Every time somebody claims that science undermines religion I put an extra science on the grill just for them. No, wait...

@xavierlebeuf3061

3 жыл бұрын

underrated comment

@Sebastian-nb4cu

3 жыл бұрын

I'm ded u killed me, are u happy now?

@duderyandude9515

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@MrGodofcar

3 жыл бұрын

Don't get it

@lj.853

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrGodofcar watch his "I eat dogs" video

Alex has finally entered the stage of growing a beard to become a true philosopher

@guilhermedavitoria4346

3 жыл бұрын

Beard phase! Beard phase!

@andrewshaw1571

3 жыл бұрын

@Dave The Brahman And sleep on the floor.

@lars3603

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewshaw1571 Imagine having a floor, this post was created by the living in a barrel gang.

@Canalcoholic

3 жыл бұрын

Nah, that’s just bum fluff.

@andrewshaw1571

3 жыл бұрын

@@lars3603 fuck off Diogenes

Dr Banistan's arguments are also just a bit insulting to every non Christian scientist as well

@jen204

3 жыл бұрын

I believe it's worse than that... he is essentially saying that everyone who does science is, in fact, an unwitting Christian.

@everythingisvanityneverthe1834

3 жыл бұрын

Since when has serious philosophers and scientists ever cared about what is insulting? Atheism would not have lead to a system of searching for abstract law and order in the universe - period. The best it could come up with is applied science like engineering advancing at a slow pace of trial and error while competing with your enemies for survival of the fittest. If atheism was the dominant way of thought we'd still be trapped in the bronze age. Just deal with it? Edited for typos.

@georgejessup7938

3 жыл бұрын

Just deal with it? Your arrogance is astounding. From what is basically a thought experiment you have completely dismissed the idea that evolution can produce emotion and wonder. Humans aren't good at dealing with big numbers, that's a general fact. I've heard constant arguments about evolution which reduce humans down to basic machines just because there is no god. When in reality you are talking about a much more complex process that took billions of years. You're twisting the facts to suit your arguement. Fact: humans are inquisitive beings that search for meaning and produce abstract concepts. Random made up fact: this is impossible without a divine creator. Ergo rubbish conclusion

@xlubu411x

3 жыл бұрын

@@jen204 I would recommend Tom Holland's book "Dominion". The claim is more than just that scientists are unwitting Christians, the claim is that everyone who believes in Secularism is an unwitting Christian.

@lenroddis5933

3 жыл бұрын

@@everythingisvanityneverthe1834 "Atheism would not have lead (sic) to a system of searching for abstract law and order in the universe - period" on what basis do you make that assertion?

Storytime: I watched a video of Alex's on how to read more books. I liked his style of talking and formatting. I subscribed. I am an Athiests now.

@albsol3478

Жыл бұрын

Well done

@CraftyVegan

Жыл бұрын

The “education is fun” to “atheist” pipeline ⚛️

@jounisuninen

4 ай бұрын

When listening to Alexis I get more and more confirmed that atheists don't really know what they are talking about. Max Planck: "There can never be any real opposition between science and religion; for the one is the complement of the other. Every serious and reflective person realizes, I think, that the religious element in his nature must be recognised and cultivated if all the powers of the human soul are to act together in perfect harmony. And indeed it is not an accident that the greatest thinkers of all ages were also deeply religious souls." The most remarkable scientists behind the birth of modern science such as Galileo Galilei, Robert Boyle, Michael Faraday, James Maxwell, Isaac Newton, Blaise Pascal and Louis Pasteur all believed in the genuine planning which can be observed in nature. Of Nobel Prize winners in science [data 1900-2000] 60% believe in God and most of that 60% are scientists. So it's rather illogical to set science and intelligent design against each other. It's a clearly artificial and non-functioning approach. Johannes Kepler breaks into enthusiasm at being the first to recognise the beauty of God's works. Thus the new way of thinking [science] has nothing to do with any turn away from religion. [Wilber, Quantum Questions, p.41]

"But why be interested in science wh-" Because it makes me happy goddammit

@equation2764

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 implausible argument, sorry. Only illogical arguments accepted here. Approach atheism on the next counter to spit your logix

@dinamosflams

Жыл бұрын

and it makes me feel clever aswell! specially when I use those numbers and create hypotesis. It's fun!

You have buried my animal products😂

@joshuasteib7792

3 жыл бұрын

Cosmic Skeptic is also a very good musician - you are,too! Great Piano skills! How about a duet?

@ArnoldTohtFan

3 жыл бұрын

Animals don't have metacognition as we humans do, so we must resist the temptation to anthropomorphise them so much. Nobody wants animals to suffer, but if they can be farmed on a small, sustainable scale and in a natural environment without enduring any gratuitous suffering, I don't see a problem with it. There are methods of slaughter which are more like euthanasia than conventional slaughter, most of them devised by Temple Grandin. The animals are exposed to a gas that sends them to sleep, they are rendered insensible to pain, and are killed in their sleep. It's as close as we're ever going to get to killing without a breach of ethics. Veganism is also highly impractical. It has left many people nutrition deficient and they have become very ill, and for a fussy eater like me, veganism simply isn't an option. Autistic people will never tolerate being forced to consume foods they detest. In conclusion, I believe a radical reduction in the human population would be a sufficient measure to make farming and consumption of animal products morally tolerable. Obviously this reduction should exclusively target the bloated, superfluous populations of the third world.

@archingsunsettlingsaturn81

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArnoldTohtFan no one said that anyone had to eat foods that the detest. You don’t bananas? Strawberry’s? Ice Cream? No fruits you like? Don’t like cereal? Pasta? Quinoa?

@ArnoldTohtFan

3 жыл бұрын

@@archingsunsettlingsaturn81 You need to work on your writing skills, buddy. If we lived under the tyranny of veganism, we would indeed be forced to consume foods that we do not like and are not evolutionarily adapted to consume.

@vaurien3694

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArnoldTohtFan If an animal is slaughtered against its will without a necessity, it's immoral. "It's as close as we're ever going to get to killing without a breach of ethics." As close as. Still not there. Still immoral. What do you think about killing dogs, cats or humans this way? Is it acceptable? "It has left many people nutrition deficient and they have become very ill" Educate yourself beforehand and make sure to get some bloodwork done once a year, and you'll be fine. "Autistic people will never tolerate being forced to consume foods they detest." So who "forced" you to eat food you detest? "In conclusion, I believe a radical reduction in the human population would be a sufficient measure to make farming and consumption of animal products morally tolerable. Obviously this reduction should exclusively target the bloated, superfluous populations of the third world." Now I'm thinking you're a troll and I'm not even commenting on this last part. Wtf.

Alex with beard!! I'm officially dead. 2021 has never looked better~

@michaelstevens3618

3 жыл бұрын

You need Jesus.

@DISCO-munication

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelstevens3618 Ummm no, I don't need scumbags. He was a cynical and hypocritical character who is forever banished from my life.

The idea that Christianity holds a trademark on “truth” is pretty feeble. They borrowed a concept and then tried to commodify it. If it belonged exclusively to them - everyone else would be hopeless at discovering anything.

@augustus672

3 жыл бұрын

Every religion claims it's truthfulness, some are more oppressive and poisonous to development of mind. Why exactly did you choose to bash Christianity?

@equation2764

3 жыл бұрын

@@augustus672 because that's what the VIDEO IS ALL ABOUT !!!!!

@sneezystudios5856

3 жыл бұрын

Christianity is the only religion bold enough to claim that God became human and died for our sins. There is no other religion that makes such claims. No concept was borrowed. Christianity is unique in that matter.

@lukeioa4604

3 жыл бұрын

@@sneezystudios5856 facts

@nimishmagar5551

3 жыл бұрын

@@sneezystudios5856 know you might be wrong even eastern religion hindus believe same that god takes form of human and enter material world and hinduism is even older than Christianity.

I love Ricky Gervais description about Religion and Science. "If we lost all knowledge of both Religion and Science over night, in a thousand years Religion would be back but it would be completely different and Science would also be back but it would be exactly the same". That is "Truth".

@justthetruth870

3 жыл бұрын

@Raine Riny 7 I believe what is being referenced here are the "Physical Constants", Gravity, speed of light, chemistry etc. The changes you may observe will undoubtedly be caused by different/better methods of measurement plus better improved methods of analysis. The absolute majority of the real world that is measured and described by science will be the same. What it boils down to is method, Better method equals better results. Radioactive decay and chemical reactions will always be the same. As we know science deals with Theories not facts and Theories evolve over time as we learn. As for believing in and connecting with something greater. That's purely subjective, I connect with and view the Natural world as something greater rather than the outdated and superseded, (In my view) supernatural side of the discussion. Besides, we are only talking about 1000 years here. Anyway thanks for your comment.

@justthetruth870

3 жыл бұрын

@Raine Riny 7 That's very interesting, I had not seen that before but it stands to reason as we know that the speed of light changes its speed dependant on the medium that it is travelling in. It travels slower in water than it does in air. Travelling through the different mediums in the vacuum of space is no different. This makes no difference to the physical constant that is defined by science. The speed of light will be 299,792.458 kilometers per second for milenia to come.

@justthetruth870

3 жыл бұрын

@Raine Riny 7 You need light to measure its speed and that light has to come from a source. The light from every star in our galaxy travels through differing parts of space then it will be travelling through various different mediums. It stands to reason that the scientists making these various measurements didn't measure the same photons of light. Look, I'm not a physicist and I DON'T write the definitions of these constants, they are termed as constants and taught accordingly but the Speed of light currently is measured to the nearest metre per second and that constant will stay that way for a couple of weeks yet no matter what variations may be present.

@justthetruth870

3 жыл бұрын

@Raine Riny 7 I believe I have done my due diligence on this subject and it seems Mr. Sheldrake has very little credibility. Looking over all of the speed of light measurement experiments over the the centuries he has clearly cherry picked the Michelson-Morley period (1926-1949) where there was a very significant margin for error. They came up with a value of 299,796km/sec +/-4 with a margin for error of +12ppm. In 1950 Essen & Gordon-Smith got closer to the exact value when they produced a value of 299,792.5 +/-3 with a margin of error of +0.14ppm. In 1958 K.D. Froome confirmed the previous measurement with an identical value then in 1972 Evernson & others reduced the margin for error to -0.006ppm with their value of 299,792.4562+/-0.0011. Finally in 1983 the exact value was confirmed as 299,792.458km/sec. As I said previously, it's all about the method of measurment. It's called a constant for a reason. Choosing one set of figures and not putting them into context is very misleading and Sheldrake was being nothing but dishonest in his claims. Cherry picking for one's own benefit is too common and it demeans everyone, scientists and we the public. You even bought into his bullshit. As for the speed of light over the life of the universe, the jury is out. There are 2 camps, one thinks the speed of light has slowed and the other camp thinks it hasn't. This as with many other great mysteries will undoubtedly be solved in the future. Thanks for the discussion.

@justthetruth870

3 жыл бұрын

@Raine Riny 7 Are you serious. The man cherry picked a data set back in the time when scientists were still trying to put an exact value on c. and didn't even put it into context. We didn't know the precise value of c. back then. We were still learning. The previous experiment done by Rosa and Dorsey in 1907 gave c. a value of 299,710 +/-30 with a whopping margin for error of -280ppm and prior to that in 1862 Leon Foucault calculated c. to be 298,000+/-500 with a staggering margin of error of -0.60% not in parts per million. Don't you see how we have crept up on the precise value for c. over time. The constants have not changed and they certainly haven't changed just because he says they have. You're right, I don't have the credibility to judge him nor do I have the higher education but I am more than capable enough to go back into the scientific literature and and see for myself what he has done. I suggest you do the same. People have agendas and for good examples of this you only need to look at the climate change debacle. Vested interests trying to stifle debate and sway public opinion. This man has no credibility in the mainstream scientific community with his weird and wacky ideas. I have given you the relevant information and in the spirit of fair play I suggest you look it up and confirm it for yourself. Once again to summarize. 1. We haven't always known the precise value of c. 2. The value of c. has taken over 300 years to get to the exact value of c. starting with Romer and Huygens back in 1675 and their figure was 220,000km/sec which is an astronomical -27% out. (why didn't your hero choose that one ?) 3. Methods of measurement have improved over the centuries. 4. This is how we learn. I understand that you don't like this information and choose to believe someone like Sheldrake who is a very good communicator but I urge you to take the time and check for yourself. See that people like him aren't giving you all the facts. Anyway, make of this what you choose, I have nothing further to say on the matter. Stay well and thanks for the discussion.

My man's beard grew faster than the universe expands

@duderyandude9515

3 жыл бұрын

Faster than the speed of light? Alex is truly the wizard his beard is trying to become.

@waynepooley6950

3 жыл бұрын

What units we usin?

@mikeelliott886

3 жыл бұрын

What beard? 😂

@eila2635

3 жыл бұрын

W o a h That snail is F A S T

@Lamster66

3 жыл бұрын

Guess his Oxford grant has run out so couldn't afford razor blades. And being a vegan couldn't even go for the cheaper option of putting milk on his chin and waiting for the cat to lick off his bum fluff!

"The world will come to an end no earlier than 2060" Five years ago I would have laughed about that, but judging by today's political atmosphere...

@Hacman-rk3cr

3 жыл бұрын

Only in America, the rest will live on !!

@toyosioyejobi309

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. We are nearing the peak of human civilization and the current political sphere explains this. I won't be suprised if everything ends this century

Isn't this the guy that said Adam and Eve ate from the ”Tree of Knowledge"?

@joykeebler2890

3 жыл бұрын

It's the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Not the tree of knowledge.

@gordongoodman8342

3 жыл бұрын

@@joykeebler2890 Indeed, hence my comment. This person, incorrectly, call it the "tree of knowledge".

Ayy Alex finally starts growing a beard. Glad I was part of this milestone!

YES! THE COMMENT SECTION IS ALL ABOUT THE BEARD! My prayers have been answered... wait...

@mr.birdie1406

3 жыл бұрын

Under rated 😂👌

@edwardchilikawei

3 жыл бұрын

It's been determined

@theblazinsquid5478

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 as a Christian I approved this comment

@holdencommodorehsv

3 жыл бұрын

@@theblazinsquid5478 "as a Christian" lol please no .

@theblazinsquid5478

3 жыл бұрын

@@holdencommodorehsv you’re right as The Blazin’ Squid i approve 🤣🤣🤣

You'll be able to see my facial hair in better quality than 360p when KZread finishes processing this video. Sorry for the delay.

@shabolealquesimi9420

3 жыл бұрын

Okis

@umsuzi

3 жыл бұрын

Looks great 👍

@aworldtowin80

3 жыл бұрын

Are you going to grow it out?

@GarciaLCc

3 жыл бұрын

Ngl it complements your face :)

@20july1944

3 жыл бұрын

Do you have a video on your cosmogony? What IS your cosmogony?

Thank you for your advocacy. We need it desperately today.

Alex: a well put together, thoroughly thought out rebuttal to absurd claims Comments: Beard

"For example: is my facial hair more important than someone starving?" Well I guess that's the answer, Alex decided not to shave for charity, obviously, duh.

@CosmicSkeptic

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha

Chad Alex with the beard is like Eren in Season 4.

@JohnnyPlsCumMe

3 жыл бұрын

You mean in attack on Titan, bro

@JohnnyPlsCumMe

3 жыл бұрын

My siblings are the fans of the fucking series and this is such a big thing in my FB news feed but I really fucking hate that many toxic fans are attacking MAPPA studio

@bigzed7908

3 жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyPlsCumMe they hate it because it's something new. I taught it was cool asf. About them hating it because it's something new? History repeating itself in front of our eyes. Not a big thing, but still.

@JohnnyPlsCumMe

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigzed7908 even though, many ppl never knew what is happening behind in the Anime industry, many animators are been underpaid, Im not that engaged in watching anime but I listen to their op. Yep those idiots who are go batshit on the animations are just watching it in illegal websites

@afrid7440

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao true

I laughed really hard that "F**k you" was the churches response. 🤣

@20july1944

3 жыл бұрын

What church replied that way? I'd like to see that for myself.

@rvosta2450

2 жыл бұрын

@@20july1944 Um... It was a joke.

@20july1944

2 жыл бұрын

@@rvosta2450 On a different thread with 173 posts, you claimed that energy bends space-time just like matter does. For convenience I'll respond here. I deny that -- what is your example of energy bending space time?

@rvosta2450

2 жыл бұрын

@@20july1944 Huh? On what post was this?

@rvosta2450

2 жыл бұрын

@@20july1944 although, light bends around the Sun, as we can see stars light from behind it, which is caused by the mass + energy of the sun warping light.

Dang it. Everything sounds better when one properly uses the word "whilst". Truly like this channel and content even though I happen to disagree on many topics.

Shave the beard off it's turning me gay

@jamesmiller4184

3 жыл бұрын

HEY!

@PeruvianTreeProductions

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the dark side. We have cookies.

@attaxiaffxi7033

3 жыл бұрын

@@PeruvianTreeProductions I think he needs another inch of length on it before I commit fully.

@leebennett1821

3 жыл бұрын

@@attaxiaffxi7033 another inch of length of what?

@attaxiaffxi7033

3 жыл бұрын

@@leebennett1821 👀

8:20 I feel a little bit ashamed that I came to know that paragraph by listening to Nightwish

The only time Alex ever laughs or chuckles is on them commercial breaks 😂

Every time he says “science” his beard grows

@Victor-kt6qn

3 жыл бұрын

It is known.

@danielwaever

3 жыл бұрын

As well as any time he says any other word

@digdug3758

3 жыл бұрын

He says science like 6x a minute

@flying_spaghettimonster

3 жыл бұрын

The words he says are no relation to the growth of his beard. I should know, I created his beard.

@patricksarama4963

3 жыл бұрын

It is the way

He always makes the best analogies

"The inventor who invented the car used to walk around everywhere " made me laugh hard Alex !

@usualsuspect5173

3 жыл бұрын

Or used horse back or carriages

Did this dude get his doctorate out of a cereal packet? Alex goes far too easy on him

As always, beautifully articulated.

@fabiology6439

3 жыл бұрын

Brother may I ask why you left Islam? I'm a Shia Muslim but I like to get the perspectives of different people on why they do such things.

@areebhasan4510

3 жыл бұрын

@@fabiology6439 He has a well-made video that shows why he left. Check out his channel.

@fabiology6439

3 жыл бұрын

@@areebhasan4510 To be honest don't blame him for leaving "Islam" but I just wish he looked deeper into it and had discovered the path of Ahlulbayt a.s. (household/progeny of prophet Mohammed s.a.w.s.), they are full of knowledge, wisdom and divinity, as Mohammed s.a.w.s. said "I'm the the city of knowledge and Ali is it's gateway." Ali a.s. is the first out of the 14 members of the Ahlulbayt a.s. and the first succesor of Mohammed s.a.w.s. (from the 12 total) which only a minority of Muslims follow (10-15%). To be frank with you the main reason why he left was probably because of the hadith books Sunni (majority) Muslims have, they are the definition of psychotic and show the Quran in a dark manner when it's full of light. Anyways if you have any question feel free to ask, and may God s.w.t. show his mercy upon him, you, me and all his lost/struggling/questioning creations.

@fabiology6439

3 жыл бұрын

@bil pro Don't think you understand that some words have more than one definition, as divinity does. Also when did I use Allah s.w.t.'s attributes for someone else?

@itsanewday5219

3 жыл бұрын

@bil pro if i have to choose any god going out of atheism thats surely not allah.Your allah is not morally good and you also know that.

"I myself wouldn't make such a grand statement that 'Science has Buried God'" Title of the video:

@cade8986

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@micah329

3 жыл бұрын

Not really grand. God doesn't take much to bury.

@dionysis_

3 жыл бұрын

@@micah329 “God is dead” - Nietzsche, 1883 “Nietzsche is dead” - God, 1900 😛

@victorliafook

3 жыл бұрын

Congrats, you just discovered the click bait.

@stueyapstuey4235

3 жыл бұрын

@@micah329 Y'can't bury a non-existent (non) thing... er... or, something...

As a retired Science Lecturer and teacher, it is science that studies Nature, but to Spinoza, God and Nature are one. "Deus Sim Narura" and it is my understanding of organic chemistry that confirms it

Alex, you gave the example of Darwin adding "by the Creator" in his 2nd edition to appease the Christians. That is EXACTLY what happened to our US Declaration of Independence when it says "...endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights." This passage was added to appease the Christians who wouldn't ratify it unless it had God in it. Being that the founders wanted this to be a secular nation and no mention of God, this was the compromise they came up with. Basically, they were forced to include it even though they didn't believe it was the right thing.

ALEX HAS OFFICIALLY BECOME A TRUE PHILOSOPHER

@patricksarama4963

3 жыл бұрын

*Achievement unlocked: philosopher beard*

One more for the algorithm. Also, why nobody has commented on Alex's beard yet??

@MrGodofcar

3 жыл бұрын

You're blind

@Emiliapocalypse

3 жыл бұрын

It’s the only thing people will talk about

@banishedbr

3 жыл бұрын

what beard ? too short

@MrGodofcar

3 жыл бұрын

@@banishedbr A short beard is still a beard.

@stambo1983

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrGodofcar I would say it's more stubble

Alex- makes great content with nuanced, informative arguments The entire comments section- ooo beard

@alastorlapid2365

2 жыл бұрын

Because, ooo beard

@CraftyVegan

Жыл бұрын

@@alastorlapid2365 beard ^_^

I don't believe in god. I believe in science means. If science proved god I would believe but currently there is no proof for god so I don't believe.

Issac Newton never left His faith because He knew the gravity of doing so.

@AMikeStein

3 жыл бұрын

Lol! I see what you did there. :)

@xminteee300

3 жыл бұрын

If you’re trying to imply that Newton was secretly an atheist you couldn’t be more wrong. Newton was heavily into alchemy and esoteric stuff, he wrote books about it. He was a devout Christian and there is absolutely no evidence to the contrary.

@RizzRoss9001

3 жыл бұрын

@@xminteee300 it's just a joke sir

@thorpenator9148

3 жыл бұрын

People were killed for going against common beliefs.

@quantumentangle154

3 жыл бұрын

Beautiful..

Intellectuals: hmm, yes, a well-cited and reasoned argument against the idea that one needs to be a Christian to use Science The comment section: he-he-he-he, funny science man with a beard

@ADeeSHUPA

3 жыл бұрын

@@vvv4889 uP

@tballs6077

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahahaha lab coats don't know anything. Legends in their own mind's. Create life from nothing and you will be closest to God in all power and wisdom. But you can't.. hahahha

@wayfa13

3 жыл бұрын

@@tballs6077 ?

@fnfmdjfj9569

3 жыл бұрын

@@wayfa13 pretty self explanatory

@falsexgrindx378

3 жыл бұрын

You got it backwards.

Science has nothing to do with belief. People who claim science has proven or disproven God simply don’t understand how it works.

@timo4463

Жыл бұрын

those people also probably never were in a good school in germany only a singular school of our 3 (Haupt-, Realschule and Gymnasium) is teaching physics etc i had to go done to a RealSchool and people there were so stupid they knew nothign about anything they couldnt even speak or write in english and i really miss my old school they experiments were fun to do

Current science cannot bury religion, and vice versa. I will begin by defining what i will refer to as an "information barrier". An information barrier is a metaphorical or physical barrier that prevents us from coming to any solid conclusions. One such information barrier is history. We have a knowledge of history, but that knowledge is ultimately limited. On the other hand, we have a limited knowledge of religious lore. For example, we have fragments of the Gospel of Judas, but not the entire thing. Our limited knowledge of science, history, and religious lore prevents us from coming to provable conclusions. So, next time you hear an atheist say "Science disproves God", you know they are stupid due to the Dunning-Kreuger effect. The inverse is true for religious people; we cannot prove the existence of our gods, but some of us claim we can. All of this stems from a problem of human ignorance. Eventually, if these information barriers are broken, we may be able to disprove or prove God. But until then, stop acting like you know everything.

"now this may sound implausible at first....and...well ya because it is" that was genius! funny and ultra-intelligent!

Title: “Science has buried God” Alex: “I myself wouldn’t make such a grand statement that science has buried God”

@jeannedarc7533

3 жыл бұрын

Religion = Pile of Gordon Ramsay's shit lmao

@VictorGuterres-kl9im

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeannedarc7533 Edgy

@abhayraj4189

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeannedarc7533 Actually Religions are not bs, Certain ideas in Religion are backward, which shouldnt be supported, But as long as the religious people correct these ideas over time as we change, It would have been great The thought of A world with A Supreme power that takes care of us(whether true or not), Is comforting for some and They should be free to choose that, There isnt anything wrong with being religious if you want to but shouldnt be forced to believe either if you dont want to

@mysty1353

3 жыл бұрын

@@abhayraj4189 The problem is religious people believe that their ideas must be correct since they came from God.

@Annibals

3 жыл бұрын

Says an atheist to a Christian

It's sad when you see a fully grown adult using unsound logic to pretend to prove the existence of mythological stories

The problem with sugarcoating that religion and science don't contradict, is that... it isn't the case, since most religions do have statements about how reality works, and DO contradict reality itself. "Science doesn't contradict religion" but it does contradict that lighting volts aren't from Zeus, Ba'al nor Yahweh. "Science doesn't contradict religion", but it does contradict all creationist myths. "Science doesn't contradict religion" but it does contradict all religious cosmology.

“The scientific method doesn’t care why you’re using it” - brilliant

@sunset2.00

3 жыл бұрын

Agree

@everythingisvanityneverthe1834

3 жыл бұрын

But Christians were the first that cared to use the scientific method. Nobody else had any reason to use it. The scientific method didn't just randomly pop into somebody's head.

@juliamay8580

3 жыл бұрын

@@everythingisvanityneverthe1834 Your first premise might be true (?). You second premise isn't true. Your third premise it's odd and vague.

@everythingisvanityneverthe1834

3 жыл бұрын

@@juliamay8580 I am sincerely interested to know why you think on a naturalistic worldview governed by survival of the fittest as the foundational principle anybody would conceive of the scientific method. Even Christianity had to evolve to the point where its foundational principles of cooperating with your enemy could flourish before the scientific method was established. Edited : only for the sake of typos

@everythingisvanityneverthe1834

3 жыл бұрын

@@juliamay8580 my third premise is not a premise 🙂. It is a messed up conclusion following from the first two. Please ignore it if you are interest in a serious discussion. Otherwise I will defend it to the death 😂

Not finished yet but excellent (as always) so far, and btw the audio quality is excellent and the facial hair looks good. Ok, back to the video now....

Science can never disprove the God. Science is restricted to the visible natural world. Science is based on observation and experimentation. It is not applicable to anything that is supernatural or the unseen. So its not possible to bury God as you say. On the other hand the philosophical arguments, contingency arguments, fine tuning etc leads to the existence of a Creator. And these reasons are very strong.

@mcsuck1

2 жыл бұрын

If the supernatural is something outside of nature then the notion of studying it is absurd. If I said I have this very special Ferbie, and that this Ferbie didn't interact with the Universe, then as far as the Universe is concerned the truth of falseness of the existence of Ferbie is moot. If Ferbie exists it's entirely irrelevant to anything in the Universe. If it is relevant then it must interact with the Universe. And if it interacts with the Universe then science can study it. Meaning it's part of the natural world and thus not supernatural under the present day definition of the word.

@ashifhassan1148

2 жыл бұрын

@@mcsuck1 This shows the limitation of science. If science cant deal with the supernatural, it doesnt mean there is a realm called the unseen world. Rather it shows us that we are limited beings and our current technologies are not in a position to deal with it.

@mcsuck1

2 жыл бұрын

@@ashifhassan1148 It shows the limitation of humans and that arguing for the supernatural is fruitless. The supernatural is an assertion.

@ashifhassan1148

2 жыл бұрын

@@mcsuck1 Thats why we need revelation from the creator to understand these things that is beyond the capacity of science. That is why you should consider looking into different religious books that claims to be from the creator. Analyse logically, rationally and reasonably. Then reach to a conclusion. When I say research I mean honest and deep understanding of that particular book.

@mcsuck1

2 жыл бұрын

@@ashifhassan1148 If it's incomprehensible, then it's incomprehensible. Nothing about proposing divine revelation solves this problem. How can we justify (even to ourselves) the validity of the experience of divine revelation as being something that comes from the divine? By assertion of the existence of the divine. You are relying on ancient texts written by people who didn't understand much of how the natural world works and how the human body works. I have studied many religions and read their holy books. I wasn't convinced. Particularly since books are the source of the supernatural claims, not the evidence for it. To date no one, that I know off, has been able to provide a methodology for how to tell a true revelation from a false one.

2:49 does he now that most scientific foundations invented and discovered by the Greeks,Muslims(in general) and Indians,and I can a sure you they weren’t Christians

Come on, deal with the heavy weights. Talk to Jonathan Pageau 😉

@johnsinclair4621

3 жыл бұрын

You can’t be serious. That fucking jungian is indeed hilarious, but not a „heavy weight“.

@dionysis_

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnsinclair4621 lol, calling Jonathan a Jungian just betrays your ignorance of his work. He hasn’t even read Jung 😂

@johnsinclair4621

3 жыл бұрын

@@dionysis_ I don’t get how you can not see that he is a jungian. But okay, let’s leave it at that..... „😉“

@dionysis_

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnsinclair4621 Don’t leave it at that. I know his work really well and he is not a Jungian. I am communicating this so now you have a chance to see that your assessment is evidently wrong. You can choose to stubbornly persist but this would tell me more about you than about Pageau 🤷‍♂️

@johnsinclair4621

3 жыл бұрын

@@dionysis_ I had a phase in which I watched his content a lot and the impression I got is that he is heavily influenced by Jungianism. Or what is his form of „symbolism“ supposed to be, if not an elaboration of jungian ideas? If you, for some reason, care so much about him not being a jungian, could you please elaborate on why he isn’t one?

An 18 minute video has been uploaded less than 5 minutes ago and there are already dislikes? Hear the man out for "god's" sake !

@leyrua

3 жыл бұрын

Excuse me, you are being very disrespectful of those of us with _pantheons._ It's "for _gods'_ sake". #joking

@SUN-qp5xe

3 жыл бұрын

@@leyrua lol

If christianity was required for science, then how would you explain pre-modern science? Like, for example, Archimedes' discovery of his principle in ancient Greece or Al-Hazen's development of geometric optics during the Islamic Golden age? The now recognised founders of modern science like Galileo etc did not actually invent science, they mostly a tradition of scientific thinking that came before. Christianity did not even exist yet when the ancient Greeks invented science.

I would love to see Alex critique Vedanta , particularly as taught at the moment by someone like Swami Sarvapriyananda of the Vedanta Society ( plenty of his videos on KZread ) . There is a general view in Vedanta that religion , like science , can be understood at various levels . You wouldn't teach particle physics to a child on their first day at school . Most of the people Alex seems to critique are at about the GCSE level of religious understanding . These Vedantins have a post PhD understanding of religion . So I personally would love be to see Alex have a discussion with Swami Sarvapriyananda in particular .

he's so proud of that segue, i love it

@JudgeDredd010

3 жыл бұрын

It was pretty smooth 😂

@GardenNomme

3 жыл бұрын

I've found them, the only person on the planet that knows the difference between "segue" and "segway"

@tragic6162

3 жыл бұрын

Yo wassup sawtooth

@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked

3 жыл бұрын

I'll have to look up that term.

@Emiliapocalypse

3 жыл бұрын

@@GardenNomme fear not, they’re definitely not the only one who knows the difference

Dayum Alex that beard looking sexy on you!

I don't care about science or religion. I'm here because he's cute

Fantastic video, there's only one point I have a problem with. At 13:55 you're discussing pursuing truth to reflect God and you make some points that aren't quite game. 1. God did not reveal why Job was being tortured because that would remove the point from the trial. If he told him that "the devil is testing your allegiance to me and after this is all over you'll be rewarded with 7x more wealth than you had previously", something that's objectively the truth, it would invalidate the exercise itself. 2. The actions of both Catholic and Christian church against those who uncovered truths they didn't like are antithetical to what God calls us to do, act in kindness towards everyone. 3. I don't see how learning more about the universe and the laws that govern it invalidate God or his teachings. As science progresses, I just see more and more ways he designed our universe to act as it is, and I marvel at the beauty of it all. He knew we would be creative and love discovery, and in creating an intricate system to govern the universe also made a wonderful puzzle for us to solve and discover. This new science neither undermines or assists the belief in God, it merely reflects the viewpoint you look on if with. The points aren't hugely important, just thought I'd slip my thoughts and explanations in.

@StallionFernando

3 жыл бұрын

Well said, the more discoveries the deeper my reverence of God and his work.

Ppl then: That drawer tho Ppl now: That beard tho

@joshuachong6620

3 жыл бұрын

Why does this channel exist

@kazzajaxon7566

3 жыл бұрын

Well I never would have thought that a channel like this existed, I'm certainly intrigued.

@tolkiendil4806

2 жыл бұрын

He's attractive tho

@Summer-uq1vr

2 жыл бұрын

But the beard tho.. Also relate to your account name on a spiritual level lmao

@JohnnyPlsCumMe

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshuachong6620 Because I exist... Diba?

Are you getting ready for a dollar shave club sponsorship?

“The science that would go on to undermine their religion hadn’t been invented yet” is a logical fallacy that would mean, based on this premise, we wouldn’t find any modern scientists who are also religious right? Wrong. “I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know his thoughts; the rest are details.” ~ Albert Einstein 1955 “Astronomers who do not draw theistic or deistic conclusions are becoming rare, and even the few dissenters hint that the tide is against them. Geoffrey Burbidge, of the University of California at San Diego, complains that his fellow astronomers are rushing off to join ‘the First Church of Christ of the Big Bang.’” ~ Hugh Ross 1997 “That there are what I or anyone would call supernatural forces at work is now, I think, a scientifically proven fact.” ~ Robert Jastrow 2000 “The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we concentrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great power.” ~ Nikola Tesla 1938 “The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you.” ~ Werner Heisenberg 1974 As a Christian, I begin to comprehend what life is all about through belief in a Creator, some of whose nature was revealed by a man born about 2000 years ago. ~ Tony Hewish (Nobel Prize physics 1974)

@Zripas

3 жыл бұрын

Interestingly enough your newest quote is 21 years old.

@blah5617

3 жыл бұрын

@@Zripas oh fantastic so science has finally disproven God in the last 20 years. Which discovery made them all atheists in the 21st century? “Same thing with the existence of God. I don’t think there’s any one experiment that you can create to prove or disprove the existence of God. Therefore, it’s not a falsifiable statement. You cannot create an experiment that disproves the existence of God. Therefore, it’s a non-falsifiable statement.” ~ Michio Kaku (Theoretical physicist) 2017

@Zripas

3 жыл бұрын

@@blah5617 If you dint realized by now, there isint any burden to disprove claim which never been proven to be true. Its on you to prove that your god is real, if some one can disprove your empty claim, its only a bonus but not a requirement to dismiss your claim. Welcome to 21st century. "Michio Kaku" He is correct, you cant disprove god in general, you can disprove specific claims relating to god, but god claim in general is not a falsifiable statement. Its on same level as you cant disprove that magical pixies farted out our universe after eating hot tacos, but burden is not on you to disprove this claim, burden would be on person who made a claim. And just FYI in 21st century majority of scientists are atheists.

@blah5617

3 жыл бұрын

@@Zripas then I don’t understand what you’re saying either you think science can disprove God or it can’t. It sounds like you’re just talking around in a big circle to feel smart. Is it working? 😂

@Zripas

3 жыл бұрын

@@blah5617 Science doesn't need to disprove god if it can or cant be done, that's quite irrelevant. Any claim without evidence can be dismissed without any evidence. Simple as that. So god claim gets dismissed as invalid claim and that's that. You literally would be wasting time disproving random claims like that, there are thousands of those, if not millions...

Science denial = reality denial.

I'm your age and have been watching you for many years. I like how you've progressively become more sophisticated and nuanced.

_Science has berried god"_ Sounds yummy.

@leyrua

3 жыл бұрын

I was having a smoothie with _blueberries_ when I read this comment. 😋

@martinportales8626

3 жыл бұрын

This reminds me of the Toriko manga lol God, a giant golden frog, is one of the best ingredients in the Toriko world.

@adrammelech6323

3 жыл бұрын

Personally I prefer smoked god with some peas and a glass of red wine.

10:10 if valuing TRUTH so much that it becomes a MOTIVATION for anything we do ... is a specifically "Christian" ideal, ... then: Not a single human prior to Jesus ever saw such value in truth. That means that the entire Hebrew religion and texts ... UPON WHICH the Christians religion(s) claim to be based ... was not concerned with truth at all. This, then, undermines the very foundation upon which Christianity (every mutually exclusive, competing version) claims to be based.

For my money, as soon as he refers to "atheism worldview" he's lost the argument as he clearly doesn't understand what atheism is. There is no "atheism worldview" as atheism is a single response to a single premise. Nothing more.

@josephsack4918

3 жыл бұрын

Is theism a worldview? If atheism hasn't become one, it certainly shapes ones worldview.

@Zripas

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephsack4918 Atheism is as much of world view as NOT collecting post stamps is a hobby...

@josephsack4918

3 жыл бұрын

@@Zripas the definition of atheism is like that but people base their worldview on their disbelief in god(s)

@Zripas

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephsack4918 And that is irrelevant to atheism not being a worldview. And there is no set world view amongst atheist, only one thing in common is that lack of belief in god(s), anything else applies, you can have atheist who believes in after life, ghosts, forest pixies and so on. If you don't believe in big foot, does that mean you have worldview surrounding this claim?

@josephsack4918

3 жыл бұрын

@@Zripas big foot would not affect a lot of life choices you make, G-d would. And if that's all it is, no need to use that title since there are more worldview based titles you have. It just seems it's developed into a way people live and think (that there IS no god)

My man added +2 charisma with that beard

Why do i value truth as an atheist? When you cross the road, do you care about the truth if there is or isnt a truck coming? The truth matters

@secretjanus

2 жыл бұрын

If you care about truth, I’m currently dancing in your closet

Isn't gaining knowledge what Adam and Eve got kicked out for? Doesn't sound very christ-like to me to become a scientist

@jeffin8029

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, trying to mix religion and science is like trying to put pinnaples in pizza.At the core of religion is faith, it can't change no matter what. Science is the exact opposite, it is to skeptically interrogate the world suing constant questioning, scrutiny, testing and repeated experimentation. Science is constantly changing religion isn't, religion says whatever is written in this book is true. Science says:Every theory is the best explanation for the hypothesis waiting to be falsefied.

Just because some Christians were scientists doesn't mean the whole science is formed upon the basis or values of Christainity! There were Muslim scientists as well like Averroes (Ibn rashud) or Arman Firman (Abbas Ibn Firnas), now would say the same thing that Science is also based upon Islamic values? The scientists discovered science BECAUSE OF THEIR OWN MORAL CONSCIOUSNESS NOT BECAUSE OF THIER RELIGIOUS VALUES !!

damn i can’t believe you were like,, 17 when you first started making these videos. you’ve grown up so much. and nice beard

@angelamaryquitecontrary4609

3 жыл бұрын

He almost fills the hole in my life left by the loss of Christopher Hitchens. What a polymath, and such eloquence.

Always a pleasure listening to you. Wonderful video as usual.

Alex, I love your channel. I am a Christian, and you are actually one of my favorite youtubers. I do have one early critique of your video, more in the form of a question: why do atheists claim that there is no evidence the Israelites were in Egypt, when we actually have overwhelming evidence confirming the presence of Semitic slaves in Egypt? Some atheists say that the Israelites had to be present at a certain time because that is how they interpret the Bible ("in the place of Ramses") but if you go back earlier, there is a clear archaeological record of Semitic people moving into Egypt, a time of prosperity, enslavement, and then a sudden disappearance from the record. I would love to see you engage with this topic. As a bit of a skeptic myself, I was at first skeptical of these claims, but from what I can tell, they are backed up by some secular scholars as well. The ones that say this record could not be the Israelites of the Bible claim it's the wrong time period; why?

@davidvarley1812

2 жыл бұрын

Your correct. We must remember accident Egyptian history as only been studied for just over 100 years and in archaeological terms we've only encountered the tip of that iceberg. To say we have no archeology for the Hebrews in ancient Egypt is wrong. Ancient Egyptian archaeology is not a exact science. Archaeology is a science based on interpretation of information and our understanding of ancient history evolves over time. Also we must remember absence of information isn't the same as no evidence. The Bible is unreliable in many ways but it is nevertheless an anthology of ancient stories and authored by many people and therefore a decent piece of historical evidence in itself.

@matswessling6600

Жыл бұрын

@@davidvarley1812 the storues of the bible isnt that ancient. mostly where constructed when in babylon to build up a, fake, long history of israel.

@chamicels

Жыл бұрын

Because it never happened

@noobitronius

Жыл бұрын

@@chamicels did you read my comment? You can't just assume your conclusion.

@chamicels

Жыл бұрын

@@noobitronius I don’t trust your sources plus there is zero evidence of them wandering the desert for 40 years

Ancient Greeks were doing science literally before Christianity was even a thing.

@bdm-astroscorpion5025

3 жыл бұрын

The Greek philosophers who were surpressed by the Roman Empire when the latter adopted Christianity as it's one and only permissible religion.

@Raptor302

3 жыл бұрын

@@bdm-astroscorpion5025 Still before.

@Kingdomkey123678

3 жыл бұрын

@@bdm-astroscorpion5025 They were doing science before Rome was larger than a city. Same for the Chinese. So by the logic of the original video being commented on, Greek Paganism, and the various Chinese belief systems all support science just as much as Christianity

The beard suits you well.

Man, that appears to be like a classical CosmicSkeptic video, reminds me of the old days

The facial hair looks great!

I dont think christianity talks about God the right way. The Christian idea of God is narcissistic and scary.

DAMN SON the beard really suits you!

@gottabnic

3 жыл бұрын

That is not a beard... that’s a small bit of stubble

primary reasons to watch Alex: 1- accent 2-facial hair 3-content

@universecreator988

3 жыл бұрын

Those are secondary. The primary reason is: 1- Articulate and coherent 2- Debunks religious claims with 1-

@angelamaryquitecontrary4609

3 жыл бұрын

It's a perfectly normal, educated English accent! He sounds a little like my husband. Well, not the content, obvs.

Islam does the same thing with science, a lot of people I know always talk about the "Islamic golden age of science" and act like it occurred because they were Muslim. The conquered scholars of Persia were the reason for the Islamic golden age not Islam itself.

Great video, while I am a muslim who thinks that science and scientific approaches can work alongside religious ones; I don’t think it’s good to believe both on the extremes - I especially hate seeing conservative muslims who seem-ably ignore the Golden Age of Islamic Science... I just personally don’t like reductive approaches. I like to think science and religion try to answer different questions - this is just my personal opinion though.

@agnosticatheist342

3 жыл бұрын

Science is the one which can cure your cancer. Religion just makes you believe that you have a cancer and then offers you a cure for it.

@AeromaticXD

3 жыл бұрын

@@agnosticatheist342 that is a simplistic assumption

@agnosticatheist342

3 жыл бұрын

@@AeromaticXD Its a realistic comparison.

@AeromaticXD

3 жыл бұрын

@@agnosticatheist342 is it reaaally though?

@agnosticatheist342

3 жыл бұрын

@@AeromaticXD It is.

With every video that you release, I become increasingly more impressed by your calm, cool, clear, and, precise intellect. Continue to inspire!

You inspired me to finally come out to my self as an atheist, and pushed me into researching and correct way of defending my statements and so much more... I am forever grateful ❤️

@20july1944

3 жыл бұрын

Witch: my favorite evidence we have a Creator God is cosmogony, thermodynamics and cosmogony. What is your favorite evidence for atheism?

@enzoforgets9456

3 жыл бұрын

@@20july1944 science and or not believing in a book made early on in human development as 100% fact, which as a christian even i dont believe everything in the bible

@20july1944

3 жыл бұрын

@@enzoforgets9456 OK, the question isn't anyone's opinion of the Bible. I'm a Christian and I'm here to defend theism as a step toward Christianity and I only argue from science and logic. So, we may be in accord.

@enzoforgets9456

3 жыл бұрын

@@20july1944 oh ok, my bad, seems i got a bit mixed up there!

@ianreynolds8552

3 жыл бұрын

We are limited by science and history ! In fact reality, only being conscious of what we know

You have become that "fun at parties guy".

Wow! The guy just jumps right in with the False Dichotomy (Christianity or Atheism...with NO other options) and rolls straight into an Argument from Authority (Great scientists of the past believed it; therefore it must be true.) It's so transparent to anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of Rhetoric. He utterly ignores the fact that Galileo (among others) narrowly avoided execution for heresy...and many others _didn't_ avoid it...as well as the fact that Newton's beliefs about the Bible would be considered downright ridiculous by most Christians (then and now). I do so love it when people cite the beliefs of great historical figures...in very broad terms...utterly unaware that the fine details of those very same scientists' lives utterly defeat their own argument. The danger is that platforms like KZread don't have an algorithm that automatically plays counter-argument videos, so viewers often only get one side's propaganda. Then the idea that wanting to know the truth is an inherently Christian notion is...well...utterly lacking in philosophical self-awareness. Genesis Chapter 1, Verse 6 _demonstrably_ misidentifies the nature of both the _sky_ (a big, hard dome) and _outer space_ (a great expanse of water). Only _six verses in,_ the Bible is demonstrably NOT true. Moreover, his claims is willfully ignorant of the fact that a great many scientific discoveries...and the development of Scientific Method itself...are owed specifically to Muslim scientists (pre-13th Century). That's why the names of most stars are, in fact, Arabic, why the number system we use to this day (especially ZERO) is, in fact, Arabic, and why words like algebra and algorithm are...you guessed it...Arabic. I'm not saying Islam promoted the development of Science any more than Christianity did. In fact, both have an extensive and bloody history of suppressing it. I'm simply pointing out that attributing scientific exploration to ANY religious ideology is demonstrably false. As for why telling the truth is a good thing, he's presenting another Argument from Authority by assuming that there is no morality without God (specifically the Christian God...and more specifically the God of HIS specific BRAND of Christianity). On top of the Argument from Authority, the reason he believes God is the author of all morality is because it says so in the Bible, which is _either_ yet another Argument from Authority _or_ Begging the Question (How do you know the Bible is true OTHER THAN the Bible's own claim of such?). Either way, all of his arguments are examples of (literally) textbook Logical Fallacies. The ironic thing is that scientific methodology (which doesn't account for supernatural intervention of any kind) has generated the very technology he is using to deliver his ignorant, arrogant, self-righteous, misguided, and demonstrably false, "Science NEEDS Christianity," message. Thank you for taking time to share your critique. I hope you don't mind that my own analysis is somewhat lengthy. It's difficulty to properly address SO MANY wrong things without being a bit verbose.

Imagine being a grown ass man and being humiliated by a kid on youtube...it must hurt

@LXWLESS

3 жыл бұрын

Kid with a slight beard lol

@universecreator988

3 жыл бұрын

Dude is over 20. He is a prime adult

@treeoflife7151

3 жыл бұрын

Don't think it would be correct to refer Alex as kid but kids can know somethings better and be more open minded

Also, great video man. I actually wanted to make a similar video, but you've done it better than I ever would have. So props to you too :)

This guy puts the response perfectly, not sad that a PHD doctor goes around making these kind of claims

As a Christian, I can say affirmatively that you are my favorite atheist, keep doing what you're doing bro

@shwty9215

3 жыл бұрын

How do atheist think the universe was created? Everything has to start from something, according to most atheist. They never answer when somebody asks, they just say “well, we don’t know yet!” But if they did know how nothing created something, it would destroy a bunch of their other arguments. I think most atheist are secretly agnostic. We have to have a higher power. It would make more sense to become immortal with no sickness if evolution had a set intention. One of the main reasons I’m a Christian is because I know when evolution was made it had a end goal, humans with a brilliant mind. I think Adam and Eve were not the first people, just the first people of isreal or the first people who got intelligent enough to gain free will. Sorry for the rant lol

@brotherpax1353

3 жыл бұрын

@@shwty9215 youre good bro, and i think a lot of atheists (like Cosmic Skeptic) actively disbelieve and just take an idk stance on the unanswered (and i think unanswerable) questions. for me the main thing making me Christian is Jesus and the evidence for his resurrection, what makes me a theist is the contingency argument and the argument from consciousness. i think the internet is a great place to test the arguments, too. but yeah, i see where you’re coming from but if somebody says they actively disbelieve i thinks it’s pointless to try to convince them that they actually just dont know and must consider theism, it never goes anywhere

@pratikkumar9107

3 жыл бұрын

@@brotherpax1353 reglion gays thing Earth is flat 😂😂😂 what you thing 😂😂😂 lol

@brotherpax1353

3 жыл бұрын

@@pratikkumar9107 some do, but christianity doesn’t. Mike Winger has a really good video on debunking flat earth bible verses

Come on Alex you're above this! Open up some William James, Wittgenstein, Heidegger!

@tonydarcy1606

3 жыл бұрын

No please don't !

@pipersolanas3322

3 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY!!!

I love your honesty, intellect and all your content in general.

Religion is an evolved behavior for an animal curious and intelligent mind to live in a society? As shown by brain function. Including paranoia, fear of the unknown, and fear of death. Also a social need for unity, law, structure, leadership, education, culture, and morals. And spiritual experience can be produced with the use of certain drugs. Suggesting that the mind is receptive to religion, and religious experience as part of the brain structure itself.

For everyone that needs to hear this please know that it's never too late to find God and reach your God given potential 🙏

nice beard bro. you look pretty cool.

People: lets check out the new video by cosmic skeptic. Me: *BEARD!*

Science is man's limited knowledge of an infinite God

@jonahjerryson4913

2 ай бұрын

And science holds all the knowledge humanity has ever known about the universe. I didn't know who told you this but it is sure not God so I am not convinced in your statement.

Science is responsible for that o so sweet “contingency argument” 🤭

Your beard covered your youngness.

I take serious issue with "The founding fathers of science" terminology being used here. It's a very Europeanised view. Scientific pursuit has been a human endeavour for centuries and had been occuring throughout many civilizations around the world before it kicked on in 16th century Europe. I'm a little disappointed that Alex even honoured this view enough to argue its merits.

@janhavlis

3 жыл бұрын

would you mind an example?

@FalconFire13

3 жыл бұрын

@@janhavlis Plenty. Plato and Aristotle's Deductive Reasoning and Empiricism are the basis of the modern scientific method. Aristarchus and Eratosthenes had already theorised Heliocentrism and Spherical Earth with scientific evidence 1500 years prior to Copernicus. Works of astronomers such as Aryabhata, Bhaskara, Mesopotamian and Chinese counterparts had laid the foundations of modern astronomy. Archimedes, Ibn-Sahl (and many others during the Islamic Golden Period, whose names I can't recollect) had used the same scientific principles to study physics. I mean, I really could go on. The early modern European scientists are responsible for advancing these ideas and creating experimental and quantitative methods which kick-started modern science. Scientific approach has been a continuous (but, limited) endeavour from Mesopotamia, Greece, India, China and early Islam to modern Europeans. The theological underpinnings of Newton is as irrelevant as those of Greeks, Hindus, Chinese and Muslims.

@janhavlis

3 жыл бұрын

@@FalconFire13 i beg to differ. what i think is mixed here is prerequisites to scientific method and the appearance of the method itself. i wholeheartedly agree that all the above mentioned thinkers sawed seeds which later became scientific method, but none of them in fact used it. empiricism per se is not scientific method, as e.g. aristotle used it only in limited extent, otherwise he wouldn't be later on mentioned for not testing hypothesis (he used deductive logic, but failed to test his conclusions falling to inductive leap trap), which is crucial in scientific method generally. moreover, whether we like it or not, historically, only european society gave birth in that time to the science, everywhere else the seeds failed to produce it. we may discuss why it happened this way (harari made few good points), hardly one can call it eurocentrism or suchs. would we call chinocentrism a fact, that chinese langs is the only major lang family with functionally established "purely" logographic script, although it had been used in many places over the world?

@FalconFire13

3 жыл бұрын

@@janhavlis I think I should've been more clearer. The early modern European scientists are indeed the pioneers of application of the modern scientific method. This is pretty much a universally accepted fact. But, they're not the founding fathers of 'science'. I'm sure you're aware of the the difference by definition. But, it's pretentious of us to draw the line at Copernicus using the scientific method as the basis; considering the achievements of post-classical and antiquity are the substratum of modern science. Either way, when I said Eurocentrism, I meant it for the "founding fathers of science" terminology, which is what the apologist claimed here (and yes, they do mean that), and not the scientific method. I do agree that Harari did mention a few good reasons, but it still needed more nuance. The crux of the point still stands, though. The religious underpinnings of those scientists are as irrelevant as those before them, whether they were empiricists or rationalists or skeptics.

@janhavlis

3 жыл бұрын

@@FalconFire13 i am not sure, if i understand the term "modern scientific method" as there is any "premodern scientific method". i prefer to distinguish pre-science to science, where science is based on baconian empiricis (not necessarily directly falsifying, which is quite new in the mainstream, i know, weak, but it's the best i could come up with). i also tend to see engineering (technology development) and science to be different things. morevover, formal sciences like mathematics are also a bit different cup of tea. definitely, we are in accord about the religious underpinnings. well, generally, whenever speaking about a history of anything, any line we draw is arbitrary. maybe, my understanding of "founding fathers" is different than yours, so goes language. anyway, good chat :)

Yeah, Christianity vs Atheism as your two worldview options is a false dichotomy.

There are many scientists who believe in a God, so it is possible to deduce that science has not buried God.