I like this video. Ok, now I’m going to watch it.

@richardrodriguez8953

3 жыл бұрын

Mike. You did a good job also on this subject. 👍🏽🙏🏽👍🏽

@Mike00513

3 жыл бұрын

Mike you’re the best.

@ShopRat295

3 жыл бұрын

Keep doing what you’re doing Mike!

@andrecherry2347

3 жыл бұрын

I loved your video on this topic, Mike. Great work! God bless.

@jacobellinger8027

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Pastor Winger I see you too are a man of culture.

Robertson is neither progressive, nor Christian. Here's a clue: If you think you've "caught" God in something, or outsmarted Him, you are wrong. Every time.

@farmercraig6080

3 жыл бұрын

So true.

@James_Bee

2 жыл бұрын

Amen.

@DookyButter

2 жыл бұрын

He's definitely progressive but only in the modern sense of the word, not how people like C.S. Lewis would apply the term.

@notoriusbookworm48

2 жыл бұрын

Aha yes I, a dumb mortal with only earthly knowledge, has outsmarted God, an omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, almighty being who created Heaven and Earth.

@furlan1743

2 жыл бұрын

@@notoriusbookworm48 judeo Christian god is lie. You believing in him is only the result of the social context you were born in.

Reminder that this reverend was actually committing literal heresy. Jesus has not, and will never sin. He is all good, because He is God.

@lukeedwards-sparsholtt1587

2 жыл бұрын

And blasphemy

@mynameis......23

2 жыл бұрын

AMEN

@skjalgstangnes4233

2 жыл бұрын

Jesus is not God, he was a human. He could have sined but chose not to. He made mistakes and got angry. I do not know why people have such a hard time understanding that.

@Digganob590

2 жыл бұрын

@@skjalgstangnes4233 Making mistakes and getting angry are not necessarily sin, dude. The fact that He had the capacity for honest mistakes, and emotions and of course pain that affected Him, are important to the whole deal with Him becoming human, but that's a different issue... Can you point to one example of Him committing a singular, solitary sin, that He Himself declared to be a sin? Not talking about breaking the rules of the old covenant here. Those were laws, and laws can change. Not morality, though, it cannot. He broke many rules of the old covenant, because they no longer applied, as He, the messiah came.

@lukeedwards-sparsholtt1587

2 жыл бұрын

@@skjalgstangnes4233 wrong. He never made mistakes, He was God in the flesh. I’ll give an example: John 1:1. His anger was righteous anger hym?

The rankest part of this "reverend's" heresy is how he says that Jesus was a mere human, just like the rest of us. He is, in effect, denying Jesus's divinity. Denying His divinity is an ancient heresy. In this modern era, it's a standard component of progressive/naturalistic theology. It has terrible and wide-ranging consequences.

@SeraphsWitness

Жыл бұрын

Funny enough, the earliest heretics we're gnostics who thought the opposite... That Jesus couldn't be literally human because the flesh is evil. Flash forward 200 years and Arius is teaching the exact opposite heresy. Nothing new huh

she said "yes, Lord" not "no, bigot" LOL thank you for speaking truth to lies with love and some fun.

@diollinebranderson6553

3 жыл бұрын

Yea that "no bigot" caught me off gaurd😂

@malvokaquila6768

3 жыл бұрын

Thus sayeth the gentile "how dareth thou question mine lived experience yay I am now livedeth"

@sorakanzoku1748

3 жыл бұрын

ooo im going to use that phrase i like it speak truth to lies.

@kechegoyen

3 жыл бұрын

My 13-year-old laughed so much at that part that we had to rewind.

@ocdfishingaus268

2 жыл бұрын

Actually made me laugh out loud. So funny

Everyone pray for the reverend. He's in a terrifying place and needs rescue

@RedPenLogic

3 жыл бұрын

Amen.

@WhereWhatHuh

3 жыл бұрын

May the Sovereign Lord God, Jesus Christ, open his eyes and reveal to him the errors of his thinking and the errors of his theology. May the Lord break down the walls of re-interpretation that he has built around his heart, so that the Truth of Jesus may seep into his soul and cause him to thirst after true redemption. In the Name of the Lord Jesus, who is not willing that any should perish, but that All should come to repentance, we beg these things.

@paigecervantes9857

3 жыл бұрын

Please pray for all the people who follow him and those who will come across Brandan’s video!

@1977Jackofalltrades

3 жыл бұрын

Not a legit reverend.

@showusjustice523

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think he needs to be rescued. I think he is very happy with being a blasphemer, straight from the devil.

Even as an atheist I literally laughed out loud hearing that TikTok interpretation.

@kadensmith2935

8 ай бұрын

Jesus died for you. We are wretched, evil, depraved sinners, who deserve nothing but to burn in hell, but God gave us a way out, in his son. Jesus died so we can have eternal life. Repent, before it's too late.

@YoshiCh1ef-je6me

6 ай бұрын

If you think that Christians are ridiculous, you're definitely gonna get a load of these people

I am so glad I am not a "progressive Christian."

It doesn't make sense for a Reverend to say Jesus sinned, because then he would be in eternal jeopardy as Jesus would not be a perfect sacrifice for all sins.

@HerveyShmervy

3 жыл бұрын

Wait just found out he's a universalist too 🙄

@qaz-fi1id

3 жыл бұрын

Lotta unbiblical teachers go by reverend,

@dp5141

3 жыл бұрын

I find it odd that they follow Christ if they find flaws in him.

@HerveyShmervy

3 жыл бұрын

@Jaykob Seiler yeah that's a good point

@HerveyShmervy

3 жыл бұрын

@@qaz-fi1id yup, even the big ones like MLK

"Jesus repented of His racism" well...there goes my salvation

@WhereWhatHuh

3 жыл бұрын

Fear not, Friend. We have a High Priest who was tempted in all way, like as we, yet *without sin.* (Heb. 4:15)

@Solbashio

3 жыл бұрын

So Jesus, was a sinner. Lmaoooo

@jayfalzarano8046

3 жыл бұрын

There is that!!!

@marjorie5677

3 жыл бұрын

@@Solbashio seriously 🤣

@jenniferornduff7835

2 жыл бұрын

Christ Jesus was,is,always will be SINLESS..... 2 Corinthians 5:20-21 20 "Now then, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were pleading through us: we implore you on Christ’s behalf, be reconciled to God. 21 For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him."

How can you be a Christian yet believe that Christ is sinful? Unbelievable.

And this is what God meant about taking His name in vain. I can't believe he calls himself a reverend.

Good job debunking this Tim, as always. “Progressive Christianity” is worse than atheism in many respects, and this is a case in point.

@FaithfulHorrorhound

3 жыл бұрын

Especially as, as stated in Revelations, the teachers of the Word will be judged first and more harshly than all others.

@kennystrawnmusic

3 жыл бұрын

@Ohio State Oh, sorry. Thought you were talking about Tim and/or myself. Thanks, completely agree that Brandon doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

@glmathgrant

3 жыл бұрын

I nearly became an atheist *because* of progressive Christianity. I saw progressive Christianity as proof that God can’t communicate very well (why did it take us over 1900 years to figure out that Jesus is totes pro-gay?), and possibly doesn’t exist.

@kennystrawnmusic

3 жыл бұрын

@@glmathgrant Well I’m glad you found out just how much of a gross misrepresentation of Christianity “progressive Christianity” is.

@antrygis1

3 жыл бұрын

To mislead is not Christian. Poor Robertson.

This so-called "Reverend" blasphemed God for millions to see. Thanks for addressing his bad thinking with good thinking, Mr.B

Absolutely loved this! I’m an Orthodox Christian and found this really interesting and insightful. Thank you and God Bless! 💕☦️

@kova1577

2 жыл бұрын

Good thing you’re not a degenerate protestant

@kassiani_626

Жыл бұрын

Heyy, fellow Orthodox Christian here. God bless. ☦️☦️☦️

@Val.Kyrie.

Жыл бұрын

☦️☦️☦️

@dukedevlan5457

11 ай бұрын

I'm a non denomination Christian it is crazy how much the words of christ are being twisted

This is exactly why we read the Bible IN CONTEXT!!!! Taking out bits and pieces of scripture leads to destruction every single time.

@dman7668

Жыл бұрын

I agree, that's what most Christians do. For example, they now believe you are saved by faith alone even though it isn't taught in the Bible.

Thanks Tim for this. Another way to take the 'dog' part is to notice. 1. The word used for dog is 'kunerion' (puppy or 'little dogs'), this is word is never used of Gentiles as 'dogs'. 2. The Lord is speaking metaphorically - 'the children' 'the table' 'the little dogs'. The picture is of a household, where 'children' (the privileged Jews - 'children of the kingdom') have first offer of the food on the table - i.e. the blessings of the kingdom, this was true. Jesus came first as a 'minister to the circumcision' (Romans 15), 'to the Jew first...' (Romans 1). The Gentiles were blessed through the Jews. So in this case, they were viewed as 'little dogs', around the children's feet, with less obvious privilege. 3. The woman realizes that she doesn't have any right to approach Jesus for a blessing on covenantal grounds, so she develops the analogy further - 'even the little dogs under the table eat of children's crumbs' - she understood that Jesus wasn't speaking about the unclean 'dogs' kept outside - but the little puppies that were allowed inside, and could pick up the scraps'. I don't believe that there was anything derogatory in this term in her mind. She simply is coming humbly, and submissively to the Saviour, and comes on his terms. She asks for a scrap of blessing. She comes trusting in His grace alone. This is a great foreshadowing of this present age when millions of gentiles (including me!), have received this same grace, by coming in faith in a humble way to the feet of Jesus, who draws out that faith by starting an analogy and allowing her to finish it. Roberts 'Jesus' would need a Saviour himself!

@bethiaprosser1189

3 жыл бұрын

Amen, my dude.

@jkm9332

3 жыл бұрын

Wow, well said! I really wish more progressives would read and think more carefully like this.

@farmercraig6080

3 жыл бұрын

That’s interesting, I notice in the amplified bible it has (Mark 7:27) “ First let the children [of Israel] be fed, for it is not right to take the children’s bread and throw it to the pet dogs (non-Jews)”

@OrenTube70

3 жыл бұрын

Very thoughtful addition. Thank you

@nbtoppers2

3 жыл бұрын

Great addition!

One other thing to consider: If Jesus had to repent (as this so-called reverend Robertson claims) it means that Jesus had committed a sin. If Jesus had sinned, then He no longer was qualified to be our Savior and the sinless sacrifice that would be necessary to pay for man's sin. In fact, Jesus would have needed a savior Himself, otherwise He would have been condemned to hell like the rest of us. Therefore if Jesus could not be our savior, then we would still be in our sins, we would still be condemned to hell, and we would be wasting our time believing in Jesus. If that is the case, then the Bible would be a lie, and we should just go out and live like hell, because that is where we'd end up. Fortunately, Jesus DID NOT sin and therefore DID NOT NEED TO REPENT. He died for us as the sinless sacrifice for all of us, for all sin for all time. Therefore the Bible, and the Gospels in particular, are not a lie. If we have repented, we are saved, and assured that we will be with Jesus in Heaven. Mr. Robinson fails to take his bad theology to its logical conclusion. He only wants to portray Jesus in a way that conforms to his blasphemous woke theology.

@mkovis8587

2 жыл бұрын

to repent doesn't automatically mean they had sinned though: God was the first to repent in bible. And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.

@cjfitguy

2 жыл бұрын

@@mkovis8587 God has never repented nor has he needed to. To repent is to outwardly express regret or remorse for your own wrongdoings, mistakes, or (in the biblical sense) sin. God is incapable of any of the things. God is inerrant. I think you're mixing up words here. Repent is not the term you're looking for and therefore your logic doesn't apply.

@mkovis8587

2 жыл бұрын

@@cjfitguy it literally says in the bible "God repented"

@cjfitguy

2 жыл бұрын

@@mkovis8587 There's not just ONE interpretation of the Bible. There's all sorts of versions (some better than others). So if you could provide me with the version of the Bible that you're reading from as well as the verse that states what you're saying, that would be great.

@mkovis8587

2 жыл бұрын

@@cjfitguy King James Version (not the new one) Jonah 3:10

The one major, critically serious theological flaw of saying "Jesus repented" means He's capable of commiting sin, therefore He'd be not victorious over hades and He'd be not victorious over death, therefore nullify His entire purpose of existing in flesh and bones. His theological take would make even the lapsed and non-practicing Christians spooked.

Thank you! This is seriously an amazing gift to break down arguments and reply with class, respect, and clarity.

Thank you for addressing this. That video was utter cringe, but those who have no idea about the Bible will believe this no matter what. It’s scary.

@PjotrII

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe those - with no idea, but as a progressive myself, the things he claims are crap.

@keridavis2623

2 жыл бұрын

@@PjotrII unfortunately I’ve seen this very prevalent in progressive circles. So I would definitely encourage you to encourage the progressive side to be much more biblical. It’s concerning.

@PjotrII

2 жыл бұрын

@@keridavis2623 Perhaps, but there is also a twist in this question that I would like to address. 1) I do NOT deny that there isn´t any "pick and choose" among progressives, me myself included. However, there is also pick and choose among evangelicals (conservatives and fundamentalists). 2) There is a general difference in how we view the bible between evangelicals and progressives (and it also differs a lot inside those groups). Let me take an example... there is a telephone book for a city with 300.000 citizens. One group claims that the telephone book IS perfect, and includes NO errors. The other group have concluded that there can be errors in it... some think they are only a few, some think there are dozens, and some talk about several hundreds of errors. * If I look up numbers, and call my friends, but do not att Brians phone number, because the telephone book says his number is 123. I might not be cherry picking "which" numbers I like and don´t... I simply don´t trust the data that his number is 123, as everyone else have longer numbers. Same comes to the bible... (let´s first forget the guy in the video)... my friends, some liberals, some progressives, do not read the bible and PICK (oh I like this verse = I take it), I dislike that one so I skip it... the conclusions they´ve made, is often through years of reflection and analysis... where some claims in the bible, can be like the number 123... it simply doesn´t fit. Leaving the number 123 and trusting others, is then in my views not cherry picking.

@keridavis2623

2 жыл бұрын

@@PjotrII so are you saying the word is not inerrant? Yes, that’s a pretty major disagreement right there. 😬

@PjotrII

2 жыл бұрын

@@keridavis2623 Yeah exactly! That is the thing that has consequences on how to interpret religion and the bible. This is the main divider on what direction one will take, even if there are big differences inside both camps as well.

I think the silver lining to this crazy Tik Tok being released is the abundance of quality teaching thats taking place as a result. It's been awesome to see faithful Christian teachers break down this relatively uninteresting scripture so thoroughly and teach people how to dive deep into scripture and think critically about God's Word. Thanks Mr. B!

@nbtoppers2

3 жыл бұрын

Right? I don't have tiktok, but these biblical rebuttals are everywhere and I love it.

@shaunhunterit342

Жыл бұрын

Relatively uninteresting scripture?

@gradensikes7958

Жыл бұрын

@@shaunhunterit342 was that supposed to be a question?

@nicholastrudeau7581

Жыл бұрын

Not exactly, it was more a request for clarification and or explanation.

@judemichaelvelez6789

6 ай бұрын

Amen....God always finds a way to always make wisdom of men as foolishness to Him.

I really hate how “progressive Christianity” distorts the people’s view on Jesus. If Jesus needed to repent because he was a bigot, then that would’ve made him flawed and not worthy of being the ultimate payment for our sins. Stay away from progressive Christianity.

@kova1577

2 жыл бұрын

Aka protestantism and western subversion

@KingNazaru

2 жыл бұрын

@@kova1577 Real Protestants aren’t a part of progressive Christianity.

@kova1577

2 жыл бұрын

@@KingNazaru eh, I doubt it in this day and age. Then again there’s so many different types of protestant that it’s not really easy to pin point which denominations are not following the teachings they claim and are glorified leftists posing as religious people

Hearing a 'reverand' speak like this fills me with a great deal of anger. To mislead people, as he is doing, is perhaps, the greatest sin. He is injecting his woke, demonic political views into scripture. This is Satan speaking, not a voice for Christ.

Here is a note to keep in mind in this world. If anyone says "I'm a progressive whatever", this means they r not whatever comes after the word progressive.

@ematsjca

3 жыл бұрын

...because somehow they progressed beyond whatever. Same for putting "social" in front of "justice" and other otherwise meaningful causes.

@IAmisMaster

3 жыл бұрын

How about “I’m a progressive rock musician”? 😉

@PjotrII

3 жыл бұрын

I am a Christian and progressive. Please don´t simplify things, and paint everyone under the same color. If I said all evangelicals are like Kenneth Copeland... would that give a fair view on evangelicals? In the same way, I don´t know where they found this guy, but his views do in no way reflect my own. He does only speak for himself, not for me or other progressives.

@brettjern3264

3 жыл бұрын

@@PjotrII Jesus doesn't "progress". He is the same yesterday, today and forever more. If you're not following Jesus of the bible u aren't a Christian, it's just that simple

@PjotrII

3 жыл бұрын

@@brettjern3264 So we agree on that! Therefore, I wished that you would not simplify things with some "whatever they say they are wrong..."

I thought Mike Winger had already made a K.O on that video... Mr.B revived it and burried it. Game over.

@RedPenLogic

3 жыл бұрын

Haha!

@kilemyers784

3 жыл бұрын

@@RedPenLogic Talk about beating a dead horse eh? 🙂🙂😂😂🤣😂🤣😐😐😂🤣😂🤣

@calummacritchie7840

3 жыл бұрын

@@kilemyers784 Neigh

@jonatandjurachkovitch460

3 жыл бұрын

Satan is dead. Let's bury him!

@CelticSpiritsCoven

3 жыл бұрын

@@jonatandjurachkovitch460 Satan is an active force. The George Floyd trial result and the fake president residing in the WH are just 2 examples.

This was clearly for teaching His disciples that EVERYBODY is welcome. He was teaching His disciples and helping this woman.

They're about to get a rude awakening when Jesus sets one foot on the land and one foot on the sea and declare to the heavens, "Time is no more!"

I really hope the Tik Tok dude watches this. God bless him.

@officialsteviet

3 жыл бұрын

He watched Mike Winger's video and just brushed it off ignoring all of Mike's points and turning it into "Mike is being mean and singling me out" kinda response

@jkm9332

3 жыл бұрын

@@officialsteviet So he had no counterargument? Just played the victim?

@nicshoffner3131

3 жыл бұрын

@@jkm9332 Correct. Actual arguments are hard.

@PastorVaughn

3 жыл бұрын

Not only that but also accused Mike of cutting up the video & taking him out of context. It was so strange.

@showusjustice523

3 жыл бұрын

He knows exactly what he is doing. He is intentionally trying to lead people astray.

Thank you for this. This is a master class in seeing how certain people can twist words and facts to support their agenda.

@frankstanley8499

3 жыл бұрын

Works for both sides. 😉

@michaelbanda9993

2 жыл бұрын

@@frankstanley8499 no it’s called liking Into the text with truth. Not for your own good. Trust me if I wanted for my own good I wouldn’t take it the text how it really is because then I could do wtv I want. I choose to take it humblingly and change my lifestyle FOR him. Totally opposite.

@michaelbanda9993

2 жыл бұрын

@@frankstanley8499 looking **^

@MrTheclevercat

Жыл бұрын

Religious people are known for twisting words, history and facts to support their agenda. That's their entire mission.

@thatguywhocallsmebill5797

Жыл бұрын

That certain person being Mr. B in this instance. To be fair, Jesus can't have been a racist as what he 'said' is unfalsifiable.

When he said "speaks truth to power" I gagged a little bit.

I always assumed Jesus’ “dog” quote was an “aside” spoken not to the woman, but to the followers with him, for them to understand his teachings.

Remember people: "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." 2 Timothy 2:15 Kjv.

When your lifestyle contradicts the bible you have to read into the text what's not there. He's trying to justify his lifestyle.

@keith6706

3 жыл бұрын

You mean like almost every Conservative American Christian ever? Huh. Good to know.

@frankstanley8499

3 жыл бұрын

Like every christian I have ever met? You can cherry pick what ever you want to justify what ever action you are doing. I've watched to happen for years.

@James_Bee

2 жыл бұрын

@@keith6706 We are all sinners. We must loom to Him to overcome our weaknesses. Pray for those that look to themselves for strength; that is anti-Christ. That is Satanism.

@PjotrII

2 жыл бұрын

@@frankstanley8499 and @Keith I was going to say about the same. Every interpretation is an interpretation... the conservatives/fundamentalists evangelicals claim the WHOLE bible to be true, and search for excuses not to stone people as the OT says, and other cringe verses. Maybe some liberal interprets something to suite their understanding, but in the end it´s the same thing both groups do.

@keith6706

2 жыл бұрын

@@James_Bee Satan is an imaginary mythological figure, so that threat is about as real as warning someone that the Easter Bunny will put out a hit on them with a unicorn assassin.

Thank you so much for making this video! It's scary how "good" these false teachers can sound, so thank you for presenting the Word of God and letting it speak for Itself.

@CalebScott1991

Жыл бұрын

There's no reason to think this specific God is even real.

@themanbehindtheslaughter7319

Жыл бұрын

@@CalebScott1991 you're the second person I find there that does this...

@CalebScott1991

Жыл бұрын

@@themanbehindtheslaughter7319 Just waiting for even a single person to figure out one reason at all? Just a lot of avoiding the question is all I seem to find.

When you call that man a “reverend,” I can’t help but hope that you are using that euphemistically.

The one dislike must be Rev. Robertson.

@R_Karri

2 жыл бұрын

Ahh,back when dislikes were viewable.

When I was little and read the verse that says salvation comes to the Jew first and also to the Greek, I thought I was out of luck because I’m not Jewish or Greek. 😂 I read the “dog” passage in the same wooden way. Thankfully if you read the whole Bible you see Jesus is in no way prejudiced towards Gentiles.

@StephenLoney

3 жыл бұрын

😄

The entire premise of the gospel is that Jesus was perfect and never sinned. If Jesus had anything to repent of, the entire faith would crumble. What a ridiculous stance.

I wish people would stop using “Reverend” to refer to this false teacher.

That guy on tiktok is CRAZY! I couldn’t watch more of his videos. Thankfully in the comments there are people correcting him, but he ends up deleting or blocking them. So many people follow him, and they are getting taught this garbage.

@themonsterunderyourbed9408

Жыл бұрын

That's exactly what Jesus did when people tried to correct him... He blocked and deleted them... Right?

@Urrelles

Жыл бұрын

Yup when their logic has no ground to stand on they always resort to cultist tactics of blocking out opposition to keep their flock in line.

@LanMandragon1720

Жыл бұрын

@@themonsterunderyourbed9408 Thats certainly what progressives do

@themonsterunderyourbed9408

Жыл бұрын

@@LanMandragon1720 no they don't. They cry and get the government to censor those they don't like.

@LanMandragon1720

Жыл бұрын

@@themonsterunderyourbed9408 I mean they certainly do that as well but my statement is accurate. The progressives can and do use any and all methods possible to suppress thier opponents

why don't these progressives just call themselves secular and be honest about things

@computationaltheist7267

3 жыл бұрын

Hello there. I normally see you in Zac of Adherent Apologetics channel. I haven't seen you in a while there. I hope all is well.

@computationaltheist7267

3 жыл бұрын

@@bds8715 Thanks. Good to see that you are well.

@sethlester1659

3 жыл бұрын

If they called themselves secular, they would have a harder time getting anyone to follow them. If you call yourself Christian, then you can mislead a bunch of people to follow you to Hell with a faulty gospel that treads in the footsteps of the anti-Christ that approves of all sin that has the false appearance of love.

@kova1577

2 жыл бұрын

Or zionists

@ChristianAuditore14

2 жыл бұрын

Because they want to decieve as many as they can into hellfire

And that's called Droppen the Mic! You are awesome and thank you.

I like your approach of not making fun of people, but calling out the mistakes while also acknowledging if they said something right like giving the correct context. This is a really good channel man, keep up the work!!

If Jesus was a racist as per Brandan He would have sinned! Thereby disqualifying Himself as our Savior!

@brandonwillis4811

2 жыл бұрын

No need to explain J for GOD soo Loved the world and not certain people.

These kinds of "Reverends" are just making it easier for people to rationalize their rejection of the truth and their unrepentant hearts. Glad to see you poking holes in all the right places. Keep up the good work!

I am so grateful for your logical and analytical breakdown. I share these all the time and i am very grateful.

We need to QUIT using the term "Progressive Christian" and start using the honest term... Progressive NOT a True Christian!!!

The only downside of great guys such as Mr. B and Mike Winger producing these videos is that pseudo pastors as the one referred get more air time. But correction and protection of innocents from heresy is necessary

@PjotrII

2 жыл бұрын

As a progressive, I had never heard of this guy, until the "guys" started to bring him up. He is not a spokesperson for any other than himself, and the official voice of his congregation. We progressives come in many forms with different ideas, and in my case, I don´t agree with 90% of what they´ve shown of him. A common problem is that there is a tendency to "pick the worst" and then try to say this is an ordinary image of EVERY progressive Christian. It is the same if I take Kenneth Copeland, and say that he represent all Evagelicals.

@MarvelGamer2023

Жыл бұрын

"Progressive Christian" is an oxymoron.

@SeraphsWitness

Жыл бұрын

Drag the rot into the light to disinfect.

Actually, this so-called Pastor has the same view of Jesus as a Buddhist would. This is Eastern philosophy, not Christianity.

@lukesalazar9283

3 жыл бұрын

Correct

@kova1577

2 жыл бұрын

Christianity is eastern though. The woke retardation is subversion

This is fantastic! Recently found this channel through STR and am currently going through Mark. Just read that story (which was my first time knowing of it) and was surprised at Jesus's words, too. This is a fantastic explanation with SO much context I didnt know or couldn't figure out on my own. This channel is fantastic

That passage has often baffled me, and I always admired the humility of the woman and her plea and test of faith. Thank you for this video!

Brandon Robertson's videos reveal what is central. At the core of his "hermeneutic" is that which can be used to justify his beliefs about culture and homosexuality. You see it in a number of ways, including the frequent use of catchphrases (e.g. "speak truth to power") and where he stops reading verses or what context he skips over. It should be a grave reminder to the rest of us: be cautious when the entirety of how we see Jesus fits perfectly with OUR culture. We are sinful, fallen people, there should be things that a holy God says or does that make us uncomfortable. Our hermeneutic should seek first to properly grasp God, not tickle our ears or the ears of those who embrace our culture.

@SDRBass

3 жыл бұрын

Syncretism has been going on a long time and both sides are just as guilty. People on the political right will elevate the Constitution to the level of Holy Writ and people on the left will... well we just saw it. The Old Testament is replete with examples of the nation of Israel practicing syncretism and it never ends well.

@computationaltheist7267

3 жыл бұрын

Mr. Robertson has not just stopped at homosexuality. He thinks that polyamory or open relationship are also moral for Christians. To be honest, kudos to him for being consistent with his hermaneutics. Some of the progressive Christians tend to shy away from that path. Erin Wathen, pastor of United Church of Christ herself is not convinced of polyamory but she notes that she sounds like those "old fashioned traditionalists". We should all pray for Mr. Robertson but we should also appreciate his honesty.

@farmercraig6080

3 жыл бұрын

Yes well said.

@SDRBass

3 жыл бұрын

@@computationaltheist7267 Hey if you're going to be a heretic, may as well go all the way. If these people insist on calling themselves Christians, then at least make the divide so large that no one can miss it.

@WhereWhatHuh

3 жыл бұрын

@@SDRBass Better still, let them stop calling themselves Christians and find a new name. This one is taken.

Thanks for doing this video. Frustrating to know this man is teaching people twisted scripture. Exposing false teachers is protecting little ones. 🙏✝️

Jesus used a classical teaching method that was popular at this time and not very popular today. Plato used this too. To frame the teaching not as a monologue presentation, but to have a dialog where you provoke the student to say the right thing. Jesus basically was showing that extending salvation to the gentiles doesn't reduce the salvation of the chosen people. Salvation is not scarce or a competition.

This is the equivalent of 2 people arguing over what kind of rabbit the Easter bunny is.

I'm so tired of people saying, "speak truth to power."

Great video once again, Tim! It seems that the term “progressive Christianity” is an oxymoron.

@PjotrII

3 жыл бұрын

First of all, the problem is that this guy does not represent progressives... second problem is that he is picked for his "worst we could find" and then try to say - all progressives are like that. It would be like I took Kenneth Copeland and told all evangelicals are like him. I am a progressive, and I have no clue what his weird thoughts are, it has nothing to do with my own views.

@cici79

2 жыл бұрын

@@PjotrII - Ok! Thanks for sharing but what is the website of your church? I would like to know more about what your faith is like? Merry Christmas & God Bless!

@youknowitstrue3826

2 жыл бұрын

Celebrate Recovery Which is hilarious since American Evangeliclownism isn't even two centuries old.

@cryptfire3158

2 жыл бұрын

@@PjotrII "progressive" in what i perceive in society is liberal (left politics). Interestingly, the bible is both left and right in some respects. I know it's kind of distorted to try to view the bible through our current society lenze, but let me continue. The law given by Moses would represent things in the "right" of politics. When Jesus allowed the disciples to eat in the cornfields on the sabbath, (not a sin).. that represents more about liberty (left). One last thing i shall mention. The "progress" of modern day democracies is not actually progress. Especially for example something like feminism which people view as one of the most progressive ideas. Feminism actually is a ideology that hates women and is trying to erase feminine qualities which is no surprise since the world hates God and is unwilling to submit to the order in which he has ordained.

@PjotrII

2 жыл бұрын

@@cryptfire3158 As you say, it is too simple to say progressive = liberal in politics, but there is a point in what you say. Also, I view Jesus as a much more liberal/progressive, than Moses. Feminism may at it´s start have been a good ideology... the point was to raise issues of getting lower pay for same jobs etc... but with time, at least here in the Nordic countries, feminism has change to be a PRO- women (if you think like them) and "anti-men" ideology. Not striving for equality, or seeing/accepting that we are different. To simplify it, women should be paid more than men for the same job. At least 50% of a company´s leadership should be women, regardless of their skills?????

I am just disappointed that he did not show Jesus's response which was epic! Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour. That is powerful. If he was a bigot no matter the pleading or the faith of the woman would have mattered. He wanted to show the disciples the worth of faith and humbling yourself and not just the value of being lucky enough to be born an Isrealite.

Jesus knew she was going to trust in him and beg for his mercy and forgiveness.

THAT... WAS SO RIGHT ON 👍 NO, SERIOUSLY! IT WAS SO PERFECTLY RIGHT ON BROTHER!!! 💖 IT JUST SKEWERED THAT ARGUMENT RIGHT THROUGH TO THE WALL OF SELF AND PRIDE. THANK YOU SO MUCH, FATHER, AND HOLY SPIRIT, IN JESUS NAME, AMEN. MARANATHA, BRO 👍 🔜🙌❤🌅

I've had this "discussion" for years. So many have let their lifestyles or politics influence their religion-- the "finding what's best for me" / "have it your way" approach to Christianity. This "woke" interpretation is a result of that attitude. Appeals to emotion over appeals to evidence. Never mind "dog" is a creature not a race.

@kova1577

2 жыл бұрын

Hell dog may be s gender for these Neanderthals

Well done. Even Satin quoted the Bible, but out of context. Then Jesus rebuked him by quoting the Bible in context.

@amyqb117

2 жыл бұрын

So true! Simply quoting the bible means nothing. Context and actually understanding what God means rather than reading meaning into it is what we really need!

"God made Him who had no sin, to be sin for us, so that IN HIM we might become the righteousness of God." 2 corinthians 5:21

Came across this portion of the bible today...i was really confused and wondering " what did jesus mean by that"? ...then this video got uploaded...glory to God..💞

@Slavaisusukhrystu

2 жыл бұрын

I really recommend using a Bible commentary, a lot are available online

From what I seem this "reverend" likes to use the phrase 'speak word to power'. His fruit is rotten but people have been deceived to eating it and calling it good.

The idea that the God who made every single person, and subsequently every single race can be prejudiced or biased is just...wow

They say Jesus was a social justice warrior and a liberal, but they also say he was racist. They just can’t make up their minds about anything.

Great video. There are more scriptures that use the word dog which has nothing to do with race but sin: Mat 7:6 “Do not give dogs what is holy, and do not throw your pearls before pigs, lest they trample them underfoot and turn to attack you. Php 3:2 Look out for the dogs, look out for the evildoers, look out for those who mutilate the flesh. Rev 22:15 Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and the sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood. Sinners are called dogs for being evil

@casualobserver811

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this. He brought up good points in the video but never actually explained the word "dog" in biblical text. He spoke for nearly 10 min without actually explaining why Jesus called the woman a dog.

@amyqb117

2 жыл бұрын

So interesting! I love bible references to these studies. Thanks for bringing it up

I feel bad for the people who actually believes that progressive theology.

Blasphemy to say that about Jesus. The reverend needs some Jesus!

Thank you so much for sharing this! That is one passage that I have always struggled to understand and now it is perfectly clear to me! I also had to eye roll when he said “speak truth to power” because last year I left the ELCA church I had been a member of my whole life and they said that phrase frequently. Unfortunately, the woke-leftist “theology” has invaded and infested the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America and it has become an abomination with what they teach, preach and support. I am thankful the Lord opened my eyes and pulled me out of that church and set me free to seek His truth and attend an actual Bible believing, truth preaching church as well as listen online to truthful teachings of the Bible. This journey has been a blessed one and I’m so grateful He convicted me and turned me around! 🙏🏻

Wisdom-filled Video. May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you,

Excellent video. I can't help but think progressives interpret Jesus this way because they want him to be this way, not wanting to accept Jesus as he really is.

This "reverend" should be stripped of all power in any church.

There's an alarming rise of blasphemous "revs" sending ppl directly hell bound that takes in these lies to heart. I, sadly enough, had saw this coming years ago.

As a woman I know whom is hardest on me, it’s me. Sometimes it’s my own thoughts that keep me from obeying Gods call in my life. I’m wondering if because Jesus knows our hearts and thoughts that if this wasn’t a personal revelation of who He is to this desperate mother. I do believe as Mike Winger suggests she was on her way to worship and possible pray to her God when becoming aware that Jesus was close. Then I imagine the conversation in her head going something like this as His nearness brought her closer. “Why would Jesus help me? Jews think we are dogs. But maybe even dogs even can eat the crumbs from the table? “ Then as Jesus hears her thoughts and sees her desperation, and reveals Himself by just repeating out loud what she had just thought in her head confirming to her that He is indeed God in human form. The only source of our hope and salvation. I hope that makes sense.

@makeda6530

3 жыл бұрын

That's another great point!

@angeliquemichael228

Жыл бұрын

What a thoughtful interpretation ❤️

"Rule: Never read *a* Bible verse." Coincidentally, I give less verse references these days. At least skim the chapter!

If I ever heard a pastor say something about speaking words to power I would know I was in the wrong church.

This is literally my favorite KZread channel. I crave your vids. So good!

If Robertson is a Reverend then Jeffery Dahmer was a chief. This is the guy whose handling of scripture concluded, and I quote, "polyamorous relationships are sanctified and holy." This isn't anything new.

Daughter great is thy wokeness, your sense of justice has made your daughter well. Oh, wait.

I'm from South Africa... There is a part of me that has wondered if Satan didn't create his own humans as an affront to God. To be a curse on the rest of the world. Certainly feels like that where I'm from..

I’ve seen Mike Winger’s commentary on this guy. There is one snippet he played where this Brandon guy *actually* said that Satan tells the truth and God lies.

@farmercraig6080

3 жыл бұрын

Wow.. really? That’s crazy.

@kymmoore853

3 жыл бұрын

@@farmercraig6080 yep, it was the story of the fall in Genesis. Watch Mike Wingers video on it...I honestly couldn’t believe what I’d heard!

@farmercraig6080

3 жыл бұрын

@@kymmoore853 well I’m sure mike had a good answer for it. Haha

@kymmoore853

3 жыл бұрын

@@farmercraig6080 amen to that 👍🏻

I've been missing your vids

Something I was taught recently, in the Bible you can find passages that will justify anything you want, good or bad, and at the end of the day, what you preach about the Bible is a reflection of yourself more then it is a reflection of the Bible.

“Speak truth to power” is borderline hilarious if this wasn’t such a serious issue.

These kinds of people and these kinds of "arguments" are so insufferable it makes me almost not want to watch the video, if not for the sanity you bring in response to them.

I have been waiting for this one!!!!

Just from what I've seen about "Pastor" Brandon, he's more concerned with propping himself up as better than Jesus than actually saving souls. He's going to regret that if he doesn't repent. Self-righteousness never ends well.

If Jesus had prejudices, then he sinned, and if he sinned he couldn’t die for our sins which means our faith and Christianity as a whole is null and void. So this “reverend” clearly didn’t think that through.

@Red Pen Logic Calling him "reverend" is sketchy at best. I saw this one about a month ago. It made me wonder if he thinks Jesus is God because if he does then he needs to realize then that He is the Creator and it just simply is not possible for him to be a racist.

@Frodojack

3 жыл бұрын

He doesn't. He also rejects Hell entirely and has a lot of doubts about Heaven. Instead of labeling his beliefs "Progressive Christianity" they ought to be "Far-Left Pseudo-Christianity."

@frankstanley8499

3 жыл бұрын

To say jesus is god is astro theology, and idol worship. You miss the whole point.

@steadfastneasy26

3 жыл бұрын

@@frankstanley8499 "You miss the whole point." ..... except that the whole point *IS* that Jesus is God.

@steadfastneasy26

3 жыл бұрын

@@frankstanley8499 ..... and what do you mean by astro theology??

@frankstanley8499

3 жыл бұрын

@@steadfastneasy26 nope Yeashu was just a man pointing a finger to the truth. Instead of looking at what he was talking about christians look at the finger and think it's somthing special. Go do some homework. Christianty is based on sun god worship. Almost all of what paul says is based on the sun. Ilios is the greek word for sun. It's pronounced Jesus. The whole religon is also based on human sacrifice, and vicarious atonement. It's idol worship and blood based Magick. It has ritualistic cannibalism in the form of communication. To say jesus is god is to say that the sun is God.

I was waiting for this video 😂

Jesus used a racial slur? Based.

THIS is why preachers are needed.

Brandon Robertson is the type of Christian who probably can’t argue with an Atheist

@WhereWhatHuh

3 жыл бұрын

I don't believe that the man is truly a Christian: I think he just uses Jesus as a prop for his own views.

@christimacc

3 жыл бұрын

Except he's not a Christian.

That Tik Tok clown gets up and tells people that Jesus approves of not only polygamy, but polyandry. What's more, he even uses the word HOLY to describe such relationships.

Lest we forget it was the Jews who lost their way the most, would mock God and build statues of and worship false Gods in his place, and even after all that, God *Still* welcomed them into the Kingdom of Heaven because they had repented and showed a change of heart.

@christopheredwards9904

Жыл бұрын

3:07 I thought it was 500 demons who were casted into a herd of Pigs? Could it be a different story?

And this is why we need the Holy Inquisition again

I recently watched a sermon of this progressive reverend and my jaw just dropped listening to it in just utter shock. How much he twists the scriptures is insane.... He's completely redefining everything. He talked about how in the garden of Eden God was the one being deceptive and the serpent was the truthful and honest one !!!! What!? I couldn't believe what I was listening to

@boxwoodgreen

2 жыл бұрын

This is just a tiny part of the explosion in the demonic attack on the faith. It is a "sign of the times". Pray for discernment in the people this man speaks to. And rejoice in the knowledge that it means our Yeshua (salvation) is at the door.

@christislord4608

2 жыл бұрын

I am pretty sure that "reverent" is not a believer. But a wokist who tries to undermine Christianity.