UPDATE: I am WRONG and the drop did not change! It is still 8mm (but it feels like less now ;-) I updated the Shoe Supertool: meta-endurance.com/shoe-super-tool/

@i.p2088

2 жыл бұрын

It feels less because it is softer in the hill. Did you get the chance to try the Pro3... Surprisingly wide and midse seems to remind me a lot of the Speed 2. Maybe it's the energy return or the rocker? Pro 3 to me felt like a evolution of the Speed 2..

Looking forward to a comparison with the pro 3

100% agreement on version 1 and 2. so I might give these a try in the future 🙏

50(ish) km into mine so far and my favourite speed so far. I always found I had to break in the midsole of the v1 before it really felt great. Out of the box it was firm but with this version, the bounce was there as soon as it left the box. Like you, the upper of the new version is more comfortable for me. No toe rubbing at the end of long runs. The midsole on mine seems to be showing a little cosmetic wear already but we’ll see if it lasts the 900+ km that I got out of my last 2 pairs. Easily the best value shoe out there. Can do everything well. Always a shoe I’m excited to put on.

@AlexFilitti

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment Andy! No wear on my pair yet with about the same distance…let’s see how it goes

Hey Alex ...great review 👍...finaly a new version with some big changes lol because the v1 & V2 not so much differences...i liked my v1 till they had 400kms after that i felt them too soft on the hill and unstable espacially with a bit of pronation on my right foot...maybe i m gonna try the v3 if i can catch them at a nice discount price...will see or maybe with a new colorway because, its subjective but that blue one 🤮 lol i like too run in good shoes but i like to have a colorway which makes me want to wear them and going out for a run lol 👏👏👏😉🇫🇷

Great Review !

@AlexFilitti

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Manuel!

The Hoka Mach 4 felt slightly too tight for me in terms of width. The arch support in the Saucony Tempus protruded a bit too much into my foot. Is the Endorphin Speed 3 similar in terms of width or arch support with those shoes? If the Speed 3 is not too narrow fit for me, I will buy it.

I only tried version 2, but have to return them back. overall the fit was good, but I had some rubbing on the right pinky toe. so maybe this will be my first speed. Thanks!!

Hey, Alex! I was wondering: how do you compare the Speed 3 vs the Pro 3 in terms of durability? Last year I bought the Speed v1 for racing and speed training and I really liked it, and I was wondering if I could do the same with the Pro 3. However, I'd only do that if the durability is good enough. What do you think?

The Hoka Mach 4 felt slightly too tight for me in terms of width. The arch support in the Saucony Tempus protruded a bit too much into my foot. Is the Endorphin Speed 3 similar in terms of width or arch support with those shoes?

I think it's amazing how they made this shoe more for everyone . Also how did they make such a soft shoe so stable... agreed with everything you said . The price Us-Eu is quite insane agreed we should not have to pay for logistics 30 euro a shoe is like we could import it ourselves from USA for that price I'm a heelstriker and this shoe feels just as good for me despite the 2mm less drop no bottoming out for my 100kg . Already have 150km on my speed3 Edit: from all speeds this is the most stable one and my pronation foot does not pronate as much as say the novablast2 . Its a great fast shoe for people like me

@AlexFilitti

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your great comment, Fabian!! Let’s try to have Saucony realign their EU prices to the US ones 👍🏻🙌🏻

@fabsterun

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlexFilitti just read the other comments I was also not sure about the drop 🤣 , but it does work better somehow then the v1 and 2 maybe cause they just added overall thickness

Hey Alex! Since you've experenced both noosa tri-14 and the speed 3, may I know wether the firmness is the same for both. Is there any similarities between them?

I enjoyed the ride of the speed 1 but it was just too unstable for me. I’m so so tempted by this shoe. Currently running the Tempus and really enjoying that for slower runs but need a quicker shoe.

@AlexFilitti

2 жыл бұрын

I would be curious to hear how this one works for people enjoying the Tempus. I am myself in the opposite situation where I am tempted by the Tempus for slower stuff…

@Discomattisace

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlexFilitti I don’t think the tempus is a tempo shoe but you can run quickly in it. For slower paced runs it’s lovely. Super stable and quite bouncy. The shock absorption is amazing. It is what the endorphin shift should have been like imo.

@MarceloMarmol

Жыл бұрын

@@Discomattisace I also have the Tempus, and totally agree on what you are saying. Is not tempo, but it is light for all the absorption and how stable it is. That's for sure.

Is it true they made the front rocker less aggressive? Maybe that’s why you thought the drop had decreased!

Hi Alex! Is it more stable than the deviate nitro elite??

Great review, am new to running and i want to buy a pair of shoes that suits my running style, am a mid and forefoot striker, i have tried asics kayano 27 and 28 and both cause mw pain and injury, currently using asics noosa tri 14 and it seems very light and responsive, if you please recommend me a good trainer for everyday use as i mentioned for mid to forefoot strikers, thanks again

This is a very helpful review. I am very much a heel striker. And V2 is my favorite shoe. Would you say stock up while it’s on sale or give V3 a try? Thanks!

@AlexFilitti

2 жыл бұрын

Give v3 a try! I’m sure it will still be a great option for heel strikers, but with a different ride compared to v2. Let us know which one you prefer, I’m very curious!

I hear you saying a lot of positive things about the shoe for heel strikers, I'm a midfoot/forefoot striker....any downside for someone who lands like I do?

Hi Alex, wonderful review as always. At what rates do you think they are good for running easy runs?

@AlexFilitti

2 жыл бұрын

I do mines between 4:40 and 5:30 depending on days and fatigue. And they work nicely at the faster end of that range. Hope it makes sense

First like and first comment 🤪 I definitely want to try the new Endorphins!

@AlexFilitti

2 жыл бұрын

Double win today, Aaron :-) They're worth a try !

Does this fit the same size as the Triumph 20? I'm a 12 in the Triumph, so, go 12 in these? ty

I use the Speed 3 for long runs but I realised that it's just tomorrow soft.. After an hour or so its tiring to run in soft shoes. Speed 2 much better energy return and speed role. Any other shoes that are like the Speed 2?

I haven't noticed a huge amount of difference for me in the Speed 3 vs the previous editions. This is now my 6th pair. The 3 did feel slightly soft on the first few runs but I recall all the Speeds have had feel more "bouncy" initially and I haven't got an overly new older version to directly compare. So now my 3 just feels like a "Speed". Not noticed any obvious difference in drop as felt like 8mm or so to me (and I normally don't like a low drop) or stability but never had a problem with stability in the Speeds although the Zoom Fly 5, for example, does feel more stable per se.

Funny that you like this better that V1 or V2 with the same drop. The V1 is still the best shoe I ever laced up for daily miles.

Going to look into this shoe. What's your favorite and most versatile running shoe without a plate this year?

@AlexFilitti

2 жыл бұрын

Noosa Tri 14! Review dropping next week

Just sent my back today, it is way too soft and wobbly to my running. I have tried them all (1 2 3) and unfortunately it does not work for me.

@AlexFilitti

2 жыл бұрын

Great feedback but at the same time sorry to hear they’re not made for you

@jamesb.walker9177

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlexFilitti It is very strange, I can run on the Rebel V2 and RC elite 2 , but the Speed really does not work for my knees...

Shoes are getting so expensive. But this one might be worth it.

@AlexFilitti

2 жыл бұрын

Yes but still...why the huge price difference between the US and EU prices...

@bartekzielinski1645

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlexFilitti thanks for another great review Alex! Looking forward to updating to Speed 3 : - ) Wish prices were directly related to conversion rates in Australia too - we get some very different prices to Europe - point of origin (manufacture) is similar for all brands, so maybe it's to do with the size of market in given location for each brand?

@QronoZ713

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlexFilitti someone with a degree in economics may have to answer that. There's a huge difference between CAN and US as well, makes no sense to me. But US have lower VAT taxes I think? And just fyi, the Speed is about 20€ more expensive in my country, so about 210€.

Saucony is always pretty expensive and not as widely available for us Europeans somehow:(

Bonjour. Quel poids font-elles svp? Merci

@AlexFilitti

2 жыл бұрын

Bonjour 251g en taille 45. Ne pas hésiter à consulter meta-endurance/shoe-super-tool/ pour comparer les chaussures et leurs caractéristiques

@halmo68

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlexFilitti merci beaucoup 😊

Don`t trust a review from someone getting free trainers

@AlexFilitti

2 жыл бұрын

That's a very respectable position. Sorry that I'm not able to help.