If you want to escape punishment you need to increase your FFP breach count to 100+...anything less will get you in trouble

@50_shadesof_green88

6 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 But legit comment though 🙏🏻

@runningfox5091

6 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 seems about right

@michaeljones3694

6 ай бұрын

Stalin said something like "kill 1 person it's murder, kill 100 people it's mass murder, kill a million people it's a statistic" City's offences are so huge the punishment is unthinkable to PL. City will be defended by Gov't in case they upset the Arabs. Like when the Gov't forced through the Newcastle sale to the Saudi's because they were scared of losing arms deals.

@terrypage358

6 ай бұрын

Mancheatster city is our name. Cheating is our game

@ForburyLion

6 ай бұрын

Either hire better accountants so you don't get caught or hire better lawyers so they run rings round the Premier League for years if you are caught. It also helps if you're successful and draw in big viewership numbers for the Premier League.

How is this just? Everton get 10 points deduction yet Man City with 115 charges are moving scot-free.

@xmazer22

6 ай бұрын

Yeh why they stalling it should be the rule to all

@oufc90

6 ай бұрын

At the moment they have, but the Man City case is still ongoing. It’ll take a long time for the case to conclude because of the amount of charges to assess.

@garytomas5411

6 ай бұрын

UEFA are involved in city’s case they could loose the champions league title

@rajeevpalthukral764

6 ай бұрын

@@oufc90 yeah , charges are only 15 years old , any chance they are decided before 2050 , or is that too early ? By the way Everton's offense go all the way back to 2018

@GJ1607.

6 ай бұрын

​@@garytomas5411they should be relegated to the bottom tier of English football just like rangers were in Scotland 😊

Not an Everton supporter, but how have Everton been hammered like this and yet Man City breeze through unaffected.

@garfield2193

6 ай бұрын

Because UEFA, despite their efforts, couldn't prove to CAS that there were any FFP rule breaches by City. No guilt, so no related punishment. The Toffees have been found guilty of the FFP rule breach. But the punishment is ridiculous - I mean, you only get a 10-point deduction if a club falls into administration FFS! And Man United only got a fine for their FFP rule breach recently, albeit from UEFA who don't have the authority to deduct points.

@gazagovana3291

6 ай бұрын

Money talk

@GlovesareoffSweetScience

6 ай бұрын

​@gazagovana3291 Maybe true, but. Man City turn up in court for 115 charges. Judge: Sheikh Mansour how do you plead. Sheikh Mansou: Not Guilty your honor. 115 charges to be investigated with a fine comb. Everton turn up at court for 1 charge. Judge: Farhad Moshiri how do you plead. Farhad Moshiri: Guilty your honor. Case closed. Punishment by 10 points deduction. Lol. It's that simple. In layman's terms.

@johnchristopher792

6 ай бұрын

City’s lawyers are the best and most expensive in the business and will tie the PL in Knott’s for years . Everton cant afford that …simple

@TacitusKilgore165

6 ай бұрын

Because City have done nothing wrong

Surely if city are guilty of even half of their charges minimum must be relegation???

@virtualcity721

6 ай бұрын

no, 10 point decduction at the start of the next 3 up coming seasons

@mikem9309

6 ай бұрын

I think anything less than relegation won’t mean much to them. Even if they stripped them to 0 half way through the season they would probably still stay up. If guilty they MUST be relegated. The unfair thing is that it sucks for the championship as it means that there is essentially 1 less team getting promoted that season.

@louiserothwell2123

6 ай бұрын

Wow all these financial experts, have City been found guilty?

@mnb9162

6 ай бұрын

​@virtualcity721... 10 points wont hurt City... They still get UCL...

@malibongwematewu4007

6 ай бұрын

@@louiserothwell2123 My sentiments exactly. I'm here in South Africa wanting and trying to find out when was City found guilty of those allegations.

This is absolutely brutal. Other clubs in the league been guilty of far worse

@columcunningham4458

6 ай бұрын

2 other clubs for sure

@onlyfacts9969

6 ай бұрын

Yeah but they have to wait until all their cases are done with Everton only had one case so it was quick. It's not hard to understand 😂

@omegaman6494

6 ай бұрын

Like the reigning champions man City

@randomlyentertaining9548

6 ай бұрын

👀 I wonder what man city's punishment will be 🤔

@d.s2660

6 ай бұрын

Should have happened last season. It's a total joke. Everton should be in the championship.

I'm on the red side of Liverpool, but totally disagree with this decision, especially considering the League's lack of action against City for so many years.

@ravd8082

6 ай бұрын

thier time will come its the number of charges will take time to investigate

@bleb87

6 ай бұрын

Im not saying we shouldn't be punished. But 10 points? For 20m overspend on a stadium? Geez

@millerchassis6119

6 ай бұрын

So if it’s £20mover spend for every 10 points you get deducted How many points will city get? 0 because oil money said so.

@ness-ee

6 ай бұрын

@@bleb87new stadiums now cost half a billion and 10 points. West Ham and Citeh are in Olympic/Commonwealth stadiums. If Aston Villa want a new one without being deducted 10 points they need to wait for Birmingham to be awarded the Olympics 🤞

@catomacro8325

6 ай бұрын

If you are going to get a 10 point deduction, this is the season for Everton to get it. They won't get relegated,the quality at the bottom of the table is so poor that Eve will be safe , equally they were not getting a CL ,Europa or even a Europa Conference place this season Take the hit and just move on

Everton fans were initially gutted at the decision. Then, they realised Burnley, Luton and Sheffield United are in the Premier League as a comfort blanket.

@TurboThunda

6 ай бұрын

lol its just sad how little parity there is in the EPL. 3 teams come up, and they all go back down

@iguiste23

6 ай бұрын

I wouldn't under estimate Luton, sure they're hardly top 5 material but they could stay up into next season. They shook an on form Liverpool, gave Man Utd a rough run to victory and might go on to win a decent portion of their games going into the second half of the season. Some of the lower teams have grabbed points in recent weeks which could be bad for Everton losing 10.

@mikethomas4423

6 ай бұрын

​@@TurboThundathe teams that went down are 1st 2nd and 4th in the championship, so not really true .

@MrsRhianne1996

6 ай бұрын

Everton will be mid table by Christmas.

@wongyeng88

6 ай бұрын

😂

Portsmouth go into administration - 9 points Everton breach FFP with a highly dubious technical issue - 10 points. Absolute joke.

@Cosmic-Wanderer

6 ай бұрын

Technical issue? 🤣. They admitted wrongdoing. They should’ve been relegated and so should City

@jakecook4816

6 ай бұрын

Swindon did the same or similar and got demoted two leagues.

@melabshier5812

6 ай бұрын

Everton will get the 9 point administration deduction later in the season.

@dom4534

6 ай бұрын

Another clueless comment

@leehaslam5751

6 ай бұрын

My team bham were deducted the same as were other clubs u admitted u broke rules and ur surprised about this!

10 points for going over by 19.5M over the period of 3 years!!! You only get a 9 point deduction for going into administration!

PL: Everton -10 points Everton: We are going to appeal Martin: Simon, Everton seem like they are going to appeal

I'm a west ham fan and think what happened to Everton is terrible news funny how city keep dodging bullets

@djsjtj1731

5 ай бұрын

It’s not funny though mate it’s an absolute disgrace

The clubs who want to sue Everton are barking up the wrong tree....they should sue the PL

@garytomas5411

6 ай бұрын

It’s the premier league they have to sue can’t sue a club

@NorfolkCatKickers

6 ай бұрын

the report said we didnt gain a sporting advantage, so no chance

@timbarrett8039

6 ай бұрын

Absolutely, as a Leeds fan, the 10 point deduction wouldn't have made any difference. We finished the second bottom team because players we bought and retained simply weren't good enough over the 38 game season!!

City need to drop to National League. Fair is fair.

@jeangomes3489

6 ай бұрын

Not gonna happen 😂

@astrologiaeaudiobooks7278

6 ай бұрын

Do you know how much Abu Dhabi money is put into England every year, and vice-versa? It's better not to upset them with regulation and fair play bullshit.

@me-ey8uu

6 ай бұрын

@@astrologiaeaudiobooks7278better not to upset them with regulation, are you actually serious😂..UAE chose to invest and chose to loophole sponsorship receipts leaving the landscape of football extremely lopsided. Your comment is the epitome with what’s wrong w the world 😂

@paulross1296

6 ай бұрын

Is that it. "The national league"? I would have said at least the Scottish premiership. 😅😅😅

@astrologiaeaudiobooks7278

6 ай бұрын

@@me-ey8uu Ok, human rights and democracy hero. This is about politics, the image of a State and billions of pounds invested in the Manchester area. Good luck messing with that to make this planet "a better place to live" 😂😂.

Ffp, 5 sub rule and VAR all in place to keep the top teams at the top and maximise profits. The prem is closer to WWE nowadays than actual sport. Everton being punished before chelsea and city further demonstrates this, the game is corrupt to the core.

@nickchivers9029

6 ай бұрын

It's not that deep it's that Evertons case was very simple compared to that of City and Chelsea.

@mikesweeney1827

6 ай бұрын

Don't watch then 👍🏻

@jaimewood2241

6 ай бұрын

That opening sentence is 100% perfect. Protect the elite, nobody else matters.

@grantmcaskell4568

6 ай бұрын

Don't think VAR.proteced Liverpool.

I'm not an Everton Fan,but this is disgusting,this just reinforced my view that society at large is broken, lawless snd Corrupt 😢

@holeefuk413

6 ай бұрын

Did you not listen to anything that was just said ?

@TomCushnie

6 ай бұрын

What's it got to do with society 😂😂

@mikem8211

6 ай бұрын

It's disgusting how City have done what they've done in the last 10 years and you guy's get fined unbelievable

@holeefuk413

6 ай бұрын

@@TomCushnie he thought he was saying something profound

@Mikejames1080

6 ай бұрын

😂

How the premier league have managed to deal with everton but still havent dealt with man city and there 115 charges is amazing.

I believe something big is coming for Man City. This commission is fining teams now deducting points and that argument of this doesn’t happen to anyone else which Pep was claiming, they can’t make that argument anymore. They are setting a standard/precedent for what Man City is going to get.

@feelinsupersonic1606

6 ай бұрын

🙏

@gunner4life568

6 ай бұрын

It's different scenario though

@Mark-99999

6 ай бұрын

@@gunner4life568yeah a whole lot worse

@virtualcity721

6 ай бұрын

City must get a 10 point deduction at the start of the next three coming seasons 😂 Chelsea must be left in peace because those breaches was under a different owner!

@GermanChickenwing

6 ай бұрын

Dream on you rival fans. . Your tears taste good tho

PGMOL & VAR took 6 points from Wolves and they didn't break any rules we know of other than not being a big six

@holeefuk413

6 ай бұрын

Talk sense will you

@keletsosebolai414

6 ай бұрын

@@holeefuk413 You probably one of those prats for supports referees and their mediocrity

@holeefuk413

6 ай бұрын

@@keletsosebolai414 you're clearly a bit slow when the top 6 have all lost points due to var 🤡

@stevearno9726

6 ай бұрын

9 points. Onana/Manchester United And then two penalties against on two consecutive games.

@tom11mansfield

6 ай бұрын

Absolute waffle

Best chance any team will ever have of staying up after a significant points deduction given how bad the promoted sides are.

@dannyboy9573

6 ай бұрын

the irony is that it will actually breathe life into the relegation battle hopefully. By design, who knows?

City’s impending punishment may well be the biggest case of schadenfreude in football history.

@ness-ee

6 ай бұрын

Barcelona losing to Liverpool 4-0 is my favourite football schadenfreude.

@kabelomaragelo2745

6 ай бұрын

Schadenfreude ? What’s that? We don’t use those words in the trenches

@garfield2193

6 ай бұрын

"impending punishment"? Last time I looked, the club hadn't been found guilty of anything. In fact, v recently, CAS - the highest sports court in europe - concluded, after hearing all the evidence, that all UEFA's accusations of FFP rule breaches by City were unproven

@toph8298

6 ай бұрын

@@garfield2193 We all know it’s coming. Also, you’re wrong about the UEFA charges. City were proven guilty but the offences were time-barred which is why they got away with it. Incidentally, no such rules apply in the Premier League.

Even with a 10 point deduction, they're only 1 win away from the bottom 3. Everton aren't going down this season coz the clubs around them couldn't win playing hook a duck.

@garfield2193

6 ай бұрын

You don't win playing hook a duck either, so the analogy doesn't really work, lol 😁

@pleasantville4529

6 ай бұрын

​@@garfield2193 I won a gold fish playing hook a duck. So your argument doesn't hold up.

@dom4534

6 ай бұрын

They are going down. And I hope they stay down

@bargainboymakem1

6 ай бұрын

@@garfield2193 What pleasantville said...of course you win at hook a duck, that's the whole point of the comment, everyone wins something playing that game. What planet did you grow up on?

@spartybrearly7221

6 ай бұрын

I read today that a further points deduction is likely.

I’m a Newcastle fan but this is shocking feel bad for Everton fans and the club don’t deserve this. 10 points very harsh

So the teams who tried to start the super league got £3 million fines, but Everton get 10 points deducted for spending £20 more than is allowed

@july99887766

6 ай бұрын

That's coz anyone going for super league has nothing to do with premier league and Everton broke the premier league rule..

@campbellfahle3036

6 ай бұрын

@@july99887766it has everything to do with the premier league as those 6 would have been breaking away from the premier league😂

@joshuarichards9209

6 ай бұрын

@@july99887766the creation of the super league does go against prem rules

@ezradja

6 ай бұрын

Crying much ...?

@jettyear3807

6 ай бұрын

@@july99887766it has nothing to do with the premier league ? They tried to leave and so break up the premier league as we know it !!

Absolutely sickening for Everton to lose 10 points from sanctions when they have been ruled they gained zero advantage from it. I’m a Liverpool fan and genuinely hope they win the appeal or go on an epic run and stay up.

@paul6560

6 ай бұрын

@@user-tn8uu2cu8g I respect your faith buddy but it is not mine. Peace be upon you and happy Sunday.

If HMRC say the accounts seem proper and correct then Everton haven't done anything wrong. Therefore no point deduction.

@yttommy76

6 ай бұрын

What are you talking about Nigel?

How is no one from the English media talking about city’s 115 FFP violations that has still gone unresolved and ignored by UEFA due to a stupid legal technicality? Seems like there’s a pretty serious favoritism issue going on

@garfield2193

6 ай бұрын

....seems like you don't really know what you're talking about ;) . The 115 you mention relates to charges brought by the PL against City re FFP rule breaches. That case is ongoing. And expect it to keep going for a few years more, as the appeals eventually reach CAS i.e. the same independent body that found insufficient evidence of any FFP rule breaches, when UEFA also had a go at prosecuting the club.

Why the delay with ManCheaty 115+ if they are refusing to cooperate the charges should stand as guilty.

Has keown not finished that crossword yet😂😂

@jimmyjohnson1990

6 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@theenforcer22

6 ай бұрын

😂

How has MAN CITY and CHELSEA gotten away with this for YEARS!?!?!? 1 billion GBP spent by chelsea!!!!

@melvyndolby8625

6 ай бұрын

Chelsea have got away with it by putting all the recently signed players on 8yr contracts, so spread the cost over 8yrs. Financial madness in my eyes. These players won't be on a pittance. You only have to look at the problem's Utd have had, stuck with player's on 5yr wealthy contracts, that they can't get out of the Club, McGuire the most recent example. If I was playing the Stock Market, Chelsea would be the last place to buy any shares. Financial Madness

Im surprised anyone is surprised. Since when as this league been fair.

was as many others shocked by the decision to deduct everton 10 points for 1 FFP infringement . Earlier this year Man Utd were given a fine of 300k also PSG (€65m), AS Roma (€35m), Inter (€26m), Juventus (€23m), AC Milan (€15m), Besiktas (€4m), AS Monaco (€2m) and Marseille (€2m) were all fined for the breach. I do not understand the reasonings being the points deduction for Everton . This impacts supporters firstly and the team who have worked so hard on the pitch to gather more points than usual recently. If this is a bench mark of 10 points per infringement then a lot of teams will be afraid .. some clubs therefore should be deducted 1000s of points if the charges are correct as accused. I would urge the appeal now for Everton and get this embarrassment of a punishmentment reviewed and a sensible decision made , everton should not be made a scapegoat for world wide football . As such Football doesn't seem like an entertainment anymore , it seems like a business and not a fun one.

@garfield2193

6 ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure UEFA don't have the power to deduct points in the PL though, and those fines you mentioned were from UEFA. But yeh, the 10-point deduction is ridiculous - you get 10 points for a club going into administration FFS!

How the hell are city not relegated if Everton have got this.. Its just so corrupt

@tomben6180

6 ай бұрын

A) City’s case hasn’t reached a conclusion because it’s more complex B) Why would City be relegated? Everton been given a points deduction and City’s alleged offence is only slightly higher… so would surely be a slightly bigger points deduction? C) United were found guilty of breaking FFPR for a larger amount than Everton or City are alleged to, why aren’t you mentioning that? Is it coz you support them?

@walidel-saleh6040

6 ай бұрын

Chelsea's woes are about to begin. Thanks, Abramovich.😂

as a united fan I fancied them to beat us in the upcoming game... and now after this deduction, they're definitely beating us. They'll have that whole 'Derby fighting a points deficit' mindset now, as they know they're just about good enough to pick up enough points to survive.

@simondalzell5635

6 ай бұрын

Hope you're right Mr doctor. UTFT

@melvyndolby8625

6 ай бұрын

The money these players are payed, they should have that mindset EVERY game.

This is absolutely disgusting and ridiculous. Man city went over their deficit limit and got a £25 million fine and they're in a second investigation of 114 FFP rules broken. Everton went over their 3 year deficit by £19.5 million and get an instant 10 point deduction. I bet man city get ONLY A FINE next year when the second investigation comes to a close. I also bet chelsea wont get investigated or points deducted for using 8 year contracts to bypass FFP rules this season even though they were stopped for this season, because of the amount of players giving 8 year contracts last year at chelsea. I'm glad my owners are playing smartly and staying under our £135 million 3-year deficit allowance, we will go over it in January because of injuries but it will come back down at the end if season with the accumulated total from ticket sales, merchandise, TV income etc etc, and our new owners have been here 2 years now.

@spat3305

6 ай бұрын

Newcastle should also be punished, blood money should be banned indefinitely. Send them to the conference league, and bring Mike Ashley back. You’re club is in the same boat as man cheaty.

@RushMCFC

6 ай бұрын

And the first real good signing gets a ban for breaching betting rules 🤣🤣

@kevinwake8789

6 ай бұрын

@@RushMCFC someone who's AGENT KNEW WHILST having talks with newcastle and didn't tell us, otherwise we wouldn't have bought him and is why my club is going after millions in compensation from his agent and Ac Milan.

@kevinwake8789

6 ай бұрын

@@spat3305 you want some tissues for those SALTY TEARS???? STRANGE HOW OURS IS BLOOD MONEY AND SHOULD BE BANNED INDEFINITELY YET YOU JUST CALL THE ARAB OWNED MAN CITY, MAN CHEATY.

@kevinwake8789

6 ай бұрын

@@RushMCFC kieran trippier and Bruno Guimarães was our FIRST DECENT SIGNINGS UNDER OUR NEW MANAGEMENT IN JANUARY 2022.

The PL is trying to make examples of teams bc they do not want an independent regulator at any cost. This is all optics

@eaglemmoomin_418

6 ай бұрын

independent regulator IS happening that's unavoidable now. I suspect the independent regulator is more likely to come down like a ton of bricks on City. City will try and drag this out.

@semicharmedlife311

6 ай бұрын

Not "teams". Just Everton b/c City & Chelsea gotten away with it thus far.

@eaglemmoomin_418

6 ай бұрын

@@semicharmedlife311 fair to point out two clubs were referred to independent panels....Everton with one charge and City with 115!! One has gone through.

@MCFCTheMadHatter

6 ай бұрын

@@eaglemmoomin_418 Remember, City was the only PL club who voted for having an independent regulator. What I find odd about them doing that, is if they are guilty of FFP breaches, then why would they vote against their own interests in wanting an ind regulator? No?

@semicharmedlife311

6 ай бұрын

@@eaglemmoomin_418 How much punishment for the "Super League" clubs that tried to ruin English football?? Until I see it, I'm assuming they've gotten away with it.

A disgrace that City remain unpunished. Corruption. That simple.

They will appeal it and itll be reduced to about 5 and a fine, still harsh but will be interested to see what happens to City and Chelsea

@philipneville4207

6 ай бұрын

Not sure about that. The Premier League appointed the independent tribunal / regulator and wanted a harsher punishment. Why would they reduce it upon appeal? Let’s see, but I do not hold out any hope for Everton. Even with all of their adjustments they are over the threshold.

To be fair to Everton their form and that of clubs at the bottom of the PL would strongly indicate that they should easily escape relegation. I also do not believe that this will demoralize the club, their players, or their fans, indeed quite the opposite. Mid-table will now seem like a great season and Everton should easily get there, so what is the problem? Football is not a game of leagues it is a game of football matches, and it seems that we need to keep reminding ourselves of this fact, however much money radio presenters and pundits either directly or indirectly make from the PL. The PL is not football, and football is not the PL.

We need to hear news on penalties for Man city and Chelsea's offences within a week!

@garfield2193

6 ай бұрын

Haha, no chance I'm afraid mate. Expect hefty sanctions given by the PL to City, but then the appeals to last another 2 or 3 years as it eventually ends up at CAS....who give them a moderate fine instead.

This just feels really unjustified somehow. Right when they were starting to have a bit of form.

“Well they’ll appeal it simon” “Yes they’ve said that Martin” 😂

It does remind me of the Tevez and Mascherano case for West Ham back in the day. If this is the sanction, and it covers actions taken in previous seasons, then the previously relegated clubs would seem to have a case to challenge their relegation. Nothing was down on that score at the time ( re Tevez and Mascherano transfers deemed to be unlawful according to the laws set by the premier league) but I imagine, given the gargantuan sums of money involved, surely a comparison will be made in the media at some point, and this time, action may be taken. This is a giant hole the PL are digging themselves into…

All of the overspent money was into relation on loans for the stadium, they should have been accepted as mitigating factors and the 19.5 million would be gone.

@tomben6180

6 ай бұрын

Only Man Utd get away with thst

Looks like Everton were the easy target - time will tell. You can`t have all that money in football without expecting underhand opportunities off the pitch, mirroring the underhand goings-on on the pitch.

Everton will stay up, even with the points deduction

@philipneville4207

6 ай бұрын

I hope not. They have contributed nothing to the Premier League and need to be relegated. Their fans live in the 1980 and talk of it being a great club are deluded.

It’s only 9 points for administration

We went over by 20 million some of which was stadium costs, ie if we went to the bank and loaned the money instead of the company paying some of the money up front we would of been below the threshold, so we "gained no sporting advantage", which the report agrees with, and because of this we get a points reduction the same as administration. Where we went wrong is we didn't cook the books.

@tomben6180

6 ай бұрын

10 points is ridiculous mate, you get 9 for going into administration! £20m is nothing in football these days

@stephenbagan3560

6 ай бұрын

Wasn’t £20 it was £19.5m sound like I’m nitpicking but it’s important as prem league say it’s 1pt for every £5m over limit

@tomben6180

6 ай бұрын

@@stephenbagan3560 where have you got that from? The Premier League and the Independent panel have said the reason for the points deduction is because the premier league spent extensive time working to help Everton meet its FFPR and Everton ignored their advice and broke it anyway. £7m a year over for 3 years isn’t a great deal, but it was the flagrant ignoring of Premier League advice that has resulted in the points deduction. It has nothing to do with the amount, which is relatively small.

We're all still waiting for 115 FC charges by Premier League

If everton is 10 points than city is at least 2 transfer bans, bans from ucl 2 seasons and 20 points deducted and a 50 million fine!

@caroljones7632

6 ай бұрын

Nothing will happen to City. It’s all corrupt

@jpswaddle7899

6 ай бұрын

​@@JordiBoy_I'm curious too, it seems very well thought out and in proportion with the Everton punishment.

@OleGitRule

6 ай бұрын

No enough based on 115 charges, they should be relegated to the SPL

@albertbell7120

6 ай бұрын

Lots off salty people wanting MC relegated

@abrahamsneo7783

6 ай бұрын

Ohh..wishful thinking. Man City is here to stay and will dominate this league for generations to come.

*1)* Everton fixed a lucrative deal with USM (Russian owner) on naming rights for the stadium. This was stripped away by HMG because of the Ukraine war. This impacted greatly. *2)* They included the interest on the building of the new stadium. Yet this was not in the _grounds_ of prosecution by the Premier League.

Martin Keown is a very odd fellow,though he did say something quite good last week and now I cannot remember what it was,oh well.

@chesterwunpen2196

6 ай бұрын

Oh well indeed. Not to worry old chap.

@CEO786

6 ай бұрын

I recall what he had said. He said that @karlydoc is a turd along with his club that he supports. ❤

@karlydoc

6 ай бұрын

Arsenal@@CEO786

What will Man City's punishment be for 100 breaches of Premier League financial regulations??

@eaglemmoomin_418

6 ай бұрын

massive I expect based on the precendent this sets.

@abrahamsneo7783

6 ай бұрын

Innocent until proven guilty. Let the due process happen.

@michaelclarke3655

6 ай бұрын

Newcastle have done nothing wrong and I’m an Everton fan

@rajeevpalthukral764

6 ай бұрын

@@abrahamsneo7783 due process ? First case dates back to 2008

@mikem8211

6 ай бұрын

​@abrahamsneo7783 Innocent until proven guilty? Mate they went from Burnley to Barcelona in 15 years wtf 😂

Let’s be honest if Everton was deducted 50 points they’d still stay up guaranteed they always find a way 😂 Great support. 100’s of teams have done it without notice it was the 20-21 season ONE SEASON. All these lower league/relegated teams have got a cheek though, Leeds had 38 chances to stay up and fucked it up for one simple reason the team was shite. But now are blaming it on Everton’s 20 million breach, give me a break.

@jamesmcdaid6124

6 ай бұрын

Nice one mate it was all to do with the stadium 19.5 m .it said in the statement the the club have not gained a sporting average

What about punishing other clubs that are protected by the Mob of football Like : Manchester United and City, Liverpool, and Chelsea… no relegations or points deductions? At least transfer windows bans!

@richardellis4636

6 ай бұрын

Chelsea have had a transfer ban.

The deduction is absolutely absurd, especially in light of their self-admission of financial issues 3 years ago. The regulators are absolutely out of control and are trying to use Everton as a use case to threaten other teams rather than treating them on the merits of the issue. Anytime someone gives a heavy handed punishment, the precedent digs a massive hole to the regulator where you are only driving greater inequity in dealing out punishment.

Sad news for Everton. Meanwhile Al-Man City makes Teflon blush.

Here come all the online accountants that think they know everything about City..I bet 80% of you dont even know the charges

Kloppo has just released a statement saying - " We should have been awarded the points deduction"

@JohnJohn-gn2ey

6 ай бұрын

'''' and so it was then God's will to make me the Boss or was it Kloppo?

Guys I’m a 68 yr old blue, seen good times and more recently bad. What has been agreed is a 10 point deduction for EFC re: FFP. If I understand it correctly, 19.5million over spend, wow! In the context of the PL, transfer values etc, minuscule. Agreed punishment should be administered if that is the rule. However, 10 points! Victimised comes to mind! You know all the arguments being raised ie City, Chelsea and more as being examples of bending the rules but these guys have greater “clout” than struggling EFC. Unfair and disgraceful comes to mind. Top 6 teams conspiring to break away from PL potentially ruining the PL finances, result? Next to nothing! Bitter or what! I predict, EFC fans will revolt! We feel so bitter about this you can never imagine. The premier league authorities, decision makers and hangers on, will from here on, be looked at as an irrelevance, enemies even. Hopefully this decision doesn’t enrage some of our supporters to revolt in the extreme, that’s how dangerous this decision has been. It has opened a can of worms! Looking forward to the hearing and conclusions regarding City & Chelsea and their fate, oh I forgot, they are big fish and part of the elite. Disgraceful!! Regards Peter Murphy Everton Season Ticket Holder

@steve-kl9iv

6 ай бұрын

Stop making excuses and fantasising about some conspiracy 😂

Get rid of FFP. It just ring fences the big clubs and stops other clubs from progressing

It seems a bit harsh. They only was over by £20m over 3 years.

@Efcdan1878

6 ай бұрын

£19.5m

@tomben6180

6 ай бұрын

Shame nobody gives City case the same opinion, which is £30m over 9 years. Yet you’d think we’d done a Juventus and bribed referees for a decade the way people go on.

@Efcdan1878

6 ай бұрын

@@tomben6180 City been cheating on a much larger scale and been cooking the books the whole while hence the non disclosure of them

@tomben6180

6 ай бұрын

@@Efcdan1878 No they haven’t, City’s entire case is £31.7m over a 9 year period, and that’s if they’re guilty of everything, that’s literally all the accusations in the case added up… you have been found guilty of £19.5m over a 3 year period. In the grand scheme of things, neither deserve a points deduction when Utd got a £500,000 fine for failing UEFA’s FFPR by £40m over 3 years. It’s tiny amounts of money.

@Efcdan1878

6 ай бұрын

Over inflating sponsorships ...so books ain't worth what their published on and forensic accountant on Premier Leagues employ needs to have a closer look, we disclosed our entire books to the Premier League, half of City's charges are non disclosure of evidence

Ok,fine.Leeds Utd should now sue the FA for the difference.If that had been rightly applied LAST season,Leeds would have stayed up,and Everton gone down.Unfair!

@tm2204

6 ай бұрын

Wrong. Leicester would have avoided relegation not Leeds.

Premier League and football in general is not as good as people make it it to be in the modern game..

@scottturner2902

6 ай бұрын

its filthy and unclean... they fleece thick punters to. silly leauge, over hyped, inflated and full of cheats

Why were UTD fined for breaking FFP but Everton are deducted points? Fishy that.

@Efcdan1878

6 ай бұрын

UEFA not premier league

SO SO Wrong City taking liberties for years, City will get pulled up but instead of getting relegated they will say not fair Bull.hit. but Everton will get out and be better for it,Spurs fan

Makes you wonder what Manchester City have on the PL to keep this dragging on...and on

@mikem8211

6 ай бұрын

That Arab bribe hits different 😂

@tomben6180

6 ай бұрын

@@mikem8211Nice racism Mike.

@tomben6180

6 ай бұрын

City’s entire case is £30m over 9 years, Everton have been found guilty of £19.5m over 3 years. City’s case is different and more complex, so City don’t have anything over the PL, it’ll take a long time because it’s more complex.

Simon Jordan is on record as saying Everton would not receive a points reduction 😅

SWFC got a 12 point penalty for overspending and incorrectly filing accounting information over three years. The cap was £35 million over three years, and they spent £65 over that time frame. It was reduced to 6 points on appeal due to the EFL being judgeship to have been malicious in their pursuit of sanctions against the club. It wasn't complex but ultimately was rightly applied. Everton receiving a 10 point deduction for breaching FFP by hundreds of millions doesn't seem harsh by comparison considering the proportional difference in size of club and the amounts of money involved because the charges levied against them (improper accounting, misrepresenting the value of club assets) are very similar to those against SWFC and subsequently against Derby county.

"One rule for thee, another for Man Citee!"

@MIP0710

6 ай бұрын

City haven’t admitted the charges unlike Everton and I’m sure they’ll get the same punishment or even more if found guilty

This is amazing, what happen to city? This is getting out of control!!!

Let's be honest about this because 30 points would be completely disproportionate for Manchester City, If Everton got 10 points for 1 breach, how can 30 points be a fair punishment for 115 breaches of the rules?

I’ll await the ongoing investigation with the other clubs under scrutiny, with immense intrigue and probably be looking at a record points deduction and maybe honours being revoked! You cannot sit on 115 charges and carry on regardless… no matter who you are! 🔥

Surely the PL can take Man City's 115 breaches one at a time. Start with #1 ; 10 point deduction. The keep going.

@joemac9249

6 ай бұрын

I bet it will be deduct 20 points, some joke of a transfer ban and laughable fine. Everything that will have little problems for them.

@tomben6180

6 ай бұрын

Look at the state of these two spanner’s commenting on something they know nothing about. City’s entire case is £30m over 9 years, Everton are guilty of £20m over 3 years. Most of City’s charges are duplicated as the accounts have a knock on affect.

@garfield2193

6 ай бұрын

It's 115 charges. Nothing proven as yet. Case is ongoing. UEFA tried to prosecute City for FFP rule breaches recently, and couldn't prove a single one to CAS!

This league has been crying out for punishment to clubs who cheat. We need to see this again for Chelsea and Man City (obviously a lot more!)

@daeball125

6 ай бұрын

Chelsea had a transfer ban before but City have never faced the music ever

@eventxxxhorizon

6 ай бұрын

Could open flood gates for Forest, Bournemouth, Villa, City, Chelsea.....but doubt it will. They are just using Everton as a whipping boy

115 charges...

We will claw back up. Punishment for breaking rules is necessary. We broke the rules. Was it fair? Not me to decide, but it better not be fines for any other clubs for ffp

How has Everton been punished and Man City has got away with so much spending.

@LeeMcGuinness-jp1tr

6 ай бұрын

Evertons point deduction is for one charge l, Man city have like 140 charges, itjust takes longer.

@semicharmedlife311

6 ай бұрын

@@LeeMcGuinness-jp1tr The Prem will just protect City, be surprised if they even bother with a fine. Saw that the "Super League" clubs got the barest slap on the wrist.

@garfield2193

6 ай бұрын

Because Everton have been found guilty of an FFP rule breach, whereas the case against City is still ongoing - you can't punish a club unless - after all the appeals have been heard - there's a final verdict of guilt.

@semicharmedlife311

6 ай бұрын

@@garfield2193 All well and good, then, if City find themselves in League One when all is said and done. But it's a Top 6 club protected by the League, so that won't happen.

@semicharmedlife311

6 ай бұрын

​@@garfield2193 So while this process plays out indefinitely, Man City just gets to buy more titles. Got it.

Why do they never punish the owners but punish the clubs ?

@holeefuk413

6 ай бұрын

Punishing the clubs is punishing the owners einstein

@matthewbarber13

6 ай бұрын

That’s a fair point, my club Reading has been docked more points than any team has been able to take from them on the pitch over the last 3 years, it’s the owner who has brought a financial mess upon the club but it’s the club that continually gets punished for the owners failure. I would argue though that clubs have legal and financial departments and the know the rules so breaking said rules should have to result in a punishment for the club as a sporting matter, you can’t circumvent the rules and expect to get away with it. But there should be additional punishments handed down to the owners/ the people running the club to get them in line too. Also whilst 10 points is harsh, the punishment needs to be tough in order to show that if you break these rules this is the minimum punishment you can expect to receive. It needs to be a deterrent to others as well.

@matthewbarber13

6 ай бұрын

@@holeefuk413what sanction has there been on Moshiri then? It’s Everton who’ve been deducted points, it’s of little to consequence to the man who’s pissed about with other peoples money. The club have been punished and rightly so but Moshiri can sell tomorrow and walk away with no sanction for him being the route cause of this situation in the first place.

@holeefuk413

6 ай бұрын

@@matthewbarber13 if you don't think losing money and the value of the club decreasing hurts the owner then I don't know what to tell ye

@alanclague2333

6 ай бұрын

Because they have no power to punish the owners. If they want to punish the owners they would need to prove a liability under civil law and take it court.

When Bournemouth were in league two we were deducted 10 points and the next season 17 points due to being in administration we were relegated and then had to fight back to keep our league status. So to now hear everton saying its a massive deduction.

Everton have spent net zero in the last 5 transfer windows while chelsea spent 800m in the last few windows 😂😂

City next please!

@MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49

6 ай бұрын

Honestly City would just leave the premier League and join a super league with Real Madrid Bayern Munich AC Milan.. City are far too powerful for the premier League.. wake up lad

@craigmarsdj

6 ай бұрын

Go on lad!

Only Heavy Duty if Man Cheaty get relegated for their 115 offences..

@tomben6180

6 ай бұрын

City aren’t accused of the same thing as Everton, so stating 115 offences means nothing, City’s entire case is £30m, Everton were found guilty of £20m. So it’d be a similar punishment if guilty but that’s a big if.

@garfield2193

6 ай бұрын

They're charges, dummy. Nothing proven as yet. Seems strange don't you think that UEFA had a go at prosecuting City for FFP rule breaches recently, but CAS concluded that nothing was proven

It just seems something's bad is going on all over the place ,this could totally change the game,

Every season, every club agrees to abide to ffp. They broke the rules and have received their punishment. I feel sorry for their loyal fans who done nothing wrong. I would be more angry at the owners for, guess what, actually breaching the rules. They knew the rules and they ignored them or made the decision to overspend. You can make an argument that the punishment is severe, but they are not innocent, so I don't fully understand the shaking of the heads and sympathy. The Everton owners/management cheated and got caught, its pretty simple.

So we just ignore Citeh's 115 charges?

@joemac9249

6 ай бұрын

Yes we ignore them

@rajeevpalthukral764

6 ай бұрын

Do you know much money they spend on fa officials ?

@garfield2193

6 ай бұрын

@@rajeevpalthukral764 No. And neither do you

@garfield2193

6 ай бұрын

They're not being ignored. That case is ongoing. And years later will end up at CAS again I reckon, like UEFA's case did

@rajeevpalthukral764

6 ай бұрын

@@garfield2193 lots

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As a Liverpool fan, Here I must say this is disgusting. When compared city

Everton got 10 points deduction whilst biggest fraudsters keep participating in all competitions, laughing at 150 charges, FFP and everyone else. Pathetic.

Very harsh. 3-6 points might have been fairer. I don't think they've purposely cooked the books and blatantly cheated! I just hope they impose the same treatment to City and maybe now, Chelsea. If it were Newcastle, you know they'd throw the book at us! Made a marker now so they'll HAVE to give others the same treatment

@joemac9249

6 ай бұрын

Not when Derby were put in administration over 50mil loss.

@garytomas5411

6 ай бұрын

Harsh they have been cheating for over 3 seasons punishment should have been relegated to lg2

@aarontaylor2308

6 ай бұрын

@@joemac9249 I think it's slightly different as it's the FA rather than PL but yes, teams in championship and below docked a lot more points for less. There's just no consistency

@aarontaylor2308

6 ай бұрын

@@garytomas5411 They've just been run poorly, it's not been done with malice I believe, whereas the situation at City looks like blatant cheating

@Efcdan1878

6 ай бұрын

I mean they did approve a proven murderer to take over your club and probably took a nice brown envelope for doing so 😂

The way Burnley, Luton and Sheffield United are playing right they could deduct 10 more points Everton could still survive. Unlike last season i don't see any of those promoted teams stay up unless some big changes are made.

I agree with Simon. This will be appealed and if Everton are well clear of relegation come March, the penalty will be reduced to about 6 points. As for Citeh. They carry a level of current European power to be able to break away from the Premier League to form a super league and shoulder the immediate cushion of fan rebellion or financial attack that would come from it. In short. The Premier League are too scared of Manchester City to go to war with them. Everton no longer have super power status, which they genuinely did have for most of the 20th Century.

City is gonna be relegated to non league football if Everton gets a ten point deduction.

@MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49

6 ай бұрын

City are too big for the premier League... honestly they would set up a super league with Real Madrid Bayern Munich...

Pretty sure Leicester didn't sign players last summer to stay within the FFP rules, and went down, but Everton have been charged for this, but will probably stay up, and stayed up narrowly last season. Seems like youre better off ignoring the rules and taking your chances with the potential penalties that come from the breaches.

@nanapabi

6 ай бұрын

leicester didnt get relegated because they didnt sign any players. they got relegated because they were shite. their squad was good enough for a mid table finish. they were just shite

@hanneswiklund2900

6 ай бұрын

Everton are in the bottom 3 for net spend on players in the last 5 years. The breach is due to interest payments on the new stadium, the comission even stated they had no sporting advantage

@martinbrown2612

6 ай бұрын

@@nanapabi can you do me a favour and use your crystal ball to tell me the numbers for the next lottery draw? I'm not sure how else you'd know what could've happened if Leicester cheated and broke ffp rules.

@martinbrown2612

6 ай бұрын

​@@hanneswiklund2900that's not an unfair argument but I think it's a bit subjective tbh, there spend might have been even lower had they conformed with the rules so I interpret that to mean they want limit the amount to which further claims could be made by teams that suffered due to the breach if I'm honest. If they say as a direct result it affected x y and z clubs it strengthens their claims.

@1Jameskelly

6 ай бұрын

Or leeds.. Should Ave been relegated

I’m a Liverpool fan and find this very sad but they will get the points they need to survive

Apparently Man City and Chelsea were previously found guilty of breaking the financial guidelines, but neither were penalised like this ....... Why ? ?

Everton in compliance with FFP rules until they lost the Usmanov and USM sponsorship deal for the new stadium, due to his ties to Russia when the Ukraine invasion started. Not so much financial mismanagement as act of god.

@Efcdan1878

6 ай бұрын

Act of Putin more like

It won't demoralise the Club. It is going to be the opposite. We will be galvanised,

So the benchmark for one offence is 10pts there must be other clubs out there shitting themselves .......... that is of course if everyone else is treated the same .......

The timing of this is ridiculous

They should count themselves lucky to get off with a ten point deduction Bolton, Blackburn, Derby, Portsmouth and Wigan dropped through divisions due to their poor ownership. Oldham and Rochdale are now non-league clubs. Bury and Macclesfield don't exist in their former states. Everton could still be a Premier League club next season with a (relatively) clean slate.

@joemac9249

6 ай бұрын

Yes I hear Everton are angry. All criminals get angry and get solicitors. Well most anyway.

@chiselcheswick5673

6 ай бұрын

What and innocent people just give in and accept the verdict??? Don't talk rubbish..

@simondalzell5635

6 ай бұрын

You Obviously DON'T understand the situation, and a proportionate sanction.

@joemac9249

6 ай бұрын

@@chiselcheswick5673 Amazing they seem more upset there is a 10 point deduction. I'm not sure Everton were so outspoken beforehand