Duke the only one talking sense here, date when you got money

I think there’s a level of finically stable everyone needs to be before seriously dating. You don’t have to be at your in goal or six figures to date but if you are deeply struggling dating is more of a liability then an asset. I think it’s the same thing when woman are emotionally damaged.If you put yourself in a solid place emotionally financially and physically + letting yourself get a little old and more mature the dating experience will be a completely elevated experience. There’s a time to build yourself and there time to build with like Jalon said.

@Snicklez89

2 жыл бұрын

🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

I agree with duke, especially at y'alls age ain't no 30 year old woman gone wanna go on a chili's date lmao

Most men can’t even concentrate if they aren’t financially stable. So, their relationship suffers because they are trying to purse the bag and be financially independent so they can provide.

@kwasi67

2 жыл бұрын

Deep

@KillaCam2534

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely how I was in my last relationship two years ago.

@ladyshenna967

Жыл бұрын

Very true fact. My husband literally said those words. He can't concentrate.

As a man it’s best to wait until you’re financially stable. Because courting women costs on our end.

@mak28busted

2 жыл бұрын

True

@danarenee5916

2 жыл бұрын

I dated a few men in this gen who told me don’t believe in courting. Sad

I love duke ! He was raised really well

Who else's shoulders start moving once the intro beat comes in??? Lol ....continues watching

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

2 жыл бұрын

🥃🥃🥃

@kaylad1669

2 жыл бұрын

Literally just did 😂😂😂🤣

Omg. I cant believe yall said what yall said at the 12 min mark! lol it is not the man's role nor the woman's role to jumpstart each others lives. Because of a woman's nurturing nature, there's a thin line between pouring into a man and raising a man. In the topic of serious dating, I feel both individuals need to be able to at least take care of themselves financially or the relationship will become codependent.

@missa9313

2 жыл бұрын

Yessss!! 🎯🎯

@Goldengirl88

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, I don’t want a man that NEEDS to be built up

@CCC9437

2 жыл бұрын

They want a mom

Really needed this episode because I relate to it a lot. Almost two years ago I started dating this woman and instantly I knew she was the one for me. She had everything that I was looking for: good heart, smart, career driven and most importantly loving & caring. But the downfall to that was that I was in a rough position financially at the time. I just lost my job earlier that March so that entire year it was hard for me to land a good job. So I had to settle for something less just to keep money in my pockets (convenience store) in September and ended up meeting here two months later. Not being able to provide for her like I wanted to made me very insecure and in the end I would take out my frustration on her. Really taught me a lesson to never date if I’m not financially stable. Fast forward now, I’m doing pretty good financially now and better myself mentally, emotionally and spiritually but still single. Crazy how life works because she is definitely “the one that got away”. Good episode fellas 💯👊🏾

@danarenee5916

2 жыл бұрын

Are you able to go find her again?

@KillaCam2534

2 жыл бұрын

@@danarenee5916 nah, I’ve pretty much let that go. Took a while but I’m in a better place. Hope she is as well.

@fionaodak2583

Жыл бұрын

@@KillaCam2534 I know this is old but allow me to ask.Do you feel men only fall in love once in their lifetime?Like you were in love with her but after her,you may move on and love another person but not be IN LOVE with them?

@KillaCam2534

Жыл бұрын

@@fionaodak2583 I’ll say we do find love again it just takes time. But it’s so many men that do move on, find someone but haven’t not properly healed. That prevents them from loving their new girl the right way…

@mypurposemarriage6217

Жыл бұрын

Great awareness king

Yes, if you're not financially stable, don't date! Continue to build yourself and become financially stable, then date! ♥️

50 k is a different tax bracket from 150 k

I think it’s different when you’re in college because you’re young and having fun, but when you’re 25+ I think your finances should be a priority so that you can really enjoy yourself.

Duke your mental understanding of women is intriguing ❤️

@danarenee5916

2 жыл бұрын

Right? He must have grown up with a good male figure. All of them actually

If you cant afford to take care of yourself, then It'll be Impossible to take care of your Partner. I encourage all Men to get their Money up FIRST before getting involved in any commitments.

Loved the episode! I don’t think men or women should be dating if theyre broke.

Omar so funny! “She works at the .99 cent store, I can change her life” 🤣

Nah the man dem came looking hella cleannn on this one 🔥

Duke on point with his mind set

Y’all are a breath of fresh air. Lord.

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

2 жыл бұрын

🥃🥃🥃

I lowkey can’t believe this is even a question lol. I feel like the answer is super obvious, also obsessed with the intro song 💜 Edit: i honestly don’t think ANYONE(no matter the gender) should be doing ANYTHING while broke. Honestly, any sort of unstable whether that’s financially, emotionally, spiritually, mentally. If you’re not STABLE or aligned in any of those areas i think dating should be the last thing on your mind

@deionjohnson8683

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly this is a no brainer lol they could've touched on a better topic we all already knew the answer

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

2 жыл бұрын

Hope you caught the full episode!!

@Snicklez89

2 жыл бұрын

@@NiceAndNeatThePodcast i did and i liked the discussion(per usual tho lol) but i still don’t think ppl should do anything recreational when they have too many things they need get in order with themselves and are not aligned or doing the work to get in alignment with themselves

@leemiller2243

2 жыл бұрын

if it were only that simple stability and broke has different meanings to different ppl

@Snicklez89

2 жыл бұрын

@@leemiller2243 for extreme situations no it’s not always simple but in general it’s pretty simple to get your life together. You just have to be willing to do it. And while i agree ppl do see being broke in different ways, we ALL KNOW what being financially, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually unstable means and we absolutely all know when we should and should not be doing things. Especially things that don’t benefit us and we know it doesn’t

Great topic & video. Dating broke tends to lead to struggle relationships & neither party deserves that. No matter how much hard work it takes for the come up to come about, it takes money to hold a family down. And most men want a 'Submissive' woman, but in order for a woman to be and do that, the man has to be a 100% provider. And it's unfortunate for a lot of women that we are supposed to be with a man based on potential, but a dude NEVER EVER EVER dates a woman based on potential. Never. So if you don't have your ish ALL the way together, don't waste a young lady's time. Leave her, them be so they can develop the understanding, skills, & knowledge they need to be the best they can be for a guy who's ready to be and do what needs to be done for her.

Great convo! You all should allow people to call in or email you all stories and/or questions #JustAnIdea

I loved this topic. I think we need to define “financially stable” because that can be different depending on the man and women’s personal life/financial goals.

Firstly I love the maturity of this conversation from all these kings. I absolutely respect Dukes maturity and understanding. May I add...A man saying if I am successful I'll never know is she with me because of my money and what I can provide for her is similar to a lady saying is he with me because of my beauty and let me put on weight so I can test if he loves me for my beauty and body. Of course he is with me because of my beauty but obviously that's not the only reason. Similarly a man that provides is financially stable is one of the factors that is important to quality women but not the only factor.

Wonderful discussion. I wished y’all would’ve touched on what may happen when a woman stays with a man that is currently broke and eventually elevates. Things can either get better between them or much worse due to new circumstances. Especially when women say men leave for the women they really want once they can afford them.I’d like to hear a man’s perspective on that

@danarenee5916

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I wanna know too

@kwameopoku3576

2 жыл бұрын

Rubbish

@kwameopoku3576

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of bitches self sabotage

@idk9707

2 жыл бұрын

kwame opoku 😒boy hush 🤐

According to one of the great poet, Davido, “when money dey(there’s money), the love is sweeter.”

I tell guys all the time.. how are you dating or looking for a relationship if you’re broke? The priorities is all the way backwards with a lot of guys in this generation. This isn’t high school puppy love anymore.

O, my 16 year old brother watches this podcast. He saw me watching it and now he’s now a big fan. Just fyi.

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

2 жыл бұрын

Dope!!

I was taught, when it comes to joint finances: no matter who makes the most you both take 50% of your income and place it in one account/pot (equaling 100%) . . and then discuss/ determine what comes out of said account. Whether that be mortgage, bills, etc. However revisit the account/ agreement quarterly or yearly to gauge that you all are still on the page.

@Lawrence_Femi_Ikenna_Odedina

2 жыл бұрын

That is great advice!!!

The way you guys are speaking on my current situation is crazy. Really helping me out a lot. Appreciate ya'll.

This conversation is SO refreshing...

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

2 жыл бұрын

🥃🥃🥃

Love it fellas. Been tapped in for months now. Plan to ride y’all wave for the long Haul. Much love ✊🏾❤️

Your rainy day fund should NEVER be using a credit card!

Great topic, great discussion! I genuinely enjoyed this one. Yall are hilarious lol

Money isn't everything for me. I have dated guys with money and guys who didn't have money. If we have a good chemistry and he is working towards a goal then I'm not gonna be ashamed of what he does. If the pandemic didn't teach you anything appreciate your job because some people wasn't able to work when things shut down. I don't have to be wined and dined like that, I value quality time. Just my opinion 🤷🏾‍♀️.

@sharonjohns1686

Жыл бұрын

Pickmeisha pls go and sleep.

@sharonjohns1686

Жыл бұрын

How is dating broke men going for you?

@CherrelleColeman

Жыл бұрын

@@sharonjohns1686 have a blessed day

Had to like the video before watching, this is going to be a good one!!!

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

2 жыл бұрын

It is!!!

You can do it BUT should you is the question !!!!

I’m glad I came across the channel. I enjoyed the topic.

I downloaded this song because of yall! Love it! I’m excited for this topic already!

Finally getting caught up on the best podcast in the world. 💙 loved this episode!

I can’t miss these episodes ever. Love these guys 🧡

I absolutely love this podcast! It’s like I’m a fly on the wall and getting the true perspective of good, young men. Theme song is definitely a bop! I agree with all of you, it’s depends on where you are in your life. If you’re still “young” you can be and should be selfish and focus on yourself and getting ahead to where you want to be. But if you’re getting up there in age, you might have to build that credit King and keep your lady and figure it out as you go 🥃🥃🥃

H3LL TO THA NAAAAAAHHHHH! "If you BROKE SIT DOWN!!"🎶🎵🎶

Intro full of great energy I fw y’all ✊🏾

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

2 жыл бұрын

EVERY TIME!!!

Y'all intro get me every time...love Y'all energy ❤

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

2 жыл бұрын

🥃🥃

You guys are kings. PERIOD!

Hey kings, can you all do an episode on credit and financial foundations? I have some knowledge as a 25 year old, but I’d love to get your insight on this as well while I continue to level up myself. Appreciate you all 💪🏾

O you came thru with that great question of “what if you found the one, and should you end it?” I was just thinking that. Building life

❤️❤️❤️❤️Hey Duke,Hey Omar ,Hey jalon,I would love it if you did a part two of this .Should women be dating when broke?

Love this episode guys! Real men being responsible. What a turn on!

Incredible episode gentlemen

Build that credit king! I love it 😂

The intro is everything and it’s not just about the artist but the way y’all are hype about it in the beginning especially omar 🤣🤣 ..anyways to answer the question it depends..if you are a college student,or a med school or law school student, you are expected to be broke , so why would you not date and pass up the opportunity of meeting your soul mate ?! But a man who is not in a transitional stage of his life, of a certain age let’s say 27 and up..NO ! Cause that’s not cute anymore, what are you doing with your life?! Does a girl have to disclose how much she makes to the guy she is dating or intends on marrying?

Jalonnnnnnn be on fire🔥

I think yall should have a conversation with the HOA Ladies on this very topic. That would be epic in my opinion

If a woman knows a man she’s dating is struggling financially and invites him to certain functions then she should pay. That’s not being a “sugar momma” it’s just practical especially if ur into the guy. I’m not saying support him but where the harm in paying for something at times. I mean heck men date broke women at times.

Ya'll are so engaging and great to listen to. Love all your podcasts that you post. Nothing like a man's perspective! This topic was definitely a real one. I really think dating while not financially stable definitely depends on the maturity of the individual and the stage of a person's life. If you are really into a person for the long-term, dating while not financially stable will probably withstand the test of time. Because, hopefully you are dealing with someone who believes in you and sees that the individual who's going through a tough time is only temporary. And if that person is a praying man/woman the likelihood of that factor is not something that is going to stop them from wanting to give up on that person. Now, if the person is immature then the likelihood of this financially unstable person is definitely going to keep being an issue and become bothersome and most likely draw a wedge between the two individuals. But, dating while financially unstable/broke can be done but very hard for some ppl to do! Just my thoughts....

I love this podcast

Yes, please talk about credit, also, O mentioned that he just used his credit card when he was having a hard time. Can you talk about using liquid vs credit if you hit a hard time, and also how to takle the debt built after your income is back to normal.

Duke and Jalon wearing the same kicks. Love this podcast coming from the 🇧🇸keep it going Gents

Men handling the bills is not chivalrous. It is duty. Chivalry is picking up the tab of another woman or treating your lady.

@Dojo911

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

Great topic

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

2 жыл бұрын

🥃🥃🥃

A lot of this surrounds age range and maturity. But it's great to be honest from the door.

“depriving women the opportunity to kick start a man’s life”… is… crazy lmao

@Brooklynhairs

10 ай бұрын

Frfr

Love this topic i do feel you need to be able to take care of yourself before you start dating as a man. This convo has another layer to it with the topic about a man leveling up because his girl inspires him to. After the level up most men now become men with more options because of the money/level up and they end up being with another woman. I would love if you guys can talk about that topic. Much love

We use credit but don’t pay interest unless is generating cash flow, consumer credit card expense is robbing your wealth.

To answer the question... No .. No you shouldn't if you are to broke to date you should stop dating and focus on getting your money up

Lml haven’t started it yet but the answer is no

I'm wondering if this is the mindset as duke and Omar haven't been broke in such a long time. Wondering, sometimes dating while broke motivates you (on both sides) this was said in the show but you can have so much fun before you get to (if you get to)the 6 figure status. Or maybe I'm broke so that's my excuse 😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝

Intro 😍😃

Is this how the upper half thinks?? I’m watching this thinking maybe this why I don’t have nice things cuz I’m not this picky lol like I accept you for who you are but I do require you have ambition. I’m not where I wanna be either though so if I’m drawn to you and want to get to know you why should we wait because you or I aren’t where we wanna be in life yet? Grow with me! Let’s grow together tf?? lol

@CherrelleColeman

2 жыл бұрын

Right! I'm with you!

@danarenee5916

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah in Los Angeles

Here is an easy solution to someone using you for money: BE MORE THAN YOUR MONEY. Be attractive in more than one way and develop your multi layers. This applies to looks as well.

And I think financial instability is different from not having a job… I can rock with that…. But like no job at all??? Nah can’t do it

We keep saying date when u got money/ provide, which may make men date later in life. This is a double edged sword as men are gonna date younger especially if they want a family, thus leaving a generation of women probably single.

@gailainsley6939

2 жыл бұрын

Not true.. lol despite popular belief the average marrying age for women in the west is 28-35+. Babies were born to women in their 30s in the last 5 years than to women in their 2os and most rich men are with women no younger than 29. Women are never short of men regardless of age so I'm not sure where men keep getting this idea from that women over 30 have no prospects? Look around you lol 😂😂

@leemiller2243

2 жыл бұрын

@@gailainsley6939 statistically there are more women than men worldwide and then if u get into income earned etc the % dwindles.

What u guys shou do it put up the artiste name & the song while yall bumping the song

So if you get with someone and they have nothing how do you deal with that ?

I just want to know when is it unrealistic and asking for too much

Most women would never date done financially.. the more money a woman makes the dating pool shrinks.. the more money a man makes the more doors open

@80skid83

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

nah fam, i’m 17 i’m listen to this podcast religiously😂

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

2 жыл бұрын

🥃🥃🥃

shoot im 19 watching these

As far as the cardi b line she is right but not financially but like a y’all said broke is a mentality and a lot of financially messed up people tend to be mentally fucked up but that does not include the man that is financially messed up but HAS AMBITION or is trying and that man will always deserve it all! ❤️

A lot of women settle to not be lonely. I know a bunch and I could never let a man move in with just food stamps. No bueno

BMP at its finest 🤦🏿‍♀️

NO! Figure your shit out, then date. It’s so selfish to NOT have your mind, emotions, finances, health together, n spirituality n then be out there dating. Then went to do “things” that can create children that neither of u aren’t prepared for. When u do that, a lot of the times it’s highly likely to start to resent u. N dude in the green is correct, there’s someone else that does have it. (College doesn’t count, bc that’s not “real” life, IMO)

More like should you be marrying and making children.. smh I see so many people getting kids too quickly and ruin themselves financially forever.

BNDDNP just mean like if you not providing then you haven't earned it. Like yall have said in another episode, broke is a mindset. You can be wealthy af on paper and still be broke and stingy mentally. So what Cardi said aint necessarily putting a pricetag on the punani its just saying if you not providing then why would any woman let you have it?

You should always have the liquid, average household credit card debt over 10k is ridicules!

No you should not & it’s goes both ways

Actually when you do it add some ladies perspective

Omar, Duke, Jalon, I respect your view. I think it is rare today and I appreciate that you all still operate in the traditions of our generations (90’s kids). However, I was with a guy who was a 29 year old aspiring mma fighter. He’s been chasing it for a while but when we were together, he told me his ex wife paid for everything so he could train - and so if I wanted it to work with him, that essentially would have to be the dynamic until he “makes it”. I really liked the guy but I’m also a 30 year old woman and can’t break my back working for 2 the way his ex wife did and provided for the both of them. What would you say about this type of character? You come from athlete backgrounds, also in la where people have to scrap by a bit to pursue their art. Was it normal for this guy to ask this of me… or is that a whole different beast not worth dating because y’all seem to think that type of behavior is out the question (which is respectable) what do you think?

@SlimBombshell

2 жыл бұрын

His "ex wife" agreed to that lifestyle and she's a ex wife now. Not saying that has anything to do with their separation but im sure she regrets spending all her money funding this man's career. No real man is gonna ask you pay for everything financially if you live together and if you don't live together girl don't move in together. He's basically letting you know he won't be able to do the things a man should do in a relationship. Bills, dates, gifts, vacations. Whats in that for you at all? If he left his wife who funded him, what loyalty will he have to a girlfriend? You better off alone paying your own bills then taking on the role for 2 people with no benefits for you upfront how you'd be for him. He needs to be alone right now if he can't offer you anything. Sounds like he wants another woman to pay for his responsibilities. He can very well chase his career and pay bills just like everybody else in the world. Don't be his come up woman, we all know how that goes. You'll regret every penny you spent if he ever decided to cheat, leave you, be disrespectful etc. Its highly selfish of him... you not his sugarmomma or his mother... support goes a long way but financing?? I think tf not.

@gailainsley6939

2 жыл бұрын

Why did his ex leave?

when cardi b was brought up I was just hoping one of y’all knew SZA’s “real niggas do not deserve pussy” 😂😩

50/50?

BM be h3lla old still acting like teenagers. Smh...

longest dragged out intro ever .....

Duke you contradicting yaself my boy! Lol in the beginning you said “I want to be financially stable cuz I wanna be able to dictate the type of women I date” now cardi B reinforces your position and it’s “ohh that sends the message that men with money can do whatever you want” 😂 but isn’t that why YOU wanted to be financially stable to do the same?? Lol 🫶🏾