“God made me an atheist and gave me free will.” Wait, hold on a second…

@jodis3783

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Those statements can't both be true.

@booneh

Жыл бұрын

@@jodis3783 They can both be true, things can be determined while we still have free will. But that completely defeats her argument.

@TheLilleyPad

Жыл бұрын

That’s the second thing that made my face twist.

@michaelhigdon2912

Жыл бұрын

@@booneh this is true, but an atheist (someone who doesn’t believe there IS a God) cannot say God made them into something, while proactively stating that God doesn’t exist.

@michaelmclean5581

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelhigdon2912 Bam! Mic drop!

These TikTok atheists be asking the most basic, nursery class questions.

@lukebulman767

Жыл бұрын

yep. that’s where a lot of people are at , even in the church :) so cool that this dude has so much humility and grace in sharing these things that as believers we take to be simple truths but might be confusing for others! Definitely challenges me 😂

@JabberW00kie

Жыл бұрын

Right? She acts like this is such a “gotcha“ but it is easily countered with not even 10 seconds of thinking about it.

@Ironica82

Жыл бұрын

@@lukebulman767 That's the damage the false seeker sensitive movement has caused over the decades. Remove deep truths and water everything down to catch phrases to try and "draw the lost in". Other than the fact that scripture states that no one seeks after God, the church is meant for believers to grow deeper in Christ and learn how to live for Him, not be an entertainment center for the lost.

@nickNcar

Жыл бұрын

One of the most frustrating things about athiest vs Christian debate is that the athiest always think they have discovered something that nobody else has discovered in the hundreds and hundreds of years of people studying the Bible and Christianity. Like sure, an edgy teenager with half a highschool education just discovered the proof that God doesn't exist.

@itsok2bwhiteendanti-whiteh548

Жыл бұрын

This guy seriously needs to learn the doctrine of predestination. God calls to Himself only His Elect, not everyone, and He doesn’t do it by “wooing” us, He does it because it’s His sovereign plan. Read Romans 9, God chose to save Jacob and condemn Esau before they were even born. _”Yahweh has made all for Himself, yes, even the wicked for the day of doom” (Proverbs 16:4)._ _”For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God”_ (1 Corinthians 1:18). God chose whom He would save before the foundation of the world and calls us at the appointed time, that’s evident throughout scripture. Fulfilling the Great Commission is God allowing us to participate in the salvation of the Elect, which is why only the Elect will hear, repent, and believe. Most will perish. Some undeniable evidence in support of the doctrine of predestination: • _”All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out” (John 6:37)._ • _”No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day” (John 6:44)._ • _”And he said, ‘This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father’” (John 6:65)._ • _”Whoever is of God hears the words of God. The reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God” (John 8:47)._ • _”…but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand.” (John 10:26-29)._ • _”For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified,… (Romans 8:29-30)._ •Some others: Romans 9:6-23; Romans 11:5-10; 1 Corinthians 1:26-30; Ephesians 1:4-5; 1 Thessalonians 1:4; 2 Thessalonians 2:13; James 2:5). The list goes on, it’s everywhere in scripture. You don’t have “free will,” only God’s will is done. We can’t even repent without God granting us repentance: • _“in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth…” (Timothy‬ ‭2‬:‭25‬ )._

Imagine calling someone arrogant for wanting the best for you.

@johnboehmer6683

Жыл бұрын

Bam ,🔨nailed it...

@skippy675

Жыл бұрын

So if a Muslim tried to convert you to Islam you would take no offense? Even if they just wanted what was best for you? You wouldn't stop them and tell them you know better and they have it wrong? If they insisted that the Quran is the perfect word of God and rejected the divinity of Jesus you wouldn't find them arrogant?

@johnboehmer6683

Жыл бұрын

@@skippy675 1. Absolutely not, why offensive to you?Anyone coming to me with good intentions is going to be appreciated, how could it be any other way in this ice cold world where 90% of all people don't give a rip about me, or wish to do me harm? 2. Of course, if I don't have time to hear him out, I would have to cut him short. And if I did have time to hear him out, wanting the best for him also, I would counter him with the truth of my own personal experience. None of this has anything to do with being offended or thinking him arrogant for going out of his way to do good for me, however. 3. WHY would that be arrogant?? That makes him mistaken, not arrogant. Now of course arrogance can still exist in anyone, and so it's possible that an arrogant Muslim could approach me with their belief, and be arrogant about it. But this in no way equates with the very act being arrogant. Ironically, I've had countless arrogant atheists attack comments I've left here on KZread with extreme arrogance that is unmistakable in their words, and there's nothing about their words that even suggests that they care about me, or want what's best for me. Give me the Muslim pushing his false religion with sincerity any day over that. I will never understand why this is an issue of any kind, when just saying "no thanks", and walking away, is all it takes to put an easy end to this "offense", if that's how one truly perceives it. Advertisements, things pushed upon us are everywhere all the time - do you get equally offended by all these solicitations for things you don't want also?

@skippy675

Жыл бұрын

@@johnboehmer6683 I'm a bit curious how you determined that 90% of people either don't give a rip about you or wish to do you harm. How did arrive at that statistic? How did you determine Islam to be false? I only ask these because assertions are often made without evidence. I don't know if there is an intervening God. I have been immersed in Christianity my whole life which I feel has been a hugh detriment. Before I had any skills or means to determine what I might come to believe the belief was already instilled for me. Now I very genuinely don't know if my lack of belief is something I would have come to in a vacuum, or simply a reaction to a stimulus. I don't think I have the ability at this point to genuinely believe in Christianity, it can't be forced. An all knowing God would certainly know if I am actually sincere or not. This is an actual existential crisis for me. I don't know if this is typical for atheists. I am fine with this term, though I am technically agnostic about the existence of an intervening God. Right now, I can say that I am unconvinced by any faith claims. I think it's quite possibly one of the bi misconceptions about atheists. That they somehow know damn well there is a God, but reject him out of spite or arrogance. Every position and world view comes with its own baggage.

@johnboehmer6683

Жыл бұрын

@@skippy675 Interesting response Sean, I appreciate it. Don't have time at the moment, but I'll get back to you later, have a great day sir.

It's ironic, how she really exaggerates the point about arrogance, yet her tone throughout her little video spews nothing but pure arrogance believing she's right, when she couldn't be more wrong.

@kadecooke9963

Жыл бұрын

How so? How is she wrong? Your religion is full of plot holes?? 😂 You know why that is right? Because its man made…. Id suggest some Christopher Hitchens. Hopefully his teachings can open your closed mind to the fact that your god is dead.

@justanothergmailaccount1353

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, she’s on TikTok. That isn’t a place known for its… scholarship… it might as well have a tagline saying “A leading place for pseudointellectuals and idiots. Beaten only by Twitter and Reddit.”

@N0nPluzUltra

Жыл бұрын

"pure arrogance believing she's right, when she couldn't be more wrong." A accurate description of atheism...

@DruPetty42

Жыл бұрын

@@justanothergmailaccount1353 KZread atheists do the same. I know that you know this but I really just wanted to chime in.

@Horustheoriginalgod

Жыл бұрын

@@DruPetty42 I'm am atheist and I say don't pray for me. Pray for the babies who are born with terminal illnesses, suffer terrible pain and then die hours late. Or pray for the 25,000 people who die from starvation every day, as the omnipresent God watches them suffer

When a secular person says "There's a MASSIVE contradiction in Christian beliefs!", that's usually just another way of saying that they don't understand what Christians believe and don't know what the Bible teaches. Their understanding of the Bible is usually based on isolated, cherry-picked verses, not on the entire book.

@noahowens3688

Жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@Mayan_88694

Жыл бұрын

Is that so? Usually ex Christians like me understand your book of fairy tales more than you do, and I can bring up Many, Your Bible says that Jesus was born when Herod the great was king in the Gospel of Matthew, yet in the gospel of Luke it says he was born when Quirinius was the Governor of Syria, but Qurinius was the Governor of Syria in 6AD, and Herod the Great died around 4BC, is your god such an incompetent communicator?

@kylemacdougall8355

Жыл бұрын

@@Mayan_88694 "Qurinius was the Governor of Syria in 6AD, and Herod the Great died around 4BC" Really? How do you know? Were you there? If your answer is "because a particular document said so" or "because a particular historian said so," then aren't you guilty of blindly believing something just because someone else told you it was true? Aren't you guilty of the exact same thing you accuse Christians of doing? Do you expect ME to accept these facts just because you told me they're true? Interesting... Also...you say Herod died AROUND 4 BC? Not EXACTLY in 4 BC? The difference between 4 BC and 6 AD is only ten years. Wouldn't 6 AD qualify as being "AROUND" 4 BC? Isn't that within the margin of error, if we're talking about events from two thousand years ago that we have little information about? Please explain why Christians are required to prove the accuracy of their historical information beyond a reasonable doubt, but you aren't required to prove the accuracy of your information up to the same standard. Please do so without resorting to special pleading.

@Mayan_88694

Жыл бұрын

@@kylemacdougall8355 No, because 6AD is more than a DECADE after 4 BC, I don’t just blindly trust what the historians and dates say, the dates of the Governors are WELL documented by the Romans, who WERE THERE. It’s hilarious seeing you cope at this obvious contradiction in your book of fairytales. We ask you to prove your claims because claims without evidence are dismissed, you keep claiming Jesus is the way the truth and the life without proving it. And expect people to believe your Superstitious BS. And actually, Herod the great Died in 4BC, so either your jeebus was born when Herod the Great was King, or when Quirinius was the Governor of Syria? Pick one ;)

@kylemacdougall8355

Жыл бұрын

@@Mayan_88694 I have to say, this response was about as lazy and dishonest as I expected. I'm tired of being proven right about these things. "the dates of the Governors are WELL documented by the Romans, who WERE THERE." Prove it. Show me evidence and sources. I'm not just going to take your word for it. "We ask you to prove your claims because claims without evidence are dismissed" Either your reading comprehension skills are abysmal, or you're just pretending to misunderstand so you won't have to answer any hard questions or do some basic legwork. I did not ask why Christians have to give evidence for their claims. I asked why YOU don't have to give any evidence for your historical claims but CHRISTIANS do. I was asking you to justify your blatant double standard. You have given zero evidence for your claims, so I'm dismissing them completely. Change my mind. "you keep claiming Jesus is the way the truth and the life without proving it." And you keep claiming that everything came from nothing without proving it. Christians do give evidence for their claims about Jesus. You just don't like the evidence, so you reject it out of hand and claim it doesn't count. (Either that or you haven't bothered to find out what evidence is out there, so you assume none exists.) "And actually, Herod the great Died in 4BC, so either your jeebus was born when Herod the Great was King, or when Quirinius was the Governor of Syria? Pick one ;)" You don't seem to understand that repeating a claim multiple times is not the same thing as giving evidence for it. Until you prove it, there's no reason why I should believe it. Even if all of your dates are correct, though, that still wouldn't mean there's a contradiction. If two accounts of the same events differ from each other, that's not automatically a contradiction. It's only a contradiction if the two accounts make claims that are mutually exclusive...opposing claims that can't both be true. For instance, there was more than one Herod. There could have also been more than one Quirinius. Or there could have been two different periods when Quirinius was governor. Those are only two of the possible ways of explaining the alleged discrepancy. Also, even if there really IS a contradiction between Luke's account and someone else's account, how do you know that Luke is wrong and the other guy is right? Isn't it possible that the other guy is wrong? How do you know that your preferred source is correct? I'm pretty sure you're just going to ASSUME the other source is correct, because that's the only thing you know how to do. You just ASSUME things and then never question those assumptions. Prove me wrong about you.

My grandpa said something wise to me the other day. He said: "There's no such thing as an atheist. They preach it all their lives but then get on their deathbeds and they start praying."

@dryfox11

Жыл бұрын

Nope! Good try though. It was commonly seen during the horrible events of World War 2 (that your “God” planned out, by the way) wounded or near death soldiers were commonly seen not praying or begging to god, but to their mothers. Millions of young men and boys sent to their deaths in the meat grinder that is war, in the name of their country and god, died crying for their mothers. Such is the grasp of religion, eh? If you convince your followers that they’re going to the most perfect place ever when they die, they’ll be a LOT more willing to die for you. Maybe that’s why more people have been killed in the name of god than any other reason. But please keep acting morally superior.

@sidwhiting665

Жыл бұрын

Your granddad sounds like a very wise man. That said, I wonder if he's always correct? I've known some atheists who swore all the way up until the end that there was no god/God. Also, not everyone gets a deathbed. Some die suddenly in accidents. Some from medical conditions that strike without warning. There isn't any indication that such folks have no "between the saddle and the ground" opportunity to repent. Now, could God present himself in the blink of an eye to them and offer one last chance? Maybe. But we don't know if that's how it works. . The Bible says that many are called but few are chosen. I wonder sometimes if that truly means that the number saved will only be a small portion, sort of like the "remnant" of Israel described in the OT? I don't know. I pray for all to be saved, but with the way this world is going.... it's going to take a massive change of hearts. God can do anything, but I'm not sure he necessarily will cause those who reject him to have a last minute change/call to saving faith.

@ramonfry9673

Жыл бұрын

@@sidwhiting665 in order for him to always be correct he would have to know everything. No man knows everything.

Also, her statement about being "made an atheist by God" would be a "violation of her free will" as she puts it.

@dryfox11

Жыл бұрын

Almost makes you think god given free will… doesn’t exist?? 😂

@antiloser-NFS

3 ай бұрын

Her statement makes no sense in another way: God wants all to come to know him and draw close to him, why would he make someone an atheist?

Sometimes with red pen logic's facial reactions, I think he's going to just rip someone apart but he's always so kind and show such humility when tackling these issues. I greatly appreciate that

When they say "your God" 🤭 He is your God too, my friend 🙏🏻

@celestialodysseies

Жыл бұрын

I think it's their way for say: I deny it as my God.

@vladislavbarbarii2089

Жыл бұрын

He is their God if they accept Him

@vladislavbarbarii2089

Жыл бұрын

@LuthAMFWe are not all God's children as you imply john 1:12. God says "I will be their God" many times only to his people.

@jesusisking6734

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!!!

@arcguardian

Жыл бұрын

He is God but not their "god". I don't mind the distinction because God will say "depart from Me I never knew you." If they reject the Savior, how can He be their Savior?

Just to add quick number 4, you cannot waste God's time. He's outside of time and therefore there is no "time" for Him to waste.

@Deathlock61

Жыл бұрын

How do you know God is outside time? I thought jesus was God... And I'm pretty sure Jesus was in time

@Teuts2000

Жыл бұрын

@@Deathlock61 Jesus is God, during His incarnation he placed His human nature within time. Just because God is outside of time, it doesn't prevent Him from inserting Himself into time at any moment He chooses. C.S. Lewis (iirc) used an analogy I'm going to paraphrase and borrow which I think helps explain this further. Shakespeare writes a play, say Hamlet...the characters in the play interact with each other, in their own time, within their own world and frame of reference. Shakespeare is the reason for their existence. Their creator. 100s of years of history in Hamlet are created instantly in the mind of William Shakespeare. However, Shakespeare could write himself into the play. Becoming a creature within his creation. That "creature Shakespeare" would be subject to the time and nature and interactions of the play Hamlet in that case. For as long or as short as William wants. The character Shakespeare exists within Hamlet's time, while William the author exists outside of it, and is the very reason Hamlet exists at all. This is how I understand it at least.

@theeternalsbeliever1779

Жыл бұрын

@@Deathlock61 The Word came into this physical universe to exist as a human being. It is at that moment He became subject to time, because the physical universe is subject to time. God exists outside of the physical universe because He is not subject to time.

@HestiaHearthfire

Жыл бұрын

@Phoenix I fundamentally disagree with your basic assumption. You assume (according to this comment) that human beings are essentially meat-puppets. No more than matter and energy. Instead, we are both material and spirit, fearfully and wonderfully made with a purpose (that is, to worship our Creator).

RPL, your reponse was offered in love and wisdom. I appreciate the work you're doing! I was raised by 2 atheists, never stepped inside a church, and had no idea what Christians believed or what God was like. These types of pointed questions were akin to my own questions towards Christians about "their God," but I never directly asked anyone; I just kept the questions to myself, always wondering and staying mistaken about everything. I was saved and baptized at age 40 and the mysteries of God and Christian beliefs became revealed to me over time. I can now see how ignorant and arrogant I was in my beliefs. I pray that we all respond with love and correct scripture to bring non-believers to Christ.

@DruPetty42

Жыл бұрын

If only there was more than a "like" button. I love your response.

@Andrea-xs4ny

Жыл бұрын

@@DruPetty42 Aw, thank you. :-)

@NovusIgnis

Жыл бұрын

Praise be to God for another of His children coming back home to Him. Your story is a beautiful one, and I am so happy to be in the bod of Christ with you.

@noahpayer9790

Жыл бұрын

How are you parents doing? I mean that in the sense that did your repentance leave a effect on their atheistic beliefs?

@Andrea-xs4ny

Жыл бұрын

@@NovusIgnis Thank you! Likewise, my brother/sister!

"Now.. I had hair back then." 😭😂😂😂😂💀 But seriously, excellent video. Thanks for this content. It's so helpful to have these informative bits of teaching to fall back on when the world gets crazy. ❤️

@hasone1848

Жыл бұрын

Remember the tree that Adam and eve ate from was the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They had no idea what they were doing until they ate the fruit. Quit blaming Adam and eve for gods work. God made the world knowing 100% that Adam and eve would eat from the tree. God is the one to blame!!!!

@justingary5322

Жыл бұрын

EXACTLY I love his marriage humor 🤣. Her Logic is highly unreasonable and self defeating 😂. It's silly skeptics of The Bible have nothing to offer but clinging to questions instead of seeking after The Truth by offering answers. The Gospel writers were clearly Christ's actual Apostles from the ancient Middle East which proves their statements being of historical validity in the context of The Bible. If The Gospel writers were lying it'd be evident in their style of writing, inconsistencies of their perspectives and information tha doesn't match the context of the times that's it's supposedly said to have taken place in and that's called politically based propaganda ladies and gentlemen. It's meant to prop up someone's reputation for money, power or status. To ALL the Atheists in the comments section like Cygnus Ustus (YOU), Mustache, Barbara Bond, Theo Skeptomai, Dux, Mac and all of the others PLEASE STOP parroting Matt Dillahunty DISHONEST DODGING TACTICS. ATHEISM AIN'T GOT NOTHING NEW OR BETTER TO OFFER THAN THE VERY RELIGIOUS BELIEFS THEY'RE CRITICAL OF SO IT'S HYPOCRISY AT IT'S FINEST 😂. Hello this is for all you Atheists, unbelievers and skeptics. I'm going to address a few misconceptions and lies about God's Character and His Word. The Bible doesn't support chattel slavery or anything else Immoral. Ok so Atheists and unbelievers say God is either Immoral, incompetent or not responsible so let's see what The Scriptures actually say. God revealed himself and created a nation in a real, historical context. It was a world with a slave-based economy, with city states often at war with each other, with polygamous marriages to ensure the continuation of family lines. The laws of the Old Testament regulate this behaviour. Slaves are to be treated humanely (Exodus 21:11). They are given rights and not seen as mere possessions. Hebrew slaves were able to buy their own freedom. Human trafficking is condemned (Exodus 21:16). In contrast to the law code of Babylon, Old Testament Israel was a light to the nations. The Old Testament law and narratives do not stand alone. Jesus is now the best example of what we read. So the moral teaching of the Bible cannot be summarised by a quote taken out of context from the Old Testament to demonize God and His Word. Slavery was permitted in Old Testament law but it was regulated by God giving the Israelites instructions on how to fairly and humanely treat their slaves (it was like indentured servitude where someone could work for you if they owed debts or needed income not cruel like chattel slavery). God allowed the people of Israel to own slaves since they themselves has already experienced over 400 years of generations of Egyptian slavery and knew how inhumane it was to be beaten, overworked and taxed so God set them apart from other nations and cultures around them by giving them a fair way to treat their slaves since slavery had already existed in the world but it doesn't mean God condoned it just used it for His Will to bring Good And in the light of the whole scriptural teaching, we find the reasons for its ultimate abolition (Ephesians 6:9; Colossians 4:1-3; Philemon 15-16 and Galatians 3:28). The Word of God provided the moral standard against slavery in the Roman Empire and against the slave trade in the New World. But what of genocide or holy war in the book of Joshua? Several things could be pointed out. The use of warfare in the ancient world did not always mean literal total destruction, even when events are described in such terms. Furthermore, the book of Joshua does not describe a genocide. It is not a race who are being wiped out, as in genocide, but a religious practice which was often appalling and degrading. Those who repent (like Rahab from Jericho or Ruth) are not destroyed but become part of Israel. It is not the racial group that is in view but their "detestable practices". However, after all is said, we must still acknowledge that God brought judgment on the nations of Canaan. It is not our place as believers isn't to sugar-coat the Bible. For some skeptics, this is enough to make God a moral monster. But the fact is that Jesus continued to affirm that God is a Judge who will bring a future judgment on all peoples and all nations. God’s judgment will be just. The list of Old Testament stories rejected by critics often leads to a similar dismissal of the New Testament teaching of Jesus on the existence of hell. After all, what was the Flood of Genesis or the conquest of Joshua if not a glimpse of future judgment? Hell does not demonstrate cruelty on God’s part, but it does demonstrate His Holiness and our moral accountability. Perhaps this is the real reason many people rail against the God of the Bible? It is not that they think He is a moral monster, but that they are afraid He is a moral Judge, and that has implications for our behaviour now. God is an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being and we as His creatures have Eternal souls and spirits so the punishment for our sins against Him must therefore also be Eternal but so must the reward for righteousness that's why He sent His Son Jesus to live a perfectly righteous and sinless Life (which none of us could ever possibly expect to do) suffer the humiliating and torturous death of crucifixion to shed His Own Blood willingly so that all who willingly accept His gift of salvation by grace through faith in Him will be saved and given Eternal life because that's what God wants is for us to willingly accept His gift of salvation and choose life. Exodus 21:20-21 literally speaks about capital punishment befalling anyone who mistreats their slaves so yes people are taking Scripture out of context to demonize God who literally promises that slaves who are mistreated under someone else's authority is to be avenged. When we hear the word “slavery” we think of innocent human beings, kept prisoner for life, having no rights under law and so reduced to animals. This is clearly immoral because it is unjust: the slave has done nothing to deserve the treatment. The situation described as “slavery” in the Bible was nothing like this. It is more accurately described as one of indentured servitude. Many “slaves” were indentured servants, working for a term of years Some other “slaves” were prisoners. There were no prisons. Prisoners had to work to live like everyone else. Some had life sentences. Some served a term and were released. People didn't beat their good slaves but treated them well and protected their assets thus. But no matter how rebellious a slave was, you couldn't just beat them to death. And if you knocked out their tooth or damaged their eye then you had to set them free. (Exodus 21:26). God wasn't using what other nations did because He wanted to set His Chosen People of Israel apart from the cruel, inhumane and unjust systems other cultures had so He gave them a fair way to treat their slaves and servants. There is a lot of ignorance on this topic which is understandable given the age we live in but it's not the nefarious set up we think of when we think of modern slavery. The question Atheists must ask themselves is how come the Jews aren't being accused of slavery and human trafficking if they're guilty of it in The Bible and why would white slave owners rip out pages from The Old and New Testament Scriptures to justify their owning blacks as slaves if The Bible already justified slavery?

@JayBandersnatch

Жыл бұрын

@@justingary5322 quick question, according to exodus 21:7, how long could you keep a female slave before letting her go? Also, after the slave in exodus was finished his 7 years to pay his debt, whaaaat debt was left for the child of the slave to pay off which prevented the father from taking the child with them? And according to b leviticus 25:44-45, how long could you keep the slave you purchased from the nations around you, and exactly why was it important to add the phrase "you shall not rule over your fellow Israelites "RUTHLESSLY", implying that you could rule over the slaves you purchased ruthlessly. Asking for a friend.

@justingary5322

Жыл бұрын

@@JayBandersnatch No you're not asking for a friend liar you're an atheist with an obvious agenda against Christianity and theism but I'll answer your question for ya. Read your Bible if you still have one

@justingary5322

Жыл бұрын

This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college student. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't. I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict. Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers. Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution like speciation and adaptation but not macro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word. Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.

Multiple times every day I pray for the salvation of everyone in my family and every last one of our neighbors (in the biblical sense of the word).

@vladislavbarbarii2089

Жыл бұрын

You are doing good my friend. Its God's will that none should perish, 1 Timothy 2:4, 2 Peter 3:9. God bless your family and you.

@ChristianGunNut2001

Жыл бұрын

@@vladislavbarbarii2089 Thank you! God bless you and your family too, Vladislav!

@questioneveryclaim1159

Жыл бұрын

Have the prayers ever worked?

@Praise___YaH

Жыл бұрын

Guys, HERE is The TRUE Savior YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified/Pierced for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF” From the Ancient Egyptian Semitic: "Yad He Vav He" is what Moshe (Moses) wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3) Ancient Egyptian Semitic Direct Translation Yad - "Behold The Hand" He - "Behold the Breath" Vav - "Behold The NAIL"

@sirpiken

Жыл бұрын

Why wouldn't once be enough? Is there a threshold limit that will push someone's salvation over the edge? Did god forget? Does he choose not to act unless you meet a quota? It seems like a poor use of your time after the first prayer.

She literally said it....She has free will, and therefore is free to change her mind.

@dryfox11

Жыл бұрын

And won’t, cause god will never tell her, cause he loves it when people burn

@ezekielarraez7045

Жыл бұрын

@@dryfox11 God gives many signs to believe

@TheYambino

Жыл бұрын

​@@dryfox11 Never heard that idea before. Do you have any verses to back that up?

@VaderViktor

Жыл бұрын

@@dryfox11 Really? I was under the impression God loves us to the point he tries to save as many of us as he can from Judgement and Hell.

I'm stunned by the genius of this lady. I'm so blown that I can't even comprehend her highly intellectual argument that shattered 2000 year old systematic theology with a question that never came across the minds of any Christian theologians in past centuries.

@KomatsuHB215LC-1

Жыл бұрын

Sarcasm 2000

@skippy675

Жыл бұрын

Jesus Fucqing Christ, yes! There it is. Some snark and some teeth. Sofa king tired of Christians being nice. Cheers dude!

@dryfox11

Жыл бұрын

@@skippy675 When have christian’s ever been nice? More people have been killed in the name of god than any other reason. Especially if you were a different religion than christianity. Heck, sometimes you could be christian and you’d still get abused by the church. Still happens a lot today in fact, like that pedophile ring all the pastors have going on.

@skippy675

Жыл бұрын

@@dryfox11 you seem to have a point on the surface. But, of course all the folks who do these horrific things were not "real" Christians. Catholics are not even real Christians (according to all self identifying Christian who aren't Catholic) The tricky part that always befuddled me, is that I have never met a Christian who was less than completely convinced they were a "real" Christian? With so many "fake" Christians out there, how do they stay hidden so well?

@isaiah55989

Жыл бұрын

​@@skippy675 dont say the f word,and dont say the Lord's name in vain

I don't ask God to "woo" people. I ask Him to do what He promises and take out hearts of stone and replace them with hearts of flesh.

@kobewan9028

Жыл бұрын

I agree “wooing” people seems a bad word to use for me. I feel like irresistible grace just makes way more sense

@JushuaProvido

Жыл бұрын

Except ‘woo’ is totally the right word. God doesn’t force Grace into people’s lives, unlike what some would believe. He stands at the door and knocks … only if one answers will He enter in. Also, He loved us first, not the other way around. And He literally calls the Church His ‘Bride’. God even made Hosea woo a prostitute to create an allegory of how He was going to woo back Israel and sinners. Also, the revival of a stony heart into a heart of flesh occurs only after one accepts Him as Lord and Savior, not before. There may be a lengthy ‘courtship’ period before one decides to repent of their own free will.

@dryfox11

Жыл бұрын

@@kobewan9028 If grace is irresistible, then i’m breaking gods will by resisting, quite easily as well

@jakes658

Жыл бұрын

@@JushuaProvido Why do so many Christian leaders rape children if that's true? What happened to their hearts? Did god make a mistake?

@JushuaProvido

Жыл бұрын

​@@jakes658 Why are so many dictators - y'know, the ones who've murdered hundreds of millions and allowed their forces to murder and/or rape children, more than all Christian leaders combined - atheists? I thought being non-religious turned someone into a beacon logic and anti-bigotry? See the faultiness in that logic? Being/claiming to be a Christian doesn't confer sinless perfection any more than being an atheist turns someone into a monster. Those 'Christian leaders', which are a smaller percentage than you think, a) need to check whether they were saved to begin with, or b) fell prey to the same sickness plaguing believers and non-believers alike: the sickness of being human. In either case, God or no God, the fault belongs to humanity.

It really amazes me the things that they consider a "gotcha" in those circles.

@weshallneversurrender

Жыл бұрын

True. And it's as if people believe that they are the first people in existence to ever ask these questions (all the way in 2022 lol). Quite a prideful thing, isn't it.

@dryfox11

Жыл бұрын

@@weshallneversurrender It really amazes me that a group of people can see 4000 other recognized afterlife clubs around the world and continue to assume “ah yes, mine is so obviously correct, with the mountains of proof we ha… oh wait…” Don’t be arrogant. Quite often you’ll find there’s more to the story.

@moose6869

Жыл бұрын

​@ironbridge3689 the only arrogance here I'm seeing is from you. Who thinks the beliefs of man varying has any relevance to whether or not there is one true faith. To be more specific, the arrogance of worshipping man and the Self, and holding them as if akin to God. 🤔

'They will say, "Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation." ... The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance'.

@Praise___YaH

Жыл бұрын

Guys, HERE is Our Savior YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified/Pierced for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF” From the Ancient Egyptian Semitic: "Yad He Vav He" is what Moshe (Moses) wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3) Ancient Egyptian Semitic Direct Translation Yad - "Behold The Hand" He - "Behold the Breath" Vav - "Behold The NAIL"

these people always say they don't believe god is real but always blame him when we tell them to repent of their sins they always say "he made me this way"

@TitanXx621

Жыл бұрын

@TP The Free Thinker can you show us where God sinned.

@TitanXx621

Жыл бұрын

@TP The Free Thinker God he loved the world which means he loved us,Not the ground 👇👇 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Can the ground believe in God.. Answer no.. So your argument is refuted. Secondly God killed Onan for disobeying The commanded... having sex with wife of his brother without giving her the seed and it doesn't even mention any about virginity👇 Genesis 38:9 But Onan knew that the offspring would not belong to him; so whenever he would sleep with his brother’s wife, he would spill his seed on the ground so that he would not produce offspring for his brother. Again argument refuted Third who told you God sent hagar to slavery it was Sarah the wife of Abraham who wanted hagar to have a baby with her husband since she was impotent and when hagar had the baby she was jealous of her and wanted to get rid of her it was. It God who made her a slave or sent her away 👇 Genesis 21:10 Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac. Argument refuted 🤙🤙🤙 Try again harder my friend..

@TitanXx621

Жыл бұрын

@TP The Free Thinker I agree the Lord Regret creating mankind I mean look around you human being is the most flithy creature ever the amount of destruction he has done is immeasurable. *Secondly... the Lord didn't create evil, God created lucifer the angel with free will and he choose to do evil and then evil was born not God creating evil, no where in the Bible it says God created evil. *Thirdly this shows you don't know the Bible at all the Moses was even born at the time of onan.. The Story of Onan happens in the book of Genesis the first book and the birth of Moses happened in the book of exodus. Again he was forced to really? The guy was having sex with the wife of brother not once many times and it was Not God who gave the commanded that the brother have to do it was their tradition you might find it weird but they don't. God killed him for disobeying and having sex for the purpose of sex not to give a seed for his dead brother. * Fourth it wasn't Abraham who wanted to cast her out neither was God.. It was Sarah.. People used to work as slaves at the time and your blaming God for doing that? Again hagar already had a baby with Abraham and it was not God who cast her out it was Sarah so your argument is refuted. If you think slavery is immoral you should also blame Allah the God of the Muslims who allowed slavery by giving a commanded also you can have sex with your slaves in Islam.. So don't go there..

Is it just me . . . Or are these atheist questions so simple. Like, he made you. You being an atheist is your choice, which he allows you to have. Me praying for you is simply asking God who knows you best and therefore knows the things or people who could sway you or at least open your mind up enough to accept the possibility of him, to intervene. It will be your choice at the end of the day to accept or not accept. The look on her face as if she has stumped someone, when this is the most basic of questions that could just be answered logically, with just a little bit of thinking. I commend the patience of appologists. But oh . . . How much more do I commend the mighty patience of God!

@darrennew8211

Жыл бұрын

@Grey Why do you pray for God to do what he was going to do anyway? If it's not his will, he won't do it, right? If it is his will, he'll do it regardless of whether you pray.

@lornajames

Жыл бұрын

That's a very great way to dismiss genuinely valid questions that are asked by atheist

@lillisa6441

Жыл бұрын

@@lornajames some of these questions are not genuinely valid, and some I believe if an atheist was legitimately asking for an answer they wouldn't even have to ask. Usually when you have an actual inquiry you've given some thought to the question and sometimes you realise it can be answered with a little critical thinking, an exercise in logic, or even some light research. If you listen to her video again you'll find that she completely contradicts herself at the very beginning of the video; rendering her question illogical when she states God MADE her an atheist and then seconds later it is her free will to be an atheist and by praying for her Christians are violating her free will (I'm paraphrasing). She's given no real thought to this question. In my experience people normally do this when they are already predisposed by their own bias to believe the opposing view is irrationally illogical. So, long story short I am not dismissing a valid question.

@darrennew8211

Жыл бұрын

@@lillisa6441 You don't understand hypotheticals. If god made her, he made her an atheist. She's not saying god made her. She's saying your assumption that god made her is illogical, as you point out. If god made her with free will, then you praying for an all-powerful entity to change her beliefs is violating her free will. One way to disprove something is to assume it's true and then show that leads to contradictions. That doesn't mean the person proving it contradictory thinks it's true.

@bryant475

Жыл бұрын

@Grey Also, we aren't praying for God to change His will, it's mostly to demonstrate our faith and kindness. Whether people pray or not, it won't change how God communicates to unbelievers. He knows exactly how He will communicate with them, how to help them believe, and so on. Could be a street preacher, a video, a friend, a spouse, etc. He knows best.

The straw man is the idea that the purpose of prayer is to ask for stuff. The purpose of prayer is to align ourselves with God and His will.

@antiloser-NFS

3 ай бұрын

Adding on to your comment: Prayer is for us to help us rely on God. God does not need our prayers to know what we want/need.

Facts 💯 as we Christians we are not selfish people we pray for every soul lost or believer why? Because we want the best for everyone to be save and have a relationship with God and Jesus

These people think we treat God like our personal butler. I pray not to receive, but to worship. If I ask, it's mostly for forgiveness and every so often for his mercy. Because I know that because of my free will I will make mistakes that have consequences.

@skippy675

Жыл бұрын

Except that you believe that you won't suffer the consequences of your evil actions because somebody else already did (enter the Jesus). If justice and righteousness were really important to you wouldn't you accept the punishment due you to be visited upon your head? You were the one who transgressed. Instead, you want to switch the narrative immediately to forgiveness and salvation (an avoidance of what you actually deserve). Christianity has absolutely nothing to do with justice or responsibility for one's actions.

@4everMayito

Жыл бұрын

@@skippy675 I think there is some confusion on your part. When I pray for forgiveness I pray to God for sinning against Him. When I pray for mercy, I pray that He would do exactly that, have mercy, because as a man I am not invulnerable to hurting and failing others as well. If I didn't care about my transgressions do you really I would go through all the trouble of going before my Lord to ask for mercy? If I didn't care then I simply wouldn't care and not give a second thought. And being forgiven does not mean we get to do whatever we want. The book of Romans in 6:15 puts it beautifully, " What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? May it never be!" The apostle Paul was apalled that so called believers would use God's forgiveness as a license to sin. We are to never do such thing. Anyone who thinks they have permission to sin are not in line with God's scripture.

@skippy675

Жыл бұрын

@@4everMayito we are on the same page about willful sinning. I don't and never have had the impression or belief that the atonement through Christ was a license to sin. The point still remains that Christianity represents a circumvention of justice, not an upholding of it. Asking God for mercy really means asking God that he make a special exception in your case and do what is unjust, not punish you as you deserve, but instead do what is more favorable and pleasant for you instead. God has no requirement to be just of course. He can be just or merciful per his wishes, but not both at the same time.

@4everMayito

Жыл бұрын

@@skippy675 @Sean You bring up an interesting perspective. However, as I was reading your comment, a part of scripture came to mind. Psalms 103:10-12, "He has not dealt with us according to our sins, Nor rewarded us according to our iniquities. For as high as the heavens are above the earth, So great is His lovingkindness toward those who fear Him. As far as the east is from the west, So far has He removed our transgressions from us. Just as a father has compassion on his children, So the Lord has compassion on those who fear Him." If we all got what we deserved, it would be hell. Thankfully, we also see this play out in real life. Let's say you saw a homeless person begging for food but you already knew that it was his fault for landing on the streets, would you pass him by as he kneels before you? If you were to say, "it's his fault" and left, I think in that moment you would resemble the devil rather than God. Then why does God choses to haver mercy on some? Simple answer, because he can. We don't have a moral ground ourselves on which to stand to accuse God of unjustness. Romans 9:18, "So then He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires."

@skippy675

Жыл бұрын

@@4everMayito I said exactly this in a nutshell. God is just when he wants to be and merciful when he prefers. He can do what he wants, he's fucqing God after all. We are on the same page here.

"How is he going to save me without violating my free will?" Calvinists: "hold my irresistible grace."

@BibleNutter

Жыл бұрын

Calvinists don't believe we ever had free will.

@kevinzybert3018

Жыл бұрын

@@BibleNutter But do we? Where in the scriptures do we find this idea of free will?

@Vampyrekai

Жыл бұрын

@@BibleNutter You have a will. But it's subject to God's Will. His Will is sovereign over ours. Because God sustains our very lives moment to moment actively, He has written beforehand all the days of our lives by His Decree. In the fallen state, you start off with a will enslaved to sin. Romans 8 tells us the will governed by the flesh cannot do good or submit to God. So all our actions are rained by our sinful desires. God must wash us clean, give us a new heart, with new desires and make us a new creation in Christ. God must do this. It is His Will to act to save a sinner. The sinner responds to this grace by loving God with the desires of his new heart. Faith is produced by this heart and by that faith we are saved.

@acem82

Жыл бұрын

@@Vampyrekai kzread.info/dash/bejne/oayVzaelaKW_cqg.html

@Remembering1453

Жыл бұрын

@@kevinzybert3018 1- Because God wants to have a loving relationship with his creatures, you need to be responsible of your choices to love. If we dont have free will, then jesus failed, because he died for some and not everyone. And God its not all loving, for he doesnt love those who by his whim decided to abandon 2- The church fathers, scripture, and classical theism(The philosophical position that God exist, not by revelation but reason) accepted free will

As a Atheist i find quit nice if someone prays for me if its meant well like how we just along

@dogelife7901

Жыл бұрын

Prayers that the door is opened for you fellow traveler

@plokoon3943

Жыл бұрын

@@dogelife7901 thanks

It’s sad that many atheists, especially on TikTok, are talking in condescending tones while making an argument, but many Christians are talking in love. Not saying that that’s the case for all atheists and Christians. Just an observation.

@junosynth

Жыл бұрын

That's because a lot of them think they are smarter than a theist. I also see a lot of comments how we have no critical skills. Apparently critical thinking only applies to Atheists. Lol.

@gsanchez5116

Жыл бұрын

Right, they always come off as so mad. Unfortunate that some bad “Christians” may have left a sour taste in their mouth and now they treat every Christian with hostility, always automatically going into a discussion with aggression. Like lol I don’t want to discuss when you’re already mad!

@kadecooke9963

Жыл бұрын

Tell that to the people they condem to hell.. 😂 You know like gays and anyone who doesnt worship jesus….

@hillstrong715

Жыл бұрын

@@kadecooke9963 Interesting that when you say [Tell that to the people they condem to hell.. 😂 You know like gays and anyone who doesnt worship jesus….] you demonstrate that you, yourself, are condemning people. Is this a case of you (the pot) calling the kettle black?

@skippy675

Жыл бұрын

@@hillstrong715 why are you trying to play the race card here. The physical appearance of the cookware is not the issue, it's the fact that they are bickering instead of harmonizing. In Christ's Holy name we are one. Peace.

I have to express my admiration to you for taking the time to listen to the inane arguments of highly arrogant unbelievers without going insane. Instead, you take their points and dispute them to help other believers. You're becoming something of a hero to me for that.

@Dhorpatan

Жыл бұрын

*"You're becoming something of a hero to me for that."* And that's pathetic your threshold for what qualifies as a hero is that damn low.

@ajmittendorf

Жыл бұрын

@@Dhorpatan So is my threshold for what qualifies as an idiot. And you just made yourself highly qualified in my estimation. Congratulations!

@Dhorpatan

Жыл бұрын

What's idiotic about pointing out how ridiculous you are being for kissing this dude's behind that obsequiously?

@ajmittendorf

Жыл бұрын

@@Dhorpatan Thank you for proving me right. Think for a moment. Compare my response to your comment to how the person in the video responded to the idiots on TikTok.. You'll have to employ your brain. Don't hurt yourself.

@Dhorpatan

Жыл бұрын

@@ajmittendorf No I might hurt myself. Why don't you tell me what you're babbling about and how it's idiotic to point out how ridiculous you are being for kissing this dude's behind so obsequiously?

Hell is full of people with regret. We must pray for all mankind. I only been a Christian for a bit over ten years. I was once an atheist, agnostic and pagan. Now, I am a proud Christian and I thank God every day that I can pray for me and others. God uses us all in many ways. I pray for this woman because I feel like she will see the light. Prayers work.

@dane947

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure you were a proud atheist, agnostic and pagan. You're just a confused individual really, acting as if you found something. At night when your head hits the pillow and you fall asleep, you still know your prayers don't do anything.

@meteoric91

Жыл бұрын

Why do you believe? And how do you know what you believe is true?

@lornajames

Жыл бұрын

You believe in hell you know that divine torture chamber that was made by your all loving god

@dryfox11

Жыл бұрын

@@meteoric91 He doesn’t. It’s lies! Big surprise

Decent way to answer this without diving into Calvinism (which seems to be what she's critical of rather than the majority of Christianity)

@calebgeary3890

Жыл бұрын

I don't think she was critical of Calvinism. On the contrary, she was critical to rationalistic/Arminian Christianity that emphasizes a pure libertarian free will not found within the Scriptures. Hence her issue, "If God made me with free will, and I chose atheism, why are you violating my free will by praying for God to change it?" The Calvinist would say, "God's not concerned with your will, but with saving you."

@archerofthereformation5966

Жыл бұрын

@@calebgeary3890 yes!

@kaileyspencer9244

Жыл бұрын

@@calebgeary3890 It honestly sounds like she's taking bits of both; like she heard someone who believes in free will make an argument and a Calvanist make an argument, took some points from each, and decided in her mind that it's "what Christians believe".

@HestiaHearthfire

Жыл бұрын

@@calebgeary3890 A good analogy I've heard is if someone falls overboard from a boat and drowns. Is giving that person CPR going against their free will? How much less so would it be if that person were truly dead and was brought back to life?

She's got a very strong distaste for who she believes God is. She probably closer to those Christians' prayers being answered than those who are completely apathetic toward God. I pray her eyes will be opened and one day she will make a video of her testimony from atheism 😃

@Wrayv3n

Жыл бұрын

It's so weird to see where I used to be.. I was an Atheist for about 8 years, God wooed me to be a pagan and eventually in His Mercy led me to Christ. I used to make so many strawman arguments, using points from Pop Atheism to refute who I thought God was.. Funny and poetic that now I use the same arguments across the glass to refute then and try to help point the Way for others. God bless, family. May we never stop praying for the lost.

@arcguardian

Жыл бұрын

@@Wrayv3n God doesn't woo to paganism, u just made a bad turn heading towards Him.

@MissingTrails

Жыл бұрын

@@arcguardian pagans are, in one way, closer to finding God than atheists. Pagans know they have spiritual need, and go looking; atheists (at least, of the reductionist variety) deny the spiritual entirely.

@Wrayv3n

Жыл бұрын

@arcguardian You misunderstood my meaning, I chose to use "woo" for metaphorical effect. I wouldn't be a Christian had I not been a pagan, God gave me a stepping stone to him. I couldn't believe in an Almighty power beyond me, I started traveling down a path of "Magick" and "seeing" an over-arching pattern, a guiding force. It's complicated to put it all in a comment but I hope my meaning isn't lost.. God Bless.

@chriper77

Жыл бұрын

@@Wrayv3n You're in good company. CS Lewis went from staunch atheist to accepting Christ, but there was about a 10 year period, in his twenties, where he could only accept some sort of dualistic non interventionist type of Being. Then became one of the greatest Christian writers of the 20th century

I Pray for and Ask God to Bless EVERYONE..Everyone Needs Blessing..We are ALL just Sinners Saved by Grace.

Just want to say thank you for these Red Pen Lessons! I find myself progressing from being able to SLOWLY but SURELY follow your train of thought, to predicting what you will have in reply and reflecting on points you made that I never considered.

I'm stumped. She's smarter than God huh ? Lol. Ill pray for her until she learns to laugh at herself instead of the father. Much love to all. God bless 🙏

@dryfox11

Жыл бұрын

She’s smarter than god if Im smarter than a unicorn

Asking God to show you the truth is not violating your free will in any way. You can always reject him.

@daven8905

Жыл бұрын

She already has

@Saved-by-Grace

Жыл бұрын

But on that glorious day of His return, she will bow her head in shame and declare that Jesus is Lord.

@Mayan_88694

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@@Saved-by-Grace and It still never happened, y’all been saying that for 2000 years, and still , Nada. Although the flying spaghetti monster will return soon! Become a Pastafarian!! Or perish in the eternal oven!

@solideogloria6569

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@@Mayan_88694 if we are wrong by believing in God and the Bible, what do we have to lose?, but if you are wrong, you have lots to lose. "We love because He first loved us." - I John 4:19.

@shadowfax9177

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​@@Mayan_88694 thank you for saying that. You are fulfilling biblical prophecy by doing so. 2 Peter 3:3-10 3Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts, 4 and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation.” 5 For when they maintain this, it escapes their notice that by the word of God the heavens existed long ago and the earth was formed out of water and by water, 6 through which the world at that time was destroyed, being flooded with water. 7 But the present heavens and earth by His word are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men. 8 But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9 The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance. 10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.

It’s rather presumptive of her to assume it isn’t God’s will to have her be saved.

@daven8905

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Yes. She assumes that God has placed all human beings in a position of spiritual neutrality to either choose Him or not. The whole scenario is a false premise. And then people take the bait and argue based on her premise. She’s a sinner who rejects God. No one is spiritually neutral.

@itsok2bwhiteendanti-whiteh548

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This guy seriously needs to learn the doctrine of predestination. God calls to Himself only His Elect, not everyone, and He doesn’t do it by “wooing” us, He does it because it’s His sovereign plan. Read Romans 9, God chose to save Jacob and condemn Esau before they were even born. _”Yahweh has made all for Himself, yes, even the wicked for the day of doom” (Proverbs 16:4)._ _”For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God”_ (1 Corinthians 1:18). God chose whom He would save before the foundation of the world and calls us at the appointed time, that’s evident throughout scripture. Fulfilling the Great Commission is God allowing us to participate in the salvation of the Elect, which is why only the Elect will hear, repent, and believe. Most will perish. Some undeniable evidence in support of the doctrine of predestination: • _”All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out” (John 6:37)._ • _”No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day” (John 6:44)._ • _”And he said, ‘This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father’” (John 6:65)._ • _”Whoever is of God hears the words of God. The reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God” (John 8:47)._ • _”…but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand.” (John 10:26-29)._ • _”For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified,… (Romans 8:29-30)._ •Some others: Romans 9:6-23; Romans 11:5-10; 1 Corinthians 1:26-30; Ephesians 1:4-5; 1 Thessalonians 1:4; 2 Thessalonians 2:13; James 2:5). The list goes on, it’s everywhere in scripture. You don’t have “free will,” only God’s will is done. We can’t even repent without God granting us repentance: • _“in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth…” (Timothy‬ ‭2‬:‭25‬ )._

@EmberBright2077

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@@itsok2bwhiteendanti-whiteh548 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise. . . . Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance (2 Peter 3:9)

@Michachu7

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The mere fact that you are commenting and telling people that they need to know something is going completely against your own beliefs because #1 predestination assumes three options but is wrong because of it 1 it believes that Jesus died for all the sins of some people and not all the sins for those who believe but what it’s most fatal error is, is that it assumes that belief is a work and if you worked then you can boast about your faith but I didn’t do anything to believe other than open my eyes because as it says in Roman’s all men are without excuse because the work of God’s hand. God has made it so easy to see Him if you humble yourself admitting that you can’t do anything to get yourself back up again only Jesus can get you back up again.

@daven8905

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@@Michachu7 👍

Amen. That was really well explained. Glory to the Lord Jesus 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

@dryfox11

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1+1+1=….1? Deluded.

@Xavier-ww9zy

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@@dryfox11 God is 3 persons 1 God. It is interesting isn't it? He's so different from what we know of this physical world. That's why you used a tool for physical science to show that you lack understanding for a spiritual being. I'm sorry that you feel the way you do, but may the Lord make you wiser, or at least enough to not call a stranger names because your own inability to grasp a topic. Humility really is rare today

@Xavier-ww9zy

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@@dryfox11 the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus. Romans 3:22‭-‬26

@pipoulapiquette7804

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@@dryfox11 Yeap, you just discovered the principle of sets and subsets, a basic mathematical principle.

Great job as always!

I wanna get into apologetics!

@Strongtower

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Then study study study. Study general apologetics first then find a specific field of apologetics. Study the Bible cover to cover. You can't defend the faith if you don't know the faith.

@2FAST_4U

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@@Strongtower thanks for the tips! Any book suggestions from the bible?

@masonmp1889

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@@2FAST_4U james is a good book, though i say prayer and fasting benifits the soul more than studying, you should align yourselve to the will of God and pray unceasingly and fast so youre soul be strengthened and you must not want to win you should want to fear God more than anything you do through this comes a true understanding of the scriptures

@itsok2bwhiteendanti-whiteh548

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This guy seriously needs to learn the doctrine of predestination. God calls to Himself only His Elect, not everyone, and He doesn’t do it by “wooing” us, He does it because it’s His sovereign plan. Read Romans 9, God chose to save Jacob and condemn Esau before they were even born. _”Yahweh has made all for Himself, yes, even the wicked for the day of doom” (Proverbs 16:4)._ _”For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God”_ (1 Corinthians 1:18). God chose whom He would save before the foundation of the world and calls us at the appointed time, that’s evident throughout scripture. Fulfilling the Great Commission is God allowing us to participate in the salvation of the Elect, which is why only the Elect will hear, repent, and believe. Most will perish. Some undeniable evidence in support of the doctrine of predestination: • _”All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out” (John 6:37)._ • _”No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day” (John 6:44)._ • _”And he said, ‘This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father’” (John 6:65)._ • _”Whoever is of God hears the words of God. The reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God” (John 8:47)._ • _”…but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand.” (John 10:26-29)._ • _”For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified,… (Romans 8:29-30)._ •Some others: Romans 9:6-23; Romans 11:5-10; 1 Corinthians 1:26-30; Ephesians 1:4-5; 1 Thessalonians 1:4; 2 Thessalonians 2:13; James 2:5). The list goes on, it’s everywhere in scripture. You don’t have “free will,” only God’s will is done. We can’t even repent without God granting us repentance: • _“in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth…” (Timothy‬ ‭2‬:‭25‬ )._

@masonmp1889

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@@2FAST_4U you should check out father spyridons channel and also bible illustrated if you want some good christian teachings

Thanks RPL

This is amazing, I love your content. I have recently stumbled upon your channel and I’m so glad you’re doing what you’re doing ❤️

Grace and Peace to you. Her logic is horrendous and so easily refuted. I pray that the scales will fall from her eyes.

I'm a Christian, and I've wondered this too. Thank God for Red Pen Logic. :)

Brilliant video as always! I love the way you reason these arguments!

Great response! Thank you!

He wouldn’t “void your freewill” by demanding you believe; however, He can expose Himself in different way throughout your life. When someone prays for your salvation, yeah, it would be great if an angel came down and told you, “yo, God is real.” But rarely (if at all) do we expect that to happen. It’s much more likely that God will strengthen the Christians around you, to show you the love of God. And even if an angel came down and spoke to you, it would still be your choice of whether to believe or not.

@Romans8-9

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I disagree. When it comes to salvation, our "free will" does not matter to God. Who he saves is based on his will and sovereign choice, our nature/will is to reject God and suppress the truth so we need to have our will overridden by his to get saved. I also obviously highly disagree with RPL's marriage analogy based on his obvious belief in synergism. Salvation is the work of God alone.

@EmberBright2077

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@@Romans8-9 So God deliberately makes people to be atheists so they go to hell huh.

@thomasthepromise8430

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​@@Romans8-9 1) our free will does matter to God, after all, our free will is part of His own image and likeness in which He created us, 2) you're conflating "sovereignty" with determinism, and they are two completely different concepts. God doesn't need to play both sides of the chessboard to accomplish His will. 3) our nature is to reject God, but God sent His Son (Jesus) to save us, His Holy Spirit to convict us (convince us of our sin and need for a Savior), and the Divine Scripture which teaches all of the above. 4) God doesn't need to (nor does He) override our wills due to #3. "Salvation is the work of God alone." Absolutely! And us believing on Him is not contributing to that work as you will likely retort, but it is us merely receiving His most gracious gift.

@itsok2bwhiteendanti-whiteh548

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This guy seriously needs to learn the doctrine of predestination. God calls to Himself only His Elect, not everyone, and He doesn’t do it by “wooing” us, He does it because it’s His sovereign plan. Read Romans 9, God chose to save Jacob and condemn Esau before they were even born. _”Yahweh has made all for Himself, yes, even the wicked for the day of doom” (Proverbs 16:4)._ _”For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God”_ (1 Corinthians 1:18). God chose whom He would save before the foundation of the world and calls us at the appointed time, that’s evident throughout scripture. Fulfilling the Great Commission is God allowing us to participate in the salvation of the Elect, which is why only the Elect will hear, repent, and believe. Most will perish. Some undeniable evidence in support of the doctrine of predestination: • _”All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out” (John 6:37)._ • _”No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day” (John 6:44)._ • _”And he said, ‘This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father’” (John 6:65)._ • _”Whoever is of God hears the words of God. The reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God” (John 8:47)._ • _”…but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand.” (John 10:26-29)._ • _”For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified,… (Romans 8:29-30)._ •Some others: Romans 9:6-23; Romans 11:5-10; 1 Corinthians 1:26-30; Ephesians 1:4-5; 1 Thessalonians 1:4; 2 Thessalonians 2:13; James 2:5). The list goes on, it’s everywhere in scripture. You don’t have “free will,” only God’s will is done. We can’t even repent without God granting us repentance: • _“in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth…” (Timothy‬ ‭2‬:‭25‬ )._

@Romans8-9

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@@EmberBright2077 No, we choose to be atheists, pagans, (even deists and a majority of theists) and whatever else since we always reject God, God chooses who he saves though.

It's like we have to teach Sunday School to adults. Or maybe this is the result of not taking our Children to Sunday School.

I hope your channel blows up brother more people need to hear this!

One of your best so far. Thank you

Very well said as always Mr. B. God bless you.

This is why i love so much how our relationship with God really truly reflects a marriage

@ayybeealternative1999

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It's more like an abusive marriage.

It’s amazing how angry these people get yet they don’t realize we are preaching and praying to them out of love for them and God. What you explained in the video about us praying to God to move in the unbelievers Life in a way where they can no longer deny him, yes you explained it perfectly!!!! There are actually countless testimonies of Christians who used to be atheist, Muslim, and other non believers And they Say they were brought to God because of him showing himself in ways just like this. That is what we are praying for, for the remainder of Nonbelievers.

Thank you MrB !! While I was watching the woman's video, I had reservations about what she was saying but didn't have the words to refute her claims. You really break down and articulate these arguments so very well.

Praying for them is like cheering for a sports-team that is passing through a very hard moment in the season [perhaps multiple consecutive seasons by now], so they don't give up. Is still up to the team to either react, find courage and achieve victory, perhaps even the championship, or to get angry at one another and with the audience cheering them up, and remain mediocre the rest of their lives.

@darrennew8211

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Except you're not really having any effect at all. It's like sitting at home cheering at the television, and thinking it'll help the team.

@GranMaese

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@@darrennew8211 You didn't put attention. First, is up to the team to win or not, indeed, as I clearly said, but you still hope the best for them and keep cheering them on, is not about one match [as you are also confusing what I said], is about the team itself. Plain and simple.

@darrennew8211

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@@GranMaese You said, "so they don't give up." That implies that your cheering somehow helps the team not give up. If I misunderstood, my apologies. But your prayer does zero to convince an atheist your deity exists. You know what might? Some actual evidence.

@GranMaese

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​@@darrennew8211 So, you are telling me that you can't wish someone well if he is not literally physically present before you? Or why would you immediately jump to that conclusion? No harm done, though. The prayer is not to convince them directly, the prayer is TO God to move their hearts and to put them in the right path. Furthermore, how is it that so many atheists do convert to some religion then, mind you? The evidence has remained the same since forever. So your conclusion doesn't adds up. The issue comes from you believing evidence can only be strictly physical, not metaphysical [that which is transcendental}. Considering God is metaphysical being and not physical one, I would rather consider absurd the idea of denying Him solely by physical standards. Also, for something that is not "real" you surely like to talk about it and seek Him a lot. Deep down I think you don't deny Him, rather you want to find Him, you simply doesn't know how, hence your insistence. All that had to be said has been said, so I'll reply no more. Good day, good sir. I hope succeed in your subconscious quest and manage to find Him.

@darrennew8211

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@@GranMaese No. Of course I can wish someone well. What doesn't happen is that wish makes them feel better when they don't know about it. Which I made perfectly clear. So you're strawmaning me in the most obvious and blatant way possible. Which makes you look foolish to anyone less foolish than you are. Here's a hint: If you start a question with "So you're saying...." and then finish it with some absurdly ridiculous assertion, it's an excellent indication that you're providing a straw man and you should rethink your comment. That said, contrast that with your prayer to god that you expect to actually have some effect on the person you're praying about. Atheists convert to religions for non-rational reasons not based on evidence. They don't convert to religions because you prayed for them in the privacy of your own home and never mentioned it to them, nor do they convert because your god heard your prayer and violated their free will. You may believe otherwise, but that's because you're irrational about this topic. As for talking about "him," no, I'm not seeking him. I'm seeking to be left alone by crazy people who think they can talk to an omnipotent immaterial being to get their way instead of doing some actual work to make things happen. I don't care how you worship, as long as I don't have to do anything because you have these irrational beliefs you're trying to impose on others. Go to church all you like, as long as you don't try to use the force of law to punish me for not being irrational in the same way you are. Also, please don't pretend to read my mind based on a couple of paragraphs in a comment section. That's exactly the sort of stupid insanity I'm talking about trying to avoid. Oh, and feel free to pray for me, only to discover it has absolutely no effect on anything.

We pray because we want God to interfere in one's lives to help them repent, not discard or eliminate their free-will.

@itsok2bwhiteendanti-whiteh548

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There is no “free will,” there is only God’s will. Your will cannot alter His will. He chose who He was going to save before the foundation of the world. This guy seriously needs to learn the doctrine of predestination. God calls to Himself only His Elect, not everyone, and He doesn’t do it by “wooing” us, He does it because it’s His sovereign plan. Read Romans 9, God chose to save Jacob and condemn Esau before they were even born. _”Yahweh has made all for Himself, yes, even the wicked for the day of doom” (Proverbs 16:4)._

@Mayan_88694

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@@itsok2bwhiteendanti-whiteh548 so according to your mythology, your god destined me to become an atheist and end up in Hell. Your god apparently created and already knows who will believe and not believe, yet he will punish you for not believing, your imaginary genie is the perfect embodiment of a sadistic Psychopath

@itsok2bwhiteendanti-whiteh548

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@@Mayan_88694 If you die in your unbelief, it’s because you were not His, that’s true. But you do not know that, do you? Because of His grace, you’re still breathing. Countless atheists with hostility towards God like yours have believed in, and come to Christ to be saved. You do not know if you are of the Elect-“a vessel created for honorable or dishonorable use” (Romans 9), therefore making a decision to reject the gospel unto death, especially after hearing it, will most certainly damn you.

@itsok2bwhiteendanti-whiteh548

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@@Mayan_88694 Keep in mind that scripture makes it clear; _”There is none who understands; There is none who seeks after God” (Romans 3:11)._ Everyone is an atheist at some point until God calls them.

@Mayan_88694

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@@itsok2bwhiteendanti-whiteh548 not everyone is born an atheist you lying Coward. I USED to be a Christian. A born again devout Christian, until I became an atheist. According to your presup propaganda, it was God s will that I would become an atheist and leave the faith, and then he will Punish me for not believing anymore even though that’s what He pre determined. Your god is a Megalomaniacal Sadist

Amazing. I had trouble with this question. The comparison you made with your relationship is perfect!

Thanks Red Pen for sharing great biblical answers.

She's kinda contradicting herself when she says she has free will, and that we pray to save people like her, when we're not praying to go against her free will, but rather to show her why she should converge.

Probably my biggest pet peeve: when people who are not Christians assume to know what Christians believe or what the Bible says and then make their argument based on those false stereotypes or perceptions.

@JoseRodriguez-dw9dv

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Straw man

@kingetzel2755

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To be fair I've seen a LOT of Christians fo it too. How many people think "God helps those who help themselves" is biblical? How many non-Christians get their misconceptions from ill-informed Christians?

Awesome, i love that you make these types of videos and even catholics/christians can learn a lot through them. Keep up the good work. Love you brother, greetings from Germany

Great reasoning as always! Thank you☺

Maybe if I was a Calvinist I'd agree with what she's saying. I don't think she understands a whole lot about Christianity. lol Praying for someone to come to Christ isn't a violation of God's will, because it's God's will that all come to Him nor is it a violation of free will, because no one's asking God to FORCE you to become a Christian.

@itsok2bwhiteendanti-whiteh548

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Is there even such a thing as a “Calvinist”? Actually, no. John Calvin didn’t invent his own doctrine like Joseph Smith, and get people to follow it. He interpreted what scripture ACTUALLY says very clearly, and those who believe they have “free will” and can do things like “choose to accept Jesus into their heart”-whatever that means-gave him a false label; similar to not having a rebuttal, so you call someone a racist in hopes to discredit and silence them.

@fukukyun78

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​@@itsok2bwhiteendanti-whiteh548 Yes, we have free will. Otherwise this is just some predecreed cosmic chess game and God's already determined every move in advance and we're all going to hell or heaven no matter what we do... well, if you're a 5 point Calvinist there's nothing we CAN do. We're just robots, or pawns in the chess game of life, and life is pointless, because let me tell you, God doesn't want a bunch of "elect" robots who only worship him because he decreed it since the creation of the world, and that's WHY we have free will, because who would want someone to FORCEFULLY love them? God wants us to choose willingly to love Him. He has not predestined you or I to be Christians. I said this before, but here's the big flaw in Calvinism(and yes, you are a calvinist if you believe everything was predestined and there is no free will)... I believe if anything is predestined, salvation would be the most obvious thing that's off the table. I hope you take off your Calvinist glasses and read the Bible with wisdom and understanding the Holy Spirit gives, you would quickly see the flaws in Calvinism when held up against the scripture. And yes, that verse is a Proverb, Solomon obviously wasn't saying the wicked were destined to die no matter what they do because God made them like that. lol

@fukukyun78

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@@itsok2bwhiteendanti-whiteh548 Go watch Leighton Flowers, if you're already aware of him you probably think he's some kinda heretic, but he was an ex-Calvinist and runs the youtube channel Soteriology 101 that actively refutes the reformed doctrine. I won't respond further to you.

@itsok2bwhiteendanti-whiteh548

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@@fukukyun78 God chose whom He would save before the foundation of the world and calls us at the appointed time, that’s evident throughout scripture. Fulfilling the Great Commission is God allowing us to participate in the salvation of the Elect, which is why only the Elect will hear, repent, and believe. Most will perish. Some undeniable evidence in support of the doctrine of predestination: • _”All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out” (John 6:37)._ • _”No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day” (John 6:44)._ • _”And he said, ‘This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father’” (John 6:65)._ • _”Whoever is of God hears the words of God. The reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God” (John 8:47)._ • _”…but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand.” (John 10:26-29)._ • _”For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30 And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified,… (Romans 8:29-30)._ •Some others: Romans 9:6-23; Romans 11:5-10; 1 Corinthians 1:26-30; Ephesians 1:4-5; 1 Thessalonians 1:4; 2 Thessalonians 2:13; James 2:5). The list goes on, it’s everywhere in scripture. You don’t have “free will,” only God’s will is done. We can’t even repent without God granting us repentance: • _“in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth…” (Timothy‬ ‭2‬:‭25‬ )._

@itsok2bwhiteendanti-whiteh548

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You and this guy seriously need to learn the doctrine of predestination. God calls to Himself only His Elect, not everyone, and He doesn’t do it by “wooing” us, He does it because it’s His sovereign plan. Read Romans 9, God chose to save Jacob and condemn Esau before they were even born. _”Yahweh has made all for Himself, yes, even the wicked for the day of doom” (Proverbs 16:4)._ _”For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God”_ (1 Corinthians 1:18).

That is such a weak "gotcha" she has there.

This is so good!!!

Thanks for this!

Modern evangelicalism has ruined Christianity and atheism. Free will as we use it is not biblical. We have only a creaturely will. God is the one with a "FREE WILL"

The sad part is how often the false concept of "free will" is pushed in the church when scripture states that our will is inslaved to sin before Christ saves us.

@MrWeebable

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Free will is implied in every command and every request in the Bible.

@itsok2bwhiteendanti-whiteh548

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This guy seriously needs to learn the doctrine of predestination. God calls to Himself only His Elect, not everyone, and He doesn’t do it by “wooing” us, He does it because it’s His sovereign plan. Read Romans 1, God chose to save Jacob and condemn Esau before they were even born. _”Yahweh has made all for Himself, yes, even the wicked for the day of doom” (Proverbs 16:4)._

@itsok2bwhiteendanti-whiteh548

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@@MrWeebable Lol 😂, there’s an outright lie if I’ve ever seen one so blatantly spoken.

@cryptfire3158

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Like you said. And i would say.. i think people don't realize something: If we could calculate and evaluate every single factor that might influence a person.. then you could predict exactly what someone might say word for word, even 10 or 20 years from now. We can't create a single thought that isn't influenced and comes from somewhere. Christians are led by these things too, but the difference is that Christians are making decisions based on light and wisdom, Non-Christians make decisions blindly.

@MrWeebable

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@@itsok2bwhiteendanti-whiteh548 and you believe that God determined for me to lie like that? Or was that my choice? And don't start about 'your nature'. Who determined my nature?

Thank you for your clear understanding and explanation of everything. I always wonder how you are going to break the video apart. I never figure it out but hopefully I'm learning. Thanks again, God Bless brother.

God bless you and save you all! "Struggle with all your power to gain Paradise. And do not listen to those who say that everyone will be saved. This is the trap of Satan so that we won't struggle." - Saint Paisios the Athonite

May God bless, thanks for the clear explanation and understandable argument! May we all spread the love of Jesus today!

Great vid. It’s sad that many Christians don’t even know how to refute an argument such as hers.

LOVE THIS VIDEO!!! Everything you said is exactly what I have been saying for as long as I can remember! Where is the "love" button!?!?

Bro I literally so great! Glad I subbed

I love these videos they are very helpful

I reacted to a vid by this lady a couple months ago too… bless her heart

Good stuff, keep it up bruv! 💪😎🇺🇸

Very well said, as usual.

This is an awesome response

I loved how he leaned in and out of her video for emphasis. Oooh. It must be true, she leaned in!

His word says I have created both the evil and the good for my purpose. He still gave us freewill.

Very good and clear explanation. Thank you and amen.

Bro I love your channel. Keep it up

Great video

Brilliant!! Love your refutation-explanation ❤️🙂 it hurts to listen to this beautiful young woman! God help her, save her please

We pray for you because the number one, or the most pressing issue is you ask for evidence, so we do this so that God opens your mind and reveals himself to you. We do this so that hopefully you will choose him. . . Notice choice is still a thing in this equation. So we do it but the decision to accept him and have a relationship with you is still upto YOU.

Faith is believing there's a special path behind the fence. Free will is choosing to jump it

Exactly! We are praying that God will draw unbelievers. He draws them to Him but they still have a choice.

LOVE THIS💯💯💯

@traevon.m.

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Super edifying!

Well said 👏

Because we love you athiests. I always pray for God to soften their hearts so they can be open to the gospel of Christ. It is their choice to love God.

@alexandrezeddam7817

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Atheist here. Thanks Hank. You're exactly the kind of person we need more of :) May you have a good day, week, month, year and I wish you and your family can be healthy and wealthy.

Amen brother

Great answers

So good! I hope you also put your videos on TikTok. Seems like they need some more truth over there!

Prayer for the lost is like an intervention for the soul.

“I wooed her… I had hair back then.” HAHAHA! Well said!

I agree. Praying for an individual for opportunities to come to know Christ is not a violation of free will. People still have a choice in the matter. As Christians we pray for the individuals in our life because we care for them.

Very interesting 👌

Snap, dropping truth bombs filled with logic and reason. Love it!

I hope she blossoms in a wonderful way!

Her arguement for the way she is, an atheist, is floored.

Her understanding of Religion is floored too.