So Raidou also has the power of having his cape blow menacingly in the wind even while indoors

@travisoliver6741

3 жыл бұрын

They're actually outside right now.

@nier133

Жыл бұрын

bruh they're outside :/

@Kira22558

Жыл бұрын

Yes.

Dante: So, where would you want to die? A coffin or a dumpster? Gotou: bE CarEfUl RaIdoU, dOn'T HurT hIM ToO BAd.

@user-ux5qz6sj7e

5 жыл бұрын

Dante: This is getting good! You're having fun, aren't you? Me too! Gouto: This Demi Fiend is pretty tough customer...

@LuckiSir

4 жыл бұрын

Imagine if they re-release SMT3, you reach this point and then... _Dante drops from the roof_ _Raidou runs up the stairs_

@etheriousnatsudragneel83

4 жыл бұрын

@@LuckiSir *instant* *kill* .....

@abidalmohimenrashed4524

4 жыл бұрын

@@LuckiSir Top 10 Anime Battles

@kingoflions827

4 жыл бұрын

@@LuckiSir Id pay good money for a double dante and raidou battle. Ill even sell my soul to lucifer if they give Dante pierce

Imagine they pull a complete 180 on us in the HD Remaster, You walk into the room and you almost get sliced to pieces immediately, Then you hear a somewhat nasally voice say; "Hmp, this is the so called Demi-Fiend? Very well. THEN YOU SHALL KNOW THIS DEVIL'S POWER!" *FEATURING VERGIL FROM THE DEVIL MAY CRY SERIES*

@samuraibeatzz

3 жыл бұрын

Dick would explode

@someclevername8167

3 жыл бұрын

JUDGMENT NUT END

@crgaming8102

3 жыл бұрын

Just Imagine you go in and see a man in Black armor with a gigantic sword staying there his back turned towards you. As you approach he turns and aims with his right hand and shoots a cannonball from it. Then he cries:"DEMI FIEND!!!" And attacks you with that iron Dragonslayer... *Featuring Guts from the Berserk-Series*

@NrXJupiter

3 жыл бұрын

i dont think ive ever not laughed at something so hard in my life

@gabrieldevoogel6225

3 жыл бұрын

NOW IM MOTIVATED

00:12 I found Demi-fiend's slight jolt hilarious for some reason lol

@user-ek2xg3ps5s

4 жыл бұрын

@Nati indeed

@lynk172

3 жыл бұрын

Demi-fiend was like "Huh...? A Mokoi?"

@t-universegamer7609

3 жыл бұрын

@@lynk172 He wouldnt know that, tho, not a demon in Nocturne. I guess it'd be something more along the lines of "Who's this little bastard?"

@chozolady

3 жыл бұрын

Naoki got spooked !

@acecanti4175

3 жыл бұрын

He does it in the final cutscene in the tde as well. It's funny as hell

And now we can do this in HD on the go!

@changsiah2

4 жыл бұрын

I can't wait for everyone to go like "who is this guy and why isn't Dante here?"

@entermatestar9116

4 жыл бұрын

@@changsiah2 oh i know who he is, doesnt mean ill ever play devil summoner, shits boring

@Kevin97049

4 жыл бұрын

@김과도 Rest in RIP. At least SMT V won't be, I hope.

@Kevin97049

4 жыл бұрын

@김과도 thnx, you too

@miraculousmaku3584

3 жыл бұрын

@@entermatestar9116 shut up

Funny thing is, Wiki states that Boogie-Woogie is undodgeable. Both as an enemy and a summonable ally, yet I dodge the move here. Maybe that should be updated?

@eavyeavy2864

4 жыл бұрын

Wiki delete my sandbox. Practically facist.

@christopherduley8240

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe stop being good at the game?

@youraveragesub

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe the wiki should change that to "undodgeable unless enemy spams sukukaja"

@Sad-Lesbian

3 жыл бұрын

Boogie-Woogie is dodgable, just like Dante's E&I. It's Yoshitsune Show-Up that's undodgable, just like Dante's Rebellion.

@GolDLocz

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sad-Lesbian Yes, but at one point in time the wiki had listed it as a skill you could not dodge. It has since been updated.

Imagine Raidou's theme playing during this fight.

@nr2676

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe ATLUS add that OST in patch like NEW MANUAL FUSION SYSTEM in 1.02 :)

Good lord he kept missing.

@wulf2863

6 жыл бұрын

Akira Otoishi so much evasion xd

@ziro6319

4 жыл бұрын

buffs people. doesn't matter how much you up your defense or lower his offense. If he keeps missing like a dope

@ziro6319

4 жыл бұрын

@Firion Al'Hade I know all that. I'm just saying debuffing accuracy is probably the best one since missing negates damage entirely and steals turns

Damn they couldn't even be bothered to change the battle music even though they have all the Devil Summoner songs on-hand?

@LollipopWNoChainsaw

4 жыл бұрын

Guess we gotta do it ourselves. I mean, it's not that hard to disassemble the game's rom, find the track, replace it and assemble the rom again, is it?

@HYDEinallcaps

4 жыл бұрын

It makes sense, though. Dante has the Devil Trigger, Raidou has the ASPECT RAIDOU.

@FireMinstrel

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I came looking for this clip to see if they'd changed the battle music for something original. I do think this is the best track in the game, but I guess I'm greedy.

@lowhp_comic

4 жыл бұрын

If they ever rerelease this I hope this is one adjustment they definitely make

@PLANTBAT

4 жыл бұрын

I agree with you, but this song is good.

Since SMT3 HD got announced, and there's no sign of Dante... Looks like we'll be getting an official English release for this fight.

@GolDLocz

4 жыл бұрын

I am extremely excited to see it. The trailer included voices so I don't know if the final product will have them as well. In all honesty I would prefer no voices in Nocturne, but that's just me.

@shincadad7622

4 жыл бұрын

You’ll probably be able to turn off voices in the HD version

@flynnyoba6175

4 жыл бұрын

Hopefully they'll change the music. This is Dante's theme! Give Raidou something from his games!

@Plotpurotto

4 жыл бұрын

Valastor Thera apparently voice acting is gonna be a thing in nocturne HD remaster!

@jedahaw

4 жыл бұрын

@@GolDLocz Raidou will be voiced by young Joseph Joestar, Gotou will be voiced by Kotomine Kirei. They have confirmed that voices can be switched off in the settings. (In a magazine interview.)

Boogie Woogie 2: Electric Boogaloo! -> *still misses*

How do you make up for the hype of Dante's badass entrance? Get a Mokoi hype man apparently.

@Daniel_Coffman

4 жыл бұрын

That reference to the name of the Raidou Kuzunoha games was funny! I'd love to see more Fourth Wall breaks like that in silly scenes!

@JayAreAitch

4 жыл бұрын

@@Daniel_Coffman It's not that much of a break. It makes sense in-universe to say it like that.

Hoping Raidou and Dante appear in SMT5, when it eventually releases in 2094

@CrimsonKnightmare1

4 жыл бұрын

@@Kanzuki because all games should feature dante from the devil may cry series

@dariustheos-king447

4 жыл бұрын

@@Kanzuki Well he is in the demon world again after DMC 5 soo.. plus even the mobile SMT Dx2 has Dante. They could figure something out. But dante isnt a big deal for me.

@theazureknight9399

4 жыл бұрын

@@Kanzuki Why not tho? A harmless cameo by Dante wouldn't harm SMT5 in the slightest. On the contrary, it would bring in more fans and make the game more popular. And mainline SMT desperstely needs it with Persona apparently taking over Atlus more and more with each succesfull release. Seriously, just look at how many Persona games and how many SMT games have been released over the last 10 years. And no, Persona is not a subseries of SMT, they only added the moniker in the western release.

@Venom3254

4 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't be surprised if Bayonetta is featured

@radripper2850

4 жыл бұрын

It'd be funny if The reason SMT V is taking so long is because they're doing some sort of crossover, SymbioteNx379 mentioned Bayonetta and that would be really cool

Apparently Raidou accidentally kills the Demi-Fiend in the SMT IV timeline; kinda hilarious

@jaredolives1578

4 жыл бұрын

Where did you hear that?

@dhikan4n031

4 жыл бұрын

demi-fiend killed by Lucifer in their final showdown.

@rockpaul12

4 жыл бұрын

@@dhikan4n031 in apocalypse timeline all messiahs fails. Even aleph

@faultyvideos2215

4 жыл бұрын

@@rockpaul12 aside from Hideto (Megaten 2 protag), Aleph, and MAYBE Demi-fiend and Abel (if you count Abel as a messiah even though he isn't mainline) dont all messiahs technically fail? Their ultimate goal is to kill YHVH, who's basically god. Aside from the 4 previously mentioned, it isnt even IMPLIED that they kill god. They just, straight up dont.

@maohemu262

4 жыл бұрын

It was Lucifer who killed him mid true demon ending

I really struggled with dante my first time specifically because he never misses so to see raidou only miss hurts lmao

@av4960

4 жыл бұрын

@Nero Metal buffs my dude, buffs.

@av4960

4 жыл бұрын

@Nero Metal Yee, but in terms of the fight via in-game, buffs make the fight much easier.

Now if only we had a re-master of this game which this scene is the exact same, but suddenly they both look up at the building. "There you are fiend. Let's see how strong you are." Red jacket-wearing figure jumps from building landing between the two. "Sorry for Crashing this little shindig of yours. I hope you don't mind me bringing some party Favors." Points ebony in the direction of the Devil Summoner and Ivory at the Demi-Fiend.

@duwangkira5512

4 жыл бұрын

A 3-way rpg fight would be interesting

@CapSodaPop

4 жыл бұрын

Great news: The game, specifically Maniax Chronicles Edition, gets the remaster for PS4 and Switch. Come check out Atlus' channel or today's Nintendo Direct.

@hundredfaye618

4 жыл бұрын

Looks like your wish just came true.

Featuring Raidou from the Shin Megami Tensei series!

Raidou: "Round 4 bitch"

What kind of attack move is boogie woogie

@baconman6260

5 жыл бұрын

Raul Ibarra it is an odd name for just shooting his gun.

@averageral3192

5 жыл бұрын

It made sense for Dante cause his guns are called ebony and Ivory hence his move called E&I but why raidou called his boogie woogie

@paperthedegenerate6279

5 жыл бұрын

Most likely the gun was shot at the feet of demons making them dance silly out of fear

@baconman6260

5 жыл бұрын

Paper The Degenerate that actually makes since you use it to stun them

@lucylu3342

4 жыл бұрын

"Here's my special attack, called the Moonwalk!" *Takes out a gun*

Thanks for the English version of this scene. I don't have that one so I actually battled Dante. Personally, I like them both so I won't be bitching about who's better; although out of the three the Demi-Fiend is pretty goddamn powerful.

@GolDLocz

6 жыл бұрын

No problem :). Planning on uploading the other scenes with Raidou and his after credits report as well. Both Raidou and Dante are awesome characters in their own ways, though personally I prefer Raidou being in Nocturne just because MegaTen :P

@FocusedFighter777

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah that too.

@sonofthunder7069

6 жыл бұрын

Great screen name Megido Doll. I'm English and going to play this game for the first time. Other than the Dante & Raidou switch up are there any other changes? I'm leaning towards the English Shin Megami Nocturne version. I know the version you posted is English patched but I'm guessing that is fan translated. I also understand they have a Europe version called: Lucifers Call. From what I understand Lucifers call is just the English version of Nocturne without any difference other than the name. Anyway I'm just not sure which version to play for the first time. Thanks for any help and love your video. Subscribed.

@WinterFox1000

6 жыл бұрын

other then Raidou Replacing Dante there aren't many other changes but one important thing to know (assuming you plan to get the True Demon ending.) Is that Raidou has the pierce ability while Dante does not, and if you aim to have an easier time with Lucifer or you know, wan't to do more then 50 damage, your going to wan't pierce. Its sad because Dante is so bad ass that I kept him in my party anyway, even though he was only doing about 150 damage at most while the rest of my party was hitting for about 900+

@PussPussGaming

4 жыл бұрын

@@sonofthunder7069 Late as all hell, but in addition Raidou being able to pierce while Dante can't, the TDE ending has an additional scene of Raidou going back to his universe and reporting on what happened. It's not much but it is a neat attention to detail for a re-release.

Fucking awesome 🤘 I would love a remaster of this... sadly I know that ... will never happen

@omar94747

4 жыл бұрын

This aged well

@santus07

4 жыл бұрын

@@omar94747 amazing 😂

@ivanaugustobd

Жыл бұрын

Actually..

@santus07

Жыл бұрын

@@ivanaugustobd I Made it happen lol 🤣

In my fight he just kept spamming yoshitsune and it never misses even after raising evasion to max with sukukaja

@yu_1820

4 жыл бұрын

That attack is undodgeable

@airbornezombie7655

2 жыл бұрын

@@yu_1820 except it is

*_B O O G I E - W O O G I E_*

Imagine if instead of Dante battle theme it was Formidable foe.

Explain why the gun move is called boogie woogie

@mariagalleriaxi8632

3 жыл бұрын

Because it's near the end of the roaring 20s in Raidou’s era so it's ~quirky~ lingo

@Brainwave101

3 жыл бұрын

Gouto's catchphrase in the original games is "Let's get our boogie on Raidou!"

did he land a single boogie woogie this entire fight lmao

It's kinda jarring for Atlus to not change the introduction music for Raidou since the one in both games has DMC3's motif prominently featured and kinda makes the entire scene feel weird.

1:34 Huh, so Raidou's gun can be dodged while Dante's E&I is undodgeable. Interesting difference.

@aleksandernainggolan8606

4 жыл бұрын

as you can see, no one can dodge Raidou's Yoshitsune

@lynk172

3 жыл бұрын

@@aleksandernainggolan8606 huh...the law of Equal Exchange

00:25 Kinda wish it was a thing, but oh well...

@lynk172

3 жыл бұрын

Well...

@LollipopWNoChainsaw

3 жыл бұрын

@@lynk172 well... YES, but... actually no. *dante screams in dlc*

Talk about badass

All according to the plan....

Boogie-Woogie

Somehow I just have a feeling that bayonetta 3 is going come out in just a few months after smt3 release. And you will see her design that comes out in 3.

Is Raidou suit resemblance to police officr or detective?

@GolDLocz

6 жыл бұрын

More or less a Detective.

@AzureKite619

5 жыл бұрын

Naoto Shirogane may as well be his daughter lmao

@chm877

5 жыл бұрын

Apart from the cape and various demon summoning/slaying equipment, it's basically a standard Gakuren - a Japanese male school uniform. It's no surprise it looks similar to a police uniform though - the Gakuren is derivative of the military uniform worn by modernised armies only some years before Raidou's game's are set, and police uniform of the time had a very similar, if not identical style to military uniforms (other than colour) at the time.

@rdu239

5 жыл бұрын

@@GolDLocz Kang Ha Dong from Knowing Brothers, obviously imitate his looks

@LollipopWNoChainsaw

4 жыл бұрын

@FBI Alypstick kuzunoha is a title, not his actual 2nd name. We only know that his 1st name is Jouhei, so... YEA, "JOUHEI SHIROGANE" SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT. GONNA CALL HIM THAT WHEN I GET MY HANDS ON DEVIL SUMMONER.

I seem to be having some trouble with the patch, when ever I try to patch the iso all it does it create another file, doesn't seem to actually patch the iso

@GolDLocz

6 жыл бұрын

If I remember correct, the new file it creates is the patched iso, have you tried booting up the one it creates?

@WinterFox1000

6 жыл бұрын

yeah but the file it made wasn't an iso, though I did get it working in the end, just took about 3 attempts. But hey I'm up to Forneus and everything seems to be checking out okay, graphics in the game are just a bit wonky, everything is either see through or textures are overlapping (thats probably just the emulator though)

@GolDLocz

6 жыл бұрын

Rendering the game in Hardware mode caused me to have transparent textures and such. Switching over to Software mode fixed this issue, but it does cause the video to become compressed, as if you're actually running the game on a PS2.

@WinterFox1000

6 жыл бұрын

well that certainly sounds better then the see through textures (though I do have to wonder if it would make the kawain segment a breeze >w>) anyway thanks for the tip, got the true demon ending on the original game though I was a bit upset they give you Dante when he can hardly do jack all to Lucifer himself, though I heard its a rather different story with Raidou

@GolDLocz

6 жыл бұрын

Fun fact, you can use your normal saves with the Maniax Chronicles edition, so you don't have to start a fresh game in order to get Raidou.

And now with voice acting.

All these fake smt fans saying nocturne isnt shit without dante.... i couldnt give to fucks about dante, i would rather have my boy raidou

It's both hilarious and kind of sad how obviously they had to paint over Dante's moves for this fight.

@sladejosephwilson2300

2 жыл бұрын

They didn't paint him over. They just reused the same animation

I also used taraka in this fight :)

Not gonna lie, Dante fits the tone of the game way more

@Shiratto

4 жыл бұрын

I’m curious to see how they explain Raidou surviving the Conception. In the strategy guide they mention that Dante lived because of his demon half.

@ArkayneShad0w

4 жыл бұрын

@@Shiratto couldn't he just come to the universe after the conception occurs? Raidou doesn't have to survive the conception, he's from a different universe anyways

@hahalery

3 жыл бұрын

@@Shiratto raidou is from another universe. He just happen to travel to this tokyo after the conception because reasobs

So Who else got recommended this after the Direct?

@changsiah2

4 жыл бұрын

I can't wait for everyone to go like "who is this guy and why isn't Dante here?"

I feel stupid now thought Chronicles was additional DLC for HD Remaster

Yeah, sure. Dante is cool, but Raidou is just as cool. *Quit fighting!*

@av4960

4 жыл бұрын

@Nero Metal damn, what's your problem?

@av4960

4 жыл бұрын

@Nero Metal How mature.

So, yeah, you gotta deal with Dante from the Devil May Cry series...

The best Raidou fight is soul hackers in my opinion because I found it harder than Demi fiend in DDS

Wait, is this game unmodded outside of the translation? Raidou’s wiki page states that Boogie-Woogie is undodgeable but this video clearly shows otherwise

@GolDLocz

3 жыл бұрын

Other than the translation the game is untouched, it seems that the wiki is indeed wrong about the accuracy of the skill. Probably should have someone go in and fix this.

@luciandust2355

3 жыл бұрын

Valastor Thera Alright, wild. I’ve contributed to Wikis before so I can probably go over and change that tidbit sometime tomorrow morning.

@TARINunit9

3 жыл бұрын

Boogie-Woogie is obviously NOT undogable. In Dante's moveset the move is called Ebony&Ivory, which is also NOT undodgeable

name of the theme before the fight?

You can inject SMT:Nocturne into ps4 (via ps2 remaster)... but this particular translation crashes! Valkyrie Profile 2 doesn't work right either. :(

@projectmessiah

5 жыл бұрын

what do you mean by inject

@IdeonFukkatsu

5 жыл бұрын

@@projectmessiah So, if you have a hacked ps4, you can take a ps2 classic, remove the original and swap any other ps2 game into the container and run it. Very high success rate.

@projectmessiah

5 жыл бұрын

@@IdeonFukkatsu thanks

The only one who speaks is a cat. ^^ I looking forward to the remake!

@pastyIe

3 жыл бұрын

Gouto isn't a simple cat however. He takes the form of a cat, but is actually Radiou's advisor. Much like Morgana but a lot better and more likeable.

@Sad-Lesbian

3 жыл бұрын

It's a reference to how almost all MegaTen protags don't speak, including Raidou in his own games. Instead Gouto does the speaking here. Also, Gouto is way more than just a speaking cat, but going into details would be spoilers for the Raidou games

Soon to be me: Uh where is Dante?

@changsiah2

4 жыл бұрын

same go with everyone

@rextx6313

3 жыл бұрын

Me from the future: Good News!

His entrance theme?

Pretty cool. Still like it with Dante more but would love to fight Raidou. If they remake it, hope they give the choice for either.

@Green-Raccoon777

5 жыл бұрын

Why not have both in your party?

@CarbyGuuGuu

4 жыл бұрын

Well, the remaster got announced. But only Raidou will be in it, Capcom might have asked for more money to include Dante so Atlus passed on it.

@Shiratto

4 жыл бұрын

Carbuncle from Puyo Puyo | Or Atlus just didn’t care to ask in the first place.

@CarbyGuuGuu

4 жыл бұрын

Jet Kazama No, it’s definitely a licensing issue. Featuring characters not owned by the company costs money. Depending on the popularity of the IP, it would be more expensive if the character was super popular. In this case, Dante is well known in the West. So Capcom would be asking quite a lot.

What’d you do to get it in English?

@GolDLocz

4 жыл бұрын

You can apply a patch to the ISO to make it english, link is in the description.

Wait , I thought he faces Dante here ? Is this the Japanese version patched with English translation , or is that an alternate route in the story ?

@RushValentine

4 жыл бұрын

This is the updated rerelease of Nocturne. Pretty much Raidou replaces Dante in the game.

@CarbyGuuGuu

4 жыл бұрын

When the license expired, Atlus decided to include one of their own characters to take his place in later versions of SMT3.

In this version they don put the chase part??

@GolDLocz

3 жыл бұрын

It's still in the game, just with Raidou instead.

Hey has anyone realized that raidou is a persona user but with demons seriously he uses them just like personas he’s also a wild card too why has no one said anything about this?

@Parth1713

4 жыл бұрын

Raidou is a Devil Summoner. He keeps the demons in a tube and usually takes them out to help in investigations. He's quite chill with demons, actually. Personas basically tie into your characteristics, and only summoned with a special mean. Summoning Demons for Raidou, you can say, is a second nature to him.

@CarbyGuuGuu

4 жыл бұрын

Raidou is a Devil Summoner, his games are literally titled “Devil Summoner”.

@ridwana4037

4 жыл бұрын

Raidou on new fans eyes: Raidou on His first game: LOL. You're just a persona user. Raidou on His second game: Gee, Raidou, how come Atlus lets you have 2 demons out together?

@changsiah2

4 жыл бұрын

@@ridwana4037 real ver: wtf is this guy, he is not dante

@glitchman1272

3 жыл бұрын

Depending on what route you take in Raidou Devil Summoner 2 it sets the stage for either mainline SMT or Persona

boogie woogie

@ZephyrFate

4 жыл бұрын

@Nero Metal boogie woogie

I love raidou but its not the same seeing Dante willingly jump 100+ floors of a building and land unscathed to then point a gun directly at demi fiend. Talk about an entrance

Man I hate the battle theme though. I remembering starting this version hoping for a remix of Raidou's battle theme and getting Dante's copy and pasted. I dunno, kinda disappointing.

Wont lie. I like dante more, but this guy is still pretty cool. Looks like we'll be getting a official English fight for this guy to thanks to the new hd version coming, sweet

@frozone1669

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure if you played any of the raidou games but he's a badass, I'd just as cool as Dante in his own right

@blitz4779

4 жыл бұрын

@@frozone1669 no I have not but I know hes badass. I just like dante alot

1:35 raidou can’t aim for shit

Why did he replace Dante

@patrickschulz2193

4 жыл бұрын

In all likelihood, the original Dante cameo contract didn't cover updated re-releases of the game. Besides that, it was also a good opportunity for them to advertise Raidou's games - one of which came bundled with this release.

@ipetris86

4 жыл бұрын

Because thety are too lazy to bring back dante and replace by the boring and silent detective raidou,a very bad decicion if you ask me

@ipetris86

4 жыл бұрын

​@@jankeeuwu All of them are lazy,just like the only theme tsunami bomb of disgaea hour of darkness.Atlus released the game for the rest of the console´s but that great theme from the trailer and the chapter 5 from the first game only remain in the first version of ps2

@BlueMageDaisen

4 жыл бұрын

@@ipetris86 Atlus didn't make Disgaea

Wait, is that morgana?

@RinaShinomiyaVal

3 жыл бұрын

...thats Gouto...

@FTW1230

3 жыл бұрын

@@RinaShinomiyaVal you're being whooshed my friend.

@catmilk4832

3 жыл бұрын

morgna persona5

@Sad-Lesbian

3 жыл бұрын

The cooler Morgana

Raidou is a baller, but this game isnt shit without Dante

Isn't it a bit of a BS that they gave this character, Raidou any form of practicality in the game while when they had Dante in the 2nd release of SMT3 Nocturne Maniax he barely have any usefulness? Making me to have an opinion that they just added/featured Dante in the 2nd Maniax just for the sake of being there so the game could sell a lot. In other words, Dante got wasted by Atlus in their game, and they made him to just be as merch/selling point for it. Ironic, what a joke of the century

@Leticia-qq5ej

4 жыл бұрын

Raidou was added after Dante, so they probably saw that Dante wasn’t as useful, specially against Lucifer and fixed that for Raidou

@shadedergu9921

4 жыл бұрын

Canonically Raidou is supposed to accidentally kill the Demi-Fiend for SMT IV to happen, so he is kinda meant to be the one from the timeline perspective; though Dante was pretty wasted

@si-level

4 жыл бұрын

Why people says that Dante isn't useful? I use him a lot for random encounter. Honestly if he not there i can't finish nocturne on hard mode lmao because annoying enemy with high critical. Level up Dante from 80 to 89 and he just one level behind from MC lmao. He is very useful!

@The_WIll_OF_D99

4 жыл бұрын

@@shadedergu9921 dude that outcome is not even canon🤣 That literally makes no sense in hindsight when Demi-fiend ending is canon when he joins Lucifer to Fight God. The thing in SMT4 AP is what if the protagonist fails like at the end of the DLC you even see Demi talk about his showdown with him after they beat the boss in SMT4AP Lol, you can't say canonical if what you described is what is supposed to happen if said characters did not succeed in their path.

@shadedergu9921

4 жыл бұрын

@@The_WIll_OF_D99 Daimion Have you played an SMTsona game? Outside of P3 and P5 dancing everything is canon *including the DLC*. I think you should play SMT4A again and read the DLC description. Hell, not every SMT title is even on the same timeline; that's why there are multiple endings Demi-Fiend getting whacked by Raidou is canonical for SMT4A Then again, that description is basically the everything is canonical route, but specifically for SMT4A it is what was canon for that; that and we also know that regardless of if he gets whacked then or not he still fails to beat god (thanks Digital Devil Saga); where the true Demon Ending is tied to that game It is stupid in hindsight, but as is the time Shenanigans of PQ and how ridiculous tracing paths between each SMT game can be (including spin offs). Also sorry if I came across as harsh starting this reply; it just is funny sometimes with franchises like SMT or Drakengard where basically every ending (and even ones not featured) are canon and some people forget that.

Tf why Morgana is here?

@donaldpowell44

4 жыл бұрын

Megaten has a lot of black cats

@moondelics

4 жыл бұрын

Fuck off