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@TheGamer2kplays

3 жыл бұрын

Do Jason voorhees

@RedPepsi22

3 жыл бұрын

Do Horror history Cecil Adams

@bartendersmr4160

3 жыл бұрын

I dunno if i should do it or nottttttttt

@jeremygrahamjg

3 жыл бұрын

U are so dope for your breakdowns thank u i love thinking keep it up cant wait to see more and how u keep getting better much love from philly💯✌🏾

@billyjames8381

3 жыл бұрын

That was a fricking awesome episode thanks for all your hard work and research mate

It's all fun and games until you forget to recycle and wake up in one of his traps.

@bahahgriswold8496

3 жыл бұрын

Do u ever sleep?

@dakotajensen181

3 жыл бұрын

Whoops, didnt pay your water bill? Welcome to my new trap.

@jacobminster5793

3 жыл бұрын

Old lady tripped and you didn’t help her up? Welcome to the game.

@theidiotnamedjay5501

3 жыл бұрын

My man

@truvy_5544

3 жыл бұрын

*Forgets to cover nose while sneezing* “I wanna play a game.”

looks at clock 4am looks at the length of the video fuck here we go

@localmusiclover605

3 жыл бұрын

LESS GOOO

@mamdouhobeydat8057

3 жыл бұрын

oh thats based

@CZsWorld

3 жыл бұрын

That's the right way to live your life haha.

@alanolivar9704

3 жыл бұрын

Verified 😶

@ChrisMortJr.

3 жыл бұрын

@indeimaus you pop up on every fuckin video i'm about to watch stop following me

I think John’s entire method of healing is simply giving his victims massive PTSD in the most complicated form possible

@switters8679

Жыл бұрын

I mean, he might rationalize it a different way, but you're not wrong.

@DrRhyhm

Жыл бұрын

I kinda get his logic. By surviving the a trauma it might shed different light on your other problems, like addiction or depression(i know depression could be chemical but still a trauma might cure it cause a trauma is also a strong chemical shift in the brain)

@carolyndamish1601

Жыл бұрын

I suffer from addiction and he’s completely right. Addiction stems from trauma and if you go through almost dying it makes ur other trauma (ex abuse; rape) the trauma that makes you use drugs, you will realize you can be stronger than your trauma and live. Being chemically addicted is easy to get over, you will continue to do drugs until you heal your trauma. Hey I might just do more drugs because of all the trauma he gave me in the traps BAHAHA

@xMary96

11 ай бұрын

AND it is effective! I used to struggle with depression and not wanting to live, but then someone hurt me (will not go into details because it is graphic and personal) and I barley made it out alive. At the moment I thought I was going to die, I wanted nothing more than to live and was fighting for my life. I have PTSD now, and while it is difficult to cope with, it changed my view on life and death. I have always been a Saw fan always thought if I ended up in a trap it would change my way of thinking. I do not want to like those who said "he was brutal but his heart was in the right place" because what he and other does are messed up and cannot be excused (Even though this is just movies), BUT I will admit that I guess I had the reaction John was looking for with his victims; The will to live, and change. This is suck a freaking weird message, but I thought it could be interesting for others to see in a different perspective of someone who went through something traumatic that almost took my life, but ended up changing me, both in good and bad ways.

@Sammsy1126

10 ай бұрын

@@DrRhyhmI like this Doctors opinion

One thing that I love about the saw franchise is that despite the flaws in his logic among other things, he never really loses. He's always plans ahead even in death. Even if something does go astray, he has a backup plan for it.

@dunkangasafaraway

7 ай бұрын

this! 💯

@angeloh58d

6 ай бұрын

Yea fr because usually the killer always loses they need to make more movies where that doesn’t happen

Its funny how arbitrarily he chooses his victims, like in the first tests one of the victims is a woman who killed her own baby and blamed her husband and later he's killing people who didn't give him good enough customer service. Jigsaw is the ultimate Karen

@86Kera

3 жыл бұрын

And the woman for being depressed

@firemaker1258

3 жыл бұрын

He picked William because William refused insurance to many people, not just him.

@divaalfirman3295

3 жыл бұрын

I'm assuming you're referring to the insurance guy. Bad customer service is when a server brings you the wrong food. This guy deliberately denied Jigsaw's insurance claim for his own selfish reasons (remember: this wasn't by accident, they actually created their very own loophole.) I don't know about your moral values, but to me that's just downright evil

@synthiandrakon

3 жыл бұрын

@@divaalfirman3295 he kidnapped the doctor who was treating him, not because she did anything wrong as a doctor but because he didn't like her attitude.

@thebluemorpho2962

3 жыл бұрын

A male Karen is a Kyle you simpleton 😂

Love or hate this saga, we can all agree on one thing: Tobin Bell did an astonishing acting performance playing the Jigsaw killer. Felt like he was a real killer and they made a movie saga about him.

@mala6238

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@logandillon4095

3 жыл бұрын

bUt He'S nOt A kiLLeR

@youtube-kit9450

3 жыл бұрын

The movie series never would have been as successful without Tobin Bell as Jigsaw showing up in every installment.

@RileyWhiddenIsArguablyInsane

3 жыл бұрын

absolutely. bell's performance absolutely sells kramer as a psychologically flawed, but entirely plausible person. call me morbid, but it's the human monsters i find myself enjoying to watch the most.

@bradmerilic6848

3 жыл бұрын

Well, Tobin isn't exactly new to this whole acting gig. He started in '79, and he started getting credited rolls in '88 it looks like. Sadly he just hadn't really hit it "big" until his 60's.

I love when Saw goes back to previous movies and shows you something that was there all along like when it showed Hoffman and John kidnapping the man from the razor wire maze trap.

I feel like the "missing piece" was Gideon. His literal legacy.

@Erzan391

Жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@tomd96

9 ай бұрын

I'd argue he was missing the most important piece of all. If I were a psychopath I wouldn't put myself in a room knowing there's a possibility I could die from something out of my control. He lacked the will to live, and instead of spending his final months reflecting and handing himself in, he spent that time testing others and trying to prove his method. Just seemed like a really messy character compared to what he's portrayed as.

Its legitimately horrifying to learn that he had almost all of those victims in his plans years before. They were fucked and they didn't even know it.

@kone7549

3 жыл бұрын

@Aaron Uzcategui The *W H A T*

@norab5

3 жыл бұрын

@@kone7549 Brain eating *amoeba* . The name is _Naegleria fowleri_ . Good luck enjoying a swim after you Google it.

@t.dominey4150

3 жыл бұрын

@@kone7549 eh, they basically only exist in one pool in New Zealand with the exact right circumstances

@pedestrian_0

3 жыл бұрын

@@t.dominey4150 that's not true i saw an amoeba jaywalking the other day!

@AntdaGreat

3 жыл бұрын

@@vegeta1885 😟

"EVERYBODY DESERVES A CHANCE!" John 3 seconds later: * John Kramer has deleted this tweet *

@_x2np_

3 жыл бұрын

True xd

@vincentschor4755

3 жыл бұрын

LOL

The worst mistake they made in the saw series was: SAYING JOHN KRAMER WAS 52 AT THE TIME OF HIS DEATH. Clearly he was in his 60's when he died, which made all the subsequent flashbacks harder to believe especially after long gaps like in Jigsaw and Saw X.

@tiffa808

22 күн бұрын

Cancer ages you, too.

The guy who played jigsaw was the perfect casting choice he has a great voice for the character

The actor who played John was a PERFECT CASTING!!! He gave that creepiness that we needed from a guy that created such weird shizzeruski.

@marthastone4754

3 жыл бұрын

Tobin Bell was the best casting for Jigsaw indeed.

@totterdell

3 жыл бұрын

Tobin bell crushed it as jigsaw

@CeltycSparrow

2 жыл бұрын

He reminds me a bit of Anthony Hopkin's Hannibal Lecter. He's definitely a villain and a killer.....but there's a certain honorable quality to him. He believes in manners and rules.

@mikepastor.k6233

2 жыл бұрын

He was a real creep in the Fugitive'.

@jaydee4861

2 жыл бұрын

The one issue i had was he was too old for the character's age, if they made him in his 60's it would be better, and if Jill and him had an actual kid who was grown up and killed as an adult by Cecil, it would make more sense to me, but that''s just my thought

so glad Tobin Bell stayed through all of the saw movies, wouldn't have been the same without him

@lindseybethea6979

Жыл бұрын

Before saw, he was type cast a psycho in several movies. All small parts. It's a shame he didn't get major roles until the 2000's.

@laalaag2auntyayag776

Жыл бұрын

@@lindseybethea6979 You're right, he was a psycho in Malice- a brilliantly clever 90s movie, but it was a small part

@anam1790

Жыл бұрын

Slayed*

@stinky1426

Жыл бұрын

Read this TWICE as “Taco Bell” and was very confused 😂

@trackerjacker0013

Жыл бұрын

He is “Jigsaw”. Much like Robert Englund was for Freddy. Only Tobin bell could be John Kramer. Master thespians and horror icons.

I gotta say I’m so impressed by all the ways CZ identifies Jigsaw’s “God Complex” and shows him to be acting irrationally and selfishly (and psychotically), not actually consistent with the moral way he believes he is. Really astute

@danhagen8502

Ай бұрын

Yeah, you see where the gaps are. Like when he told Eric Matthews that he never killed anybody, they make their own choices. Eric said "If you put a gun in somebody's hand and force them to kill themselves then it's still murder." He didn't address that point and deflected the topic back to Eric.

The continuity of this franchise is amazing! Especially for a series that not only has about 100 entries, but one that most know as nothing but "torture porn". It's gotta be up there as one of the most cohesive and carefully done stories in all of cinema!

@Heliosphan15

Жыл бұрын

I love that there is real intellect and substance to these movies that dismissive critics just couldn’t give any credit to because of how distractingly gory and trashy they were. When you look past that, there is storytelling merit!

@devilsorchard1449

Жыл бұрын

@Heliosphan15 It was actually a stroke of genius on behalf of Wan & Whannell, if you think about it. Use the bloody gimmick to reel everyone in, and then the ones who weren't immediately turned off by it can stick around for the story.

@fxdedflxwers907

9 ай бұрын

I’ve never heard the term “torture porn” but now a lot more things make sense.

It’s interesting how John can’t see that Amanda is following his exact footsteps, with her believing in his philosophy in the beginning, but becoming more sadistic over time as they do more and more games.

@aaroncoats1555

2 жыл бұрын

@@Betrayed_King she was still setting up unwinnable games which even though John is fucked up he gives u a chance to survive but she didn't give u a chance to survive is y he did to her what he did which in his mind made since even though he was still killing people like she was just some survived and some didn't

@jgraninger5748

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, he ends up with like 4 or 5 other discount versions/accomplices he has to watch..

@0TheJigsawKiller0

2 жыл бұрын

@@aaroncoats1555 some of jigsaws traps were unwinnable for some. for example in the 3rd movie every single trap can only be won by jeff (the guy whose son died in the car crash) so the people in the traps didn't really have a choice whether they wanted to live or not. with the 6th movie, in every trap, someone has to die (the smoker guy in the rib crushing trap, the guy with no friends or family in the hanging trap, 4 out of the 6 people on the carousel trap). some of jigsaws trapped were rigged so the people in them had no control over whether they live or die, or someone HAD to die, which goes against everything he says he stands for

@aaroncoats1555

2 жыл бұрын

@@0TheJigsawKiller0 that wasn't john though that's why she got tested by John herself bc he always gave u a chance to live but she didn't amanda even was fuckin with the first teat we got to see but John didn't know yet then when he knew what she was doing he put her in another test

@aaroncoats1555

2 жыл бұрын

@@0TheJigsawKiller0 and in that John was judging them not that it was right but he was giving Jeff the chance to save them or take his revenge and slow ass motherfuckin jeff was just to slow to save them ps. if ur a fan of DEAD MEAT then u know y I called Jeff that

Quick side note: Seven months is considered a stillborn, not miscarriage. Stillbirth children are commonly buried.

@adman1381

3 жыл бұрын

Didn’t know that. Thanks for teaching me something new.

@CoRLex-jh5vx

3 жыл бұрын

In the United States, miscarriage is before the 20th week, stillborn is after the 20th. In the UK its the 24th week. I think Australia uses 20th week and/or weight of the child. Stillbirth is 400 grams or more. Very weird to look into, and not something you would've assumed had so much variation

@user-ld2qx5yw3h

3 жыл бұрын

@@CoRLex-jh5vx I think it goes on medical viability depending on the laws of that particular area. I'm pretty sure that if it is at a medically viable age when it dies, it is technically a stillbirth. Before that, miscarriage.

@Harloween74

3 жыл бұрын

@@CoRLex-jh5vx unrelated to the vid, but that difference is one of the reasons the US infant mortality rate is viewed as worse in the US compared to other wealthy nations.

@CoRLex-jh5vx

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-ld2qx5yw3h yea, I did guess that was where the distinction came from. It's still strange that there's a four week variation depending on the country, which is what I was commenting on. I'm guessing its just based on premature survival rates per country?

i'd always interpreted the "we've met" line to mean "since you've apparently been in one of my traps, we've already met," and in that way indirectly tells him that he's jigsaw

This is exactly what I was looking for. Some comedy mixed in with a damn good guide to understand this really all-over-the-place timeline.

No way I couldn't watch a two minute video for my geography class, but can watch an hour long DOCUMENTARY on a horror movie character 👁️👄👁️

@TheTheninjagummybear

2 жыл бұрын

One interests you and the other doesn't

@JohnJonesBilly

2 жыл бұрын

You must have lost the edge

@GenX7119

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheTheninjagummybear no he is just dumb and probably dont know where South Dakota is at let alone Europe..this generation is dumb as rocks

@GenX7119

2 жыл бұрын

@Buzz Killington wow..umm yes especially back in the day..had citizenship class also that u MUST pass to graduate this generation is just plain stupid..raise by stupid parents

@GenX7119

2 жыл бұрын

cause u are low brain tht cares more about movies than places around u...

I absolutly love John with the backwards baseball cap trying to blend in lmao

@yourimaginaryfriend8252

3 жыл бұрын

"How do you do, fellow kids?"

@ericawillis.

3 жыл бұрын

"what's up with the wack PlayStation"

@CoRLex-jh5vx

3 жыл бұрын

"Do you have a weed, my bro? I, a teen like you, love to do a weed."

@RileyWritey

3 жыл бұрын

"Sup dawg I wanna play a game. You got xbox?"

@amuroray9115

3 жыл бұрын

@@yourimaginaryfriend8252 lmfao

Jigsaw is one of the most terrifying non-superhuman villains I've seen in a franchise, his intelligence and psychopathic behavior are a deadly combination. I enjoy the writing of Jigsaw but I know it would traumatize me if I watch this movies because of the gore and flesh, blood, etc.

With that bit at the end, I think the key thing that John was missing that made him on the same level as his victims was an appreciation for his own life. He gets diagnosed with cancer and tries to kill himself, yet instead of appreciating the time he has left and perhaps spending it with his wife or maybe even trying for another kid, he doubles down on his beliefs that he can make others appreciate their lives as much as he thinks he does by putting them through the same torment he experienced. Instead of dying surrounded by friends and family he knew well, he was killed by a man who experienced the same torment as him in an abandoned and cold reminder of his past. Instead of working to create a lasting impact on society through his work and philanthropy, he died and left behind a legacy of blood and pain. John, for all his talk of others needing to appreciate their lives, didn’t have the same appreciation for his own. There’s a difference between appreciating your life and wanting to stay alive, and John couldn’t see the difference.

I am glad you talk about it how John's "reasons to rehabilitate" are not that good. When I was an edgy teen I was like "John is an antihero. Ye he kills but he helps people". Like no. That's what he keeps telling himself and others. If there's no evil people left to "help", he'd pick a guy who just littered or something. Because he likes doing what he does.

@ramen-boi

Жыл бұрын

GANE THEORY

@ramen-boi

Жыл бұрын

Gam*

@ramen-boi

Жыл бұрын

Gane*

@ramen-boi

Жыл бұрын

Game"

@ramen-boi

Жыл бұрын

**

"Everybody deserves a chance" John said calmly

@nevermoresaiththeraven1964

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

@DeathGodRiku

2 жыл бұрын

Ok Dumbledore lol

@blackpinklover5457

2 жыл бұрын

HARRYPOTTERDIDYOUPUTYOYRNAMEINTHEGOBLETOFFIRE.

@adrianawilliams4810

2 жыл бұрын

@@blackpinklover5457 “Dumbledore said calmly”

@Pintoenorme

2 жыл бұрын

The guy in the powerdrill trap: ok lol 👍

John "Never make it personal." also John "I'm going to put everyone I've ever met in a trap of some kind."

There’s a major flaw in john’s logic. John theorizes that putting people in deadly situations to force them to survive a deadly trap that, through mostly through self harm (or killing another as in the case of the dr and Amanda), will give his victims the “will to live” and rehabilitate them, therefore give them a new appreciation for life. Just as it did for him. John’s logic is flawed because his premise is wrong. John was suicidal and trying to kill himself. He survived through dumb luck, then had to REMOVE the stick before crawling to safety. Most of his victims do not survive for the mere fact that NONE of his victims were trying to kill themselves to begin with. Many of them were given only a few minutes to assess the situation while still suffering from the affects of being drugged. For someone who seemed to pride himself of his own intelligence and understanding of human behavior, he failed to account for the fact that the trauma of being abducted, drugged and placed in a deadly situation, would most certainly cause people to react poorly, thereby causing them to fail their “test”. John only had to pull a stick out of his chest after a crash HE caused trying to kill himself. He set deadly traps to kill people in the most horrific way possible if they couldn’t access the situation and mutilate either themselves or kill another to survive. Basically, he wasn’t looking to instill the will to survive. He was testing for the same sociopathy in others that he himself had. His so-called “code of honor” was the justification he needed to punish, I mean help the people who wronged him in life.

I actually feel so bad for that little girl. Even if she wasn’t kidnapped and trapped, she lost her brother, and now her mum and dad because of John. So much trauma for such a young person. Thankfully she’s a fictional character 😅 but still.

@livingcorpse5664

3 жыл бұрын

If someone else was Jigsaw, John would wake up in a trap for taking away the last of that girl's immediate family. That's how broken his mind is, he can't see that he's just as bad if not worse than some of the criminals he tests, and some of his subjects aren't even criminals, just people with personal flaws.

@DrsJacksonn

3 жыл бұрын

@@livingcorpse5664 Jigsaw's just a badly written character coming from a premise that could have been interesting and played by a very good actor.

@livingcorpse5664

3 жыл бұрын

@@DrsJacksonn Nah he's just crazy.

@reallysupercold

3 жыл бұрын

Having someone saw your damn skull open in a janky ass "operating room" wasn't convincing enough that he's definitely out of his mind? 😆

@FrostiKing

3 жыл бұрын

I dunno, the loss of her brother was sad but shattered her family and left her with no one. Her mother was out all the time to get away and cheat on her husband to not remember, and her father was locked in his room neglecting and yelling at her. While the kidnapping sucked I think she is better off, least this way she would be with a foster family or immediate family who cares about her feelings and well being.

In case anyone was wondering, the final piece Jigsaw was missing was the ability to let go of the past, in particular, his son's death. Had he let go of Gideon, he would have become a better person, but that one missing piece ironically created the other eight.

@dashigriffins5310

2 жыл бұрын

I also find it ironic that he tested Jeff to make him get over losing his son because of the drunk driver when John himself couldn't get over losing his own son and killed Cecil for it

@psychokiller5959

2 жыл бұрын

@@dashigriffins5310 in a way he's like Max Payne they both can't let go of the past

@pantheraatrox4653

2 жыл бұрын

@@dashigriffins5310 No, he didn't kill Cecil for it. He was letting him go once that chair broke free, Cecil made the stupid decision of running straight for him but ended up falling in his backup plan

@donjezza10

2 жыл бұрын

Personally, I think the final piece was Hypocrisy. Jigsaw was building this jigsaw puzzle for himself and had almost finished it, representing how he hoped his actions would amount to something. But with the puzzle almost finished, I think he realized both what the final piece was and what the final picture would be, which was him as he truly was. So he refused to put in the final piece, leaving him stranded in a game he was too cowardly to win.

@thegirlofmanyfandoms99

Жыл бұрын

Ooh shit fam that's deep

I just discovered this channel and I'm all about it. Game Theory is essentially just the act of balancing your options in an optimal way that can't be exploited by an opponent's option selection. I'd say he is more of a master of behavior analysis than he is a master of game theory

Wow, this is so well thought through. I really admire how you fit all the pieces together from the Saw franchise to come to a canonical overview. Lots of things fall in place. I'm very curious though how this will age once the next Swa movie comes out.

Over an hour long CZsWorld video? Um, yes please

@roborievolo1578

3 жыл бұрын

B i n g e W a t c h i n g T i m e

@TummaDemoni

3 жыл бұрын

You know what they say longer video equals more content.

@kristenefox7001

3 жыл бұрын

First thing I noticed. I fuckin love when he goes ham and gives a whole ass movie to us.

@anjulikamins6420

3 жыл бұрын

Right!?

@31webseries

3 жыл бұрын

And one with a Death Note reference?!!! Happiness is this!

I love how you make it clear all the way that John was a psycho that was no better than his victims. Right from the start, I started making the connections with Kira, as they both started with a self indulgent "good intention" and soon took a downward spiral into god- complex. Both started viewing their work as necessary and ended up enjoying making people fear and suffer, starting to punish petty criminals and even people who were just after them. Amazing video!

@jenniferloving9054

3 жыл бұрын

Me, too. Death Note is one of my favorite anime.

@luuhsuzuki

3 жыл бұрын

@@jenniferloving9054 Mine too!

@JH-ej2yt

3 жыл бұрын

Love death note

@edwardmcintosh7952

3 жыл бұрын

real question: do you think Jigsaw could get to Kira before Kira figures him out?

@luuhsuzuki

3 жыл бұрын

@@edwardmcintosh7952 I think Kira would get to Jigsaw first. John used to choose people too close to him for the tests, people who he felt that did him dirty, personally. I think Kira would track him down easily, not to mention Jigsaw would have to actually get to Kira physically, while Kira could get him from distance. I don't think Jigsaw would even find out who Kira is before having a sudden heart attack.

Yo this is mind blowing stuff to me cause I always viewed jigsaw as a mind fuck as a whole cause I knew most of the movies are linked but they can definitely throw you off mentally with when, where and who's timeliness they are in so I can definitely really appreciate this guy for properly explaining it all in chronological order 😊❤

Thank you for putting so much time and effort into this video, it was very insightful. The Saw franchise has fascinated me because of James Wan's (admittedly veeery twisted) creativity for one but also and mostly because of the Jigsaw character. I failed to find any other video that was so dedicated to put together all the missing puzzle pieces of his story and psychopathology with that much detail and information from different sources. It's like Dr. Gordon says: "To overcome something, you have to understand what a perfect engine it is. That's how you fight disease." (obviously perfect not actually meaning perfect but you get the gist of it).

VR Game idea: you’re a victim of Jigsaw and have a certain amount of time to free yourself from one of his traps. Think about how terrifying that would be.

@januszkurahenowski2860

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds cool but other saw games were not that great so it doesn't sound that promising.

@MetalFox619

3 жыл бұрын

@@januszkurahenowski2860 the first saw game had some potential. The second one however....

@LimusTG

3 жыл бұрын

thanks, i hate that idea

@slashfromsecondlife816

3 жыл бұрын

But you have the option to not even get one or take it off so your idea simply sucks

@flagdefender587

3 жыл бұрын

you could have 2 tries before you have to restart too because EVERYBODY DESERVES A SECOND CHANCE!

a depressive episode just began, and i see this on my timeline... you deserve the world

@stephaniehopkins5661

3 жыл бұрын

Oh my god same. I just got dumped last night and this is 100% what I needed to zone out to.

@feliscatus7057

3 жыл бұрын

saaameee dude

@Xehanort10

3 жыл бұрын

@@stephaniehopkins5661 Sorry that happened to you.

@naps2025

3 жыл бұрын

@@stephaniehopkins5661 someone shit on you???

@al-tu7sn

3 жыл бұрын

@@stephaniehopkins5661 you also deserve the world, dear

I had no idea I needed this content in my life. I haven't watched a Saw movie since saw 3, but this breakdown of the whole series is pretty entertaining

This is easily one of my favorite videos on this awesome channel.

FINALLY. He's doing John Kramer.

@CZsWorld

3 жыл бұрын

About time.

@Anna-fm1if

3 жыл бұрын

@Aaron Lovell same person lol

@lelouchlamperouge3566

3 жыл бұрын

I thought he did that already

@erika3016

3 жыл бұрын

He saved the best for last.

@lakewish

3 жыл бұрын

@@Anna-fm1if r/woosh

Originally there was going to be a scene in Saw III when Jigsaw broke down and started crying realising his tests hadn't helped anyone and that he'd be remembered as nothing but what he didn't think he was, a murderer.

@GIGEM1836

3 жыл бұрын

Wow I've never heard that where did you find that.

@surgecentral05

3 жыл бұрын

Proof?

@GIGEM1836

3 жыл бұрын

@@surgecentral05 that's what I was thinking

@surgecentral05

3 жыл бұрын

@@GIGEM1836 It might be bullshit. I tried looking stuff about it it up but I can't find anything

@GIGEM1836

3 жыл бұрын

@@surgecentral05 same I've been looking havent found anything.

John is one of my favorite characters ever. He’s such an interesting character to learn about, has an amazing voice that’s deep and asmr-esque, the incredible performances of Tobin Bell, his psychology, and his downright depressing origin

Gideon wasn't lost in a miscarriage, after 20 weeks it is called a stillbirth and it is fairly common to bury babies who are stillborn. My mother lost a baby before me, my stillborn sister was buried and had a funeral.

I think this is your best video. Great job man!

@nikolastriantafyllou6126

3 жыл бұрын

Hello movieflame

@Dama-lc7gj

3 жыл бұрын

Woah I didn’t expect to see my one of my favorite Harry Potter channels here

@ATemplarIGuess

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dama-lc7gj not just harry potter, but the mcu, and percey jackson too

@maymay5600

3 жыл бұрын

yo what up, i need to watch back some of your videos, i hadn't seen any harry potter videos from?

@Dama-lc7gj

3 жыл бұрын

@@ATemplarIGuess oh yeah I meant those to it’s just that Harry Potter comes to my mind since it’s what introduced me to him

I wonder if his brain tumor, severe edema, and intracranial pressure could have triggered his psychopathy as well as his psychological/emotional trauma. It was found very late in the game and his brain was living with prolonged oxygen deprivation which is why he needed the surgery on his skull to release the intracranial pressure. I wonder if things would have been different for him if it had been caught early on.

@filho4437

Жыл бұрын

Who says this kind of stuff... He's a movie character, he does whatever the film makers think would make a better movie.

@deadseven3474

Жыл бұрын

@@filho4437 A lot of people say this stuff, its literally an entire genre of videos on youtube that gets millions of views. Quit being a jackass.

@cindyrobertson3780

Жыл бұрын

What happened to him?

@michaelbreen7865

Жыл бұрын

@@cindyrobertson3780 Life handed him a 7-Duece off-suit and had Aces on the Flop, a King on the turn, and another King on the river.

@kelsypelsy

Жыл бұрын

you might be on to something actually.

Just discovered this channel after binge watching the saw movies for halloween month. Subbed to stay. Can’t wait to watch the other videos you’ve done! Keep it up!

I can’t explain to you how much I love your videos and appreciate your work and dedication! ❤

The Saw movies are almost unwatchable for me but I’ve always had a keen interest in Jigsaw and his backstory. Thanks dude!

@bravebeard6225

2 жыл бұрын

Cool story bro

@shookbitch123

2 жыл бұрын

What? Saw movies are so good wtf

@DivaDaveD

2 жыл бұрын

@@shookbitch123 wtf

@zalvian22

2 жыл бұрын

Same, gorey horror isnt something I enjoy, but psychological horror always fascinates me

@mrcow9012

2 жыл бұрын

@@shookbitch123 He probably means its unwatchable as its to gory for him. Not it isnt good.

Among all of John's test subjects, I always feel the most sorry for Jeff. First losing his son, then his wife in front of his eyes, and lastly knowing he's losing his daughter too :( I kinda hope he eventually escaped from that room using that secret passage hoffman went :(

@bigswaggy298

2 жыл бұрын

Hoffman rescued his daughter, and Jeff would have been able to leave whenever they got to John's body

@kipislekker5829

2 жыл бұрын

Didn’t he get shot? Idk for sure but I think it was that someone shot him because they thought slow-ass motherfucking Jeff was a jigsaw apprentice

@danielle8379

2 жыл бұрын

Jeff died. He was killed by Peter Strahm I think. It’s either saw 5 or 6 i think

@eddieolshefski6467

2 жыл бұрын

@@danielle8379 Actually, it was 4. Cause Saw 3 and 4 happened at the same time.

@eddieolshefski6467

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigswaggy298 The problem with Jeff is that he was filled with grief and vengeance. That’s what got him killed. He never learned from his experience being tested by Jigsaw. He was supposed to learn forgiveness from those involved in the loss of his son and forgive Jigsaw for putting him and his wife through the games. But he never did. Thus cost him his wife’s life, never seeing his daughter again and his own life.

I absolutely LOVE this channel! The way you get into every nook and cranny with details along with the your comedic timing is appreciated! Especially for me that loves horror films Saw being on my top 5 favorite movies

I really like this narrorator! Great host! Very entertaining and informative!

“IvE nEvEr MuRdErEd AnYoNe AnD i DeSpIsE mUrDeReRs” -John Kramer

@gamerstheater1187

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@thrifty7774

3 жыл бұрын

Hes a hypocrite

@gamerstheater1187

3 жыл бұрын

@@thrifty7774 gumball!

@thrifty7774

3 жыл бұрын

@@gamerstheater1187 whats up

@444._lovergrl

3 жыл бұрын

@@thrifty7774 Gumball- what are you doing here...

55:54 Amanda actually made unwinnable traps because she realised John's tests had made her worse rather than reforming her. The trauma caused her to self harm, her guilt for the suffering of their victims not only led her to suffocate Adam so he wouldn't die slowly in the bathroom but she saw her traps as mercy killings and that the people in them were better off dead than fucked up for life like her.

@Mrdestiny17

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't call having metal hooked into all your ribs before forcefully ripping them out after being forced to grab a key in a vat of acid in a pointless act in the hopes you might be able to free yourself a "mercy killing" I think it was because she failed to change, which is why she is tested by Jigsaw a second time, so she is taking her anger and guilt out on others because if they survive and change their ways, she wouldn't be John's perfect test subject.

@MisogynyMan

Жыл бұрын

Achually don't state your fanfiction as fact

@josepharcher9620

Жыл бұрын

I agree. There was one horrific trap where the victim only had 60 seconds. I believe it was the key in the acid trap. Not sure though but the player was female.

@josepharcher9620

Жыл бұрын

No, it was the chest ripper.

@homurakasaino29

Жыл бұрын

@@scottishsheperd *Angel Death Trap

This vas WESOME. Not only the quality but the atention to details. jokes-in, production and stuff., audio... Great job man

Something else that makes him different from other villains is that villains like chucky knows what he’s doing is wrong but doesn’t care and loves doing it but John thinks he’s helping the world when he’s not,even the people that he thinks he helped still didn’t help them cuz Amanda just wanted to torture and kill people with unescapable traps even tho the trap that John put her in for her first trap was one of the most escapable traps that he made, but Amanda didn’t give others that same kind of trap and made it riged, and even the other people who he helped became worse on the part of torturing people,some of John’s victims didn’t work with Jigsaw but just were given trauma from it instead of also working with Jigsaw

Great breakdown! Loved every minute

@CZsWorld

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Let's Read!

@yungc9050

3 жыл бұрын

Fo sho mane

@JoeMama-kj7bq

3 жыл бұрын

Well, I loved every second.

@savagething9409

3 жыл бұрын

Woah 2 of my youtubers in the same place I'm shook 🤣

@supdaley

3 жыл бұрын

Omgggg Let’s Read I’m a fan!!!

John Kramer's victims went from people who didn't appreciate their lives to just people who were complete douchebags. Unless, in Jigsaw's mind, you only appreciate life if you're a completely good, honest person.

@GendoRokabundi

3 жыл бұрын

his stated rules and his actual rules were never in sync. He mostly started with people from the clinic, because he knew them, felt wronged by them, and felt that his wife 'failed' in reforming them. As he continued on, he needed to look for more subjects, and started to include other people he encountered that irritated him. His original stated goal of reforming people that didn't seem to have the will to live quickly turned to righteous judgement of people and society. His games with multiple people definitely involved more than just "do what you can to survive" and instead was about seeing if people could work together, forgive, etc. He definitely evolved over time, both in order to escalate, and to justify the escalation to himself, as well as justifying broadening his scope to include police that were after him, etc.

@DarkDreamsAndMoonlitNights

3 жыл бұрын

You burned his grilled cheese? Welcome to a trap!

@bobbyhershey3782

3 жыл бұрын

I forget which movie but weren’t one of his victims someone who loved their job too much so I don’t think anyone is safe

@mikethehunter5212

3 жыл бұрын

Obviously I don't condone his actions, but I can't help but agree with his premise that suffering leads to enlightenment. I had a stroke at a young age which was caused by a medical mistake. I went through a period of depression and trauma but eventually came out of it and learned to appreciate life. Now I study psychology and philosophy, which I suppose in turn led me to videos like this.

@danyraya

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikethehunter5212 u honestly dope 4 that lmao

I love John Kramer. He's one of my favourite horror movie villains. And I love that you mentioned Light Yagami because I love Death Note, and I too noticed similarities between John and Light

Your game theories of the Subject of the video are amazing. Especially this one with the puzzle pieces and the finale being that John Kramer died missing something, GENIUS. Great video !!!

My headcanon on why John didn't shock Adam to check if he's dead is because he decided that Adam already failed his test by trying to fool him. That's also why he left Adam to die even if he had no chance of escaping because the key got sucked throught the drain.

@ot7biasedmashups

3 жыл бұрын

Wait that makes so much sense. Especially since he just thinks his opinion is right

@livingcorpse5664

3 жыл бұрын

If Adam had cut off his own foot John might have changed his mind. But, most people just could not do that, it's amazing Dr. Gordan did.

@KingScorpius34

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Maybe both of them tried to fool him but Gordon at least cut of his own foot while Adam did nothing. If you think about it, Adam didn't need key. John propably created this game with many ways for two of them to escape as well as many ways for them to fail. What we see in the movie is just one of the possibilities. Gordon was able to escape, Adam maybe didn't had a key but still had a chance to escape.

You should do the complete history of Charles Lee Ray and Tiffany

@thrifty7774

3 жыл бұрын

Yes that would be good

@MissHMSilk

3 жыл бұрын

... 😎 *I* 👏🏻 *LOVE* 👏🏻 *THIS* 👏🏻💥

@persephonevsbane8323

3 жыл бұрын

Yeeeeeees 🙌🏾 please

@gracehaven5459

3 жыл бұрын

I first saw those movies when I was in high school and I was scarred at the time 🤣🤣🤣 mostly by the weird stuff than the scary stuff

Brilliant breakdown, you really didnt miss anything. And im glad you gave your thoughts along the way rather then just simply recounting the story. Id love for the next iteration of Jigsaw to try and learn from Johns mistakes and at least try to be more consistent in their principles (not to say that was a flaw in Johns character writing, they executed the idea well)

Would never want anyone else to play as John Kramer, Tobin Bell was brilliant 👏🏻

Can we all take a minute to appreciate how good his costume is That Definitely took some hard work and dedication

@jkhtravelrn

3 жыл бұрын

Fir sure!

@Artemis_666

3 жыл бұрын

I love the eyes the most

@TheLexiconDevils

3 жыл бұрын

Looks gay

@Artemis_666

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheLexiconDevils bruh what

I think its interesting that John Kramer was the last main character covered in saw. Like you see all the other characters covered and their history with John without talking about him to much. Now he's got his own part and its over a hour long

@regiman222

3 жыл бұрын

As they say, you save the best for last.

45:50 this man has the laugh of a maniacal overlord and I love it

I want to congratulate you for this awesome video. Keep up the amazing work! Cheers

Right after you said, "If you do get a mattress ad after this, I swear it's purely coincidence," I got a mattress advertisement.

@amandatidey5751

3 жыл бұрын

I freaked out when it came on, and then I realized it was a part of the video..I'm quite gullible lol

@toyanthaog5109

3 жыл бұрын

😹😹😹i thought it was real

@654Crossman

3 жыл бұрын

@@amandatidey5751 now I feel stupid.lol

@gamerzorbitz

3 жыл бұрын

same here

@shatterednova_

3 жыл бұрын

I was a lot more confused since I had an adblocker

1 hour CZsWorld on Saw... This is great!

@CZsWorld

3 жыл бұрын

Enjoy!

@Seeker_Blade

3 жыл бұрын

It really is!

Thanks for the video dude. I can't do gory blood and guts movies but I was fascinated by the story so this video was perfect for me.

Ty for this incredible vid. One of my fav horror series and you did a great job and you’re a awesome storyteller

Holy shit dude this is over 1 hour damn I really appreciate the hard work

@cutieetae3351

3 жыл бұрын

I can't imagine all the editing down and adding effects. This probably takes FOREVER.

@CZsWorld

3 жыл бұрын

It took a while.

@rolandocastro9425

3 жыл бұрын

@@CZsWorld more than 2 weeks?

*Karen didn’t put kidz bop on in the car for little Jimmy* Jigsaw:so you’ve chosen death

@evanschulze7941

3 жыл бұрын

Little Jimmy gotta have his music

@Drawingodds

3 жыл бұрын

The thought of Jigsaw vs a Karen.. who would win?…

@zhubacca

3 жыл бұрын

Shitty unoriginal memepost

@evanschulze7941

3 жыл бұрын

@@zhubacca Dude. It's just a comment. At least its not the type thats like "He's the type of guy that would (insert here)."

@xXJunieXx

3 жыл бұрын

@@zhubaccagonna need to slow your damn roll there You comedy expert if you you think it’s shit then make a comment that can get more likes than me 🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻

This is so good! I didn’t want to rewatch the movies. Love these! ❤

killing it with these SAW vids man, thank you for them

@ot7biasedmashups

3 жыл бұрын

Waiting for the saw themed asmr video now xD

@TheASMRRyan

3 жыл бұрын

@@ot7biasedmashups hahaha just released one actually ;)

@mythicalgiraffe23

3 жыл бұрын

Oh, hi dad

@mrmann4208

3 жыл бұрын

Why hello there, old sport

@theblazingchris7339

3 жыл бұрын

KILLING IS DISTASTEFUL!!

Jeff's test being John's last is symbolic. Both men lost their child to accidents caused by the carelessness of others. John wanted to see if Jeff could forgive and move on in ways John was never really able to. Jeff failing his test and being unable to move on is a mirror of John dwelling on what happened to his own child and taking revenge on Cecil. Jeff killing John and losing his wife to the collar and ultimately dying as a result also mirrors how John, unable to move on, lost his wife and ultimately set him on the path to die because John was also unable to move on. Jeff would have been John's greatest accomplishment had Jigsaws method worked.

@tonimarie3638

2 жыл бұрын

Amazing this comment what a way to look at it

If John was so wealthy, I always wondered why he didn’t just pay for treatment himself

I loved this video! You answered so some questions I had asked myself about Hoffman and Logan. There are no words that can express how a really good job you made! 💯💯💯

Possible explanation for why John doesn’t shock Adam after the gunshot: John doesnt care if Adam dies or not, he’s testing the willingness of Gordon to kill Adam to save his family. Because Gordon demonstrated he WILL kill Adam to win his game, whether or not Adam survives the gun shot is unimportant

@amiralbezea2016

3 жыл бұрын

What was the win condition for Adam? Sorry for asking that but IT was a while since i saw the movie , maybe in eyes of John he won or Bcs Gordon won cuz he " killed "Adam And the electro shock was not anymore an option

@RedScatta

3 жыл бұрын

@@amiralbezea2016 His way to win was to watch how he dies or that he tries to do something against it:)

@GabeR115

3 жыл бұрын

@@amiralbezea2016 Exactly what the other person said, his game was just to survive

@shaniatingman2083

3 жыл бұрын

yes, we saw the movie

John would look at my bipolar disorder and be like “yep a trap will fix that”

@someone-lc6se

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe 😂

@rocketbaboon2003

3 жыл бұрын

It would

@marwan4358

3 жыл бұрын

It would work like a charm

@dercoffee2825

3 жыл бұрын

@@marwan4358 How? Replacing disorder with Trauma?

@NOTDeezy.

3 жыл бұрын

Yall goddamn ableist in the replies

41:32 why does he look like an older Eminem 😂😂 "will the real jigsaw please stand up, please stand up! 🎶"

I saw that episode where Spongebob told Gary to go calling him a stupid animal not realizing (as he was covering his eyes) Gary was gone and Patrick had showed up and was standing right there as he said that. Honestly, Patrick took that better than Amanda took John's hallucinations, him helping Lynn, and him telling her she wasn't needed at the time.

@ashleighstratmann7783

10 ай бұрын

It’s still funny somewhat because in SpongeBob’s case he wasn’t aware he just said that to Patrick. And I seen other episodes where Patrick been upset or angry about something and he actually took SpongeBob saying all that rather well in general

@andredunbar3773

10 ай бұрын

He was saying those things to the seahorse he had been keeping, Mystery, not Gary the snail.

@jaxystarr7108

9 ай бұрын

​@@andredunbar3773he would never say such a thing to Gary.. 🙌

@andredunbar3773

9 ай бұрын

@@jaxystarr7108 Exactly

Even as someone who is not a fan of the movies because I'm sensitive to torture and gore, this was really interesting

@alphabeticallychronological

2 жыл бұрын

hello mr. obama

@dommyyandfriendss

2 жыл бұрын

Facts

@paxtongerhart6863

2 жыл бұрын

Same!

@Liamthewaldo

2 жыл бұрын

@@paxtongerhart6863 grow up

@Liamthewaldo

2 жыл бұрын

It's not even real how can you be sensitive what a wimp 😂🤣

*gets an f on a math test* Teacher: you have to do more assignm- Me: EVERYBODY DESERVES A CHANCE.

@salamipiranha3249

2 жыл бұрын

why is this so funny

@aidenpommee766

2 жыл бұрын

Nice coconut pfp

I’m two years late but you should’ve mentioned that John met Addison Corday in his car the day that his son died, I think that he saw her as part of distracting him that night and I think that plays a huge role in why he picked her for her own trap in saw II, evidently also playing a part in the timeline and his way of thinking

Your videos man I gotta say they’re amazing for horror fans keep it up bro

My man Looking Cleaner then usual

@CZsWorld

3 жыл бұрын

If that's what you want to call clean 😆

@thedude8457

3 жыл бұрын

@@CZsWorld have you seen Spiral From the Book of Saw?

@loreniabailon3520

3 жыл бұрын

@@thedude8457 omg i was gunna ask that, watched it last night so I want to see how this channel and the how to beat channel will say about this

@randomguy1033

3 жыл бұрын

@@CZsWorld Czsworld new jigsaw confirmed?!

@TheGamer2kplays

3 жыл бұрын

@@CZsWorld great makeup and clothing work costume of billy the puppet that's awsome

lmfao the fact that he punished a father for mourning the loss of his son, or an alcoholic for cutting, or some poor old guy who just wants to end it all. idk why that's so funny to me

@amuroray9115

2 жыл бұрын

It’s funny because you realize that John’s a bullshitter. lol. He should test actual criminals

@jaeminthecreator2877

2 жыл бұрын

he kinda deviated from his main idea

@tommyortega7796

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaeminthecreator2877 kinda

@kipislekker5829

2 жыл бұрын

Not defending my boy John but Jeff kinda neglected his daughter tho

@kipislekker5829

2 жыл бұрын

@virtu hi

Jigsaw has always struck me as one of the more assholish movie villain. See, Michael Myers will kill you if he comes across you. No witnesses & all. Same with Jason. Freddy Kruger is going after folk as revenge for what happened to his human form. But John Kramer will seek you out & make up reasons to convince himself you deserve it. It's my not fault I have depression cause my son died - but I'm being told it is by this random dude who's making me mutilate myself & others that I was wrong to be upset, knowing that if I wasn't upset, he'd be telling me I moved on too fast. He picks a targets & does anything but admit he chose a person to torture for fun. It puts him closer to IT on the asshole villain scale. Hoffman, the real successor to Jigsaw - isn't even as much of a dick. He knows what he's doing is evil & kinda revels in it. There's a least something to respect there. He's good at what he does, likes it & doesn't kid himself that he's helping them.

@theunknownuser9609

Жыл бұрын

Hoffman also says in a flashback in Saw 6 when John kinda scolds him for liking brutality "You want them to suffer as much as I do"

I could not bare to watch the rest of the series but this brake down was really good ! Thanks

Imagine how much money Kramer has spent at Home Depot just to set up these elaborate traps

@MickeyMallone.

2 жыл бұрын

"Back again, Mr. Kramer?" "Yeah, I need a new drill. The last one was a headache to use."

@raven7146

2 жыл бұрын

@@MickeyMallone. I see what you did there (if I’m right)

@pimpcesslexii4011

2 жыл бұрын

@@raven7146 you’re right lol

@thepubknight6144

2 жыл бұрын

@@MickeyMallone. 7:39 love how indifferent John is when he said that lol

@adhirg

Жыл бұрын

also think about how much Jigsaw spent at his local Radio Shack, all those cassette players and analogue devices lol!

I love that you talked about his God complex. I feel like no one ever does, they just see John as a brilliant madman who is doing the right thing, even if it's brutal. Uh, no. He may have been doing that at first but he quickly spiraled out of control and used his power to decide who HE thought deserved to play his games. Killing people who didn't harm him directly at all, or people who caused pain/death but completely on accident. This is a good video. I will subscribe.

@jaeminthecreator2877

2 жыл бұрын

true at first he was doing what he promised to do, i guess bring justice, but then he came more and more ill and went agaisnt his own purpose

@rosenti

2 жыл бұрын

What you are addressing are the actions of his successor. John always gave his suspects a chance. True he had a god complex, but he never directly killed people.

@jackadams3878

2 жыл бұрын

@@rosenti amanda's first test either forced her to kill a man, or injected them with a lethal dose of drugs

@rosenti

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackadams3878 Unfortunately from watching the movie, it looks like the reverse bear trap was Amanda's first test. In which she pulls a key from a man's stomach. Now, you may want to refrain your previous comment on the pretense that this is still "murder".. Which I assume you most likely will. However, the argument stands.. That Amanda is a killer, her games were unwinnable, as in to say.. When she became the Jigsaw. Which retorts any inclination of how John may have behaved.

@kylemendes7246

2 жыл бұрын

​ her game he forced her to kill someone to save her own life. thats manipulation and if you manipulate someone to kill another person you will be tried just as if you killed someone. you can go by technicalities and say oh i didnt pull the trigger i just gave them no other option too besides death. your argument doesnt have anything to stand on so cut the shit.

This is so much better than Looper's video on the exact same topic. Thank you!

I just noticed that the apprentices who interact with each other are the ones who failed. Hoffman and Amanda were both in each other’s way and both wanted to get rid of the other more than focusing on John’s will and legacy. Same goes for Jill, once she started getting involved with Hoffman and the others she was dragged to death like the others. It’s only Gordon and Logan who hadn’t interacted with other apprentices and had simply focused on what John taught them that survived. It seems like the Jigsaw mantle is a cursed one where you have to stay pure and true to yourself to survive

I’m so glad you continued to reiterate that John is a psycho. 😂

@JdawgTheBoss

3 жыл бұрын

@F Off yeah, definitely can't become a psychopath it's a brain difference, can't even become a sociopath or get ASPD from severe trauma if your brain has matured fully. Which John was way above 30.

@cpenner7086

3 жыл бұрын

Why? Was john ever shown to be BORN this way? No he was not. He is a sociopath not a psychopath. Sociopaths can be recovered psychopaths can not

@cpenner7086

3 жыл бұрын

@@JdawgTheBoss actually you most defintely can become a sociopath. It is physical

@JdawgTheBoss

3 жыл бұрын

@@cpenner7086 You really can't become a sociopath unless you were traumatised below the age of at least 5 or all the way up to 10 ish. That's why conduct disorder exists, most sociopaths get diagnosed with CD then in adult years sociopathy if their behaviour continues. You can't become a sociopath and lack empathy once your brain has fully matured, it's literally impossible dude. The most what could happen is Jigsaw is a normal human, traumatised by what happened, and he's angry and wants revenge on people.. Heaps of neurotypicals murder people.

@cpenner7086

3 жыл бұрын

@@JdawgTheBoss I'm sorry but you are LITRRALLY contradicting yourself. You say you cant become a sociopath once your brain is fully developed (which is bullshit) because you then say in the same thing that trauma and over extreme mental conditions can cause you to be a sociopath.

Great video, dude!

Thanks for this complex analysis. At least I undeerstand it more clearly now!

Hi there, I'm in school to become a speech-language pathologist. One of the most common diagnosis's we treat is aphasia, an acquired language disorder. At 21:50 we can see that John developed aphasia from the result of a tumor. However, aphasia is a disorder that affects the parts of your brain affecting LANGUAGE. In this population you would expect to see problems with at least word finding, fluency of speech, repetition (of words spoken to the individual), and auditory comprehension. John Kramer did not exhibit problems with ANY of these, even tho some people can hide aphasia very well, and aphasia is not a monolith - there are various types with different presenting symptoms. Regardless, I think a PROGRESSIVE aphasia would get worse over time and Kramer doesn't seem to develop more severe problems with language throughout the series. Ik this is a dumb nitpick but idk why they would choose that diagnosis for him

@MickeyMallone.

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Pedantic? Yes. Educational and interesting? Also yes. Thank you.