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@valmid5069

Жыл бұрын

*You should totally invite and interview Dr Peterson in person; his interview and conversations with Richard Dawkins was intriguing*

@Bendilin

Жыл бұрын

@@valmid5069 You mean decimating.

@tonyburton419

Жыл бұрын

Simply Brilliant. So,... why does JP do this? Suggest in part - Experiential Avoidance (a major psychological process within ACT theory) in not embracing and accepting the thoughts and feelings that result from materialism & naturalism. Because he cannot emotionally cope with the internal consequences, this would emotionally mean and have to him. I seriously doubt this is intentional, but maybe, just maybe, if he ever watches Alex's cool & and skilled video, might prod him to "wake up". Too late now, though; he has now dug himself too deep into the very hole he has dug for himself.

@DanielKMihalev

Жыл бұрын

What saddens me is that he started associating with radical-right wing outlets like The Daily Wire that has close ties with Breitbart

@V57.

Жыл бұрын

What a twat you are!! He emphasised their metaphorical reality. Perception forms your reality. Peoole like you get so hung up on the superficial aspects that you end up missing the jewels.

Jordan Peterson's wife, "honey can you take out the trash?" Jordan Peterson, "first off, what do you mean exactly by..honey, and what do you mean by you, or can?"

@airplanes_aren.t_real

Жыл бұрын

Imagine if this is how humans communicated, I bet we would still be in the bronze age

@SCPInsania

Жыл бұрын

@@airplanes_aren.t_real That depends. What exactly do you mean by "we", or "be", or "bronze"?

@senkuishigami2485

Жыл бұрын

What do you mean by *what* ? What do you mean by do ? What do you mean by you? What do you mean by mean ? What do you mean by by ? What do you mean by ? ? What do you mean by wife?

@justsayin...1158

Жыл бұрын

"It already happened. It is so fundamentally true that it never stopped happening. So when you ask, can I take out the trash, it is true in a meta manner, that the trash is already taken out. What does it mean? Well, of course the trash is what we identify as the evil that we want to rid our minds of. So if you ask me:"Can I take out the trash?", in a much deeper, much more profound way, I am always, was always and will always be taking the trash out."

@firstaidsack

Жыл бұрын

@@airplanes_aren.t_real We would have gone extinct. Wife: Run! There is a saber tooth tiger behind you! Husband: First off, what do you mean exactly by "run", what do you mean by "There is", or by "saber tooth tiger" or by "behind" or by "you"?

The concept of "over complication" personified. I laughed when he said "what do you mean by 'you'..."

@Lassana_sari

2 ай бұрын

See, "what do you mean by 'you'?" is a very valid question, when digging into the wuestions of free will and existance of soul. However, Peterson here is simply trying to evade the simole question by just trying to make it complicated.

@rouke3254

2 ай бұрын

@a_sari Not even his brain over analyzes which comes out in abstract thoughts because he is someone who is obviously intelligent and well-articulated. I think he is someone who suffers from high functioning anxiety disorder and his behavior is a product of such condition. You can't expect the average person to be able to reason or identify with someone like that and that is the cost of being an intellect in society. Very few of the current age philosophers/evolutionist/psychologist are on a similiar level, Robert Sapolsky and Sam Harris are two.

@BobHowler

Ай бұрын

It’s always great when he gets into that sort of stuff. He’s almost saying “whatever term you use, we have to define that term further, then we end up in an infinite deferral into other definitions and so on”. Precisely the sort of Derridean stuff he made his name trying to overthrow.

@MrDude-tp2pm

Ай бұрын

@@BobHowler ironic isn't it?

@dman5640

Ай бұрын

Postmodernist mode activated.

I think Jordan benefits personally and professionally by maintaining himself within some religious circles, and so he usually avoids cutting those ties by never explicitly stating what he really thinks.

@JohnSmith-bs9ym

2 ай бұрын

This is the truth. He needs the support from the Right to fight the evils perpetrated by the Left...Those of us who know the truth and see what's going on in our world should all cut him some slacks.

@BruCipHiF

2 ай бұрын

This is what I think as well!

@mattm12124

2 ай бұрын

yeah he would lose all his followers immediately if he said god was fiction. they would hate him overnight

@seanstange8704

2 ай бұрын

@@JohnSmith-bs9ym Do you think being dishonest is a sign of good moral character?

@nodical802

2 ай бұрын

And what makes you the expert on what he really thinks? I’m taking his word over yours when it comes to him

This is terrific, Alex. So clear and precise: You are using the precise language that Peterson recommends but avoids. This is so helpful. Thank you. I appreciate you.

@Simon53188

2 ай бұрын

That's really well put. I've completely gone off Peterson personally. I am getting fed up with his never being able to answer a simple question. Since his benzodiazepine addiction and coma, he has deliberately gone more towards to the religious stuff and he brings it into anything and everything that he talks about.

@ArThur_hara

Ай бұрын

Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait... If Alex can explain it... Ohw nooh we are the one not smart enough to understand 🥲. Omg ☹️

@abhinav1690

Ай бұрын

@@ArThur_hara Your attemp at sarcasm is so bad I puked a few times

@me1ody69

14 күн бұрын

wtf is up with all the. spaces ?

JP's ability to beat around the bush while sounding smart is just remarkable. I know loads of people who adore him yet can't produce any substantial idea of his when asked to, because his very purpose is to dwell in 'scholarly' ambiguity

@airplanes_aren.t_real

Жыл бұрын

He almost makes it seem like an artform, to be so vague and precise at the same time

@Metso-ateco

Жыл бұрын

There is no god in the sky 👍

@asian1599

Жыл бұрын

or you just don't like him lmao

@Metso-ateco

Жыл бұрын

@@asian1599 i dont like his "waffling gibbirish" 👍

@littlebitofhope1489

Жыл бұрын

It's a rule in academia. If you can't astound them with knowledge, baffle them with BS. Of course the actual academics astound more than baffle. The opposite is true for JP.

Holy Cow Alex has done the impossible and actually made sense of what Jordan Peterson’s word salad is trying to convey. I didn’t think it were possible.

@cosmicprison9819

Жыл бұрын

So you believe in holy cows? Have you converted to Hinduism? 😊

@FakingANerve

Жыл бұрын

@@cosmicprison9819 Well, what do you mean by "holy?" Whay do you mean by "cow?" What do mean by "believe?"

@Seeker7257

Жыл бұрын

For the record, The Bible says that God will spue the lukewarm out of His mouth. This is what the Bible says about those who know not what they believe, when addressing a Church: Revelation 3:16 KJV -- So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Any individual who purports to be a born again Christian does not, and will not hesitate to profess their faith in Christ Jesus as the son of God.

@Seeker7257

Жыл бұрын

@@FakingANerve I think the relevant and most precise answer would be: _"We mean exactly what years and years of experience and human knowledge has been documented and proven to be, those words which we seem to display a usage of, have inherent meaning - I can explain further to you if you will to know."_

@trafficjon400

Жыл бұрын

@@Seeker7257 That is You? Read in context

What a wordsmith breakdown complex content with rational lazer sharp focus. This guy has leaped into my top 10 debaters. Brilliant mind.

@ANTIStraussian

Ай бұрын

I remember back when I watched a video of his he was 5 minutes into an analogy of dragons and chaos I had to rewind the video to remember what the question was originally. Analogies are great tools but you can't just keep going into a tangent about the analogy. You do have to connect it with the original thought!

Absolutely great job Alex, bringing this to the forefront. I wish and support that you do thousands of videos

@SuperLifestream

2 ай бұрын

I like JPs psychology stuff. But his religious stuff is BS. "I base my thoughts on the literature, and studies I've read and base my thoughts on that" - JP. Also JP: "God exists how ever we decide to define it"

Alex, as a scientist, I can only say that you are truly doing -God’s- the Ontological Transcendent’s work.

@nemo2327

Жыл бұрын

+1

@ciprianpopa1503

Жыл бұрын

He pulled his god from his behind as you managed to get yourself out of the swamp. The only difference he's just in deep shit.

@spawnfanboy

Жыл бұрын

Amusing.

@klburt73

Жыл бұрын

😂

@brokensilence6790

Жыл бұрын

Anyone that starts a sentence with the words: 'As a scientist', suggests that they are likely not one. Best case; they've rummaged through a few episodes of PBS Space Time.

The reason JP won't give a straight answer is because the majority of his audience are religous. Using rhetoric to obscure the truth of his beliefs is how he is able to be an athiest preaching about christianity without outright lying.

@sehr.geheim

7 ай бұрын

I wouldn't say religious, some of my friends aren't materialists like me and watch his stuff without believing in a god, but have instead some sort of esoteric vagueness philosophy, which I think JP appeals to even more than to a religious person

@Adrian_1000

7 ай бұрын

A valid assumption, but I disagree. I watched his old lectures before he got all famous and all, I think his position (or rather his description) didn’t change much. And in a Australian TV show, he was asked point blank if he is religious. His answer was “I act as if God exists”, I think that clearly means that he does not believe that God literally exists. I thinks it’s more likely that he himself couldn’t quite resolve this issue, so his language is vague and seems manipulative. Of course, that’s is just my guess, I’m not a psychologist.

@IIsackboyII

6 ай бұрын

For me it is clear that he is religious. But he cant just say he believe because he want to be this 'intellectual knows evertyhing guy'

@michaelrichardjnr9600

6 ай бұрын

For what it’s worth, I think there’s a lot of truth in this. I wonder if you think it’s malicious.

@voxploxx

6 ай бұрын

He said all this stuff before he got famous tho

Great video. I'm glad to see your commentary coming from the other side. Not that I agree with it all, but the continued dialogue is what moves us forward.

Great job Alex love your content didn't take long for me to subscribe

The ability to break down and communicate complex ideas in a way that is easy to understand, is a reliable sign of intelligence.

@highroller-jq3ix

Жыл бұрын

+M. Linoge You give Peterson way too much credit for generating complex ideas.

@jhunt5578

Жыл бұрын

What do you mean?

@LiberatedNotes

Жыл бұрын

He does the absolute opposite

@highroller-jq3ix

Жыл бұрын

@@LiberatedNotes Cosmic Skeptic, or Peterson?

@LiberatedNotes

Жыл бұрын

@@highroller-jq3ix JP

For a guy who opposes the manipulation of language, he certainly does plenty of it himself

@originalmix2546

11 ай бұрын

🎯

@beautyellacarolmkuma5533

11 ай бұрын

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👌

@oliverfrench2847

11 ай бұрын

it’s projection

@seanscozzese4282

11 ай бұрын

Which part, exactly?

@VocalBear213

11 ай бұрын

Well, it's ideology

Your vids are crazily thought provoking & interesting, shoutout my g

Very informative video. Analyzing a discourse in details. Thanks.

I watch you for the exact opposite of what JP does. You explain complicated subjects with such eloquence that it makes them easy to understand, and explain to others. You are extremely precise with your language, and a fantastic orator. Thanks for another banger.

@kris1123259

Жыл бұрын

JP does the thing that most students hate about their teachers: being incapable of trying to be concise and clear

@aice336

Жыл бұрын

@@kris1123259 i always felt like he is very concise and clear

@drvurruct2274

Жыл бұрын

@@aice336 He's really not and I can tell because I do the exact same thing. Not in any overt manner, but in the way that I want to sound and seem smart, so I add large words here and there to do so. The difference is that I actually want to be understood, most of the time, whereas Mr. Peterson seems to be very uncaring when it comes to being understood.

@aice336

Жыл бұрын

@@drvurruct2274 i dunno ... for me the things mr. cosmic skeptic explains here about petersons views .. for me that wasnt hidden at all but quite clear. he was always picking things apart from a psychological point of view. but the assumption that he thinks those things didnt really happen as an historical event is false. he stated on numerous occasions that he doesnt know that and that he only talks about the psychological side of things. tl;dr i never had problems understanding these things of peterson

@psychonautical6587

Жыл бұрын

@@aice336 he’s always concise until he talk about religion

The "complicated" part for Peterson, is that he cannot believe what he desperately wants to believe

@santiar117

5 ай бұрын

Also, most of his followers are Christian and Catolic believers, he also has an enormous influence in politics. He's walking on thin ice

@Luketc7

5 ай бұрын

Nailed it

@argfasdfgadfgasdfgsdfgsdfg6351

4 ай бұрын

Nailed it. Like Jesus.

@gauthierlagrange490

4 ай бұрын

@@brettmixer7867 1. Your previous answer was so pathetic and petty, it was shadowbanned by KZread, it does not appear in the comments. The only way I was able to see it is to check your comment history on your profile. 2. Your response had nothing in it, nothing worthy of any discussion, mixed with baseless ad hominem about his brain and his sexuality. Give an actual argument, and you’ll get an answer. Calling someone stupid and gay to pat yourself on the back thinking you did something and proved your intellectual superiority is laughable. 3. After all that, coming back to the comment to demand a response is the cherry on the cake. You said nothing of value, thought you « owned » the original commenter, and then came back to ask for a response because you didn’t get the validation you crave. You are really reaching heights in intellectual performance here. Wow.

@feartheghus

4 ай бұрын

@@santiar117Christian’s don’t hate wise people suddenly all because those wise people don’t believe in God.

Well, you've convinced me of your position on Hitchens and now with Peterson. Jolly good, keep it up!

@meridianheights6255

2 ай бұрын

KZread served-up the same combo in the same order to me this week. Had to hit the subscribe button just now.

@charismauniversity9626

Ай бұрын

Hitchens wouldn't have spared Alex from the hitchen slap, too bad we'll never know 😅😢

@codysparks1454

21 күн бұрын

@@charismauniversity9626yep. Oh if only he were still alive today. Just imagine all the new Hitch-Slaps…

Recently came across your channel. Really enjoying your content and appreciate your deconstruction videos. More of these please.

Jordan Peterson speaks the way students write when they don't know the answer but try to answer everything in the hopes that the teacher will find the answer somewhere in there.

@allovertheplace7973

5 ай бұрын

This was quite contradictory.

@chamicels

5 ай бұрын

he gives me a headache

@anaglyphx

4 ай бұрын

LOL bingo!

@kidmarine7329

4 ай бұрын

This is brilliant. You are so right.

@johnsprague4914

4 ай бұрын

With Dillahunty, he tried to gaslight and overcomplicate to avoid addressing points of conversation.

Best part of the video: Alex saying "Moses still moseying around"

@VaughanMcCue

3 ай бұрын

It has to be the etymology of the word.

@AveriesMiranda

2 ай бұрын

Right lol JP is something else

This was an amazing breakdown, thank you

Ahh, been waiting for someone to call him out like this! Thank you.

By far the most charitable and genuine criticism of Peterson I've ever seen. Thank you.

@Bunny99s

Жыл бұрын

And the only reasonable way to respond to people with extreme standpoints. It has the best chance to make followers of Peterson put more thought on what he's saying.

@LouigiVerona

Жыл бұрын

How much criticism of Peterson have you read? There are loads of charitable and genuine criticism of Peterson. Don't play into his fan boys hands, who like to claim that everyone just misunderstands what Peterson says.

@Valosken

Жыл бұрын

@@LouigiVerona Maybe there's 'loads', but it pales in comparison to the uninformed and uncharitable criticism, so it's not often I come across any.

@LouigiVerona

Жыл бұрын

@@Valosken You know, I am not sure I want to let this one slide just yet. Sure, you get all sort of criticism in various comments, perhaps, but everything coming out of known KZreadrs has been, again and again, very informed and very charitable. Dr Todd Grande, Hakim, Big Joel, Tom Nicholas, Matt Dillahunty, PZ Meyers, Three Arrows, CosmicSkeptic, Philosophy Tube, ContraPoints, Then and Now - and I can go on. These are all big channels that made their critique on Peterson, sometimes multiple times. So which one of them is uncharitable and uninformed exactly? The exact same points that are made in this - excellent, of course - video were made by Matt Dillahunty, for example, years ago. I am pushing back because there is a ton of valid and very informed criticism of Peterson out there. And the narrative that he is constantly being strawmanned is just that - a narrative.

@inajosmood

Жыл бұрын

​@@LouigiVerona absolutely agree with you. Ofcourse there's a few people just repeating and shouting things. And there's a few performances where Peterson 'catches' the interviewer with his extremely vague and non-commitant word salads. Like the famous channel 4 interview. But these are exceptions. And when knowing more about Peterson and the way he handles his topics, it's not per sé that the interviewer was wrong, but that the interviewer was not prepared on how he would slither around the topic and then turn around to attack the interviewer, making it look like she doesn't know what he's talking about.

I love how respectful you are. Refutals like this restore my faith in actual, useful, meaningful debate. I hate that in most realms it's just become a matter of humiliating the opposing team and having a “gotcha” moment that hopefully goes viral bc for some reason it's entertainment. It makes me both sad and nervous, so thank you for this

@hitnapomoczanemirne7345

Жыл бұрын

when Peterson says that God is fictional, it means that our representation of God is a fictional symbolic representation of God, which we cannot represent in any other way than fictionally. it does not mean that God is not real. we are beings of symbols, we cannot perceive reality in any other way than through symbols. these symbols represent reality. for example, how will you present the country? through symbols! if you hit a policeman you hit the state, if you set fire to the flag you set fire to the country and so on... You can say "you didn't hit the state, you can't hit the state"... hit the policeman and see what happens!? Does this mean that the State does not exist??? The state exists in reality, but you cannot be in a relationship with the state except through symbols! peterson is not an atheist, he just understands better what symbols are.

@joel-engel4021

Жыл бұрын

Same here. It's so comforting to listen to CSK after watching similar debates that take place in my Spanish speaking country. .

@scottbrewer2617

Жыл бұрын

Because when I’m not smart enough to debate someone I post stuff they said and comment when their not there to defend their views……

@Noise_floorxx

Жыл бұрын

Yessssss!

@erick_lascovik2677

Жыл бұрын

Well. This is sadly what the algorithm rewards... it shaped nowadays discourse

Someone finally built a Peterson interpreter 🙂 Great video, Alex, exceptionally clear and well presented.

Great video! Explained in such a clear way!🎉🎉🎉

Thank you for this. I always struggled with Peterson's word salad on religion. You explained it really well.

@beautyellacarolmkuma5533

11 ай бұрын

Word salad is exactly right. He makes Deepak Chopra look like Child’s play.

@georgekostaras

11 ай бұрын

Are you saying you don’t properly understand Kermit the fraud ?

@ak.33212

11 ай бұрын

@@georgekostarasoh god😭

@ciupenhauer

11 ай бұрын

The answer to what he thinks about religion is he doesn't know either, hence the word salad. He's just trying to point out that its possible to believe in some kind of "god" but you would need two days to even vaguely say what thay god is. He could have just kept it simple and just say he doesn't believe in the Bible god, but he just refuses to and I constantly wonder WHY??

@iruns1246

11 ай бұрын

@@ciupenhauer I thinks the answer is pretty obvious between these two options (or both): 1. He can't square that thought with his own personal beliefs and philosophy 2. He can't say that because his whole career depends on him not saying that

Alex has this uncanny ability to get right to the heart of things. He is so well spoken and articulate and thorough. You are truly an inspiration to me Alex

@krg021865

Жыл бұрын

And at the age of what…21? Very impressive.

@SheikhN-bible-syndrome

Жыл бұрын

Yes a person that has time to redo it and take after take after take until it's finally as precise and accurate as possible comes across as a deep intellectual methodical thinker to you how amazing is that, and at 21 years old it's almost a guarantee that he doesn't have any wisdom in any field the Jordan Peterson is dealing with which seems to fit most people with a voice on the internet these days (no wisdom yet has an opinion)

@knastvogel

Жыл бұрын

You mean Alex gets to the fundamental brass tacks of the ontology of things. But also, what do you mean by "Alex", "has", "this", "uncanny", "ability", "to", "get", "right" etc.

@JCW7100

Жыл бұрын

@@SheikhN-bible-syndrome I think he's quite impressive in public forums as well (no editing or redos). I also can think of people who do multiple takes and are far less impressive than Alex

@Letts_prey

Жыл бұрын

@@SheikhN-bible-syndrome Ouch. Triggered much? Personally I appreciate and favour Alex’s concise acuteness vs Peterson’s wild ambiguous verbosity that he employs when attempting to justify inanity. Regardless of age. If anything, Peterson suffers from age and fame related piety.

I am surprised you overlooked what Peterson says about Exodus at 15:53. "𝘐𝘵 𝘥𝘪𝘥𝘯'𝘵 𝘩𝘢𝘱𝘱𝘦𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘢𝘺 𝘢 𝘩𝘢𝘱𝘱𝘦𝘯𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘸𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘰𝘤𝘤𝘶𝘳 𝘪𝘧 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘥𝘦𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘦𝘥 𝘪𝘵 𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘤𝘢𝘮𝘦𝘳𝘢 𝘩𝘰𝘭𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘦𝘮𝘱𝘪𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘰𝘣𝘴𝘦𝘳𝘷𝘦𝘳" That sounds like he admits that the actual event didn't happen as described.

@bizambo100

7 күн бұрын

It didn’t happen (definition 1) but it did happen (definition 2). Always nice to have multiple definitions so you can say anything and claim that it’s true.

This is your best vid i've seen Alex. I hope it does some good out there

This was the perfect breakdown of the long-run problems I've had with Jordan. Thank you so much! Tempted to back you off of this video alone. It's about time - you're one of the best modern philosophers.

@peacefulleo9477

Жыл бұрын

well I would say he's on the right path to becoming one, but not there yet. I'm sure he will be though!

@isaac1572

Жыл бұрын

I agree, Alex humorously clarified months of my arguing at the laptop and posting inept requests for succinctness that drifted, unnoticed down the list JPs' viewers.

@macmac1022

Жыл бұрын

@@isaac1572 >>I agree, Alex humorously clarified months of my arguing at the laptop and posting inept requests for succinctness that drifted, unnoticed down the list JPs' viewers."" Having trouble getting them to answer questions?

@CP-ee9zn

Жыл бұрын

Highly recommend his videos on veganism! They made me rethink my entire world view.

@hitnapomoczanemirne7345

Жыл бұрын

when Peterson says that God is fictional, it means that our representation of God is a fictional symbolic representation of God, which we cannot represent in any other way than fictionally. it does not mean that God is not real. we are beings of symbols, we cannot perceive reality in any other way than through symbols. these symbols represent reality. for example, how will you present the country? through symbols! if you hit a policeman you hit the state, if you set fire to the flag you set fire to the country and so on... You can say "you didn't hit the state, you can't hit the state"... hit the policeman and see what happens!? Does this mean that the State does not exist??? The state exists in reality, but you cannot be in a relationship with the state except through symbols! peterson is not an atheist, he just understands better what symbols are.

I am an ex Mormon, and the way JP explains religious concepts is the identical method Mormon scholars use in their apologetics, using as many words as possible without saying much at all.

@liarspeaksthetruth

9 ай бұрын

I'm ex-Lutheran (which is striking similar to being ex-Mormon). The magic is not defining any terms...and if you're trapped...CHANGE the definition of terms.

@bgardunia

9 ай бұрын

So true. It’s like Bednar continually redefining all the words all the time.

@uschurch

9 ай бұрын

Sophistry

@a.b3203

9 ай бұрын

Reality: it went over your head.

@samojedanneuron8247

8 ай бұрын

I feel JP is a christian in the same way my parents are. The Bible isn't a historical document, but a story that sets out to send a message that they find to be good. But then why call yourself christian and not Steven-Kingian for the example. His stories are also full of good ideas

The map analogy is great. I like the bluntness, pls keep it up

12 minutes in, already subscribed. You nailed it love the content😅🔥 I got introduced to you by the interview you did with Richard Dawkins. I briefly remember you from Piers Morgan talking about the monarch.

“Moses is still moseying around?” made me laugh more than it should have

@benjaminmiller3032

5 ай бұрын

🤣 same

@DDBb993

5 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@TimoRutanen

2 ай бұрын

Does this mean we're all Moses ? But who are the rest of the characters in the story then, if everyone's Moses?

@sannmayy

Ай бұрын

You don't leave your bedroom much do you?

Waiter: "Are you ready to order?" Jordan Peterson: "Well it depends on what you mean by order. I mean what is order? That's a easy question, although very tricky to answer, and often times order goes hand in hand with chaos. It reminds me of a story.. there's this guy named Peter Parker, he's pretty similar to your average person comparatively speaking let's say, and man!, he loves adopting responsibility, although he has to be careful because he also has a habit of pushing people away… and in Spider-Man (2002), a very classic story, Peter goes to meet his best friends father for the first time, and you may think meeting your best friends father is a walk in the park, but it's not man... especially if you're a human spider. There's even a scene where his friends father goes into Peters dirty room calls him a slob, and it's like... well yeah sometimes you need to clean your room, and before you try to save the world you have to have your house in order bucko. Then Peter finds out his best friends father is a Green Ogre... no actually he's more of a Green Goblin let's say, and this Green Goblin specifically wants to make Peters life miserable. And why is that?.. Because when you're a human spider who spends all his life pushing people away your only friend is going to be a Goblin to say the least. So eventually he learns that if you allow positive social bonds into your life, even if just for a moment, you can go from a human spider to a Spider-Man.” Waiter: 👁👄👁

@exesemas

Жыл бұрын

Hahahahaha well written !

@faisalwho

Жыл бұрын

I liked this response so much, I upvoted, unupvoted amdcupvoted again so I could upvote it twice

@danielhoppe8984

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha this is perfect man. Great job

@marcdaniels9079

Жыл бұрын

PURE GENIUS 👍

@TimoRutanen

2 ай бұрын

I believe this is where you're supposed to say 'Sir, this is a Wendy's'

I just put this video on in the backround while working... but now i really whatch it because it's really good content

I understand both Alex and Jordan and its great to have both these people on a platform like this educating us all

I think clearly what he meant by 'use precise language' is that you should choose language carefully to make sure you don't expose the weakness of your underlying argument. Thanks for a great entertaining video!

@LITRLG0D

6 ай бұрын

Yeah and that’s the irony. Jordan Peterson is an equivocating mess that is so ambiguous in how he says things that it tricks smooth brains into thinking that he is saying anything of substance.

@EbonyPope

6 ай бұрын

His religious stuff just bores me. As well as videos like this dissecting it. I'm an agnostic and religious people and atheists talk too much about God for my taste. JPs lectures on psychology are really interesting though.

He doesnt want to loose his religious audience, he found a way to have both atheist and religios people following him

@natanielb1445

Жыл бұрын

jordan is closet Christian but he also knows he cant defend faith in this secular world so he plays both part from a safe distance and as you can see he got massive audience because of his trick.

@Checkmate777

Жыл бұрын

I think he’s Christian but he’s very careful what way he steps in his ideas because he isn’t knowledgeable enough to argue everything. He holds back so that way he doesn’t get trapped and look bad. He’s know for being intelligent so the worst thing for his career would to have someone ask him a question he can’t answer. If he doesn’t step forward then he can never be pushed back. If he were to say “I believe in God” he would have so many questions flying at him he would be overwhelmed. He’s interested in the fantasy of theology and the allegories. He doesn’t want to have to defend scientific physical based questions.

@bike4aday

Жыл бұрын

He is trying to bring them together because there is something fundamentally important that both atheists and theists don't yet see (generally speaking across large populations). He's saying something more like "you're both right and wrong".

@clouds-rb9xt

Жыл бұрын

@@natanielb1445 Christians are told to spread the faith, though

@justachilldude8426

Жыл бұрын

@@Checkmate777 if you were asked if you believe in God, would you refuse to answer? You are prescribing preposterous standards if JP cannot even claim to be Christian, something they are meant to be open about. And he clearly calls God a fictional character multiple times in this video. This seems more about preserving your preconceived notions about JP more than anything.

Great watch! Also, I know how the definition of God for Peterson was derived in the video but I am pretty sure he has clearly stated somewhere that God is whatever is at the top of your hierarchy when talking about the existence of God or atheism or something along those lines.

I have always wondered what Jordan Peterson was on about! Thanks.

This might be one of your most ambitious videos yet. The way you deconstructed his rhetoric and word salad was quite precise. Oh and also you looked quite good with peterson in that picture

@nemo2327

Жыл бұрын

Would you like croutons with that salad?😅

@budrome4247

Жыл бұрын

Yes, the word salad IS strong in this one (JP)

Dude, Alex, this video is just on a whole different level. I completely wrote off Peterson in my recreational media consumption because of this exact issue. I remember a debate between him and Sam Harris brought it to light and it turned me off to a lot of his stuff. So for you to be able to pinpoint the exact issue with such grace is truly impressive. Thank you for such a phenomenal video I’m sure it took a ton of effort, time and energy.

@TheReddaredevil223

Жыл бұрын

You should still write him off lol. He is still a total charlatan. Alex probably has more clarity about what Jordan is saying than Jordan himself

@johnno6183

Жыл бұрын

Sam:" Why are you doing this and why does it have to be so hard?"

@Schrodinger_

Жыл бұрын

I remember that debate. Jordan Peterson described himself as a "philosophical pragmatist", and then proceeded to describe something that is not even close to actual pragmatism, but rather, what realists make fun of pragmatism for what they think it means.

Wonderful work - thank you! Truly! I also could feel that something was off with Jordan Petersons arguments about these topics, but it is hard to put a finger on - especially when ons has to listen in full speed without time to pause!

Thank you for this video

Absolutely great job. Every Peterson fan should watch this video, because it's the best deconstruction of his beliefs and rhetorical techniques I've seen without also taking shots at his politics (and this is coming from someone who strongly disagrees with his politics and thinks they deserve plenty of criticism too).

@sinxsideways5900

Жыл бұрын

It is not a deconstruction of his beliefs. This is quite literally about religion. His arguments and logic in many other areas is rock solid and based on factual information or unquestionable morality.

@elliotts5574

Жыл бұрын

@@sinxsideways5900 lol no it isn’t. everytime he talks about philosophy it’s incredibly obvious he’s never had to pass a class in it- he knows nothing. he’s an idiot, honestly. I mean if you’re stupider than him maybe he’ll seem smart.

@sinxsideways5900

Жыл бұрын

@@elliotts5574 maybe if you read the title of the video u would realize its only about religion. Great way to try and insult me just bc you disagree with me. Like fucking hell people like you are what's wrong with the world. Learn how to have a civil conversation or debate without insulting people you incel. If im dumb then may God help you. His philosophy is also obviously gonna be based in his religious belief just like every other fucking person's so try and find a different angle to attack from.

@sinxsideways5900

Жыл бұрын

@@elliotts5574 he is far from an idiot you just may be too stupid to understand that

@GalacticNovaOverlord

Жыл бұрын

@@sinxsideways5900 His arguments in other areas are worse than here.

I saw a lot of these issues with JP's beliefs about religion shortly after starting to watch some of his content. I am fairly certain the only reason he doesn't come out as an atheist is because he cannot afford to lose his base. And a lot of his base would not follow an atheist. The sad part is that the vast majority of those folks don't see through it.

@ecyranot

11 ай бұрын

I'm not a JP fan, but I don't think he bases his opinions on his base. He has pretty esoteric explanations for his views and I think he's sincere. I just think he's too definitive in his statements. I always feel I want to stop the tape and challenge several details in his argument.

@jackarmstrong8991

11 ай бұрын

Exactly

@michael1345

11 ай бұрын

@@ecyranot I disagree. His base is conservative and I agree with the presenter that he himself does not believe in ANY deity but his followers mostly do. So he is left with the problem, "I don't believe in an actual God however, I can't say that directly'. Instead he gets around the problem by "peppering' his presentation with enough religiously flavoured words for the audience and then seems authoritative by the pretence of artificially deconstructing the language to NO CONSTRUCTIVE PURPOSE. Trump does exactly the same tactic but in a far more crude sense. He is not racist but he "dog whistles" his base with neutral comments concerning fascist activities "there are good people on both sides" Charlottesville riots. or blaming mexicans for America's economic woe and Andrew Tate does EXACTLY the same twisting of concepts, the good with the decidedly awful. If all three came and said "I don't believe in God" "Racists are good people" and "bashing women is your right and duty" The three would have ended on the rubbish pile of history.

@Dubbadizzo86

11 ай бұрын

"I am fairly certain the only reason he doesn't come out as an atheist is because he cannot afford to lose his base. And a lot of his base would not follow an atheist. The sad part is that the vast majority of those folks don't see through it." I wouldn't say it's a matter of "can't afford" to lose is base, as that implies he's in it for the money, which I don't think he is. Granted, if he lost his base, he would definitely lose his income, so maybe he is motivated to some degree to pander, but I don't think that's where his heart is. I think he genuinely wants to help people, as both a psychologist and an educator, and so he probably chooses not to come out as an atheist for fear of alienating folks who could otherwise benefit from his message, albeit for the reason you mentioned which is because they would likely not follow an atheist. I think to Peterson, the question of whether or not he's an atheist is irrelevant to the messages he's trying to get across. Neil Degrasse Tyson is similar when it comes to science promotion, which is why he calls himself an agnostic rather than an atheist, which he clearly is.

@thesprawl2361

11 ай бұрын

I think he's sincere actually - I think he's sincere in his belief that left-wing secularism(and I think he considers the two things synonymous) is so terrifyingly pernicious that religion needs to exist as a bulwark against it. I think that is how he characterises his 'religious' belief - as a bulwark against godless commies(I also think he just likes the fact that religion tends to support social conservatism, and since he's a social conservative religion makes for a nice, warm, reassuring backdrop when he's railing against some progressive cause. I don't think _he's_ aware that this is one of the reasons why he likes religion though.). So I think he's sincere. I just think he tangles himself up in knots because, well...he's not that bright. Also, he's a wanker.

brilliant! thank you !

Props Alex brilliant parsing

"Peterson tends to needlessly overcomplicate any question he is ever asked about God or religion to an extent that borders on the comic" No need for qualifiers Alex: Peterson does this with EVERY topic he addresses.

@fabriziocamisani5477

Жыл бұрын

Not true, much as I dislike him, he is generally speaking razor-shatrp. laser-focused and verbally precise on almost any given topic, except religion. Ask him to deny Patriarchal society and you, agree or less, will get a very precise answer. You ask him to talk about god and religion and he starts wiggling and rambling. His debate with Sam Harris was quite telling, he had to read from his notes which remained vapid and obscure, to give his definition of god. At least, Deepak can pull stuff out of ass without even blinking.

@Philiqification

Жыл бұрын

Yup he is the human manifestation of the fallacy of equivocation 🙄

@thoughtfulbeetle3479

Жыл бұрын

@@fabriziocamisani5477 Hmmm, I'd still have to disagree, although I see what you mean. From the unfortunately large amount of Peterson I have read or watched, I think he is very good at giving a precise answer about whether something is good or bad, true or untrue (usually). He will quickly and in no uncertain terms condemn or condone things. But if you ask him the "Why?" or to explain his reasoning, that is when he basically always goes into word salad-mode. That may be because to Peterson, almost everything goes back to a semi or wholly religious view of the world. Of archetypes and truer than true ways that we conceptualize things. His basis is very complicated and confusing, so his explanations almost always become so. A great example of this is "12 Rules for Life". Read by themselves, the rules are mostly unobjectionable and seem to be good ideas. But when Peterson gets into the why behind the rules, it's all highly confusing and very complicated. Again, probably because he refers back to his very religious worldview to explain it. So while Peterson can be cogent about a surface level of his views, he is pretty much always very convoluted when he has to explain why he holds them.

@Google_Censored_Commenter

Жыл бұрын

To be fair to the man. He only seems to do this about topics where he has dogmatic, strongly held beliefs. Like Jung, or religion, or the Ukraine situation.

@eomoran

Жыл бұрын

He doesn’t though. There is literally a clip in this (around the forty-two minute mark) where the interviewer compares the difference between petersons current obfuscations and some other quote where he say’s explicitly “there is no evidence for that”. He might do it with many topics, but to say all is just inaccurate.

He needs someone to explain the meaning of the words "you" and "do" and "believe", but has no problem using "ontological transcendence" without the need to define the terms more clearly? 😂

@squeegybeckenheim2489

Жыл бұрын

He's only good with the big words. The little ones confuse him. (Whenever it's convenient for him to be confused)

@qwertydog9795

Жыл бұрын

one of the first things I learned at my classical Christian school of logic and rhetoric is "define your terms", yet somehow in economics we still ended up listening to jp lectures 💀

@manulito2

Жыл бұрын

I just had a big laugh watching that moment of his. Honestly, how can some people take him serious? He is like a used car salesman but for pseudo-intellectual ideas

@bjones8470

Жыл бұрын

@@manulito2 thank you perfectly and concisely stated.

@scottcarr1534

Жыл бұрын

Oh booo hooo... LOL!!!! I love watching the "intellectuals" get their asses handed to them by a man that's WELL thought out and NOT afraid to call you on your BULLSHIT. Cry some more, you granola crunching cunts.

You just made JP make sense to me. Suscribed !

You are, sincerely, one of the best, most coherent voices on the internet. Thanks for doing what you do, and for breaking down meta-men like Jordan Peterson. Please keep doing this as long as you can.

@christiandeltoro5128

9 ай бұрын

Lmao you’re a bot

@Cyprus_Is_Greek

9 ай бұрын

Lol, peterson is right. You just dont want to believe in God

@brashybrash3892

8 ай бұрын

​@@Cyprus_Is_GreekI def do not wish to believe in the god as described in the bible for sure.

@kentstallard6512

7 ай бұрын

​@@Cyprus_Is_GreekI believed most of my life and was an ordained Christian minister and passionate apologist. Then I decided to go with reality, and not because I didn't want to believe or start "sinning." Listen to that cognitive dissonance you experience when confronted with evidence contrary to your belief system. Don't just avoid it.

@mother.95

6 ай бұрын

​@@Cyprus_Is_GreekYou are right. But I will also fight for your right to practice your faith. Just don't lump it on us?

The great thing about Jordan Peterson is that he not only tells us what we think, he also tells us what we said, saving us a great deal of effort.

@colinross3755

Жыл бұрын

Pity he couldn’t tell us what he thinks and what he says which would save a further great deal of effort…

@rodneywarren1905

Жыл бұрын

@@colinross3755 peterson would make less money that way. To their very core they have no beliefs; they are just a grifter.

@brentwalker3300

Жыл бұрын

He's the same as a Christian apologist who says that atheists really believe in God, but they are only rebelling against God. Hilarious.

@colinross3755

Жыл бұрын

@@rodneywarren1905 yeah you are bang on 👍

@colinross3755

Жыл бұрын

@@brentwalker3300 yeah like when they say atheists are angry at god - nope can’t be angry with something I don’t think exists……

As a person who enjoys listening to Jordan I have to admit that everything you brought up in this video made perfect sense to me. Thank you for changing my mind and clear my thoughts on this issue.

@42:21 I love your voice over, and I love you!

Please never stop what you are doing! Your logic and reason is like an antidote for my tired mind

@maddyboombaddybaddy6532

Жыл бұрын

Jordan's rhetoric is super fucking exhausting to me. Idk why ppl let him use them for his attention supply.

@maddyboombaddybaddy6532

Жыл бұрын

@@harithshah45 That's his M.O., make everyone's brain misfire so we just take what he says and make it fit to what we want it to mean. He's a calculated attention whore. What I don't understand is why no one ever asks him what he meant by something he said, as if EVERY person in the audience completely grasps his gobbledygook.

Thank you for breaking in down. I’ve been trying to simplify my explanation of Jordan, that pretty much says the same thing but takes me forever… This video is very helpful on that front. Love your stuff, keep doing what you’re doing.

@patrickwoods2213

3 ай бұрын

You can describe Jordan in one word - bloviation.

@chrisbarbero2608

3 ай бұрын

So you don’t understand what Peterson is saying?

@MrakS

3 ай бұрын

​@@chrisbarbero2608what they mean is that Peterson is being dishonest, and using vague and slippery language to obscure it. From listening to this video, that view seems pretty inescapable.

@larent17

3 ай бұрын

@@MrakS as a JP listener, I did not understand anything else.

@dfr6663

3 ай бұрын

​@chrisbarbero2608 Depends what you mean by "peterson"..

Amen. Great video

First time watching, what a great video.

Brilliant. An honest and well rounded evidence driven breakdown of his language! Amazing job

@nenmaster5218

Жыл бұрын

Just type in "A Brief Look at Jordan Peterson" and be amazed. !!!

@jpg6113

Жыл бұрын

Ah yes, let's talk about deconstructing JP while our country is being invaded by foreign economic migrants with lower IQ's replacing our native population.

I've been saying this for years, that he isn't literally a theist. It's sensible to me because I grew up reformed Jewish, and this sort of way of thinking was how I grew up, and I assumed everyone felt the same more or less. It was a big shock to find out as a young adult that Christians most often believed it literally. It's so clear to me that his religious audience is hearing something very different from what he's actually thinking.

@jessereichbach588

9 ай бұрын

No he is literally a theist. He just doesn't believe in an anthropomorphic god. And theism, and thus atheism, is NOT restricted to anthropomorphic and conscious entity. People are completely misusing the terms atheism, theism and God. They are specifically talking about ONE, or one branch of understanding of the God construct, which is what God ACTUALLY is, a construct. One that we attribute to, both tangible and intangible attributes and traits. I also grew up Jewish, conservative. And it was a shock to me that Orthodox Jews and many Conservative Jews believe literally, in an anthropomorphic deity. I went to Hebrew school for however many years up to Bar Mitzvah, and by the age of 9 or 10, at least half my peers and I had already realized its all just mythology. So it was astonishing to me that ANY Jews believed that Torah was actually given to Moses at Mt Sinai and that prophecy and prophets actually speak for 'God". Which is where Christianity gets a lot of its nonsense, Rabbinic Judaism, or Pharisaic and Essene Judaism, which were both REFORM movements of the 2nd century BCE. Traditiona Judaism, as practiced by the Sadducees, the Zadokites, ONLY used Torah, did not believe in resurrection, did not believe in a conscious afterlife, did not believe in messiah, did not believe in the prophets and writings. That WAS traditional Judaism, which was Patrilineal, from around 700 BCE to around 1st century CE, when the tempe was destroyed by the Romans, the Sadducee aristocracy taken off to Rome and Egypt, leaving the superstitious and extremely hellenized in thought Pharisees and Essenes holding the bag of responsibility over the common masses of Judean diaspora community. And that's where most of these superstitious and ridiculous supernatural ideas come from, the Greeks. ALL only becoming part of "Judaism" AFTER Alexander. The idea of an afterlife from Elysian fields and Hades, the idea of a universal savior figure from all the Greco-Roman myths and the idea of resurrection, common throughout Indo-European, and especially Mediterranean lore, with many a figure taking a trip to the underworld and finding a way to return. So Judaism itself is what Jews do and the common beliefs of Jews. Rabbinic Judaism is ONE branch of Judaism, today the most common, but it is only one, now formalized branch of Judaism. Judaism itself is not and can not be formalized. Foundation of Torah is part of it. Foundation OF, not necessarily belief IN the literal and supernatural, non allegorical interpretation. . But I never in my life believed in an anthropomorphic god, yet I am not an atheist. People attempt to insist I am an atheist all the time, but I am overtly not. I have absolutely ZERO faith in an anthropomorphic deity and am a theist. And my belief is quite simple, and based on deduction and not faith. The source of existence must exist for everything else to exist. And the source of existence is one of those attributes we attribute to the god construct.

29:14 and your explanation after, Alex, offer insight into how Peterson perceives *himself* as a scientist. It's his narcissism showing. His framework requires that any knowledge that could be had in his domain outside his own knowledge must be "transcendent" (i.e. divine). That's pretty grandiose.

Spot on, thank you for that!

I learn something extremely useful every. single. time. I watch your videos. This time it was your breakdown and example of the difference in ontology and epistemology. A while back it was pointing out that you CANNOT choose what to want. (which I'm still kinda rattled by lmao) Thank you so much for the time and effort you give to educate our unworthy minds. May ye reap blessings from our highest hierarchical value.

As a Christian I've always had similar reservations about how Peterson obscures his thoughts on this matter, and I've never heard it unpacked as well as you just did. Well done!

@hitnapomoczanemirne7345

Жыл бұрын

when Peterson says that God is fictional, it means that our representation of God is a fictional symbolic representation of God, which we cannot represent in any other way than fictionally. it does not mean that God is not real. we are beings of symbols, we cannot perceive reality in any other way than through symbols. these symbols represent reality. for example, how will you present the country? through symbols! if you hit a policeman you hit the state, if you set fire to the flag you set fire to the country and so on... You can say "you didn't hit the state, you can't hit the state"... hit the policeman and see what happens!? Does this mean that the State does not exist??? The state is a reality that exists in reality, but you cannot be in a relationship with the state except through symbols! peterson is not an atheist, he just understands better what symbols are. do you want to say that Jonatan is an atheist?

@matthewmorris9532

Жыл бұрын

@@hitnapomoczanemirne7345 I've never heard Peterson say that he's just speaking about language semantics like this. Jonathan talks about things in a very different way

@izzabelladogalini

Жыл бұрын

It's funny because I'm an atheist (at least I thought I was both secular and an atheist but being as I've been to a museum I clearly don't know my own mind 🤔) but was thinking exactly the same thing.... Peterson is all things to all men and that thing obscure and intentionally confusing

@aminromero8599

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. I'm an atheist for all intends and practical purposes, but I've noticed the same thing every time Peterson talks about the topic. That way, he satisfies both audiences. Believers interpret the belief in God literally (Peterson "acts as if he believes" oh, ok so he's saying he believes but also acts) and atheists interpret it metaphorically, exactly what Peterson means ("I don't believe it literally, but those teaching are useful, have been useful for thousands of years and I value the value hierarchy religion presents").

@vetiverose128

Жыл бұрын

@@aminromero8599 Nah, his talks are def geared towards appeasing his religious audience. JP is quite critical of atheists, he has said outright that they are "nihilistic" and has implied that they have no morality. He's a hypocrite.

Well, this is great I was not aware of this statment by JP, but it seems to bring everything about him together.

Alex O´Connor you are a very smart person, good for you, I will follow you to learn from you.

Alex, thank you for this. I have been arguing for years that Peterson is deliberately vague and deflective when answering questions he doesn't want to answer. The fact that he is still taken seriously by many is concerning.

@gidmanone

Жыл бұрын

He is not totally wack. He makes sense when he's talking about things he actually knows about.

@jacobl4699

Жыл бұрын

@@gidmanone sure, but he also peddles transphobic propaganda and other far-right ideas. So any sense he may make is worth essentially zero.

@elbretto6062

Жыл бұрын

He can be taken seriously in any case where he isn't being verbally manipulative

@elbretto6062

Жыл бұрын

@@jacobl4699 ad hominem

@jacobl4699

Жыл бұрын

@@elbretto6062 no lol

I’m a Christian and I think this video was incredibly accurate. Thank you Alex.

@randopedia1

Жыл бұрын

@@LazyNightCrawler what do you mean by “do?”

@Imbetterthanpaulallen

Жыл бұрын

@@randopedia1 what do you mean by “mean”?

@gamer24d

Жыл бұрын

@@Imbetterthanpaulallen why do you ask that question ?/J LoL Keep it Going

@Jonesloto

Жыл бұрын

that man jordan peterson dodging us 😂

@randopedia1

Жыл бұрын

@@Imbetterthanpaulallen when you say “what” - I assume you’re inserting the prerequisite of the highest value of divine meta-transience (or something?)

Great breakdown. One comment about the last section (Peterson misuses religious language): if you follow his line of thinking of "What is God" (your first section), his use of religious language (as you broke down in the last section) totally make sense. Definitely would love to see you and JP discusss/debate this (among other topics) Pangburn style. But Anyway, great content as always.

Great work Alex.

This is why you’re my favorite KZreadr. You explain exactly what I don’t have the words to express.

@JohnStopman

Жыл бұрын

But now you do have the words to express 'that' wich you couldn't put into words before 🤔 🙂

@Smolfloofs

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnStopman yep, because earlier he was thinking in "definition" and now he got the word for it. For ex- I don't know the word hierarchy, but I do try to explain it as something the goes up and is more than the latter one.

@jackreynolds729

Жыл бұрын

It’s like I had a gut feeling on Peterson’s style but couldn’t pinpoint what was off to me, and Alex perfectly dissects it here

My question to Dr Peterson would be: Do you think that being more explicit about your beliefs, particularly if you were to identify as an atheist, could potentially alienate a portion of your audience, affecting your subscribers, book sales, and ticket buyers? I'm genuinely curious about how this might factor into your approach.

@j.j.1064

11 ай бұрын

Exactly. The one who pays the piper calls the tune. Some people start out on KZread with a "belief" that gets modified to chime with the likes of the greater number of subscribers. They 'fence sit' to test which way the wind is blowing and then confirmation bias sets their course. Follow the money. A kind of Emperor's clothes in reverse. (He knows he's naked but who is he to argue with paying crowd. Ch-ching) It's like Boris Johnson who had two opposing speeches that he planned to use only the one which was more expedient to get him into No 10. It has nothing to do with actual belief.

@maganzo

11 ай бұрын

I doubt that you would get a straight answer. Richard Dawkins tried to have a transparent convo with Peterson on religion and it failed really bad.

@babymonalisa

11 ай бұрын

Yup! Cut the long story short...Its the grift! 👏👏👏😅👍

@briancrawford8751

10 ай бұрын

You wouldn't be allowed to ask it.

@urbangorilla33

10 ай бұрын

"Well, what do you mean by explicit, what do you mean by beliefs, what do you mean by audience...."

The map analogy was spot on!

Capo on the 2nd fret minimum is generally going to get you good results. Well done Alex.

Very good.The most informative 45 minutes I've spent listening to in quite a while.Well done.

I cannot listen to the “what do we mean by ‘do’…” piece without imagining a sitcom laughter track with it.

@gjmottet

3 ай бұрын

It is right out of the mouth of Bill Clinton...

@pinkdollangel

2 ай бұрын

Seinfeld

This video is a masterpiece. The precision, the clearity of language...

Amazing video, spotless attention to details and logic on the subject. You made my day. Thank you very much

THANK YOU!!! He's been driving me crazy with his definitional sleight of hand - and NO ONE catches him on it!!

@hyperretroactivehyperretro5992

3 ай бұрын

There is nothing to catch. You simply are not intelligent enough to understand. Had you ever read Nietzsche you would understand the implications of what Jordan says.

@dfr6663

3 ай бұрын

​@hyperretroactivehyperretro5992 Depends what you mean by "what"..

@hyperretroactivehyperretro5992

3 ай бұрын

@@dfr6663 True. And even those statements are simple. Dude is acting like he caught Jordan somehow but Jordan explained this EXACT thing in his Dillahunty debate. It’s pretty simple. He even says I feel sorry for the fundamentalist types because they know that the stories are important etc etc.

@pinkdollangel

2 ай бұрын

@@hyperretroactivehyperretro5992who cares ?

@hyperretroactivehyperretro5992

2 ай бұрын

@@pinkdollangel Apparently everyone commenting .

This was ENTHRALLING and the highest quality Peterson breakdown I've seen. I really hope you keep this level of quality up, and continue to create!! Thank you Alex, your work is absolutely next level.

Great video. Peterson is a person who says so much without actually saying anything.

Holy smoke those drawings at 14:30 of the Moses sorry were great!

Thanks for taking the time and effort to make a considered, thoughtful, examined case for what many of us have noticed for a long time about JP. Much needed.

That's hilarious, I said about this clip of Peterson a couple of days ago, we don't need to redefine basic word like "do" and "mean" in every conversation, we'd never get anywhere, but of course Peterson doesn't want to answer the question, that's why he does all the BS instead.

@airplanes_aren.t_real

Жыл бұрын

Do = do you partake on the action of belief and those that shape your worldview and subsequent actions? You = the person I'm referring to in the question Believe = does it makes sense to you God = an all powerful being that has created everything There done, if anyone wants to make it more specific then go to a philosophy class

@airplanes_aren.t_real

Жыл бұрын

It's kind of funny how he immediately tried to deconstruct the question so he wouldn't have to answer when he comes from the crowd that answers "what is a woman?" With "a woman is an adult human female"

@Nicolas-mz3cb

Жыл бұрын

@@airplanes_aren.t_real I'd say this is not enough at all if you want a serious discussion. What do you mean when you say God is a being? Is he an incarnated being? is he a force that can become flesh? is the being only inside the narrative world or also in the material world?? than what do you mean by created everything?? Do you mean he created the earth and the heavens ? Or do you mean he created the concepts of earth and heavens as descriptions of the abstracted/narrative world opposed to material world??

@anthonydude

Жыл бұрын

@@Nicolas-mz3cb sorry, but you'll have to define what "enough", "serious" and "discussion" mean before we can continue...

@airplanes_aren.t_real

Жыл бұрын

@@Nicolas-mz3cb @Nicolas ok this is probably a troll but what I mean when I say "God" in this question is not a specific version/interpretation but the collective conscious understanding of a god or god in a colloquial sense, I say being because most people see god as an existing entity (an entity that partakes on the action of existing and being), that has created everything and can do anything

JP has changed my life for the better and I never understood the critics. This video finally helped. Thanks. I’ll always be thankful to him, but did find something is going on last 5-6 years.

Ha ha.... you will welcome JP on your podcast! I'm sure you'll be at the top of his list.

Such high quality video essays for free?!!!! This is insane, you deserve more subscribers, nice to see youtube algorithm finally preferring such long format videos

@bryn3652

Жыл бұрын

He does get paid to do this.

For a long time I've said I can't listen to Jordan Peterson, I can't follow him, I don't know what he's talking about! I felt it was deliberate too. Thank you Alex!

@user-nj9ru4ef2w

2 ай бұрын

if you remove the pointless waves of pedantic jargon, you get actual pieces of gems in between.

Great job Alex. I really believe that it is only a matter of time until Mr Peterson is seen for what he is: full of hot air

This video really changed my mind on Jordan Peterson. It's up to you to figure out what I mean (subconsciously, of course) by "changed" and "my mind" and "Jordan Peterson".

Damn..... the man actually did it, he actually explain what peterson actually saying

@Ethan-ib5hk

Жыл бұрын

Actually 👍👍

@dj33036

Жыл бұрын

Peterson doesn't even know himself what he's saying, he's a grifter.

Wow... I ran into your content only a week ago... I'm blown away! Can't get enough of it. On the shoulders of giant intellectuals, you quickly became my guilty pleasure! You're on a different level my man!

@manuelignacioarturoocaranz1185

4 ай бұрын

I second this comment !

@609Yuv

4 ай бұрын

Same

@antoniacotoca

3 ай бұрын

Ditto

@C_R_O_M________

3 ай бұрын

Whose shoulders that might be?

@mr.hitchens

3 ай бұрын

​@@C_R_O_M________What do you mean by "shoulders"?

Great analysis!

Thank you for the clarity in this video. The examples are excellently sought out to describe the weirdly unjustified difference in Peterson's way of talking about the Bible vs. any other story.