I need your input! What is your honest opinion? Are these worth the money? Would you buy one?

@moose6536

3 жыл бұрын

I think it is worth it because there is more fluid so when the warm fluid mixes with the cool fluid since there is more cooler fluid then it should help keep the transmission somewhat cooler. There is a drain plug too which can come in handy.

@TruckMaster

3 жыл бұрын

Very good point

@chasetoedter9185

3 жыл бұрын

I replaced both my Trans pan and oil pan. I would say highly recommend. More oil= more lubricant, more trans fluid= cooler trans temp. Plus I upgraded my trans cooler. Keep it up Josh, you've helped me gain knowledge and confidence in every upgrade I've done. I just got doing a 64mm RDS turbo and HSP bundle kit. Your the reason I have the know how to do everything with my LBZ!!! 🤙👊

@houseslosttribe1351

3 жыл бұрын

Yes Absolutely

@meltingpot5825

3 жыл бұрын

I went with the deep allison pan.

I’m all in favor of deep transmission pans but there are some things to keep in mind Your transmission comes up to temperature by processing the fluid through. More fluid simply means it’ll take longer to come up to temperature and/or change temperature. Once all the fluid has processed through however it should be about the same temperature. The upside comes from when something goes wrong. Because you have more fluid to use, problems that would cause overheating are cushioned and give you more time to notice and more time to stop and check. What would cause the temperatures to be lower is dissipating heat. This is caused by those fins you see on the outside increasing surface area and allowing it to get rid of that heat outside of the pan. The point is- The problems that cause overheating are still going to be there. If you’re having overheating problems in your transmission this will not fix it. Those who notice lower temperatures often or once you drive shorter distances therefore their transmission doesn’t have the time to come up to temperature. You should also wear the extra cost associated with owning a deep transmission pan. The best thing you can do with an Allison is regular fluid and filter changes. If having this pan makes you want to stretch out those fluid changes you’re going to cause more harm than good.

I have a 2017 L5P 3500 with a deep PPE trans pan and yes it helps a lot when towing.I also have taken out the inline thermostat.So yes worth the money!

Got the PPE deep pan, deep internal filter, and deep external filter on my 08 LMM. And yes, I think it is worth it. I plan on buying the PPE oil pan and oil filter next.

installed it on my 05 and I noticed an average of 15-20 degree drop in temperatures well worth it!!! High temps Lowers the life of your vehicle!

Nice one ! This Cummins looks really clean 👌🏻

I have one on my lly and didn't really notice a difference other than it taking longer to heat up and longer to cool down. If you really want to keep your trans cool then buy a solid aluminum cold case radiator.

You and Mitchell could be brothers, truly. You're great together.

I like the idea of an aftermarket pan that holds more fluid and has a better cooling fin design. I see the advantage and I have purchased the PPE oil pan already for my LLY due to its poor stock design, and plan on buying a larger aftermarket trans pan also. DIYers....I removed my grill and sprayed my radiator housing area and transmission cooler with cleaner and rinsed it off with hot water.....boy, what a difference it makes in the running temperatures....just something that's easy to do with really good benefits. BTW... Thanks Josh for another great video Bro....I give you 👍👍!!!

Absolutely should. More transmission fluid is always a good thing.

That with the bigger cooler is well worth it lower temps towing for sure. And 100/110deg maybe ! Without pulling the trlr I also got the oil pan so all the oil is removed

I changed my trucks pan mainly to get rid of the worry of the cheap stock pans rotting apart.. oem pans always end up rusting and getting holes. So I changed to a sturdy aftermarket one and figured the extra fluid couldn't hurt haha

That’s was musical with the wrenches

I see Earl's brother in law showed up....😂🤣😂🤣🤣🤣😂

Hey Josh, you need run a water line from your outside wood furnace to your garage,working in the cold 🥶 is no fun. You will love your garage 😍

Yes totally worth it. I have the PPE deep pans on both my engine and transmission and they have been great.

@TruckMaster

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the input 👍

@R3AP79

3 жыл бұрын

@@TruckMaster No prob man. If you do the deep oil pan in conjunction with the new high capacity PPE oil filters it raises our oil capacity to a full 12 quarts/ 3 gallons. The deep transmission pan on the Allison adds an additional 4 quarts capacity. Personally I love running both and have had zero problems from either.

I don't know watching Mr. Banks video on rear diff covers I'm very skeptical on any mod these days without seeing the tec data to back it up. Good video though

@2015_Rubicnn

2 жыл бұрын

There's a difference between a rear gear cover with a ring gear slinging or beating oil vs a transmission or engine oil pan that just draw the oil or fluid out via a pump.

@MrTundra2008

2 жыл бұрын

@@2015_Rubicnn lol I know but it changes stuff around and I want to see the data. I do agree a bigger change to a diff that's not pumping fluid

@2015_Rubicnn

Жыл бұрын

@@MrTundra2008 Changes stuff around? It adds more fluid capacity, it's cast aluminum and much more rigid compared to the stamped steel pan. It's a plus all the way around.

@truckmaster, I want a duramax but as of now I got a 2009 silverado 2500hd ltz crew cab 6.0. Interesting thing about the truck is when you go to pop the hood it has to compartments for batteries but has the gasser 6.0 in it.

I did 4 PPE pans/covers on my lml during my winter project. Manifolds and tie rods will prolly come this summer. I wont know the temp benefits until the roads here in Michigan are cleaned off, LML is a garage queen in the winter, let the old lb7 take the winter abuse. They are all quality products though and fit great.

Awesome vids I love the content. Are you a diesal mechanic full time?

Love the vids man was having a bad evening and watched the video and learned some stuff and had a good laugh👍👍👍

@TruckMaster

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@chadrizla496

3 жыл бұрын

Same here!!

scotty kilmer would probably tell you not to do this and the oem knew what they were doing when designing the vehicle and not to mess with their work.

@TruckMaster

3 жыл бұрын

I would never take him seriously when it comes to these trucks but he definitely has some great info

@shemwhitehead9517

3 жыл бұрын

My argument against OE is the engineers have to design to a price point. Though with many of today's trucks being nearly $100k and some even over $100k one could say there price point has gone out the window. 🤣😂😵

Just picked up your channel today and watched a few videos. In the last week I started looking for 2500 chevys. I can’t believe what they are asking for the diesels, in sane! I liked your tip on your preference for the 06 Duramax. What do you think of the 6.0L gas engine?

That will fit your Cummins well.

Definitely a great oil pan. And love the Shirt.

@TruckMaster

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

Install a oil catch can video

For me, how I see it, $320 mod on a $40k+ truck is worth the over longevity of the vehicle. That old saying, you take care of your vehicle and it'll take care of you, it's absolutely true! Another great video! 🇺🇸👍

@GrandPrix46

3 жыл бұрын

That depends how the truck is being used. For offroad stuff, I'd rather not have the aluminum pan that will crack vs the steel one that will dent.

I have both oil and trans pans from ppe, of course from your recommendation on a previous video. Paid 299 for the trans pan and 279 oil pan. Gasket and filter included. I can say with the power im making it does make a huge difference being able to get more fluid on both. Yes it does look cool and all that but it makes sense to have the extra fluid. But watch with having a lift on your truck, i had to remove my front crossmember to do the oil pan. Trans went easy. Great addition to any truck. Sorry for the long comment. Oh and amazon is where i got mine, seller was a diesel seller ill have to check who. Little cheaper. Lol

@TruckMaster

3 жыл бұрын

Solid info thanks as always 👍

GM transmissions are Known for running too hot , without addition of larger tires or under Load . Some GM trans technically reach fail temp just cruising along Empty . Yes I would say that the Larger Capacity should help . Sadly mine is a 6.5td not duramax w allison +PPE cover. My truck has been sting for a year , the fuel pump fail which locked up shift solenoids & snapped the sun gear . Yes it's an intentional design defect . The Pumps internal winding can't handle half the current draws . There is a Fix for this by separating the systems power sources & wish I knew this in advance . I wish I had the $ to do a Cummins swap ; as I pull my 5th wheel w my dually & got stuck in WV instead of being in SW RN 😢

When is the rematch between the dodge and LBZ happening? Remember last time the up pipe blew out.

You gotta get heat in your shop bro!

For sure worth it, It REDUCES HEATin 2 ways 1. As another user commented the more transmission fluid there is the longer it takes to heat up and 2. The material these pans are made of is often a better conductor of heat than stock not only because of materials used but also even if the oem version has similar material it’s smaller which means less material to soak up heat from the fluid (important to note overcooling in the winter does exist and can be a problem use a fluid with good cold flow properties that won’t turn super thick in the winter redline fluids and amsoil fluids are good stuff for this I hear, also make sure if you get an external trans cooler you still keep the original internal oem cooler so that the engine helps to heat up the fluid faster, and it doesn’t hurt to consider a thermostat made for trans oil.) oh and btw although stacked plate coolers are known to be great for cooling capability and having a lower pressure drop than tube and fin style coolers they also can impede flow more than tube and fin and can be ridiculously expensive, consider a tube and fin that has copper tubes aka copper core and aluminum fins they actually stand up pretty well to an all aluminum stacked plate cooler and are cheaper without potentially restricting oil flow, the only downside is the slightly higher pressure drop. it also as stated in this video strengthens the transmission and acts as a brace almost like how sheathing braces the framing on a house. Additionally the extra fluid capacity means your fluid will last longer before needing changed and this is especially true with good fluids like redline or amsoil or even royal purple etc.

Awesome video!!!

@TruckMaster

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Can you make a video on PPE oil pan upgrade on LLY? please

The PPE Deep Pans and Deep Filters in theory seem to be a good idea especially on Motorhomes and Medium Duty Vehicles with reasonable ground clearance that see severe duty. Additional oil and good filtration is always a good idea. My concern is that on Light Duty Vehicles - particularly GM 2500 / 3500 Series that are stock height used off-road, the Deep Pans and larger Filters sit in a rather vulnerable position. I have a 2500HD that is used off road and twice I’ve had to flatten the bottom of the stock pan and replace the internal filter due to the pan came in contact with some rocky terrain. As you can see I'm not crazy about lift kits and I can only imagine the issues one may have with the PPE components that hang this low. Another thing - I really surprised that PPE didn’t decide to manufacture and distribute a shallow version of the deep PPE Allison Spin-On Filter - considering there are zillions of Silverados out there that see severe duty that aren't lifted this would be a no-brainer. Also, lately there are a LOT of great reviews on the Mobil 1 Delvac ATF which meets TES-295 specifications, is recommended by Allison and is extremely cost effective compared to other fluids that people use.

Nice job you have good content

@TruckMaster

3 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate it

Question, if I need to rebuild the turbo, would doing a drop in internal assembly while rebuilding it be worth it vs just rebuilding the turbo and keeping it stock? Drop in would be from KC turbos

I bought the OEM deep pan kit from DHD.. TFT definitely lower almost impossible to get over 150

I’ve noticed my transmission temp stay cooler only when on the highway

I definitely seen that same type of oil pans along time. By power bank!!

Hey jash I have a quick question I’m new on the diesel trucks 🤣🤣 but thanks to you tube and your videos I'm becoming a professional 🤣 so what you recommend me I have a 3500hd gmc 6.6 duramax and currently it has ranch shacks but I feel like it bounces a lot and I have a little baby and I would like every time I take him with me the ride for him be softer and more comfortable. I heard that the gmc denali 1500 Have magnetic shock what do you think which brand you think would be good for my truck??

Hi Josh I put trans and oil ppe pans on my duramax lower temps yes they also have filters for both much bigger talk about them?

8:25 Beautiful.. Can we get an encore? 🤣

@TruckMaster

3 жыл бұрын

👍👍

Going to get one of these, my trans was built by dimitri milliard, sometimes it got stuck in 4th gear and wouldnt work till the next day any ideas? Not a big problem as it’s only happened 3 times and now I need a new motor but still. Any ideas would be great thanks

Can I put one on a motorhome because I don’t have a lot of clearance under there from the ground will it be too low if I put it on there

I installed a PPE trans pan and oil pan on my LLY. Yes they are worth it and i luv the look. More fluid equsls lower temps and longer life. I will not run a PPE oil filter. Heard tons of complaints about their faulty seals. After running a CAT oil filter. I am going back to AC Delco. No better

@danielellis2271

3 жыл бұрын

Hey man....about the issue with the PPE filter faulty seal...can you send me a link on that. I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks

@2015_Rubicnn

5 ай бұрын

I've had no issues with the PPE transmission filter or oil filter.

I’ve got tha mag hi tech one is cooler looking to me and def worth it I got it on my built trans

hey I bought a ppe oil pan for my lly and i have a lift kit so the cross member does not unbolt like stock what would be the easiest way to install this oil pan

I wonder what gale banks would do to that pan the tests he dose to see if it's really worth it

What is the best transmission oil change intervals?

Yea, if I am not mistaken the PPE carries an extra (4) quarts of tranny fluid. Any capacity enlargement(if that's a word) means more fluid to carry heat away---the biggest killer of autos. I've used Royal Purple since it became a company and swear by it---not at it !! I don't know though much about the Allison's and the newer stuff but my '67-'72's love it from engine all the way back. Engine---trany(auto or stick)--- 205 t-case---HO 72 Eaton rear.

Swapping a transmission pan because it looks cool, unless your truck is lifted to the moon, doesn't make much sense to me. Only the driver would know he/she would know they have a sexy transmission pan under there.

@GrandPrix46

3 жыл бұрын

I had a 2011 Suburban I did a B&M pan on, solely because the factory pan didn't have a drain plug. Unacceptable, being able to easily change fluids is a necessity for me.

What I’ve learned on Allison transmissions is either constant maintenance or none at all. If you have neglected your routine maintenance keep it that way. Sounds bad but it seems to be true most of the time.

@TruckMaster

3 жыл бұрын

Good point

@andrewnewton1661

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah a lot of people don’t even know to change transmission fluid I’ve heard countless times “don’t change it unless there’s a problem” but people don’t realize what’s actually going on down there and why when they have problems and go to change it it completely stops working

What is the difference between the pan and valve body by revmax ?

Hey I am looking at a 2 gen is it worth it to buy one?

Why didn’t you tell us the before and after temp’s on the fluid?

How many quarts of trans oil did you’ll use in total???

How much lower did it drop trans temp on the lb7

Love ur videos. Plus I want to meet u man. I be fun to hang out with. I live in Kalamazoo Michigan. Was that his new ride?

@TruckMaster

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! That’s actually a truck he bought years ago.

Nice camper dude

Once my warranty is gone. I will add some good stuff. 🙂

@TruckMaster

3 жыл бұрын

👍

So no change of fluid in torque converter?

Yes.

I'm wondering if the PPE trans lines are worth installing. I bought a bigger trans cooler, now debating if I should buy the lines. Trans gets alittle warm with the plow on. 05 lly

@TruckMaster

3 жыл бұрын

Yes they are definitely worth the money

on the real though, that camper is sick

@TruckMaster

3 жыл бұрын

👍

Can you do differential cover video? I saw the banks video and I'd like to see other views on them.

@TruckMaster

3 жыл бұрын

That’s really a great idea

@burnerloco4138

3 жыл бұрын

That Banks video was really informative, I never realized that the shape of the cover really effects the way that the lube is displaced inside of the housing.

@jessetoretta1768

3 жыл бұрын

@@burnerloco4138 they were really pushing there product in it. If I remember correctly didn't they test like one aftermarket cover compared to theirs?

I installed the PPE trans pan on my 2006 lbz duramax. My question is…. Does the dip stick need to be changed to get a proper reading on fluid level? I have put 11.5 quarts in so far, ran to operating temp, and am showing right between cold/hot marking. Thanks!

@ronfrance4041

3 жыл бұрын

The stock dip stick is all you need. If you got a longer dipstick(which I doubt they make) then there would be no point of this deep. The pan is for gaining fluid

I also went with PPE on my lly duramax. I think it's the best choice because it has a built in filter lock and includes a new deep filter. I agree that my transmission takes longer to come up to temperature and runs cooler. I also used castrol transynd fluid which is expensive but you will save the money back because of the drastically longer service life.

Out of curiosity have you guys thought of doing a stroker 5.9 (6.1) Cummins build? More compression and faster spool on the turbo

@95F350

3 жыл бұрын

I definitely have, but I want to go 6.7 Cummins.

@dtoshredneck

3 жыл бұрын

@@95F350 8.3 cummins? Its only slighty bigger..... probably costs less on the account its a small cummins in the big truck world.

$300.00 bucks is better spent on PPE's Trans cooler. I got a 31 degree reduction in trans temp in 100 degree weather pulling 9k LBS of travel trailer. Skip the pan and get the cooler, money well spent!

@TruckMaster

3 жыл бұрын

Great input

Great vid once again Josh👍🏼🇺🇸

@TruckMaster

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Are the up-pipes available in the same color as your manifolds on big Red?

@TruckMaster

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately not but that would be cool

do they have that oil pan fore 1/2 ton chevy

I’m in Michigan and getting ready to buy my first diesel truck if the price was right would you come along and check the truck out with me so I don’t over look anything?

What type of torque wrench do you guys use for the Internals, it looks automated

@TruckMaster

3 жыл бұрын

Snap on 3/8 inch lbs

Didnt show in video but did you adjust your 1-2 and 3-4 bands?

@95F350

3 жыл бұрын

I did off camera. 2nd gear band and reverse band. 2nd gear band can be done pan on but reverse band needs pan off.

I have a question if I have a PPE motor deep oil pan and I want to run the PPE high efficiency oil filter do I still run 11 quarts or do I have to add another quart too make it 12 quarts?

@saltysteel3996

3 жыл бұрын

PPE pan adds an extra quart. The PPE large oil filter adds another quart. So using both would require 12 quarts.

@mattprovost3881

3 жыл бұрын

@@saltysteel3996 ok thanks 👍 will be making the upgrade soon

Won't these pans cause trouble when it comes to excessive high speed turns? The oem design is extensively tested and a masterclass in engineering no?

Wouldn't a bigger trans cooler be better on keeping your transmission cool ??? Did you really say that the oil pan makes your transmission stronger and gives it more rigidity ???

@TruckMaster

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! Most definitely this will strengthen your transmission housing

@CountryMileGarage

3 жыл бұрын

@@TruckMaster I find that extremely hard to believe that never seen a transmission break because of a "weak" oil pan 🤣🤣🤣

I would love to donate my LLY engine to the channel!!!

You know that wasn't a stock transmission paint KZread off the truck right because I got one of those on my diesel it looks just like that and that's an aftermarket and it holds more transmission fluid

@95F350

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Thats the Deraile Pan. I was aware.

That’s the jankiest filter I’ve every seen. Looks like a slice of flattened bread!

I thought 11/2 + 41/2=6 not 51/2 .

They just hold more fluid, if you’re looking for better cooling I’d go for a bigger trans cooler. Those pans aren’t worth the money

@GrandPrix46

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, I did a factory Allison deep pan in mine, along with a filter lock, deep filter, and Mobil Delvac 1 ATF, altogether I think I spent less than just the cost of that fancy pan alone.

I got mine for 80 bucks on eBay

Nothing will save the transmissions in those dodges.

Unless you have additional cooling of fluid there will be little if any gain. Just larger volume getting hotter and taking longer to cool, UNLESS larger cooler installed.

Two words about PPE trans cooler. It does look like a quality cooler but - BUT!!! - why the fuck you included only six bolts instead of eight?!? It may not be a too big of a deal except that 1. I had to go to the hardware store in the middle of installation. Fortunately, I have three more vehicles, all Toyotas, so I had options others may not have. 2. If you can't count to 8, how can you be trusted with making ANYTHING? 3. If you cut corners by skipping 2 bolts, what other corners have you cut? And finally, PPE is the second most expensive cooler on the market. Not sure it was worth it - those 5 times cheaper may not be any worse...

If it ain't Bank's no

I'm a manufacturer. I can send it directly. I can give it to you at a cheap price

@maximilian_61

3 ай бұрын

How to contact you?

Poor guy, can't afford quality transmission fluid and expect good results from cheap fluid. You get what you pay!

@95F350

3 жыл бұрын

Cheap fluid?!😄

Hey I need help getting my youtube channel started and going and I need help getting to where i can sale merchandice and give back to viewers and make them feel like there apart of my channel

@TruckMaster

2 жыл бұрын

It’s hard work but keep at it! It took me years to get going

What what

15 min video that explained nothing