The tundra storm buffs allows him to catch drive reversal which mean there is at least one obscure context where it could be intentionally considered

Thinking about it, Zangief doesn’t have specials to cancel into on block, so they made his normals do as much as other character’s special cancels. You should peep his meter gain on landing EX atomic suplex, it’s 65% of a bar

@Aggrofool

Ай бұрын

I mean neither does Manon, all her cancel-into specials are super unsafe on block.

@lucaslennan3356

Ай бұрын

​@@AggrofoolShe can cancel into a low or overhead as a mixup whenever she wants though, which is slightly better than Lariat and nothing else. She has way more tools than Zangief, they just also happen to bad in other ways.

@Aggrofool

Ай бұрын

@@lucaslennan3356 The low and OH are not better since on block opponents will get massive PC combo. Manon pros will almost never cancel to either in tournaments, see the VODs for yourself. Regardless, having no safe special cancels is not unique to Zangief.

i did not realize how much drive chip he does on block now wow

@Aggrofool

Ай бұрын

I lose a fkton of drive meter just from blocking his MK and DR Wheel Kick. It's insane.

3:37 the OD version of running grab only goes faster when absorbing an attack

@Bafael

Ай бұрын

Oops! I should have showed it doing that but I was lazy and didn't want to switch my opponent to someone like sim

@andrewskey3379

Ай бұрын

@@Bafael gotcha. I just didn’t want new gief players thinking they could start run grabbing online in neutral all willy nilly lol

@Guitar-Dog

28 күн бұрын

​@@andrewskey3379 let them learn (Justin Wong MK clip)

gief can do his SFV b'n'b now in sf6!! 6hp, 5lk xx double lariat. yay!

@RockZerr

Ай бұрын

or you do just 3mp which can be hitconfirmed if your opponent tries to jump out of a grab after 6hp

I'm pretty sure Siberian Express also gets additional speed when tanking a projectile to ensure you get a punish

Yeah, I've been waiting for this!

@DiscoCokkroach

Ай бұрын

THAT'S WHAT I EXPECTED!

@EniGmaFactor134

Ай бұрын

YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE!

headbutt not linking to hellstab at launch was such a confusing thing it felt like they REALLY didnt want him to do too much

Appreciate all the updates on the cast. I can't wait for the 5 seconds Ed video. XD

It was nice of Capcom to include a free bonus character with Akuma. Kind of weird they waited a year to put Gief in the game, though.

@DiscoCokkroach

Ай бұрын

The real Gief was stuck in Siberia wrestling a bear for the past year. He finally bested the bear and now has arrived in SF6 with his newfound ursine strength.

I've been waiting for this! Thank you!

The super gauge building faster is good and definitely helps, it always felt like I was barely about to build a level 2 when my opponents were sitting on a lv 3 after a round and a half. He still has the same weaknesses though so I don't think his tier will shift much, maybe bottom mid at best.

@gengarisnotinsmash...

Ай бұрын

I remember watching broski try playing zangief and just being in shock at little resources he had, between building less super and needing to use ex for so many basic combos. The changes to his drive/super meter gain look like the biggest buffs he got this patch, though the grief players might be more excited for the other buffs.

You've been the goat at these videos for so long now - awesome work as usual, man!

Such a good videos explaining all changes for all characters thank you man

Amazing & Thorough Video Guide. Thank you for sharing

I've been watching your videos since sf4 omega mode. Thanks for the insight and breakdown.

It's hilarious how a bunch of the changes were to add screen shake

Well, seems like the M. Bison patch now reverts standing medium kick to its original length, though the higher damage remains

Gief went from extremely meter hungry and unable to interact with drive chip meaningfully without supers to actually monstrous on block and with new options to not burn meter for his confirms. The only real flaw in his kit now to me is SA1.

@realchezboi

Ай бұрын

is it cuz he doesn’t have a grounded invincible reversal with one bar of super

@meathir4921

Ай бұрын

@@realchezboi That and it has an awful hitbox

You can get some nasty dizzy corner combos when connecting with the last hit of Lariat. It’s nuts. As a Modern Zangief player & enjoyer, I’m glad he got Cyclone Wheel Kick. It’s nice to have an overhead. The change to auto light, 2L and 5L are weird but I’ll live. And it’s nice to see all of the buffs Zangief got in general. Thanks for covering Zangief changes as usual Bafael.

love u, brother

happy birthday zangief

I hate hellstab being a DF input. I find this awkwardly hard to combo into Super 2, double qcf motion.

The meter building is so good since he basically always was at a meter deficit going into round 2 even if he won

He now feels complete

A someone who has been stomping 'Giefs since V; I am very glad 'Gief mains can have their fun right now. Enjoy you guys!

@chachawho435

Ай бұрын

Bro is the anti gief god or what

I come back to this vid everytime i lose to a Zangief so i can hear Bafael say that Capcom will nerf him again

Honestly scary

knee and wheel kick are safer on block? oh no.

2:03 Does this combo still work? I can't seem to get five hits. It drops after the first hell stab when I try to drive rush every time. How am I messing up??

@Bafael

6 күн бұрын

Yes it still works. You get a 2 hit combo? You probably need to do the drive rush sooner or the cr mp sooner (both can be buffered)

Yoooooo

Was hoping he will get a buff to his double atomic suplex, make it so that he gets good oki from it but the trade off is that it would do less damage.

@andrewskey3379

Ай бұрын

I was wondering if the other reason people may not use that move is due to the motion it overlaps with the running grab from mid-far range, since someone could walk back from Gief performing atomic suplex and they get the running grab instead. It’d be hard to separate the motions of the two moves, given how many command normals for kicks Gief has, but maybe the running grab could function similarly to Lily’s dive bomb where two kick buttons activate the regular version while OD is just pressing all kick buttons at a neutral position.

@aymen_b1267

Ай бұрын

@@andrewskey3379 Just keep running bare grab half circle back and make atomic suplex a 360 motion just like it used to be.

@Adderflail

Ай бұрын

It already does that. A drive rush puts you in range for medium spd/ fmk 50/50 and the move builds the bar to mix them up with. The problem will always be that it's a 10 frame throw with less range than his normal throws, so you cant really use it outside of a punish.

@andrewskey3379

Ай бұрын

@@aymen_b1267 I think both of those moves were always tied to a grounded 360 kick motion, and reimplementing that specific motion would be less feasible since it overlaps with borscht dynamite being done so close to the ground as well.

Wait, he has a counter?

Like the changes but he still feels rather dry, just wish they would give him something actually new, and delete Tundra Storm already

There must be a Gief enjoyer in the Capcom dev team 😂

This character’s going to give me aneurysms now.

tundra storm needs a complete overhaul. give him a counter move like goken’s which blocks different hit levels based on button weight. the fact that they went through rigorous testing and still felt absolutely compelled to leave that move largely unchanged is just ridiculous…

Zangief is dead now ☠️

In the next patch Gief will have less health then Akuma. Also, all versions of his lariat and spd will heal the opponent instead of damaging them. XD

@maxpflughoeft6806

Ай бұрын

This feels like a bot comment. I feel like I see this exact comment anytime i see a gief vid

@zonkrt3463

Ай бұрын

​@@maxpflughoeft6806of course it is. Everyone here is a bot. I'm a bot. You're a bot. Didn't you know that?