Simon Jordan absolutely correct and nails him. 2600 Wrexham fans, more than covered the policing costs. He tried to fleece them and got caught out.

@GalayethZen

5 ай бұрын

But in the world of supply and demand, why not get them to pay for their ticket and the police cost. That was the owners point. And I’ll also note, its not just his club thats doing this. Also curious if this was a way for Wrexham to deflect attention away from the fans being upset about kit and ticket prices at home lately.

@Oiledballs-wu1cm

5 ай бұрын

Like he nailed eddie you mean

@ForburyLion

5 ай бұрын

I think he's just set the price he thinks is right for his club and maybe hasn't factored the increased volume of ticket sales and associated alcohol and food sales into it.

@KC-Zico

5 ай бұрын

@@user-tn8uu2cu8g why should I be a servant of anyone ? Why are you posting here ?!?! Let’s enjoy football WITHOUT religion ! 😳🙄😳🙄

@Geokinkladze

5 ай бұрын

If another club brings the same number of fans but incurs a lower policing cost then why should their fans pay the same as Wrexham.

Anything over £20 for a league 2 fixture is ridiculous

@anthonydeakin3834

5 ай бұрын

Wrexham charge £24 every week, yet complain when Accy charge £25 because they don’t have multi millionaire owners and sponsors.

@johnm725

5 ай бұрын

​@@anthonydeakin3834so why isn't every game 25?

@anthonydeakin3834

5 ай бұрын

@@johnm725 because they are a club in a relatively poor area of the country, don’t get me wrong, I think £20 is enough for league 2, but the hypocrisy of Wrexham is clear when they charge £24 every home game yet complain that a club with 5% of Wrexhams income charge £1 more. If Wrexham were so concerned about their fns being made to pay £25 then why do they charge £24 every week.

@creasicle

5 ай бұрын

My local team charges £20 and they're in the National League

@blinkin78

5 ай бұрын

25 to see charlton in league 1 🙄

Funniest part of that piece was when Simon was praising Andy but Andy then slags Simon off 😂😂😂

Remember what Ian Rush said “If I don’t drink lots of milk when I grow I will be only good enough to play for Accrington Stanley !!” "Accrington Stanley who are they?” “EXACTLY"

@nadaduo1765

5 ай бұрын

beat wrexham though didn't they lol

@sharman8489

5 ай бұрын

@@nadaduo1765won’t finish higher than them in the league though. That’s what really matters.

Sounds like a money grab to me nothing to do with Police cost

Even if you agreed with simon he'd disagree with you

@GlesgaBoiz

5 ай бұрын

Watch his podcast with Chisora it's hilarious hahaha

@jmc531

5 ай бұрын

​@@user-tn8uu2cu8g😂 You're not supposed to take all that nonsense seriously 😂

@villainofthepiste8275

5 ай бұрын

Very true- Loves the sound of his own voice so much that he'll argue to give himself air time. If he agrees...he can't talk as much

He deliberately avoided answering the question directly because Simon got him on the fact that they would have made more money from that game than any other without raising the cost of the tickets.

@L1am21

5 ай бұрын

And he makes more by raising it just like most the big clubs do

@nilemthehomie8202

5 ай бұрын

@@L1am21 yeah and it's no drama....but don't hide from it lol

@Geokinkladze

5 ай бұрын

He answered the question. You might not understand the answer but don't replace your stupidity with his lack of focus.

"It just makes us out to be a thieving club..." yeah, sounds pretty accurate

In 2008 accrington stanley were going out of business. I am a burnley fan and our then manager owen coyle organised a friendly at the turf and ALL proceeds from the entire game, went in Accrington stanleys purse for them to survive being wound up. You can walk from Accrington to Burnley. I regularly do. They brought 400. So they actually wanted burnley fans to save them not to save themselves. I cant stand them. Blackburn "B" team

@TR4zest

5 ай бұрын

Interesting insight.

@williams4434

5 ай бұрын

I wonder if Burnley tickets increase when they get relegated, worst season in history you mugs

@jamesmcdonough7025

5 ай бұрын

@@williams4434 but we won the league on YOUR HOME GROUND. and we'll sing about it forever.

Ryan Reynolds did not retweet , he liked the tweet. Ryan & Rob never commented on it.

@matthewm3869

5 ай бұрын

that still exposes it to all of his followers, you're arguing semantics

@dave2940

5 ай бұрын

​@@matthewm3869well said. An inane comment by OP.

@trussknocker5431

5 ай бұрын

Not semantics if the charge is they retweeted it..

I’m sure this situation will be documented in Season 3 of “Welcome to Wrexham.” So I hope the producers reference this interview. Great stuff!

Just because Wrexham brings 2500 fans doesn´t mean they they will behave badly, That´s pure nonsense from Mr Holt. He got greedy and got court, pure and simple. Away fans should stay away from Accrington and then Mr Holt will make less money and maybe learn to treat away fans with some respect.

@matthewwilliams3789

5 ай бұрын

0 arrests. He's making it up to justify his profiteering. Policing bill was £12,000. Wrexham took 2600 fans which would be roughly £40,000. £28k profit. Other clubs who are charged £20 bring around 500 fans and bring in £10k. He's been caught out profiteering and now making excuses.

@martinjasper7650

5 ай бұрын

@@matthewwilliams3789 Plus what they spent in the stadium on food and drink

@matthewwilliams3789

5 ай бұрын

@@martinjasper7650 correct. He's made a fortune and been caught out.

@bowlingarry

5 ай бұрын

'its the Phoenix Club'

@kaspah2628

5 ай бұрын

Behaviour is a part of it, but 2500 fans requires more police than the 300-400 fans simon was saying is the usual away attendance, just because there was 0 arrests it doesn’t mean the cost of policing wasn’t higher. However, I am with simon on this one, the 2000 extra fans would of covered the costs, he didn’t need to raise the price whatsoever

Simon nailed him 😂

@freymar6866

5 ай бұрын

Simon got rinsed😂

@Trenchslammer588

5 ай бұрын

What were you watching?! 😂

@joshpowell4795

5 ай бұрын

Is this simons burner account?

@sonark289

5 ай бұрын

Get off Simons 🥜 ‘sfor one day

@DavidBenidorm

5 ай бұрын

Don’t think so

Andy: Revenue per fan Simon: Revenue per game

That was great fun. Fair play all round!

Andy started with every match is 20£ then it was categorised all season, but ONLY Wrexham has been increased.

@Matt-ek8ql

5 ай бұрын

Pretty sure he’s done it for Stockport and Notts aswell but same, but same rules apply all clubs take big followings

@scott5391

5 ай бұрын

27 quid is the price for Swindon fans. Go figure

@user-pl7pc7qh2q

5 ай бұрын

​@Matt-ek8ql No they didn't

@mushroom-mac617

5 ай бұрын

⁠please stop your religious propaganda.

Andy Hold screwed them for extra money and was caught out

If they were worried about trouble. Couldn’t Accrington of just limited the away support?

Man’s gasping for breath with every word 😂

Let's break this down... A guy who looks like the villain from Dune makes a greedy decision. Then, the owners of the club that were suffering the price hike decided to do the opposite. That is literally what happened. Unless the guy that struggles to breathe during a basic conversation can properly explain the financial reality, he shouldn't bother doing interviews 😂

@connorellis34

5 ай бұрын

It is worth noting that the Accy chairman puts in his own money to fund a club for the benefit of the community, I don’t agree with the price hike but he’s not some money hungry bloke.

@matthewm3869

5 ай бұрын

ah yes personal attacks on someone, always the best way to win an argument

@karatsurba4791

5 ай бұрын

SJ had to ask him the same Q thrice, yet either he didn't full understand, coz he's hurt by this episode or doesn't want to answer.

@roathripper

5 ай бұрын

these aren't the ticket prices you're looking for...

@evangelpaul1027

5 ай бұрын

Hahahaha ‘villain from Dune’ 😂

When he said "no no no no no" i was reminded of the vicar of Dibley dude😂

@CascadeCFC

5 ай бұрын

No no no yes. 😂

Why get in police for Wexham fans? we used to go to Bangor races every year and the so called Wexham front line were waiting by our coaches and half a dozen of us sent them packing a load of kids

Andy thinks like a little fish and Simon thinks like a big fish

@RedBrigades

5 ай бұрын

Get a room you two 😂

Simons face when he’s says I’m not paying it lol

If they'd addressed the concerns about the price hike weeks ago when it first came to light instead of ignoring it, then maybe Wrexham wouldn't have pulled the stunt they pulled. Andy's just whining because he's had his pants down on social media.

Followed Leeds for decades and through the lower leagues this happened to us so many times. Recall a trip to Burnden Park, Carlisle, in the 80s. They drove us past the home turnstiles with the prices above the entrances whereas our prices were more than double. Nice touch.

@petegonad

5 ай бұрын

Yeah used to happen to Forest when we were in league 1 too.

Acrington Stanley , who are they?

@jordanbyford2693

5 ай бұрын

Exactly 😂

@Upthebeaver

5 ай бұрын

😂😂

4:17 Andy shoots himself in the foot. "That's like saying if you bring a lot of fans we'll lower the ticket price" - yes but you did the opposite, with the same arguement. He said more people cost more money so we raise the price.... so what is his point/arguement?

Accrington Stanley? Who are they?!

@Toronto_James

5 ай бұрын

“Exactly!”

@davidmurphy8364

5 ай бұрын

@user-tn8uu2cu8g Does he support Accrington Stanley?

It's obvious, the guy is trying to cash in, he knows Wrexham fans will pay it so he has tried to fleece them and cash in, but he has been found out, thankfully. He knows and we know they will earn more from this one game then probably 10 games put together if you factor in spending money on food, drinks and services.

The bucket analogy he used is possibly the worst ever! 😂

This clown has been arguing with himself all week on twitter 😂 Neither Rob or Ryan have responded to anything. How does this constitute a feud?

😂The ending was priceless

I bet the Accrington fans, all 50 of hem, are looking forward to their next trip to wrexham now.

Also the chairman isn't saying how much they made from food and drink it's not fair on supporters

Unbelievable. How does a guy like Andy Holt accumulate 5 million quid in life with the maths skills of a 5 year old.

Simon and Jim out of their depth talking about League 2; the obvious question *not asked* to Andy Holt was ticket prices v Stockport County, Bradford City and Notts County (and probably one or two others) where the increase in the policing bill would have been similar.

Liverpool did something similar when Portuguese clubs were price gouging Liverpool fans. So they reduced the home leg.

@VR46314

5 ай бұрын

We are Liverpool tho , everyone knows we are prickly for these things

@matthewjamison

5 ай бұрын

@@VR46314 Indeed. Those Shankly socialist values

".... abuuucket for a quid" 😂😂😂😂😂

@whoknew2273

5 ай бұрын

Close that bloody gate 🤣

@coda-wear

5 ай бұрын

The most northern thing ever said 😂

Damn shame Andy had to contend with a dude who ACTUALLY knows how running a football team works!! Honestly, I'd have had more respect for him if he'd just admitted "Yeah, there's more away fans coming, they'll come regardless, so I'm gonna take the opp for make some extra cash. Stash it in my 'rainy day fund'". Something like that. Not this chickenshit about "Police costs".

Conclusion from the calculations below: Accrington Stanley made an extra £69,785 as a result of the Wrexham game (inclusive of increased prices and deducting out the police costs). @9:15 Police & Stewards Bill - "About £12,000" as Andy Confirmed. Average Attendance at Wham Stadium before the Wrexham match: 2,437 Total Attendance at the Wrexham/Accrington Game: 5,261 (2,587 Wrexham & 2,674 Accrington) Average Game: £48,740 (2,437 attendees paying full price tickets at £20) with no extra police costs = £48,740 Revenue (adjusted for police costs) Wrexham Game: £131,525 (5,261 attendees paying full price tickets at £25) with £13,000 (rounded up) police costs = £118,525 (adjusted for police costs) Additional In-Pocket Ticket Revenue: £82,785 Additional In-Pocket Ticket Revenue (adjusted for increased police costs): £69,785 Additional In-Pocket Ticket Revenue Broken Down by Source (not adjusted for police costs): 237 Increased Accrington ticket sales over average (2674-2437) at £25 = £5,925 2437 Average Accrington fans paying an extra £5 = £12,185 2587 Wrexham fans paying £25 = £64,675

@BillyBob-dz9rg

5 ай бұрын

What's your occupation? I wonder

Its not just extra ticket sales its the extra revenue that those fans spend in the ground, say they spent an average of £5 each in the ground then they made a huge fortune of the away fans

@jamesmain_email6969

5 ай бұрын

If it’s cost a extra £5 per head for policing they lose money. Spending £5 isn’t £5 profit it’s £5 turnover, staffing product etc needs to come out of that. Unceasing ticket pricing is £5 extra to cover policing . Sounds like Wrexham charge £24 a game anyway

@user-pl7pc7qh2q

5 ай бұрын

We were going to boycott food and drink but spent an extra £12

The accrington Stanley owner sounds like a clown his getting extra money because while there are there they will spend money while there at the ground and his saying no thanks makes perfect business sense 😂😂

Kept cutting the bloke off towards the end, when he was about to say something interesting.

At what part did they "clash"?

Regardless if this case I’m sick of Simon Jordan being the oracle of owning a football club. He did it for ten years about 15 years ago and it went in administration.

@tonyluke7462

5 ай бұрын

Exactly, only contribution to the game was to bankrupt his boyhood club but treated like yoda.

I agree with Accrington. These ticket costs aren't just profit but they pay bills which takes from transfer and wage budgets. If he relaxes prices when the price of policing goes up then the balance is off

Nowt wrong with charging more for “bigger” games. All clubs do it.

To be fair, I’ve seen Wrexham fans and Swansea fans come to my local club and they are the worst behaved, so I’m not surprised by what Andy Holt is saying!

SJ is spot on as always 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

100% agree with Wrexham

It’s £24 in 2 stands but we have a lower price in the other stand which is £22

That chairman sounds so so tight.

Andy Holt eats corn the long way !

Called him out and he couldn’t answer it 🤣

I’m an Accrington born lad but i actually agree with Simon on this.

Get more owners on the show... The spats are entertaining

You should get AFC Wimbledon's owners on sometime. All 4,400 of us.

every club in the champ and league 1 regularly did that to us - Sunderland

@matthewsmith8727

5 ай бұрын

Same with us at Leeds we’ve payed almost £50 for away days for a few years now it’s all down to greed simple as

To be fair this isnt his club specifically. Most if not all do this to Wrexham and a few of the bigger clubs in the conference.

Price gauging fans just because their away crowd dwarfs your home crowd is a snide move, however you try to spin it.

Tied up like a pretzel 😂

Loved this

Jim White just cannot hide his contempt for Wrexham. Holt, no matter what you think of his pricing decision, has shown himself to be classless with his conduct and thirst for courting social media. I guess any publicity is good publicity 🤷🏻

So they want to stop supporters attending games

Thought I’d not dislike someone as much as Simon Jordan, step forward Andy Holt 👏

Only Wrexham classed as a Category A game and not at the start of the season. Sought to rip off Wrexham fans and he's got caught out by it.

Who r they???

"i can charge what i want" "they started it" how childish. thank god hes going.

This police costs, cobblers, is just a smokescreen. The bloke has seen an opportunity to trouser a few extra quid from a guaranteed full away end and chapeau to him for that. It’s the peeing in our pockets and telling us it’s raining, that most object to here.

I pay £15 to watch a good championship team. How are AS charging £20???

Subtitles please 🤣

He tried to fleece Wrexham supporters and got called out. End of story

Agree with Simon Jordan 100%

Whatever your thoughts on this, there's no way the Accrington owner can be as financially illiterate as he's making out.

Accrington have Phoenix Nights Brian Potter as Chairman

He's seen a chance to make money and got called out for it

Don’t tell him that Bradford will charge em £50 a ticket…..Suck it up!

2 things. Raising ticket prices might actually get less fans to come, and impact revenue across the board. It's not after all a top of the table clash. If he retains the right to raise prices on a whim, surely Wrexham have the right to lower them at a whim?

@Geokinkladze

5 ай бұрын

He doesn't have an issue with their price it's the timing of the announcement.

Jim's brain switches off when the numbers are discussed. This Andy Hold is at it. Jim runs with the fox and hunts with the hounds. He always says he's for the fans, but when an owner comes on and says he'll charge whatever he wants and if the fans can like it or lump it he sucks up to him! Pathetic.

Let’s call it what it is. GREED.

I cant be the only one who scrolls the most recent videos and looks for Simon Jordans latest video with top views.

Accrington Stanley…..who are they??

You lost me at bookit

Holt is clearly not very clever. Bucket analogy was funny.

He can't be in a "feud" with Ryan Reynolds when Ryan Reynolds doesn't even know who the hell he is

@olivernewton8584

5 ай бұрын

That's just childish mate

He sounds shady as hell.

Sounds like Peter fury

SO IM ASSUMING STOCKPORT, NOTTS, BRADFORD WIKL BE CHARGED 25 QUID??????

He's being greedy. Simple. He thinks he's being clever.

Ryan Reynolds? Becareful he doesn't bring out his alter ego Deadpool

@lfcspectre4335

5 ай бұрын

Or Green Lantern

Speaking a lot of sense

No idea who Andy Holt is but I love his accent 🤣

@royalhero4608

5 ай бұрын

Age of 5 he was pushing his own barrow. Age of 10 he was pushing 5 barrows and paying his mother a respectable wage to push one herself. The man is a legend and if he wants to up the price the rabble better damn well pay

@Lost.soul24

5 ай бұрын

@@royalhero4608😂🙌🏼

Good on Accrington probably have a third of Wrexham budget they need to make money were possible to survive if Wrexham fans don't like it don't go

Accrington are right, it's called the drip down effect, rich club come to town , hollywood boys, loads of money, Share the money round

It’s well worth £25 to go to Accrington away it’s a great away day

Should just boycott grounds that put their prices up, will soon stop happening.

Just curious, does Andy call all supporters from other clubs trouble makers??

I don’t normally agree with Simon but he’s spot on here

@footballsoccerx2021

5 ай бұрын

I nearly always agree with him

Accrington need revenue to survive, Wrexham need to get promoted before they get the revenue they want, that's the difference.