This is top shelf lore exploration! Mind blown multiple times.

@JapaneseGames007

5 ай бұрын

Thanks❤️

Absolutely incredible mind blowing research on my favorite Final Fantasy. Loved this so much! Great job!

@JapaneseGames007

4 ай бұрын

Thanks!

I think this explanation removes the need for the Rinoa = Ultimecia theory to explain the story. Rinoa and Squall are only humans, but they are similar to the two halves of Hyne. Just like Hyne needs to fuse with a human, Squall and Rinoa try to live apart, but they're meant to be together. When Rinoa is in a coma, Squall carries her a great distance, basically becoming her legs. When Squall is lost in compressed time, he can't find his way and loses his strength. Then it's Rinoa who has to carry him, using her wings. I always loved this game but much of the story was hard for me to understand, especially as a kid. Thank you so much for this video.

Good theory. I have theorized before that the shadow in Obel lake was related to hyne because he was saying something about a village in centra but it was only ruins. And that the ''Power'' sorceress needed to pass to ''survive'' was Hyne's other half.

@JapaneseGames007

Ай бұрын

I think that is a possible hypothesis. By the way, I got an interesting hypothesis from this comment section. The theory is that "Golbez", who appears in FF4, and "Zebarga", who is thought to be the upper body of the Ultima Weapon, are the same person. The alphabet of Zebarga has not been made public, but Golbez written backwards becomes Zebarga, and both are people associated with the moon. However, I think it's unlikely that Zebarga & Golbez are the same person, and I think the naming was just a playful choice on the part of the production staff（Haha）

Very well done, lots of new things I learned from this video.

Fantastic video. Thanks for the effort you put in to making this, it deserves a lot more views.

@JapaneseGames007

5 ай бұрын

Thank you. It was really difficult to make videos related to FFVIII & Xenogears (Haha). But I thought these two stories were the most wonderful, so I did my best.

That was an amazing and very logical breakdown of very few clues the game has about Hyne. Somehow it just clicks very well. Makes one wonder if this was somehow intended by the ones in charge of worldbuilding for FF8. Very subtle winks and nods like the moon stone being very observable during the battle with Ultima Weapon or the fact that there is any lore at all about Hyne is just screaming that this could very well be true. Most mysterious indeed.

The world building is weird (not you but FF8). Because initally you have a different concept, perspective and visualisation of Hyne. But as you trailblazed through the newly aquired information, It started to change the aforementioned. In the end I do agree... This Hyne, was the ruler of the Moon. Or atleast fought for the position and won, as it said in the lore (not specifically but generally). I was initially thinking it was GFs besides the monsters on the moon (origins story of that lol?), it was fighting. Before watching this video, l thought the love story element was also with Hyne aka creator of humans. And that being split itself for different reasons and journey's but eventually fated to find each other and reunite (similar to V and Demon Vergil in DMC5), as one or in matrimony. So, I was thinking Rinoa being the upper and Squall being the lower and eventually coming together as one, due to their Love. This would kinda reflect with Ultimacia (Rinoa/upper) junctioning (attaching) to Griever (Squall/lower) and why they were fated is because of them being hijacked by hyne. But then I watched your video and Hyne wasn't so benevolent but quite malevolent lol. I wonder whats beyond the Moon as it seems the place for where there was no time etc? Is those Island in FF8; Hell on Earth is it called? Any connections to this whole theory as an adjunct of the Tears of the Moon? Thanks for the excellent video. As a kid, none of this was really apparent lol.

@JapaneseGames007

5 ай бұрын

As a side note, boss characters reminiscent of "Hyne" appear in the games "Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon 2" and "PERSONA3". If you are interested, please take a look (Haha).

@Shiyoken

5 ай бұрын

@@JapaneseGames007 The one from Bloodstained is uncanny... Sariel, right? There has to be something to these designs with real life lore, myths, and legends of the ancient past. And Persona is the Magnus enemies or Phantom Master? I'm not to sure lol. In PSO2 Sodam (last boss) also has resemblances.

@atresaoxxx3573

4 ай бұрын

@@JapaneseGames007that’s funny you mention Persona 3. I felt there are a lot similarities with Persona 3 and FFVIII but couldn’t really explain it.

@JapaneseGames007

4 ай бұрын

It may be difficult to concisely summarize and clearly discuss the similarities between Persona 3 and FFVIII.

3 Things: 1) This video is incredible. 2) Hyne is clearly Ymir, the Founding Titan. Wait…oops. 3) Did I mention this video was amazing? Subbed. Seriously though, awesome. I enjoyed FF8 when it came out when I was 14-15, but I didn’t quite grasp its amazing narrative and themes until far later upon further play through a, and this just brought back all that nostalgia and through-provoking ideas. Thank you! 🙂 PS. 4) Headmaster Cid is, and was, a lucky man. Because even 14-year-old me was like “daaaaamn…Edea is bad, in all the best ways…” 😅😊

@JapaneseGames007

6 ай бұрын

Thanks! ...Ymir（Haha）

all your videos are so good. thanks for making them!!! i hope you keep it up for a long time.

@JapaneseGames007

10 ай бұрын

Thanks! I'm planning to make time and do it steadily ♪

Great video! Could the upper body of Ultima Weapon (Zebalga) be Golbez from FF4? If spelled backwards, "Golbez" becomes "Zeblog", which sounds a little bit like "Zebalga"...Could both words be anadromes in japanese? 🤔 When the old man in Balamb tells the story of Hyne to his grandchild, there's a picture of a whale in the background...If Zebalga is Golbez...Could that be a reference to the Lunar Whale in FF4? 🤔

@JapaneseGames007

2 ай бұрын

I had never thought of that hypothesis, but it's an interesting one! Anagrams where the letters of a name are turned upside down are a common practice in the FF series, so I don't think the possibility of that hypothesis is zero. By the way, FF7 REBIRTH also had an anagram that turned the name upside down.

This is well thought out and the closest I've seen someone go into detail of Hyne. I'm down with believing this theory! But I do have a question; what are your thoughts on Omega Weapon (found in Ultimecia's castle)? It's a reskin of Ultima but without the sword, but it uses strong magic attacks as oppose to physical attacks.

@JapaneseGames007

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for comment. I often get questions about Omega Weapon, but there is too little information to determine what Omega Weapon is. The description that appears when you use "Scan" says, "Don't know why this is here," so I think SQUARE introduced Omega Weapon as a "Mysterious life form".

I will edit this when I come back to it. It's hard to say I am the biggest fan of this game ever, but I have spent the majority of mny life steep in this game. I know the insides, outisdes etc. I will edit after watching, as I have seen, heard everything there is, whilst playing it every year since it's release.

@JapaneseGames007

4 ай бұрын

FFVIII isn't very popular in Japan, so I'd be happy if people from other countries would say that♪

Excellent video, great analysis, I'm truly tempted to believe the same thing ! What about Omega wepaon though in this case ?

@JapaneseGames007

6 ай бұрын

Thanks. The identity of Omega wepaon can be speculated on in many ways, but it is difficult to mention because there is no element that narrows it down to a single guess...

I played through FF8 twice and i'ce never heard of this Hyne?

@JapaneseGames007

6 ай бұрын

The few information about Hyne is found in trivial lines & official book entries.

this is truly the greatest i've ever watched with regards to FF8

@JapaneseGames007

7 ай бұрын

Thank you for comment. I also love FF8!

@erwinadrados4747

2 ай бұрын

@@JapaneseGames007 do you have inputs as well on omega weapon? is he the empty shell hyne on Ultimecia's timeline? like what is the correlation of ringing the bells to summon him compared to summoning Ultima weapon using gravity pull from the moon. :)

@JapaneseGames007

2 ай бұрын

I think Omega weapon is probably depicted as a mysterious entity. Looking at the explanatory text that appears when using Scan, I think that SQUARE is probably intentionally depicted as an unknown entity.

@erwinadrados4747

2 ай бұрын

@@JapaneseGames007 i see thanks for your inputs 😊

I'd always thought Empty Hyne was Odin A physical Beat Stick that doesn't use magic just Powerful Hits (ohko zantetsuken)

@JapaneseGames007

3 ай бұрын

Interesting hypothesis ♪

In this case what would the explanation for omega weapon be? If nobody ever defeated ultima weapon and it increased in strength until the time squall and co reach ultimecias castle? It could be the same entity just at a later date? Or ultima weapon from an alternate reality? Whatever the case it's a loose end because ultima weapon and omega weapon would have to be connected in this theory.

@JapaneseGames007

6 ай бұрын

You are certainly right. But, since Ultimecia (Hyne) has an ability called "Relativity", it is difficult to narrow down reasoning to just one. Also, since there is no information to narrow down my speculations, I have given up on the identity of Omega Weapon at this point...

Let me voice over for you

@JapaneseGames007

3 күн бұрын

Sorry, I'm a Japanese person who can't speak English. I have no choice but to use the robot voice. I'm trying to learn English, but it's difficult...

Imagine how much more engaging this would be with audio???? Text moves too fast… can we collab and I’ll generate a voice track for this video???? 📈📈

Hyne isn't specified as a female in the game.

@JapaneseGames007

5 ай бұрын

Well, I don't think there is a concept of gender.