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@PRAR1966

2 ай бұрын

Ever considered death of the Ego ? (mental rebalancing)

@user-qm5wv9ef3f

2 ай бұрын

why dont you speak more about Islam, in my opinion it is much more scientific and logical than christianity

@davidhunternyc1

2 ай бұрын

When I was young I heard this simple argument for agnosticism- How much do you know about the universe? Do you know 50%? Do you know 10%? Perhaps 1%? For the sake of argument, let's just say that you know 1% of the universe. You can check to see if I'm correct but, even at 1%, this would make you the smartest human being who ever lived. Let's give you the benefit of the doubt that you are indeed the smartest person who ever lived, even smarter than Alex O'Connor. Here's the question: Is it possible that God exists outside the 99% of knowledge you have about the universe? Conversely, is it possible that God does not exist outside the 99% of knowledge about the universe? There's a 99% likelihood that you don't know one way or the other about God's existence. Why must you then blindly choose to believe one way or the other? It's a false binary. You don't have to believe one way or the other. You can simply balance both possibilities in your mind and be amazed and awed at the wondrous 99% of the universe you don't understand.

@hippykiller2775

2 ай бұрын

I don't have time in my life to listen to a theists making me look bad via commonality.

@cloroxbleach6344

2 ай бұрын

Hey Alex! Throughout your video you say something to the effect of “I’ve already talked about this”; would you mind linking to videos where you have talked about those subjects so that those wanting to follow up may more easily navigate to them? Thanks. Btw I’ve been watching your videos for the last 6 years and have only just subscribed for some reason. I might have already subscribed with a different channel, although I’m not sure. I’m Muslim, but your content has been a wellspring of reference points for my curiosity. You have a degree of what Muslims call adab, and so I appreciate your work. Edit: if you could do a video with Hasan Spiker that could be quite cool as well

But redeemed zoomer depicted theist as chads, and athiest as soyjacks. So he must be right

@littlebitofhope1489

2 ай бұрын

What is a "soyjack"?

@LBatter

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@eliasbonafe9236

2 ай бұрын

Yeah man I hate that rethoric, even if it's just visual. Intellectual dishonesty.

@ZuoCruz

2 ай бұрын

That’s when u know u need to touch grass

@70othl3ss4

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, i was so confused as to why alex was making a vid on this. He already portrayed himself as a chad, so he's pretty much factually correct...

i love that all supernatural events are either never recorded or recorded on a flip phone from 2005 by a person with severe parkinsons

@crazynachos4230

2 ай бұрын

And there is no in-between, at least not for anything even slightly believable

@doyoufeel...thatyoulackcri6760

2 ай бұрын

@@crazynachos4230 like... when pdf file atheists claim that men can give birth? and nowhere in history til now has this been true?

@atheistreligionandislameis4455

2 ай бұрын

@@crazynachos4230 like... when pdf file atheists claim that men can give birth?

@directren7762

2 ай бұрын

Yeah. Let's just have Moses pull out his flip phone to record him parting the Red Sea.

@SpinoMedia

2 ай бұрын

@@directren7762I uhh don’t think that’s what he meant

Whenever religion is proven to be scientifically unworkable, then all-of-a-sudden, it becomes a metaphor, symbolism, not literal, you weren't supposed to take it seriously.

@spadigy3371

Ай бұрын

Then what is the RELIABLE way of determining when something is metaphorical or literal in religion?

@tagus100

Ай бұрын

@@spadigy3371 I just go off what the people who believe in the religion tell me. I get told that the Bible is objective truth and that it really happened. I have some problems with it, so I start asking critical questions about their beliefs and it all falls apart, that's when they trot out that line. It doesn't make sense.

@spadigy3371

Ай бұрын

@tagus100 Exactly, that's the thing, the Bible includes things like slavery, child abuse, etc... which obviously in religion cannot be taken literally or else it presents a horrible image. But if we take everything figuratively in the Bible then the Bible would basically say nothing, and just be a bunch of poetry.

@spadigy3371

Ай бұрын

@tagus100 Exactly that's the thing. If we take everything the Bible says literally that would leave Christianity in a really bad position. If we take everything figuratively then the Bible says nothing and it's just a bunch of poetry. You need to ask yourself "Why do I REALLY feel God exists?", and "What really makes me believe in it?".

@tagus100

Ай бұрын

@@spadigy3371 Interesting points.

I like how alex is much more mature, using a monotone voice and perfect proofs instead of meme templates and comic sans font dialogues

@tallbeanerboi6915

Ай бұрын

I think the meme templates and comic sans dialogue are just his style of video formatting. But I can definitely see how that could make him look foolish when trying to make a formal argument.

@atheistreligionandislameis4455

Ай бұрын

Is there anything worse than flaming homosexual pdf file atheists boning kids?

@c.jishnu378

Ай бұрын

Underrated.

@kostas0352

26 күн бұрын

The tone of the voice and the templates don't matter at all, only what they say, you confirmed that you can be EASILY manipulated.

@Lord_Marquaad

26 күн бұрын

​@@kostas0352Redeemed zoomer adopts the ironic unrefined class presentation aesthetic that I adore, so I don't at all disapprove it.

Lmao, "Why does evil exist at all?" "So God can look good while defeating it" Fucking brilliant hahaha

@Uhshawdude

2 ай бұрын

Yeah when people do that we call it Hero Syndrome and rightfully label it a psychological disorder. Causing suffering just so you can be praised for overcoming it is generally considered manipulative and harmful when people do it, but God, the ultimate good, gets a pass? Should he not be the ultimate example of good? Why must we make excuses for a perfect being?

@atheistreligionandislameis4455

2 ай бұрын

There is not any concept od good and evil in pdf file atheist religion, because in this religion everything is based on destiny. Words like evil, sin, guilt, shameful, even words like forgiveness, they makle no sense to any atheist, because these words imply accountability and responisbility. This is why according to atheist religion, it wasn't evil when lenin tortured people.

@sunbleachedangel

2 ай бұрын

@@atheistreligionandislameis4455 yeah, okay, grandpa, whatever you say, just don't forget your pills next time

@atheistreligionandislameis4455

2 ай бұрын

@@sunbleachedangel pdf file atheist richard dorkins said: I do believe it is a good idea to try out different drugs and experience what they do to my brain. Now, why does dorkins promote drugs? To kids too? Because he feels no accountability, no responsibility, nothing matters, there is zero meaning to his life. Because everything for him is destiny anyways, he cannot change anyhthing.

@bigcoffinhunter5500

2 ай бұрын

​@@atheistreligionandislameis4455who the actual fuck cares what Richard Dawkins said? He doesn't represent anyone but himself.

5 hours after this was posted, Zoomer pinned a comment that claimed the video wasn't meant to be taken seriously. His video is a month old, he pinned the comment to deflect all criticism. Edit: This comment has become more popular than I thought, so I would like to clarify my position. Zoomer's video was out for 1 month before Alex's video and he received plenty of responses from other youtubers. For 5 hours Alex's video had been out and the only elusion to his video being a joke was that he pinned a comment that thought his video is a joke. I believe he did this for the sake of plausible deniability, he wanted to have people mock atheists for taking it seriously but have people feel like the video should to some degree represent atheists in a degrading way. Furthering this idea, he would post "RESPONSE to criticism of my atheism video" in which he backpedaled further, saying the video was a bad take because he was a shortform channel, making no acknowledgement that the video was ever a joke, because if he did he'd lose that plausible deniability. Don't bother flaming him for this, it just fuels the Christian persecution complex and gives him exposure. Instead, support secular historians like UsefulCharts and ReligionForBreakfast, especially since Zoomer doesn't like "some secular scholars".

@PatrickWDunne

2 ай бұрын

I've never seen someone get so cooked by their own comment section lol

@luyombojonathan6688

2 ай бұрын

🤓🤓🤓 well put

@bobcousins4810

2 ай бұрын

I guess the Bible was not meant to be taken seriously either.

@damienzht

2 ай бұрын

I think the same. Imagine a few people just writing about an jewish man and get glorified for 2000years as matthew, luke,... and be a word of god.@@bobcousins4810

@ShazWag

2 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

Atheist vs Christian arguments are honestly so entertaining to watch

@giuffre714

11 күн бұрын

Because we're in the Matrix 😀

@TerryElioth

3 күн бұрын

Because in everyday life, it does not matter.

@eytnom

2 күн бұрын

They are based on unprovable beliefs. No one can prove or disprove the existence of God. If God exists and created everything then how can you test or measure him. It is impossible. So the debate will go on.

@Januaryof28

2 күн бұрын

​@@eytnomits all about personal truth because reality is complex

@choombas

Күн бұрын

@@eytnomThe debate will end whenever Christians learn about burden of proof

the fact that redeemed zoomer's video was 10 minutes long and this one is 40 minutes is an incredibly succinct illustration of why misinformation is so hard to combat.

@coolcatcastle8

Ай бұрын

damn, that's actually a really good point.

@FrogMasterToby-ce5nh

Ай бұрын

What if it took 40m because he spent so long telling us why these dumb arguements are bad and wrong.

@coolcatcastle8

Ай бұрын

@@FrogMasterToby-ce5nh he did because unlike the other video, he actually goes into sheer depth and detail about the information

@panampace

Ай бұрын

@@FrogMasterToby-ce5nh That’s exactly what we’re saying. It takes a long time to explain something fully but misinformation spreads like wildfire. There’s an old phrase “a lie has gone around the world by the time the truth has gotten its pants on”

@atheistreligionandislameis4455

Ай бұрын

According to atheist prophet richard dorkins _(salaa allah ealayh),_ there's nothing wrong about incest. And this is divine revelation, so any atheist has to believe it. Now, following this logic, What is then wrong about necrophilia and cannibalism? Who exactly are harmed when pdf file atheists bone dead people then eat them? The cannot feel any pain when they're dead anyways, so what harm? And, do atheists cook human meat before eating? Or eat raw?

He brought it back to the cosmicskeptic days with this one

@edwardoapc

2 ай бұрын

Don't you mean Alex from the Old Testament?

@thedcsignal

2 ай бұрын

CSMC SKPTC I believe is the original Hebrew.

@GaganSingh-nx2yv

2 ай бұрын

​@@edwardoapcthat made me laugh for real. nice one.

@mekullag9787

2 ай бұрын

⁠@@edwardoapc remember that the savegery of OT Alex is not reflective of who he truly is, which he has revealed only later through his podcast. Also pay no mind to the CosmicSkeptic Subs who still insist that Alex O‘Connor is a different channel, if you closely examine the OT videos you‘ll see that the coming of Alex O‘Connor was actually always what it was leading up to.

@memoryhero

2 ай бұрын

@@mekullag9787 Yeah, that's all fine and good but me and a few friends have actually legitimately identified the present-day fandom of Alex O'Connor to have lost its way and strayed from the purity of the true Alex O'Connor message and so, not to disparage you but to illuminate what Alex O'Connor has clearly always really meant, I've nailed... er, scraped together a 95-video playlist which articulates the TRUE message in its original and fulsome detail.

The “we deserve suffering” argument sounds extremely death cultish

@athrowawayperson9990

2 ай бұрын

sounds like an abusive relationship, don't it

@baileyharrison1030

2 ай бұрын

It’s a fundamental part of the Christian faith, and most other faiths for that matter. Calling Christianity death cultish makes no sense since Christians consider suffering in hell to be the absolute worst state someone can be in. And killing yourself is a major sin in Christianity anyway. Everybody has a responsibility to make the world a better place and do as much good as they can before they die. Killing yourself in some cult ceremony would completely oppose that.

@You2lessgetit

2 ай бұрын

As a Christian I agree. God did not create us evil, He created us good. Everything He created in the 6 days (doesn't have to be literal), He called "Good." Including HUMANS. (Genesis 1:1-30) He knew something was off when He just created man, so He created a woman. That doesn't mean that man was bad but that something was missing and that is why He created women. Humans only become "bad" when they turn away from God. God created each of us with an amazing purpose and it is good, it is us that chooses to turn from it. And that doesn't mean we are "evil", it just means that we are not as good as God. And since you are comparing humans to a being that is infinitely good, we are evil. Not because we are evil but because God is so much more good than us, the gap is so big, that we are like evil. We are so far from the goodness from God, that our goodness is like the difference between saving a person from a house fire and setting a house on fire. It is not that we deserve suffering but that following Christ requires sacrifice. "In this world you will have many trials and tribulations, but take heart; I have overcome the world!" - Jesus In a world that is full of evil, when we choose good, we are natrually gonna suffer. "It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us." However, for something like cancer that is uncontrollable, there is a scientific cause for that. Sometimes, there are things we just can't control. That is not that God doesn't care (psalm 56:8), but that unfortunate things such as sickness are a result of the fallen world we live in. With that sickeness that God didn't create, He doesn't just say "screw you, you deal with that.", He helps those who are in need. All He requires is that you follow Him, not because He only cares about those who follow Him but that He knows what is best for us, so if we follow Him, we are gonna be helping ourselves. It is like a doctor who recommends taking medicine, it is not that they only care about patients who take their medicine but they care about everyone and is providing a solution to everyone. It is the exact same thing as God. Because if you rely on yourself to help you, it is destined to fail. Sure, falling short doesn't mean you can't help yourself at all but you can't help yourself to the extent if you went to the one who is infinitely wise to help you. (Romans 5:3-5, Romans 8:28) It is not that we deserve the evil that happens to us, evil like cancer just happen and we cannot control that. But God has offered healing, but we choose to ignore God and that is why our suffering persists. We are ignoring solutions to our suffering, it is right in front of our eyes but we do not believe. "Then the diciples went to Jesus in private and asked, 'Why couldn't we drive it out?' Jesus replied, 'Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as little as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain: move from here to there, and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.'" Matthew 17:19-20 I hope this helps but if it doesn't, please let me know

@Afiriss

2 ай бұрын

@@You2lessgetitI aint reading allat

@atheistreligionandislameis4455

2 ай бұрын

@@athrowawayperson9990 Like... when pdf file atheist mao said everyone needs suffering? And stalin said the same? And lenin said the same?

“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” ― Voltaire

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363

3 күн бұрын

WHAT IS HE MEANING OF LIFE? To have a relationship with God on earth so you can spend eternity together in Heaven. So, what pushes me away from God? Sin (lying, unforgiveness, sexual sins from lust, dishonouring parents, steeling, taking the Lord’s Name in vain etc) which leads to hell. But Jesus died on the Cross and rose from the dead to give you the ability to repent and Believe in Him as your Lord and Saviour to go to Heaven. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

@chriskoczka216

3 күн бұрын

@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 There is no such thing as sin. There is no god, other than the fictional genocidal monster in the bible. The bible is the worst pornographic genocidal fiction written by some of the worlds most ignorant persons, none that ever met any of the biblical characters. It is all just bad fiction like the Easter bunny, Santa Claus, and batman.

"'Anonymous' doesn't mean we have no idea who wrote them." That's _literally_ what it means.

@chidaluaustin-dum2452

18 күн бұрын

That’s not what it means. Because the text doesn’t contain the writers name doesn’t mean the early readers and us today couldn’t confirm the authors.

@SimonWoodburyForget

13 күн бұрын

You live in 2024 and use the internet... how the hell can you say that.... with a straight face? Anonymous doesn't mean Google doesn't know your identity and where you live. Anonymous means having an unknown or unacknowledged name. For example: lets say you take a picture of your house anonymously, it doesn't mean some smart person can't look for clues in the picture and make a deduction about exactly where the picture was taken and who might've taken it.

@EternalShiningRadiance

11 күн бұрын

@@chidaluaustin-dum2452 Merriam Webster: Anonymous - of unknown authorship or origin Also, people don't 100% know and the "evidence" is flimsy at best and laughable at worse. Christians need to pick up a book ffs. Oh wait, they don't even read their own book 💀

@tomasrocha6139

8 күн бұрын

It can mean an author is unidentified within a text.

@GreenGamer69

2 күн бұрын

@@chidaluaustin-dum2452 anonymous is hiding your identity so take that as you will

27:37 I distinctly remember in like grade 3 a kid told a story about how her grandma recovered from cancer and the teacher said something like “God wanted her to live, god is good” and this other kid was like “my grandpa died of cancer”

@markcollins2704

2 ай бұрын

What is this actually supposed to mean or prove

@ianr3568

2 ай бұрын

@@markcollins2704that god might be an asshole

@Ibis_W0lfie

2 ай бұрын

@@markcollins2704 Idk I was like 9 but I think the teacher was like "oh god brought him to heaven early" or smth

@Sa1tyCaramel

2 ай бұрын

The teacher was humbled real quick💀

@adamplentl5588

2 ай бұрын

​That theists see their deity in events where it is demonstrably absent. ​@@markcollins2704

This was originally a joke about the guy painting athiests as the soyjak and himself as the chad. I don't know what in all hell happened in the replies but go through it at your own discretion.

@sofia.eris.bauhaus

2 ай бұрын

and he didn't even use the greatest weakness of all atheism: the fedora.

@theseus0467

2 ай бұрын

@@sofia.eris.bauhaus if you ever meet a christain in a fedora, run.

@AJMurgo-ce1cp

2 ай бұрын

@@theseus0467they have the power of God and anime on their side

@mugsofmirth8101

2 ай бұрын

@@sofia.eris.bauhaus so fedora is now a code word for "lack of arguments" and "lack of evidence"? Good to know. 😉

@theseus0467

2 ай бұрын

@@mugsofmirth8101 fedora BAD!

I'm a devout Catholic and I really enjoyed this video you were calm and respectful and just put your side plainly thank you

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363

3 күн бұрын

WHAT IS HE MEANING OF LIFE? To have a relationship with God on earth so you can spend eternity together in Heaven. So, what pushes me away from God? Sin (lying, unforgiveness, sexual sins from lust, dishonouring parents, steeling, taking the Lord’s Name in vain etc) which leads to hell. But Jesus died on the Cross and rose from the dead to give you the ability to repent and Believe in Him as your Lord and Saviour to go to Heaven. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

You are astonishingly generous to these "arguments."

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363

3 күн бұрын

WHAT IS HE MEANING OF LIFE? To have a relationship with God on earth so you can spend eternity together in Heaven. So, what pushes me away from God? Sin (lying, unforgiveness, sexual sins from lust, dishonouring parents, steeling, taking the Lord’s Name in vain etc) which leads to hell. But Jesus died on the Cross and rose from the dead to give you the ability to repent and Believe in Him as your Lord and Saviour to go to Heaven. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

“Evil exists so god can be glorified in defeating it” So…god allows evil to exist to stroke his own ego?

@NaNNaNNaNNaNNaN

2 ай бұрын

​@@czechballmappingexcept "God" is supposed to be perfect... At least by religious standarts

@svyatoyaleksnevskiy

2 ай бұрын

That’s it. If God himself is not perfect, how can we put our trust in his supposedly objective morality?

@gustavfant8047

2 ай бұрын

Don't take my word on this because I am not very educated on Christianity but how I see it is that evil exists in this place to prepare our soul before entering Heaven. This might be very incorrect so idk lol

@Barry.Hughes

2 ай бұрын

@@gustavfant8047 that might be true but that would still be God's fault, if evil is necessary to prepare our souls before entering Heaven, God should create a better way into Heaven.

@randomname-cc9hc

2 ай бұрын

Why not? He is God, he just can do that stuff

"Science has no bearing on whether or not god exists." "There are medical records of demonic possessions." Pick one.

@andyferari6478

2 ай бұрын

I pick Reality and reality is that without God there is no hope to survive world war 3

@campbellsadeghy213

2 ай бұрын

@@andyferari6478no you pick fantasy because you have chosen to believe in an illusion you’ve created which centers yourself at the forefront of all knowledge by pretending you know if God exists or not and if WW3 will happen and what will happen during it. You know nothing of that. Sit down and humble yourself.

@andyferari6478

2 ай бұрын

@@campbellsadeghy213 I know a messiah is gonna come and you’re gonna be humbled and I’m not pretending or playing with you but I am doing what Noah did before the flood came you know that I’m right and I know you’re gonna be judged by God and than we’ll see if I’m playing fantasy

@JT-yl9yt

2 ай бұрын

​@andyferari6478 we have been seeing this for 2000+ years God must be incredibly slow not to act fast enough 😂

@andyferari6478

2 ай бұрын

@@JT-yl9yt or maybe patient like he did with the flood But Let me tell you something and that is if you really care about yourself and what’s gonna you will believe in god and accept the 7 commandments of Noah because it’s a matter of days before the point of no return when messiah comes

As a Christian, respect for respecting all of the communities. No need to fight.

@hertzzgames

Ай бұрын

hell yeah brother

@rangopistacho6928

Ай бұрын

its nice to see not all of you are crazy zealots, peace from a humanist

@elpepeetesech5405

Ай бұрын

Finally some Christians that make me have faith for Internet Christians.

@sannmayy

Ай бұрын

​@@rangopistacho6928 It goes both ways. Alex is a breath of fresh air to the common atheist zealots I meet daily. Peace from a Christian.

@atheistreligionandislameis4455

Ай бұрын

Noone more evil than pdf file atheists

3:47 Nah I was born and raised in the middle east as a Muslim and I found my way to atheism even before I learned to speak a word of English. Maybe where you were born might change the religion you start with, but all it takes to become an atheist is using your brain, regardless of where you are.

@wikipiiimp9420

11 күн бұрын

tbf it's much more likely to become an atheist if you live in an environment where you have access to the tool for critical thinkings. which is why atheists are more prevalent in high education and academics compared to the people with lower education and lack of access to education sociology also show that harsh environment increase religious fervor (which include natural disasters, poverty, war, etc) so living in a stable, wealthy and free country increase the likelyhood of being atheist. both those factors (better education and economic prosperity) also goes hand in hand, which explain why wealthy western countries are much more likely to have atheism compared to let's say, very poor and unstable countries like in africa or the middle east. this don't mean that there are no religious fundies in the west, or no atheists in africa or the ME, just that the odds vary depending on the environment. also obviously if there is a state sponsored ideology, this increase the likelyhood of said ideology and belief system to be more prevalent (more christian in a christian theocracy, most atheists in a communist regime for example) and also, atheists are more numerous in free countries / democracies and secular nations (like western europe or the US) because freedom of speech protect freedom to criticize religious idea and therefore atheists are more likely to spread their message (which explain the fast increase in atheism in the us for example, but not in saudi arabia despite saudi arabia being also wealthy with good education, because of the massive censorship and propaganda in authoritarian regimes) of course there can be exceptions, like there can be exception to any other form of socioeconomic dynamics like you can have someone from a very poor neighborhood that will become a nobel prize, but if you see more nobel prizes from the US than from let's say Nigeria, it's not because the US inhabitants are better (which would be a stupid racist claim btw), but because this country is richer, and thefore can fund better education, good universities and also fund the research that is needed for scientific endeavors, and also because the US have a big, advanced private and public sector in fields such as information technology (silicon valley) and a big defense budget which boost research in scientific fields such as semiconductors, advanced materials, aeronautics and space, biology, nuclear energy, etc while Nigeria is not as lucky regarding their economic means, which mean much fewer opportunities for someone to become a scientist, and then to make some discovery.

@vsdariuss

7 күн бұрын

you’re a fuc*ing legend.

5:33 is such a baffling argument because no shit evolution can’t explain physics, they’re different fields

@mithilbhoras5951

2 ай бұрын

I don't really think so since evolution happens of physical biological systems no? Evolution is also bound by the laws of physics the same way all matter in the universe is

@BenDover-fv5lz

2 ай бұрын

@@mithilbhoras5951bro is just yapping

@mrpineapple3942

2 ай бұрын

@@BenDover-fv5lz No. Evolution is affected by physics. Do you think the laws of physics do not apply on a molecular level? If so, then you're certainly one to be talking.

@doyoufeel...thatyoulackcri6760

2 ай бұрын

According to atheist religion, What is wrong about incest? What is wrong about cannibalism? What is wrong about necrophilia?

@BenDover-fv5lz

2 ай бұрын

@@doyoufeel...thatyoulackcri6760 buddy atheism isent a religion

"You gotta have faith, baby." Wasn't expecting that.

@largefam3109

2 ай бұрын

Look at those jade green eyes, how could you not have faith in Alex?

@ionasmith1998

2 ай бұрын

Made me blush ngl.

@ArekDod

2 ай бұрын

Not gonna lie I replayed that part several times. ☠️☠️

@IrishIwasJewish

2 ай бұрын

white men most beautiful bro​@@largefam3109

@marishasveganworld2240

2 ай бұрын

We didn’t expect it but we certainly loved it 😂

you speak with so much clarity, it's very satisfying

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363

10 күн бұрын

All Humans need to repent & Believe in Jesus as their God. Why? Because all Humans have sinned (lied, lusted sexually, stolen, dishonoured parents, unbelief etc). Avoid the fires of Hell (justice of God) and choose Heaven today. Jesus defeated death by rising from the dead. GOD IS HOLY

As a Christian I really enjoyed this video. I'm amazed by the in-depth research you've made for the video and you literally bought the book RZ showed on screen. Admire your skepticism and always seeking the truth. Honestly RZ needs more explanation in his video instead of rushing it within 10 minutes.

@davidutullakatos637

2 ай бұрын

RZ did a Speedrun lmao

@saldiven2009

2 ай бұрын

I'm willing to bet that Alex read more of that book than RZ did to prepare for their respective videos. Honestly, it seems like Alex knows more about Christianity in general than RZ does.

@seaTp736

2 ай бұрын

@@davidutullakatos637 "Hey atheists wanna see me speedrun??!"

@davidutullakatos637

2 ай бұрын

@@seaTp736 pretty much lmao

@ish_

2 ай бұрын

@@davidutullakatos637 prove god any% in 9:05 by Redeemed Zoomer

5:29 Had me cracking up when Redeemed Zoomer tries to make the point that Darwinian Evolution can't explain gravity and nuclear force, which are completely different and unrelated fields of science to that of biology.

@PatrickWDunne

2 ай бұрын

It reminds me of how Christians will say stuff like "if you're an atheist can you explain XYZ? You can't? Haha that proves I'm right and you're wrong!"

@xx_amongus_xx6987

2 ай бұрын

@@PatrickWDunne That is a fair thing to be annoyed with, but you should be more aware of when atheists do the same thing. "If you're religious, can you explain XYZ? You can't? Haha that proves your entire religion is false and I am right!" It is important to not be hypocritical.

@DrWrapperband

2 ай бұрын

Wow, he proved Atheism, the Bible doesn't either?

@TheEsutan

2 ай бұрын

​@xx_amongus_xx6987 yeah you're right, both sides can be bad at arguing sometimes. I think it's just a human problem rather than an atheist or theist problem.

@oldsnake9520

2 ай бұрын

Exactly that’s like saying calculus can’t solve the problem of evil and is therefore not true.

Fantastic stuff, Alex. Super interesting content.

"It causes war." "Only 7% of them!" "Okay, that's still causing wars though, so... also, citation required."

@kaseymills1387

2 ай бұрын

Encyclopedia of wars

@darkeen42

2 ай бұрын

Well considering the Nazis use the Bible to justification their hate of Jews and had on their belt buckles God is on our side I think we can count to count that one can't we.

@Terriblyexplainingcomics

2 ай бұрын

Google is free

@zoha3472

2 ай бұрын

I didn’t think this made any sense. Wars happen. It’s the the way of the world. Why does it question the existence of religion?

@Niko-zg6uq

2 ай бұрын

Are you fr? And yet when you guys say "religion causes wars" you make it out to be like they cause 80% of wars. This is mainly an emotional argument and RZ was demonstrating and removing the blow. You can't in good consistency suggest that 7% of caused wars, therefore religion is harmful to society while overlooking 93% of wars caused by secular reasons

I'm a devout Christian and I like Alex O'Connor. He clearly makes his living arguing for Atheism and yet he treats Christianity with respect. This goes a long way.

@CeramicShot

2 ай бұрын

Why are you a Christian?

@pwade4061

2 ай бұрын

You're clearly a curious and educated Christian just due to the fact that you're watching this video and exposing yourself to different arguments. Respect is definitely important too. But he isn't so much arguing "for atheism" it's just that applying critical thinking to religion results in non-belief b/c the only logical conclusion is that it's not true. For example you are non-believer in Islam exactly the same amount I am.

@odcrl1

2 ай бұрын

@@pwade4061Wrong, actually. It's two opposite things.

@atheistreligionandislameis4455

2 ай бұрын

@@pwade4061 like... when pdf file atheists claim that men can give birth and nowhere in history has this been true?

@Brave-tamer

2 ай бұрын

​@@atheistreligionandislameis4455 when was this ever claimed or are we talking about trans men

Great video and brilliantly articulate in your responses.

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363

10 күн бұрын

All Humans need to repent & Believe in Jesus as their God. Why? Because all Humans have sinned (lied, lusted sexually, stolen, dishonoured parents, unbelief etc). Avoid the fires of Hell (justice of God) and choose Heaven today. Jesus defeated death by rising from the dead. GOD IS HOLY

15:35 As a Christian, when I saw that video for the first time, I was scared how I disagreed with Redeemed zoomer on so many points, and had to pause to say something about every point. Now that I’ve seen your video, I now know he didn’t fully know what he was talking about. Weird how the arguments I had were similar, and sometimes exactly the same as yours. Also, I like how this comment section is so mature about the whole thing (for the most part).

@imapersonnotanumber8940

6 күн бұрын

if a ventriloquist dies does his dummy go to heaven? Bart Simpson

I'm an orthodox Christian, and I find Alex's rebuttals far better than Redeemed Zoomer's silly arguments.

@justanotheropinion5832

2 ай бұрын

Would you mind chiming in on the “fine tuned” argument? I’ve never understood the logic and Alex kind of skimmed over it in this video. To me it amounts to “if things were any different, they’d be different” or the “this rain was finely tuned to fit this hole” metaphor. There are hundreds of thousands of planets in our galaxy alone that could sustain life. The logic doesn’t follow, and facts like this make the argument itself pretty weak. Can you give me your Christian point of view? I’d like to understand better

@allthenewsordeath5772

2 ай бұрын

@@justanotheropinion5832 Well the fine tuning argument still holds owing to the nature of humans, that is well there may be thousands of planets in the galaxy that can support life, there are many fewer that could support complex life, and still fewer that could support intelligent life, and as far as we are aware, earth is the only planet ware intelligent life has evolved, we will define intelligent here as being smart enough to comprehend our own existence. In short though the theist and the atheist both agree on the central point of the matter, namely, that the probability of us having this discussion right now, under the circumstances is ridiculously, astronomically, infantecimally small, the primary difference though is that the atheist regards this as mere chance, and the theist regards it as divine providence . We could actually broaden this out to encompass not only fine-tuning arguments, but the argument of God supposedly not being discernible in the universe, since we only have a sample size of one we don’t actually know through what we can observe if a universe made by God looks substantially different from a universe which appears Spontaneously. Because though at its logical conclusion this line of argumentation points towards agnosticism, rather than theism or atheism, people don’t tend to bring it up that much.

@danielwoodruff3118

2 ай бұрын

@@justanotheropinion5832 I want to preface this response by saying that I am not a credentialed expert in physics or cosmology. My knowledge on this topic comes from the scientific literature I've read in my personal study. I also don't believe fine-tuning is the most compelling case for the Christian God. However, to answer your question, the argument goes something like this: Modern physics recognizes a set of universal constants. These fundamental quantities are independent and not derived from anything else. Properties such as the strength of steel or the rate of heat transfer through glass are dependent. They are effects caused by a combination of other factors. Independent constants such as the elementary charge of a proton, the Planck constant, or the speed of light in a vacuum are not the result of other forces or effects. They are hard-coded at the most fundamental levels of reality. Modern science currently recognizes more than twenty of these constants. Fine-tuning arguments look at these and other factors that influence the nature of the universe. According to the fine-tuning argument, the exact quantity of each physical constant and the respective ratios must all be precisely as they are for life to exist. In most cases, the tiniest change to one of these constants would not only prohibit life as we know it but would make most forms of matter impossible too. Our universe is not merely tuned to allow for some kind of life, but it seems to be arranged in the only way allowing for any life at all. Again, I don't believe this to be the strongest case for Christianity, but it definitely carries some weight. Dr. John Lennox of Oxford University wrote a book on the subject I would highly recommend: Cosmic Chemistry: Do God and Science Mix? It's a scholarly read that dissects this issue in much greater detail.

@Smilejustsmilebby

2 ай бұрын

​@@justanotheropinion5832how do you conclude they're hundrr3ds and thousands of planets that can sustain life? When life off of earth has never been found and elements such as the vacuum, extreme temperatures, and lack of a significant atmosphere

@allrequiredfields

2 ай бұрын

​@@Smilejustsmilebby"Could sustain" isn't saying 'there's life there' or life 'probably' exists there - it's simply saying it has the **prerequisites** for life.

"You are flawed, you are evil and deserve every bad thing happening to you. You are nothing without God." This sounds like an abusive relationship. Imagine telling someone this and be confused why people don't like religion.

@littlebitofhope1489

2 ай бұрын

Especially when the person who made you flawed is the one punishing you for it.

@scottm4975

2 ай бұрын

Do you believe you aren’t flawed? Do you believe you have some special right to not have bad things happen to you? Do you believe you have some inherent worth? If so how could you possibly rationalize any of those beliefs?

@absolutelynobodycares

2 ай бұрын

​@@scottm4975 One of the fundamentals of being human is being flawed and making mistakes. If God created us, why would God punish us for what he did? That's where the logic falls.

@bingbong8239

2 ай бұрын

@@scottm4975 By "flawed" I am obviously talking in the sense of "There is something inherently wrong with you since birth and that makes you pathetic and wrong and could only be cleansed in the hands of God." Religious people, like abusers, tend to degrade people in ways to destroy their self esteem in order to make them cling to something that gives them a sense of worth. That being, their religion.

@rorybessell8280

2 ай бұрын

​@@scottm4975Of course I believe people have flaws, that doesn't make the sentiment any less grotesque. An all-powerful god's favourite creation are these inherently flawed, evil beings and he ensures they suffer as that is what flawed beings deserve. That's a horrific concept, it would be like humans breeding a species, waiting for some of its members to do something we don't like and then punishing every single other being we breed for that action and then claiming that it's an example of moral perfection. It is not an atheist belief that we deserve to not suffer or have bad things happen to us, that is exactly what is expected in a world with no god. However, if there is a perfect, all-loving being, then this is the opposite to what one would expect

This is a really thoughtful way to approach this kind of topic. I'm a religious studies major and part of a secular student alliance branch on my campus and the amount of friction it causes on both ends makes it difficult to have thoughtful dialogues like this. I appreciate that you admit sometimes that you agree with the perspectives! I often agree with some perspectives of religious people but this tends to cause issues with my secular friends. But agreeing with more secular perspectives leads to issues with religious people I run into as well. Seeing this argued in this way was really a nice change from the usual atheist arguments I run into. Thank you for this video!

@lucaskohn5457

2 ай бұрын

I disagree. Zoomer's video was extremely shallow, and, up until 3 min in, Alex's response was equally shallow. Maybe he improves on the deepness of his arguments later down the line but start really desapointed me. The initial discussion is about religion and violence and there I outlined in three long pragraphs why I found Alex's response dishonest for staying on a surfface level discussion because this could help his argument, while Zoomer's video wasn't nearly as serious as this one was meant to be. And just for clarification, I find myself in a symilar position to you, agreeing with both religious and secular arguments... but with no freinds annoyong me about it. Also I could show you my argument here but it is pretty long so I decided against it, you can look for it in the comment section if you want, posted yesterday. Have nice day, sit!

@imapersonnotanumber8940

11 күн бұрын

I hope you widen your references and reading matter..what topic is he expressing? shallow and not well informed or read, this is Sunday school stuff for kids....

@lucaskohn5457

11 күн бұрын

@@imapersonnotanumber8940 I don't really get your point. I expressely didn't state my argument because it is long but here is the TL;DR: zoomer says "only [small number]% of wars were caused by religion, therefore religion good (or better than what atheists claim)" and Alex's response is "religion should cause NO violence AT ALL! Since a small % of violence is caused religion this means religion bad (or inefective at stoping violence)". My reason for saying Alex's response was shallow is that it is pretty obvious that not every war that said "we do this for [insert religion here]" were motivated by principles or the core tenets or even by predatory cult tactics. Most of the time these were justifications for the masses to better accept this political move, but, more often than not, combatants were motivated by the material prizes they could gain by joining a certain war, like the cruzades or even the islamic wars that all had some sort of material prize, such as immense fortune, as potential rewards for fighting. If Alex had gone just a little beyond the surface in his argument he would need to concied this point. In a similarly oversimplification I could say that democracy is bad because the US has gone into plenty wars "for democarcy", therefore democracy bad (or contradictory since it is suposed to be a system based in freedom, but in this example it is being enforced to a country by another). Even 'peace' can be considered a bad thing because it has been used as an excuse for wars! Also, if "this is Sunday school stuff for kids" why bother answering? It is not like it would reach the same public zoomer reaches, so it wouldn't "educate the kids" who follow him, only would "make fun" of zoomer to an atheist audience or pose as a serious video responding to a "child's play". And I indeed expected more of Alex here, the guy has a degree in theology, talks about philosophy from time to time but seemed to lack critical thinking (or honesty, wich I consider worse) in this video to make a propper response. But keep in mind I only watched 3 minutes of the video. Maybe he improves later down the line, but I felt extremely disapointed with his first arguments because of how black-and-white they were on an aparently serious video responding to a clearly dumb video. I'm sorry if you dislike my opnion but I doubt you or anyone can excuse this mess. And more reading only grants knowledge, but not the ability to think, and the later was the only one I needed here.

Alex looks much healthier since he stopped being a vegan

The fact that people unambiguously label Hitler as an atheist is so crazy. I’ve literally seen memes where they label him an atheist to show how bad atheists are, yet to my knowledge he never called himself one and there’s pretty strong evidence pointing towards him not being one. But, in the case of Hitler, his religious beliefs are a bit difficult to determine for sure, but to just conclude that he must have been an atheist is totally unfair.

@akshatgupta4817

2 ай бұрын

It doesn't even matter if he was atheist though because he was guided by his hatred of Jews communists, disabled people etc.

@eruantien9932

2 ай бұрын

I think it comes from the opposition of the Roman Catholic Church in Germany, and many Protestant churches, towards the Nazis, right from the formation of the party in the 1920s; and the Nazi party's desire to have the church subordinate to the state (because they opposed any and all independent power structures). And then you've got prominent Nazis, such as Bormann, who hated the Semitic origins of Christianity. But, of course, that doesn't mean that the majority of the party, including senior members, weren't Christian. They just weren't part of any extant church. "The Party stands on the basis of Positive Christianity, and positive Christianity is National Socialism ... National Socialism is the doing of God's will ... Christianity is not dependent upon the Apostles' Creed ... True Christianity is represented by the party, and the German people are now called by the party and especially the Fuehrer to a real Christianity" - Hanns Kerrl, 1937 The plan to "de-Christianise Germany after the final victory" described by the likes of Anton Gill(1) wasn't one to make Germany an atheist state, but one to abolish any church that wasn't The Party. (1) Anton Gil is a British author who wrote fiction and non-fiction, including three Assassin's Creed books under a pseudonym. He won the H.H. Wingate Award for non-fiction for The Journey Back From Hell, an account of the lives of survivors of the Nazi concentration camps.

@sciencefliestothemoon2305

2 ай бұрын

​@eruantien9932 the Vatican was rather cooperative to get Nazis to South America at the end of the war. There is a book telling the story of such a failed effort called "the rat line"

@DrWrapperband

2 ай бұрын

Why is it we're not allowed to call people fascist who are doing a Genocide because we could insult their cult by the truth, yet they can say we're the same as Hitler and no one bats an eyelid???

@Swagxxe

2 ай бұрын

If Hitler where a Christian he did not act like one lol. I think there is quite strong evidence for it.

Redeemed zoomer won the olympic gold medal for his mental gymnastic.

@svyatoyaleksnevskiy

2 ай бұрын

He turned himself into a pretzel, that's for sure.

@muslimsrememberapostacyday556

2 ай бұрын

How can it be, that atheist religion takes first place in genocide anywhere in history? What is it in this religion, which makes its pdf file followers excell in slaughter?

@Juju3947

Ай бұрын

Redeemed zoomer truly the mayor of yappsville

7:48 dunno about you but i would honestly record someone who was levitating for legit half a hour straight

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363

3 күн бұрын

WHAT IS HE MEANING OF LIFE? To have a relationship with God on earth so you can spend eternity together in Heaven. So, what pushes me away from God? Sin (lying, unforgiveness, sexual sins from lust, dishonouring parents, steeling, taking the Lord’s Name in vain etc) which leads to hell. But Jesus died on the Cross and rose from the dead to give you the ability to repent and Believe in Him as your Lord and Saviour to go to Heaven. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Even if this God was real, I kinda find it hard to wrap my head around worshipping a God that kills children with cancer "because they deserve it". Sounds kind of like a crappy God to praise, to be honest.

@MadaraUchiha-.._

Ай бұрын

No matter how much theists would like to say, “They deserve it so they could go to heaven quicker!” it’s weird in the first place a god would give that child a life in the first place, if he was going to make the child terminally ill. Definitely a crappy god to praise, real or not. Someone who kills babies/children: evil! God who kills babies/children: he’s so righteous

@arpitloveen6997

20 күн бұрын

So you are saying that you would not worship God even if he existed!?!!

@wingtajokes

15 күн бұрын

​@@arpitloveen6997 Would you praise someone who kills children because they "deserve it"? 🤔

@mukatte4755

12 күн бұрын

​@@arpitloveen6997 yes

@EternalShiningRadiance

11 күн бұрын

I can't believe Christians will actually say "God created us, he can kill us and torture us including babies" while also saying "well the babies will go to Heaven quicker 🥰" Huh, I guess a mother can kill her ALIVE CHILD (like God does) because she created the baby. Oh wait, Christians get sooo mad over an unconscious clump of cells being aborted but are chill with conscious and alive children dying via bears that God sent, drowning, throwing them against rocks, plagues, wars (oh except the virgin women because he said they should be spared so they can be ra*ped by his soldiers smh), etc. Christians are ridiculous.

"they dont aggre, so we can discard their oppinions" that was the best 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Isaac-hm6ih

Күн бұрын

By the same logic, he could have just said "Other religions disagree with eachother about which gods are real, so we can disregard them all. Therefore my one is true."

Let’s not ignore he said “correlation does not equal causation” and then explicitly linked correlation and causation like three times in one sentence

@koiloylo

Ай бұрын

still the most coherent argument of his

RZ forgot Divine Hiddenness and Argument From Bad Design - two of the best arguments against God

RZ saying that correlation doesn't equal causation when that is what half his arguments are built upon is crazy

@doyoufeel...thatyoulackcri6760

Ай бұрын

According to atheist religion which rejects free will and any kind of personal responsibility, Why was it not evil when lenin tortured people to extract information about where they hid their gold?

@atheistreligionandislameis4455

Ай бұрын

like... when pdf file atheists claim that men can give birth and nowhere in history has this been true?

@kylezdancewicz7346

Ай бұрын

He literally uses that to try to flip the argument against atheism. I can agree that it’s a complete non-argument, most atheists would agree with him that it’s a pretty bad argument. So then why does he include it in his list of atheists arguments, I mean I would assume if you could only argue certain arguments because your rushing through them in 10 minutes you would ensure to pick the most common and strongest arguments to get the most impact and not include non arguments that most could tell you the same

@doyoufeel...thatyoulackcri6760

Ай бұрын

@@kylezdancewicz7346 Atheists are not supposed to think for themselves. They're abdoools, like muslims who worship flaming homosexual mupedohammad and believe anything he says without questioning. Atheist abdoools are very much like muslim abdoools, both believe without understanding, both are slaves to other people who they see as gods. In islame, flaming homosecual mupedohammad is the god, in atheist religion there are several prophets who are also gods, mao, stalin, richard dorkins, pol pot

@atheistreligionandislameis4455

Ай бұрын

@@kylezdancewicz7346 I mean, pdf file atheists believe all kinds of crazy stuff, for example, they believe that men can give birth LOL

Atheist don't need arguments. We aren't the ones making the outlandish claims.

@mugsofmirth8101

2 ай бұрын

Nice argument you just made. Yet another example of secularists contradicting themselves 😅

@rfurthegamer3412

2 ай бұрын

⁠@@mugsofmirth8101I mean yeah, sure that claim does, not needing ANY arguments it outlandish, but the contradiction comes purely from wording, the real meaning is: we don’t need to prove to you that you are wrong until you prove yourself correct.

@ruzasuka

2 ай бұрын

@@mugsofmirth8101 That is not an argument tho. Literally the definiton of an argument is "a reason or set of reasons given in support of an idea, action or theory". And he didn't provide any reasons.

@davidutullakatos637

2 ай бұрын

​@@mugsofmirth8101the argument is for why atheists don't need an argument not for atheism

@jackbradbury6576

2 ай бұрын

@@mugsofmirth8101Like every book of the bible doesn’t do this a hundred times

Hey, love the structured and cool-headed responses! I'm a Christian myself, and I enjoy having discussions with many people with different people and your video let me think about these common arguments/fallacies and put my faith and knowlege to the test! Keep up the solid points and explorations!

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363

3 күн бұрын

WHAT IS HE MEANING OF LIFE? To have a relationship with God on earth so you can spend eternity together in Heaven. So, what pushes me away from God? Sin (lying, unforgiveness, sexual sins from lust, dishonouring parents, steeling, taking the Lord’s Name in vain etc) which leads to hell. But Jesus died on the Cross and rose from the dead to give you the ability to repent and Believe in Him as your Lord and Saviour to go to Heaven. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Honestly a great video, might have just caught a new sub! :D

Thank you Alex for doing this video - your discussion was fairly argued, balanced and reasonable!

It's relieving to see your calm, respectful and intellectually honest response to this confrontative argument

@doyoufeel...thatyoulackcri6760

2 ай бұрын

"The probability of finding a pink unicorn on Mars is way higher than finding an atheist anywhere who is not pdf file" So. True.

@zopzap4458

2 ай бұрын

@@doyoufeel...thatyoulackcri6760 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases

@bldymna

2 ай бұрын

​​​@@doyoufeel...thatyoulackcri6760What? I've never heard of an atheist liking kids stereotype. Actua-actually, I think I've heard more about priests diddling with kids

@Al_-cf1dj

2 ай бұрын

What? Pdf file? Tf is that supposed to mean? That we write long documents???

@rhaianna7692

2 ай бұрын

@@Al_-cf1dj it means pedo but social media apps have community guidelines

6:39 I was not expecting Alex to ACTUALLY buy the book 🤣 Alex you're amazing haha

@user-so3yw8tr1x

2 ай бұрын

He's very patient

@rsplines12

2 ай бұрын

Business expense. I expect he's purchased the new Habermas bloviation too.

@isidoreaerys8745

2 ай бұрын

@@rsplines12ahh yes. Habermas’ “Misquoting Ehrman”

@thatchapthere

2 ай бұрын

@@user-so3yw8tr1x Based on the screenshot he got it on Amazon

@MS-fg8qo

2 ай бұрын

Habermas is among the most distinguished philosophers of our times. Alex is good but hasn't produced anything original himself. Being a critic is easier than being a genuine creator of thoughts.

You know it's a strong argument when their very first point abandons their entire argument...

"Hope is not a smug optimism! Since a believer’s hope has its source in God, one can truly hope only insofar as one has ties with God and is open to his influence." -Robert Cardinal Sarah from his book, The Day Is Now Far Spent

There is also the equivocation about the word "faith" , in religion it means to , dogmatically believe, regardless of whatever proof is shown in the doctrines, while in science it just means "to trust"

@atheistreligionandislameis4455

2 ай бұрын

oh, like... when pdf file atheists claim that men can give birth and nowhere in history til now has this been true? And then they indoctrinate kids with this falsehood too?

@docterwithane8300

2 ай бұрын

as a Christian I disagree. Faith is to hold to the beliefs which your rational mind has accepted. that means that you hold onto your beliefs even while your mood might lean in a different direction. I will agree with you however that there is no proof for Christ, or the creation of the universe for that matter. There is also no proof against both of those things. The problem with desiring proof is that it is impossible for proof either for or against the creation of the universe to exist. Proof is a scientific concept that says that based on certain evidence there can be no doubt of the subject in question. Since science is merely the rules we attribute to the universe based on the evidence that lies around us, we can never PROVE the origin of the universe or the existence of a God. Inside a created universe we could never find the creator just as in a painting you could never find the painter. This is not to say that there is not evidence of a creator, there is evidence both for and against but it is my conviction that the evidence for a creator, namely Jesus Christ the three personal God is far more likely. Sorry for the essay, hope you have a great week. Feel free to respond if you would like.

@atheistreligionandislameis4455

2 ай бұрын

Like... when pdf file atheists dogmatically believe that men can give birth, and nowhere in history has this ever been the case?

@tokagesan21

2 ай бұрын

@docterwithane8300 thank you for your reply. I basically agree with you. And have to admit that all my deeper feelings tells me there is something more than what we just see. I am pretty sure there is some creator, I am also convinced my consciousness will live on. But for all purpose I live my life as if only the known material world exist, just by being the best person I can (even if I make plenty of mistakes). I can't say there is not a God or some kind of consciousness especially looking upon my life and how it looks like I am "helped" by something I can't understand, but that could just be a statistical flux and maybe I am just luckly . Anyway it would be easy to fall into superstition or even madness if we start to believe everything that seem "unusual" is coming from some higher entities. I guess we will see in the next life anyway. So for me if I say I have faith my consciousness will survive it is based on my strong feelings. Otherwise if I have faith I will remain on ground due to the force of gravity or even that I have faith that atoms exists that's more like trust in science, mathematics and whatever I can use as a proof.

@finixmoon127

2 ай бұрын

This is an oddly respectful conversation. It’s almost suspicious.

As a Christian, I found myself laughing as I began agreeing with you on almost every point of your response. Not to commit ad hominem, but RZ's skill in communication and, rather evidently, education on these matters, were severely lacking. Also gotta say it was a rather charitable and respectable response. Cheers!

@NightmareRex6

2 ай бұрын

you agree with "the root of all evil is the love of money" right? do you ALSO aggree with "the root of all evil is ignorance"?

@doyoufeel...thatyoulackcri6760

2 ай бұрын

@@NightmareRex6 ignorance... ignorance? oh, _ignorance,_ like when pdf file atheists claim that men can give birth and nowhere in history til now has this been true?

@Demiamant

2 ай бұрын

A closeted Atheist you are my friend.

@juansarmiento3857

2 ай бұрын

@@NightmareRex6 Sort of? I agree with 1 Tim 6:10 that "The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil." I don't see how a reasonable person wouldn't agree with that. It's often misquoted/translated as "Money is the root of all evil." Which I would NOT agree with. Money is neither good nor evil. Also it is not the root of EVERY evil, just a good deal of evil. In the pursuit of money, to gain fortune, fame, power, and control, people have committed terrible things. As for your last statement, I would disagree. I don't think knowledge or intelligence is any indicator of the morality of a person. Many unintelligent and intelligent people have done evil things. One could even make an argument that a more knowledgeable person is capable of greater evil.

@juansarmiento3857

2 ай бұрын

@@doyoufeel...thatyoulackcri6760 There is a difference between Ignorance and the Suppression of Truth. Keep up the passion, but work on tact.

thanx again alex! brilliant.

It kill’s me that you are so much better at this than I. LOL keep up the great work . What you do matters

The slavery exerpt at 21:11 had me gob smacked. "Could be interpreted" as condoning slavery in the old testament. Okay sure..."interpreted".

@largefam3109

2 ай бұрын

Effectively noticing a problem and choosing to ignore it. I also get the impression from this guy's points that he isn't well read in the bible in the first place, which is why Alex is able to demonstrate all these super basic issues with his arguments.

@CynHicks

2 ай бұрын

If you ignore the part where chattel slavery is punishable by death and the law required them to help, hide and house runaways it could be.

@Nevyn515

2 ай бұрын

Sure, we ignore Leviticus giving the logistics of the buying and selling of slaves, that’s obviously wrong so it should be dismissed. And stoning a girl to death on her wedding day for not being a virgin, skip that. Death for wearing clothes of two fabrics, nope not that part. Consent is given in your rape if you don’t scream loudly enough, and death if you don’t want to marry your rapist, we’ll skip that bit. The bible hating shrimp 3 times more often than hating homosexuality, no thanks we love prawn cocktail and lobster and are fine with gay marriage, so we’ll ignore it. Women as chattel and on the same level as livestock, hell no pass on that. But the nice bits are totally real… Seems legit.

@utubepunk

2 ай бұрын

​@@CynHicksBut trying to make the argument you're suggesting would be disingenuous when you factor in the context that's being omitted. Did the bible condone chattel slavery? Yes or No?

@ivartheboneless5969

2 ай бұрын

It’s like he’s lying to himself, but he’s chosen his side and won’t budge.

zoomer clearly made that video not expecting the WAVE of atheist youtubers annihilating him Edit: The coping in the comments is crazy

@arabicatheist8507

2 ай бұрын

I noticed that lol , first i saw Prophet of Zod then Matt Dillahunty(sorry if I spelt it wrong but you get it) and now it's Alex

@SentimentalApe

2 ай бұрын

@@arabicatheist8507Paulogia as well 😂

@poatoman3376

2 ай бұрын

He was expecting it. I bet he could come up with a counter to every point made in the video. Unfortunately, these KZreadrs don't have debates for some reason.

@autumn4442

2 ай бұрын

​@@arabicatheist8507I also saw Viced Rhino

@autumn4442

2 ай бұрын

​@@poatoman3376Alex O'Connor is well-known for his debates, what are you talking about.

It's funny, because when i was a teenager passioned about science and starting to identify as an atheist. My father, a religious man, tried to convince me to belive in god, by telling me how even newton was a devout christian, so i should also belive in god like him, off course he avoided telling me that newton also belived that he was the new messias and he also belived in alkemistry so.... my father told me i had to belive in god because newton did, but he wouldn't be happy if all of the sudden i started a new religion praising newton, or I started a search for the philosopher's stone.

I am a Christian and really enjoy watching Alex. I like how respectful he is while disagreeing and how he can agree with some points.

This is by far the best video responding to RZ's video. I am not saying that other response videos are not good, but you, Alex, made the best points so far. Great work!

@-gemberkoekje-5547

2 ай бұрын

I did remember some guy making good points that Alex didn't.

@alexcollins4

2 ай бұрын

I recommend Mindshift's response too, it was very good and covered some other arguments.

@imbecilicGenius-hn3jo

2 ай бұрын

​@@alexcollins4 I tried sitting through several of Mindshifts videos, he tends to spend more time antagonizing christianity rather than actually going into the arguments. For example, the demonic possesion book that O'Connor explained and read, and showed the text of, Mindshift flat out ignored the existence of the book and laughed in the comments about no source being shown.

@eramo607productions6

2 ай бұрын

@@alexcollins4Prophet of Zod and Viced Rhink also comes to mind.

@alexcollins4

Ай бұрын

​@@imbecilicGenius-hn3jo From the reactions I've seen only Alex actually read the book put on the screen (even if only partly). Like it is laughable to say that demonic possession is real but the source should be addressed nonetheless. But I get it is a time costly thing.

Your channel is a breath of fresh air in a sea of echo chambers. Keep up the good work!

@DruckerYTA

2 ай бұрын

???

@tommys234

2 ай бұрын

@@DruckerYTA what are you confused about?

@blec_blec

2 ай бұрын

who are you

@DemiCape

2 ай бұрын

@@blec_blecHe seems to be some guy that got popular from uploading shorts.

@mugsofmirth8101

2 ай бұрын

This channel is a textbook example of echo chambers.

i’m doing this as a theological exercise to see how good these arguments are. it’s really helpful to expand on your beliefs

its always funny to me how christians will use the existence of the universe as proof of god by saying "how can something come from nothing?", but when you ask them how god came from nothing, they suddenly say "god has always existed and had no creation"

@skellytheskeletos8490

Ай бұрын

IKR, LIKE PICK YOUR SIDE

@PatrickWDunne

Ай бұрын

God came from the Alpha God which came from the Sigma God which came from the Omega God which came from the Super Saiyan Ultra Instinct God

@Wavvy4real

Ай бұрын

Because there is a clear difference between god and things we can see (feel)

Too bad, Alex. He already portrayed you as a Wojak and himself as a Chad

@Muryagami

2 ай бұрын

"I'm based, see! Based!"

every single atheist youtuber i know has made a video debunking redeemed zoomer's video 🤣 (great video by the way!)

@Viktor_Git

2 ай бұрын

Same 🤣🤣🤣

@Igelme

2 ай бұрын

I feel bad for him as a Christian, he dips his feet into philosophy and is eaten by sharks. He was just replying to the very basic "no evidence xd" tier arguments, with very shallow replies as well. This is no joe schimtd and is prob not ready for most of these discussion, as I mentioned here his focus is mostly on christian theology and community discussions

@littlebitofhope1489

2 ай бұрын

@@Igelme Sharks? No, he was hoist on his own petard. No sharks needed.

@Igelme

2 ай бұрын

@@littlebitofhope1489 he's young, man. he plays minecraft with other christians on a server where you cant be blasphemous or you will get banned. he is making a video about his religion on the community which (together with reddit) was the birthplace of fedora atheism, of course you can expect some spice, i dont think he means wrong he just stepped out of his area of expertise.

@danielreed5199

2 ай бұрын

@@littlebitofhope1489 Sorry to be a pedant but... the phrase is "Hoist with his own Petard"... 'Hoist' meaning 'Blown', 'Petard' meaning 'Bomb'. Not that is really matters because your point was understood :)

Thank you for your Biblical scholarship, something I lack.

I recently came across your channel in your videos. I have to say, as a theist, and specifically a Christian, I greatly appreciate your logic and thought processes. Far too many atheists and antitheists cannot help themselves but resort to insults and ad hominem comments. But, whether or not a few or point has validity, you address the point with sound reason and and treat theistic discussion with cordiality and respect. Definitely will be subscribing and looking into more of your videos.

Behind every hardcore Atheist is a Theist who used to believe too much.

@Tomf-tz4pd

2 ай бұрын

Rather believed too little if they were Christian.

@noterrormanagement

2 ай бұрын

As an ex-Orthodox who used to have very controversial beliefs this is 100% true

@mentalwarfare2038

2 ай бұрын

Behind every hardcore Theist is an Atheist who used to lack-belief and schooled theists on who holds the burden of proof.

@Cubevision1

2 ай бұрын

@@Tomf-tz4pddisagree tbh

@austinhernandez2716

2 ай бұрын

​@@Tomf-tz4pdNope, I was very devoted

43:08 Alex saying “you gotta have faith, baby” was so weirdly hilarious 😂

@convoy4298

2 ай бұрын

shit had me blushing

@doyoufeel...thatyoulackcri6760

2 ай бұрын

*sunan abi dawud 2121* Flaming homosexual mupedohammad forced himself atop of baby aisha when she was nine and boned her. Now... can you tell me, what exactly distinguishes islame from pdf file atheist religion?

@duckalotl

2 ай бұрын

@@convoy4298real

@johnnypopstar

2 ай бұрын

Didn't know I was his wife but I guess you really do learn something new every day

@atheistreligionandislameis4455

2 ай бұрын

@@johnnypopstar Oh, but pdf file atheists believe that men can be women too. It's because atheists are verr verr int-ell-ergint

as a christian i already question lots of things about the bible and doctrine, but listening to you makes me really doubt alot of things about Christianity but at the same time cannot reject it

@isysunrise2842

2 ай бұрын

My atheism began the same way lmao. The only difference is that I was a Muslim in the past. Good luck, opening your mind, brother, I'm glad you're questioning such things

@PatrickWDunne

2 ай бұрын

Glad you're open-minded enough to question things. If God exists, he gave you a curious and skeptical mind that wants to ask questions and not just blindly accept doctrine.

@chr1srugby

Ай бұрын

Personally I don't think people should necessarily reject the idea of a god. It may bring them comfort or inspire them to do good and that's fine. However, I find the position that any organised religion based on text barely a few thousand years old to be the absolute truth is arrogant and destructive. It is clearly a vector of control of the masses and is filled with contradictions. I applaud you for questioning your belief system and think we should all do that when presented with new information. Go one step further and question whether it's the labelling attached to it and associations to certain organisations that are the real issue rather than the beliefs themselves. Can I disprove or prove the presence of an unnamed god? No. Can the presence of a christian (or other religion) god be disproven? Absolutely.

@michaelflores9220

Ай бұрын

I'm not Christian, but if you are so sure there's nothing supernatural at all, you'd better post a lengthy debunking of every detail of Michelo 2.0's ouija livestreams. Various things movie on a 720p live stream and he proves there are no strings or magnets. All streamed live for hours.

@randopedia1

Ай бұрын

Agnostic here ~ I know how you feel 😅

Intellectual Dishonesty really pisses me off.

@ekt3396

2 ай бұрын

I don't think RZ is doing this intentionally.when you're brought up to think like this you just think that way

@naughtywizard

2 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠@@ekt3396 The chad and soyjack memes are fairly intentional haha

@ekt3396

2 ай бұрын

@@naughtywizard yeah that is fair he is making a caricature of us but I think it's more for Gen Z relatability rather than to actually mock us.

Modern science didn't start in medieval Europe but ancient Athens. Archimedes, Pythagoras, Thales of Miletus, and Hipparchus all come to mind.

@TheLastProposal

2 ай бұрын

The star surrounded by the seven pillars inside is the planet we live on. The star represents unification of Humanity, The seven chains lock on the world represents the seven continents and the world in which we live together that is the world we live on. This is the symbol of Lionia.

@Kooczsi

Ай бұрын

and?@@TheLastProposal

@frombeyond4913

Ай бұрын

You just named 4 theists my friend 😭

@Kaledrone

19 күн бұрын

Theists who are not a part of the "church" nor did they ever believe in your religion. In fact you probably think they are all burning in hell for not believing the same thing as you and you also probably look at Zeus believers in the same light as Santa believers.

Wow! That was really good! Nicely done!

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363

3 күн бұрын

WHAT IS HE MEANING OF LIFE? To have a relationship with God on earth so you can spend eternity together in Heaven. So, what pushes me away from God? Sin (lying, unforgiveness, sexual sins from lust, dishonouring parents, steeling, taking the Lord’s Name in vain etc) which leads to hell. But Jesus died on the Cross and rose from the dead to give you the ability to repent and Believe in Him as your Lord and Saviour to go to Heaven. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

This is actual a rly interesting video no matter the beliefs one has

This man voice is so soothing, the tone of voice, the clarity of his thoughts and his exemplary way of articulation. I am flabbergasted.

@marishasveganworld2240

2 ай бұрын

100% agree! He is wonderful!

@jasonleslie4349

2 ай бұрын

If u are going to invest money in getting a nice reliable car 1 of the 1st things you do is to make sure it has no defects .This is why Alex is so effective because he wants to see those defects 1st before investing 'his life ' in it. He also goes 1 step further ,if those defects can be fixed he'd still buy it.That is why Alex is the best effective responder for me

@bengeurden1272

2 ай бұрын

It is not about his voice or manners, it is about WHAT he says.. that is the problem with todays internet.. form seems to be more important than whether it actually makes sense

@marishasveganworld2240

2 ай бұрын

@@bengeurden1272 I agree, it’s indeed about what he says, but the way he sounds is like a nice bonus.

@rimrock1000

2 ай бұрын

Soothing? He does not have an ASMR voice.

I like watching your content as a Christian. You provide good arguments without being disrespectful and I respect that.

@chitogekirisaki5598

2 ай бұрын

Why are you christian

@austinhernandez2716

2 ай бұрын

Why are you a Christian?

@sadderwhiskeymann

2 ай бұрын

Try genetically modified sceptic for THE most respectful views presented.

@fynix.

2 ай бұрын

@@sadderwhiskeymanncan't tell if you're being sarcastic or not but Genetically Modified Skeptic is nowhere near as logical or good faith as Alex O'Connor

@sadderwhiskeymann

2 ай бұрын

@@fynix. i was serious. Although I am atheist, I find him the most humble (true he's not Alex's level of philosophical analysis). 2nd comes Paulogia (the earlier the better) And there's a reason for this.

Proud to be a subscriber since u had 20k subs

This was very interesting to watch as a theist, Alex is clearly a smart and well read guy and I did agree with him quite a few times! My main critique here is that I feel as though RZ was making general quick points on many atheist/theist disputes and Alex over-analyzed many individual point to levels they weren't intended. There is a difference between a genuine serious argument and a quick general point not presented to be thought *too much* about. Still what do I know, video was fun to watch, thanks!

@xXEGPXx

14 күн бұрын

So you think that RZ having terrible underbaked arguments is actually a good thing?

His video was so bad I thought it was an atheist making fun of Christians.

@User-ec8sg

2 ай бұрын

Sort of like the Trump problem where you can’t do parody because it’s already as absurd as parody.

@dusanprimal3344

2 ай бұрын

I don't agree

@juanausensi499

2 ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure somebody, somewhere, did a parody of theism, but he received so many positive feedback from theists that he made a profitable apologetics channel.

@HTGY6YTH67Y

2 ай бұрын

If Redeemed Zoomer actually is a satire channel then bravo. His video was so bad that I can't tell if it's a parody.

@ThespianGamr

2 ай бұрын

​@@HTGY6YTH67Y Unfortunately it is all unironic and the best argument after being converted to Christianity at 16-17ish is the argument from math, and that because math has infinites and the real world can't have infinites there must be an infinite god.

Ok, for the record, I am neither fundamentally evil, nor am I fundamentally a "broken and corrupted sinner" and I don't just fundamentally deserve horrible things happening to be. Same is true for everybody else. Anybody who says otherwise has fallen for some incredibly evil ideologies.

@sir_dragonfly7287

Ай бұрын

Seriously, I always hear the "god brings purpose and meaning to life" argument where people claim that they feel better about life and themselves because of god, but then this is what that sane religion says.

@doyoufeel...thatyoulackcri6760

Ай бұрын

@@sir_dragonfly7287 Pdf file atheist prophet richard dorkins said: I really do believe it is a good thing to experiment with drugs. I find it interesting what effect it has on my brain. This is why, pdf file atheists use drugs, no purpose in life. And it is why they love suffering too. They want their own suffering on each and everyone else too. Basically, atheist religion is communism. Also why atheists hold first place in genocide.

@sababugs1125

Ай бұрын

Well, not everybody else . Like the H man or Stalin or someone like that

@atheistreligionandislameis4455

Ай бұрын

@@sir_dragonfly7287 Atheist religion has many problems and inconsistencies in its flawed logic, but one of the biggest problem is, that until now there has been 0 atheists able to explain how atheist mao could go from rejecting the christian god to become the biggest mass murderer in history. It does seem to be so, that when someone rejects free will, as atheist religion does, he also rejects any accountability and responsibility, in other words, anything becomes permissable. And that would actually also explain why lenin was so fond of torture and yelled for more blood and slaughter. This is backed by the fact that islame also rejects free will and the christian god and has same tendencies for mass murder as atheist religion.

@regenen

Ай бұрын

How can you speak of things as evil as an Atheist? There should be no objective morality as an atheist. So what are you basing it on?

Thank you for talking about Nietzsche. You are great youtuber. Please make video on him and read him MORE.

The point about remembering the quote: I think that it is easier to remember the most spectacular events rather than mundane ones. Like I can't remember what I ate five years ago but I sure well remember important events like my birthday or something viral that changed my life. I do agree that, nevertheless, remembering everything with accuracy isnt possible no matter what

@chr1srugby

Ай бұрын

Sure, but you won't remember what was said and happened word for word of action for action. That is the point he is making.

As far as triumph over evil I like the analogy "If you throw a baby in the pool and then it out again aren't you a hero for saving it?" Not the best analogy but it does usually get the idea across.

@imstewiesrevenge

2 ай бұрын

Exactly, thank you for mentioning this because this is what really bugs me. So many people ignore the fact that the god of the Bible tries so hard to be some superhero, I’ll never forget the story of Job where God killed his entire family and then said “oh sorry I’ll help you” last second

@filipedias7284

2 ай бұрын

"I should just rescue you a few times before we get all romantic" - Tighten

@TitenSxull

2 ай бұрын

I've always thought of it as imagine if Superman was intentionally hiring or convincing criminals to commit crimes just so he can save the day and get adulation. Imagine Superman hires someone to become a serial killer and lets the man commit 20 murders before he steps in to 'OVERCOME' evil. If God's in charge of the whole scenario of reality itself it makes no sense.

@owl8185

2 ай бұрын

@@filipedias7284Love the reference

@cadenorris4009

2 ай бұрын

@@imstewiesrevenge Except that's not at all how the story went or the purpose behind the story. But congratulations, you with your clearly superior knowledge of bible stories REALLY showed those Christians! Obviously, God is a moral monster because WHY would God ever allow something like that to happen?! You are completely missing the forest for the trees, and it could not be more apparent.

Every Religious apologist= "Trust me....bro." PS= "Or else....hellfire and neverending pain and misery." PSPS= "Isnt my preferred version of invisible supernatural super being bEnEvOlEnT?"

@jacksonelmore6227

2 ай бұрын

My brother in Christ, you posted cringe

@Raydensheraj

2 ай бұрын

@@jacksonelmore6227 Jesus is being cringe right now in heaven un-intelligently designing the female birth canal way too narrowly causing millions of spontaneous natural abortions and miscarriages. The unintelligent designer is cringe with his love for Crohn's disease or Proteus syndrome.

@Tomf-tz4pd

2 ай бұрын

Proof that the Bible teaches he’ll fire with it’s never ending pain and misery

@e33d90

2 ай бұрын

No this is just you hallucinating words into other people’s mouths, and you seemed to be in an excited state while doing this, I am marking your post as low IQ cringe

@TheEsutan

2 ай бұрын

​@@jacksonelmore6227 new 11th commandment: Do Not Post Cringe

The amount of "well actually" used shows who the real wojack or soyjack is

I have faith, and i found your video amazing!

30:00 “The Church invented modern science” Didn’t Galileo literally get banned by the church for saying the Earth revolves around the sun?

@amalronaldo

2 ай бұрын

Lol

@Gesu_Re_dei_re

2 ай бұрын

No his work got banned and he was "suspected of heresy" and nothing more, but his works continued to be published in other Christian denominations, because it was the Catholics that did this due to politics and later apologized of course and btw the church is all the believers

@rumpelstilzz

Ай бұрын

The Church built the pyramids. The Church invented the mayan calendar. The church constructed Maccu Piccu and the 7 world wonders of antiquity. The church invented Daoism and Confuzianism. None of these work without science, I'm glad the church was there right in time and spread the knowledge how to do all those things.

@akaka6377

Ай бұрын

@@rumpelstilzzwhat church are you talking about that did all of these things, it was different cultures of different religions doing that 😭

@rumpelstilzz

Ай бұрын

@@akaka6377The International Congregation of Sarcasm

I did play along when you asked us to try and remember and quote your previous sentence at around 16:54. I came up with this. "You really think the issue with the quotes is with the scholars and not with the quotes themselves?" Point proven lol Edit: Just finished the video. I really enjoy the response videos like this one!

@distantmirrors8261

2 ай бұрын

Cool to see you here on theology topics.

@yosunii

2 ай бұрын

woah scaretheater

@jelly.212

2 ай бұрын

Yo!!! he's on the flipside.

@ScareTheater

2 ай бұрын

@@distantmirrors8261 I love Alex's videos! Been here since he started

@distantmirrors8261

2 ай бұрын

@@ScareTheater That's awesome to hear bro! You're probably the last person I expected to see her. Cheers.

I’m a Zoomer skeptic (me also being a Christian) and I personally think that sometimes he is genuinely the most prideful dude for “the name of Christianity.” He thinks he knows everything while being such a young dude

@COLTTHEBOLT

Ай бұрын

He’s also quite ignorant towards many things including science. I’m skeptical towards some scientific research but most science itself is good and helps understand God’s creation and how God does things (from a Christian worldview of course, feel free to flame me but I’m just saying zoomer doesn’t represent all Christians especially his ignorance)

Bro what are half of those arguments? 💀 As an atheist i have never heard of "why dont i have a girlfriend yet?" This shit is so funny

It's good to see this channel is gaining subscribers, people like Alex need more recognition.

@maicholor2849

2 ай бұрын

More recognition means more criticism, I’m all for that!

@ZeYoX-mw7sh

2 ай бұрын

@@maicholor2849 Im pretty sure he is open to criticism, so thats good.

Curious how a child with an imaginary friend is treated with suspicion of mental illness while it’s perfectly acceptable for most adults on this planet to have one.

@deathdragoncat

2 ай бұрын

It's actually insane 😭 hearing people say they talked to "god" it's like do you hear yourself right now??? If anyone else said they were talking to a mythical being they would be in a mental institution...

@jonovens7974

2 ай бұрын

When one person has a delusion, it's a mental illness. When a small group have a delusion, it's a cult. When 1000's + have a delusion, it's a religion. The first 2 are harmful, the last one is genocidal when given half a chance.

@jacobstall1588

2 ай бұрын

​@@deathdragoncatwhen I was young I asked my grandma if talking in my head was god, she said yes 😂😂

@atheistreligionandislameis4455

2 ай бұрын

@@deathdragoncat Like... when pdf file atheists claim that men can give birth, and then, nowhere in history til now has this been true and it still is not true today?

@HaIIyTaII

2 ай бұрын

@@atheistreligionandislameis4455 Why mention pedophiles when they have nothing to do with atheism? Also, men born with male genitalia are unable to produce eggs and are therefore not able to give birth. But transgender men, despite it being contradictory to their own preferred identity, have female reproductive organs. They have the capability to give birth. They are still men even if they weren't born as one. Identifying as a gender and being that gender physically are not the same. Therefore, yes. Men can in fact give birth.

“You gotta have faith baby” 😂😂😂 I’m using that one

I really needed to see this. I found the video by redeemed zoomer just unwatchable, I had watched The Paint Explainer's video on logical phallacies and it took less than 3 minutes for every one of the explained to be on the Redeemed zoomer video

Redeemed Zoomer is a textbook example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

@mrkiky

2 ай бұрын

The Dunning-Kruger effect is being thrown around so much lately since everyone found out about it, but I think in his case it's legit. His arguments are so poorly constructed and he makes them with such confidence that it almost sounds like he's trolling. Watching one of his videos gives me flat earth vibes.

@mugsofmirth8101

2 ай бұрын

Ah yes the obligatory "Dunning-Kruger" comment so ubiquitously and predictably common in the comments of an atheist video. The irony of course being that the use of such phrase by secularists is in fact a demonstration of the Dunning-Kruger Effect in the real world.

@mugsofmirth8101

2 ай бұрын

@@mrkiky"Lately" ? LOL you must be new to these discussion because this has been going on for literally YEARS. Secularists thinking they're smart just because they can regurgitate the phrase "Dunning-Kruger" is probably more common than fantastical tales of "muh Spaghetti Monster" at this point.

@Spookatz.

2 ай бұрын

​@@mugsofmirth8101 You're arguing in bad faith; you should rethink these comments.

@mrkiky

2 ай бұрын

@@mugsofmirth8101 No, I think in this case it was used correctly. Redeemed Zoomer is very far from the intellectual he thinks he is, and one of the last people to be debunking things. If you read his comment sections, there are many people who share his faith and still recognize that his arguments are poorly constructed.

I am a Christian, and I was annoyed by the strawman tactics and oversimplifications that redeemed zoomer used. Many arguements for atheism come from legitimate criticisms of the church and should be taken seriously by Christians.

@DUDEBroHey

Ай бұрын

Legitimate criticisms from who? Don't you find it odd that so many atheists focus on religion? Their obsession doesn't improve the world. If a person is to tear something down they should replace it with something better but we don't see. We see the harm in the atheist worldview all around us.

@rnindless

Ай бұрын

@@DUDEBroHeyLegitimate criticisms like sexism and racism? That doesn't improve the world? Are we hearing ourselves? Not sure what harm your experiencing, but from what I've seen, many groups of usually marginalized people felt safer in secular communities than heavily religious ones.

@DUDEBroHey

Ай бұрын

@@rnindless you need marginalized groups for them to go to you. Waste time convincing others they're diseased then offer up a cure. I can't speak for you directly but atheists which are by far leftists have destroyed the currency forcing mothers to have to enter the workforce for families to pay their bills. How does that help? The USA literally destroys countries then tries to get citizens of said countries to migrate to the USA. Ever been a migrant? It's pretty damn marginalizing. Encourage people to stop destroying the dollar so I can move back home. "Atheism isn't a religion. It's a lack of belief" then why is it so easy to predict your guys' politics? Also, why even have political preferences if you're atheists? Ernest Becker truly was right in the "denial of God." If you don't believe in a god you'll either try to be god to live past death you'll find to follow - worship and that's essentially the god in your life.

@MLink723

Ай бұрын

@@DUDEBroHey The world hasn't improved? What world do you live in dude? Just look at statistics and compare the present with the past. What has religion done to improve the world?

@DUDEBroHey

Ай бұрын

@@MLink723 religion creates sustainable birthrates to pay for the government programs leftist atheists vote for but then are anti natalist so atheists rely on theists to have kids at replacement levels. You may think there are too many people on earth but the national debts of the world need new workers to pay taxes. Also we need new tax payers to fund unfunded liabilities. Migration alone won't solve the issue because migrants aren't breeding at high enough levels either. Do you have any idea how many kids Mennonites have? You need them to continue breeding. How many of your non religious and likely atheist friends don't want to have kids? Do you believe government should fund nonsense like social security? Do you believe it's the job of migrants to uproot their lives to pay for your retirement? Also do you realize how much pagans love the environment and want technology to go in reserve so they can live environmentally friendly Luddite lifestyles?

great video

I would like to say that you are one of the best commentators on these things I have ever seen, you disprove this fundementalist without making Thiests out out to be idiots,

Your academic training shines through here, Alex. Probably the best debunking of this creator's silliness I've seen.

@mugsofmirth8101

2 ай бұрын

You misspelled academic indoctrination.

@kevinfancher3512

2 ай бұрын

Oh, what I really meant to say was 'debunking this creator's religious indoctrination'. So, thanks for prompting me to clarify. (You are familiar with Alex's educational background, yes?)@@mugsofmirth8101

@kevinfancher3512

2 ай бұрын

Good catch. What I really meant to say was "debunking of this creator's religious indoctrination", so thanks for prompting this clarification. BTW, as you identify as an ex-atheist, what changed your mind? Most of my family are still theists even though we suffered the same childhood indoctrination prior to my escape. @@mugsofmirth8101

@donmagulon

2 ай бұрын

​@@mugsofmirth8101 no free thinking in sight

@theparkouristad

2 ай бұрын

@@mugsofmirth8101 oh like those you find in religious primary schools?

You are so well spoken and cool rn

@hertzzgames

Ай бұрын

ik right???