with all that debris and churning water.

@rjonsen

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't be anywhere near that in the water 😂

Me watching this while watching titanic last scene on another device 😂😂

@rjonsen

4 күн бұрын

haha

Did the Stellar Banner blow her horn right before she went down? or was it the tug towards her bow? i'm referring to the first, duller horn, not the second one that is clearly from the vessel that was filming her sinking.

@rjonsen

10 күн бұрын

The Stellar Banners horn was rigged with a float switch, triggering it as a last farewell

Almost no pollution if the fuel has been emptied and no asbestos inside. Ship iron is actually one of the best thing ever landed on seabed. Fishes will call it their new home.

@rjonsen

Күн бұрын

Indeed

@Sean-gt4vv

10 сағат бұрын

You can still see the radar at the top spinning, which I think means the ship still has fuel. It could just be the wind tho and I could be wrong.

@rjonsen

10 сағат бұрын

@@Sean-gt4vv the salvage company pumped out as much of the oils as possible, but they didn't manage to get out everything. They let as much as possible run to burn as much as possible

@Sean-gt4vv

9 сағат бұрын

@@rjonsen ty for the context. It’s good to hear that the thought was there!

Keeping the oceans clean I see 👍👍👍 putrid is doing the same to his navy

It would have been cool to have some underwater video as it went down

recently got into marine transport this is heartbreaking

@rjonsen

Күн бұрын

It sure is

Nice

@rjonsen

13 сағат бұрын

Thank you 🙂

Incredible

@rjonsen

4 күн бұрын

Thank you! 🙂

Imagine if it was the Titanic 😢

Phenomonal❤❤❤

@rjonsen

3 күн бұрын

Thank you! 🙂

Ngl its sad to see all that iron ore go down, that's alot of useful material gone to waste

@rjonsen

Күн бұрын

It is for sure

crazy to think something that huge is down in the dark abyss now. Unsettling

@rjonsen

12 күн бұрын

It's someting to think about for sure

What a waste of Iron Ore. Imagine all thay energy spent getting it out of the ground with the hope of of turning it into quality steel

@rjonsen

2 күн бұрын

It's a shame indeed

1:30 aww lmao

Sure would love to hear what that sounds like underneath the waterline

@rjonsen

11 күн бұрын

Pretty sure it will be loud under water

I saw a vlcc sink in around 1977, the ship was Sun Seahorse, scuttled on 18deg west, turrned out to be a big fraud, ship was originally called Salem, I was a junior engineer on British Trident, we picked up the crew and took them into Dakar.

Well that was quicker than I thought.

@rjonsen

2 ай бұрын

She went down really quickly

@jaex9617

12 күн бұрын

twss

Expensive loss. It’s a shame she couldn’t have been scrapped 😢 Insurance will help recover the loss.

@rjonsen

Жыл бұрын

It's a shame indeed!

@gabemissouri

Жыл бұрын

Honestly think she is better at the bottom of the ocean than in a scrapyard.

@user-lv7ph7hs7l

14 күн бұрын

With that cargo you could have just melted down the entire thing.

@michaelhenzen7993

2 күн бұрын

Könnte schon..Aber das Vergiften der Meere hat bei den Antifaschisten Vorrang...

@michaelhenzen7993

2 күн бұрын

​@@gabemissouriDich sollte man mit Untergehen lassen..Allein für deine Aussage

What a tragedy and loss of iron ore

@rjonsen

3 күн бұрын

It sure is, luckily the crew was safe

Those darn South American icebergs did this.

@rjonsen

12 күн бұрын

😂 It went a ground on a sand bank, deployed the anchor and the anchor made a long tear in the hull

No wonder the sea level is going up!😂

@rjonsen

14 күн бұрын

A small contributing factor 😂

@boataxe4605

12 күн бұрын

Don’t you understand that the entire ship is filled with water after it’s sunk?

@marcobeardo1410

12 күн бұрын

Actually sea level is going down when a ship sinks. In order to stay afloat, ship keel must displace a quantity of sea water higher than the mass of the ship. When ship sits on the bottom of the sea, she no longer needs to displace as much water, so sea level gets (infinitesimally) lower.

@mattblack6414

12 күн бұрын

But all of the ship that is normally above the waterline is now displacing water... 🤔

@jeanbrandt2624

11 күн бұрын

@@boataxe4605 sure, but there is a certain amount of bulk from the steel or whatever that makes up the ship. Really insignificant when compared to the vastness of the seas

Has anyone ever recorded a ship sinking from an underwater view? Maybe 100 feet down?

@rjonsen

12 күн бұрын

That's a really good question, haven't seen footage of it myself

Good

@rjonsen

8 күн бұрын

Thank you

hell yeah

How would it run aground and then sink ?

@rjonsen

Жыл бұрын

It was towed to deep water and scuttled, the salvage company didn't see any other outcome

@ericvonp

4 ай бұрын

Insurance claim and salvage rights everyone wins except environmentalists

@rjonsen

4 ай бұрын

For sure

I assume they never salvaged any electrical components since i can see the radar spinning?

@rjonsen

7 ай бұрын

They didn't salvage much, they kept as much as they could running to burn as much possible of the fuel they could not pump out

@user-tg7ip5ns9o

3 ай бұрын

В момент затопления дг были в работе!

@rjonsen

3 ай бұрын

They were indeed

Would the parts of the stern have imploded as she sank further deep down? There is no way that the entirety of the stern filled up with water prior to it suddenly and very quickly going under. The stern would have very rapidly flooded as she went under, forcing the air out very quickly (like the stern on the Titanic I believe). Therefore, would she have imploded as this happened? Just look at what happened to the funnel. A very impressive video.

@rjonsen

4 күн бұрын

That's a really good question what happened with the stern. Thank you 🙂

Интересно посмотреть..

@rjonsen

4 күн бұрын

It was something different for sure

How could it sink if it ran aground? Or was it moved away and then sunk? Why would that make sense?

@rjonsen

3 күн бұрын

The salvage company partly offloaded her to get her afloat, then she was towed to deep water for scuttling

Did they unload it first?

@rjonsen

4 күн бұрын

They unloaded between a 3rd and half the cargo to re-float her, before towing her away to deeper waters for scuttling

i hope all the fluids and oils were removed before?

@rjonsen

10 күн бұрын

The salvage company pumped out as much of the fluids as possible

Did they at least try to remove most things and fuel/ oil first? Seems like it should be illegal to do that.

@rjonsen

Жыл бұрын

They did pump out as much fuel/oil as possible before sinking it

Вот так делай два раза в день, в старости будет, что вспомнить.

Stop using the sea as a dumping ground

@rjonsen

6 күн бұрын

Agree with you

How could it sink if it ran aground ?

@rjonsen

4 ай бұрын

The ship was floated, but was too heavily damaged to justify the economics of rebuild her. She was towed to deep waters and scuttled

@user-tg7ip5ns9o

3 ай бұрын

На какой глубине затопили?

@rjonsen

3 ай бұрын

It was over 1000m depth

Just out of curiosity but if it ran aground how can it be sunk?

@rjonsen

4 күн бұрын

She was re-floated, but the damages were to severe. Someome made the decision to scuttle her

Its not just "some noise".

Does anyone know how deep it sank?

@rjonsen

27 күн бұрын

They said it was over 1000m depth

350 000 tons of iron ore represents considerable cash value. I'm wondering if most, or any, of the ore was removed before she was scuttled. Something fishy here because the ship, too, after being unladen and consequently floating at less draught, could probably have been towed to drydock and repaired. My guess is that the insurance provider and/or Brazilian marine authority, realizing that above option was more costly than scuttling, chose the latter. Which raises some disturbing questions...do governments and insurance providers presume to have the authority to make ENVIRONMENTAL decisions based on profitability ?? What was the damage, if any, to marine life in the area where this ship was scuttled ?? What penalties were imposed on the ship's operators for navigational negligence ??

@rjonsen

8 күн бұрын

Spot on

@johnbellocchio66

6 күн бұрын

Did either one of you bother to think that your preachy excessive dirge of a comment might not be rooted in fact, and that a scope of harm was done to see what option had less damage? Of course not. Because you can't listen and learn at the same time

@californiadreaming9216

6 күн бұрын

@@johnbellocchio66 Somebody forgot to take his medication...again !! 😥

@californiadreaming9216

6 күн бұрын

@@johnbellocchio66 so...after you discussed the transfer of the freight to another ship, and sat down with the Brazilian marine authority as well as this ship's underwriter and it was revealed to you that scuttling was an option being pursued not by economics but for other reasons, what did they share with you ?? Please fill us in O Grand Visier. We await your response with bated breath.

@johnbellocchio66

5 күн бұрын

@@californiadreaming9216 oh shut up and stop whining

I Wonder how deep the ocean is there?

@rjonsen

3 күн бұрын

It was deeper than 1000m

uhhh hey boss we destroyed the ship... yeah it sank and everythimg

So sad 😢

@rjonsen

6 күн бұрын

It is indeed

Captain go down with the ship ?

@rjonsen

6 күн бұрын

He got rescued, together with the rest of the crew

Now that ship is thousands of feet at the bottom the ocean just like the titanic huh?

@rjonsen

4 күн бұрын

It is indeed

Why not scrap it.❤🎉

@rjonsen

8 күн бұрын

That's a good question, the salvage company found out the damage was too severe to get the vessel anywhere to scrap it

The smokestack detached from the vessel. It floats back up at 1:38.

@rjonsen

3 ай бұрын

It eventually went down as well, the void inside the smoke stack was filled with air giving it enough buoyancy for a while

Damn, thats so scary. The speed she went under. Iron ore is such a dense cargo. Underestimate the dangers of it at your peril!!!

@rjonsen

9 күн бұрын

For sure!

Bet it hit the bottom hard, going down that fast.

@rjonsen

4 күн бұрын

It must have done

but as fascinating it may be to behold, the degree of pollution this event must have caused is horrible.

@rjonsen

6 күн бұрын

It is not good at all

@manveerparmar6570

5 күн бұрын

Bacteria will eat the ship and the ship will be colonized by the local undersea wild.

@imaginatorproductions

4 күн бұрын

⁠@@manveerparmar6570yes the whole point is to make an artificial reef

@schneevongestern9898

4 күн бұрын

@@manveerparmar6570 eventually, yes. completely unrelated fact, though. the pollution will have been immense nonetheless.

@massivehunt

4 күн бұрын

​@@schneevongestern9898na just a small drop in the ocean.

스텔라 배너?

@rjonsen

8 күн бұрын

Stellar Banner indeed

Titanic

@rjonsen

2 күн бұрын

Indeed

It can be an artificial reef; did they consider that? The ship can serve one last purpose as an artificial reef.

@rjonsen

18 күн бұрын

It certainly could be, not sure if it was considered

@michaelmacleod7051

13 күн бұрын

By every measure it now is an artificial reef

@rjonsen

13 күн бұрын

@@michaelmacleod7051 indeed

@peterchilds7176

11 күн бұрын

They would need to sanitise the ship before allowing it to become a reef or dive wreck, if they didn’t have enough time to pump all the fuel and oils off etc then there isn’t a chance that they would scuttle purposely inshore.

@rjonsen

10 күн бұрын

@@peterchilds7176 that's true

The Brazilian scrap metal dealers myst be swearing.

@rjonsen

5 күн бұрын

They must have been

Bummer!! She looks like she was a magnificent Ship in her day!

@rjonsen

10 күн бұрын

The vessel was not old at all, only a few years old if I remember correctly

Some people are just too stupid 4 salvage operations

@rjonsen

Күн бұрын

Guess they did their best

350,000 tons ??????

@rjonsen

7 күн бұрын

Correct

@johnziegelbauer4999

7 күн бұрын

@rjonsen Wow , a big one ...

@rjonsen

7 күн бұрын

@@johnziegelbauer4999 it certainly was

Where are the violin players?

@rjonsen

5 күн бұрын

That's a good question, they must have fled the scene

ファンネルが分離してる。

There will be a huge phytoplankton or algae bloom at that site. Huge reserves of Iron will fertilizer that part of the sea.

The ship was sank on purpose folks,,,,,,,,but what is bad is the ship was towed out in the ocean and sunk easiest way to get ride of it,,,,,,,just throw in the ocean,,,,,,,

@superstevegamingshortsandv3174

Ай бұрын

Yeah it’s called scuttling a ship

@garrett69

13 күн бұрын

Don't feel bad, nature will reclaim it. Think of all those fishes with a new home

@boataxe4605

12 күн бұрын

It’s called creating an artificial reef. It’s a good thing.

@HansKlopek

12 күн бұрын

Its a massive benefit to nature.

@joseantonionavarro6099

12 күн бұрын

Y te sueltan el royo de que está descontaminado y sirve de arrecife 😂😂😂😂😂😂

All that pollution

@rjonsen

3 күн бұрын

It is not good for sure

Pollution!

@rjonsen

13 күн бұрын

It's not ideal for sure, they didn't have many options due to the substantial damage to the hull

so if the ship broke in two, this could give a good example of how he Titanic might have sunk.

@rjonsen

Ай бұрын

For sure

What a terrible waste of the ship and its cargo.

@rjonsen

13 күн бұрын

So true

Normally boats are made to float and not act a submarine diving into to water like that 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@rjonsen

12 күн бұрын

So true 😂

Um, if it ran aground, how then is it sinking bow-first? Plus the radar is rotating. Hmmm. Took less time for her to sink than the Derbyshire.

@rjonsen

12 күн бұрын

A lot of the cargo was unloaded while she was a ground, then re-floated. The salvage company and other parties decided to scuttle her after towing her to deep waters.

Someone's getting rid of evidence....

@rjonsen

12 күн бұрын

The damages wss well documented before they let her go

@jazzmodern

12 күн бұрын

@@rjonsen why didn't they salvage any of the materiel? Who knows what's in those containers.......

@rjonsen

12 күн бұрын

@@jazzmodern I'm not sure tbh. The containers were used for salvage equipment, and was emptied

@sse_weston4138

11 күн бұрын

@@jazzmodern If by containers, you mean cargo hold, then just remnants of what iron ore they couldn't offload.

So old ships and trash just get tossed into the ocean. Nice.....

@rjonsen

11 күн бұрын

This vessel was actually quite new, but the crew took a shortcut that didn't work out, and it ended up beyond repair

You are going to have to run the 350,000 tons of iron ore past us again. Not hardly possible. 1000' long ore carriers on the great lakes in the US don't carry even 100,000 tons

@rjonsen

4 ай бұрын

The VLOC's could take up to 400,000 tons of cargo

@AljosaKocen

13 күн бұрын

Even the largest Laker (Say Paul R treghurta does not have the beam of more than 105', or 32m, and design draft of 9m or 30' . This sad lassie had a beam of 180ft (55m) and draft of 70' or 21m. MS Ore Brasil (ex Vale Brasil) is even larger at 1187' * 213' * 76') and summer DWT of 402,347

@rjonsen

13 күн бұрын

These VLOC's are some different beasts for sure

@krashd

4 күн бұрын

The ships on the great lakes are minnows compared to ocean-going ships, just because they have "great" in their name doesn't mean they are sailed by the biggest vessels.

@rjonsen

4 күн бұрын

@@krashd indeed

Yep, but this ship look like it was deliberately sunk, because you can see the exploding air bubbles along her forward deck. It is obvious that this ship was towed to deep water, after they have probably offloaded a huge amount of her cargo. This ship could not sunk if it was still stuck on the reef, and to offload the cargo while it was still stuck would have been difficult, but not impossible. The Netherlands have the best Marine heavy ship salvaging companies in the world, and they boast that they can mobilize all their resources within 72 hours, if their services are needed. Ps, I will bet that they managed to offload enough of this ship cargo to free her, and given the serious hull damage she was towed far away to deep water, before they scuttled the ship.

@justintyler4693

Жыл бұрын

Dude... the video doesnt try to hide the fact it was sunk on purpose, it's called scuttling a ship, the video explains they are scuttling it.

@rjonsen

Жыл бұрын

It was scuttled on purpose, the salvage company didn't see any other option

actually pretty scary to watch

@rjonsen

6 күн бұрын

It is indeed

Yep, more marine pollution... its never ending.

@rjonsen

12 күн бұрын

It sadly is

Imagine all the oil, fuel and other toxics just releasing in the ocean….but we’ll save the planet by using paper straws. It’s ridiculous 🤷🏻‍♂️

@rjonsen

12 күн бұрын

The salvage company pumped out everything they could, and took away as much loose items as possible before scuttling her

Hey, is that the SS Joe Biden?

@IanStClair-dy1eu

8 күн бұрын

No, its the SS america.

So dirty

@rjonsen

2 күн бұрын

It sure is