Thank you so much, having an issue removing my old once 😂😂, it's an helpful video keep it up 🙌

I wish I would have seen this before I bought my biereley Pro.

@user-cv8js9hz4y

5 жыл бұрын

Lol I orderd berlypro kit 2 now I'm waiting on it owell extra turning will be bonus

Hello. Where I can buy this système for my slayer 10 in France? Thx

Nice demonstration thanks for sharing!!! I'll like to ask something else since the same steering wheel system has and my kayak.... I load my kayak on the roof of my car alone and the weight of the vessel is 40 Kgr about ... first I lift up the "nose" of the kayak and the most of the weight goes the fin back!!! I think that destroy the regulation(s) of the steering wheel. Do you have any suggestion(s)??? Have good time every time!!! Best regards from Hellas (Greece)!!!

@NativeWatercraft

8 ай бұрын

Thank you for reaching out! We would recommend considering a hull lift assist for a roof rack like this: www.thule.com/en-us/water-racks/kayak-and-canoe-racks/thule-hullavator-pro-_-1685448 OR this: yakima.com/products/showdown?_ga=2.1533622.666848354.1699279944-1050424523.1698936893 . Hope this helps!

@thiodorchalkias8906

8 ай бұрын

@@NativeWatercraft many thanks but I don't looking for the roof mounting of the kayak read more carefully the point is the weight of the kayak which goes to the axis of the steering wheel fin...

Why is it that my titan 10.5 come with a slayer rudder cap instead of a titan rudder cap when I bought it?

This is great for your kayak because the steering control is mounted on top of the sideboard. However, how do you do this for an Ultimate FX 13? My steering cable, and control pulley, run UNDER the side board! It is a royal pain to get to the pulley under the side board. I am going to attempt to do this today.

@prometheus33759

2 жыл бұрын

Susan, did you ever get an answer? I have the same problem with my FX 13. How is the pully accessed?

@susankrejcarek6177

2 жыл бұрын

@@prometheus33759 it's a pain, you have access it from underneath. I have changed the wire chord twice! The third time I replaced with a Paracord & it's lasted 2 years so far!

Really like the Native Propel setup compared to the Nucanoe propel setup. Can any body tell me how far down the rudder is beneath the actual kayak ? Since I’ll be fishing some pretty shallow rivers

@MSmith-jf5wo

5 жыл бұрын

The rudder does NOT go below the little "KEEL" in front of it, therefore protecting it from damage (stumps, rocks, etc.).

@fishingva9946

5 жыл бұрын

Did you ever take the titan in rivers? Ive been thinking about it but worried on low water

@MSmith-jf5wo

5 жыл бұрын

@@fishingva9946 I fish a lot of creeks and shallow water, and the lake I go to is "Notorious" for lots of sub-surface stumps (Outboard repair guys just LOVE the business that lake gives them!). I never slide the aft "clip" over the unit, as it lets it swivel up when I hit a stump or bottom. In as little as 5 seconds, you can go from powering by Propel, or raising it up and using the paddles. That simple...(And, its shallow draft is easy to navigate in as little as 6 inches of water!). I like stand-up paddling, watching for stumps, sighting fish, and watching everything. I don't have very good balance (lost hearing in one ear 25 years ago), but stand-up casting or paddling is a "Dream" in the Titan. In ankle-deep water, I just put down the wheels... Go where I WANT to go. (Great for taking your Kayak up the bank or across "the Shallows", on those little "excursions to nowhere"!). Haha!

@fishingva9946

5 жыл бұрын

@@MSmith-jf5wo yes i have the boat but we have rivers here we do 8 mile floats on and was just wondering if the rudder got bea up on the rocks

@MSmith-jf5wo

5 жыл бұрын

@@fishingva9946 If you drag anything over rocks, well...! The rudder is made of a very resilent plastic, but it will bend, some.... I plan on making a rudder from a 18-Wheeler Mud Flap and an aluminum bar (machined to fit the top plate), so I can replace anything if damaged. (I might even post when I get done, on here!).

Is this supposed to do the same thing as the Berley Pro upgrade, with the better turning radius? I'm considering going the Berley route unless this works the same.

@Akumahito

5 жыл бұрын

Native's description is extremely thin, but I'd imagine if it was an upgrade to standard throw they'd mention it. So now you have to ask yourself, is Berley worth an extra $90 just for an upgrade to turn radius or do you just want the strength of the braided line.

@Akumahito

5 жыл бұрын

At 9 minutes you can see him moving the rudder handle, and although he's not saying if its going over max or not, it seems to be the standard amount of throw and not the almost 180 Berley gives.

@dfrausto3

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks @ Akumahito for your responses, they are much appreciated. Still hoping to hear from Native on this topic. I'll continue to wait and watch for more details (or KZread videos😆)

@michaell1665

4 жыл бұрын

This kit, while providing improvement, obviously does not approach Berleypro's near 180 degree range. I love my 2016 Slayer Propel 16 and happen to think that it's possibly the most durable (and internally dry) hull in its class! That being said, I've never understood why Native has taken so long to make needed innovations like steering improvements, longer rudders, weed guards, and redesign of the top plate that supports the rudder handle!

@MrBigBoy4Life

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaell1665 so true, especially with how much they charge for their kayaks.

Is the turning radius in this better or the same than the BerelyPro? That's my only question that need to be answered before I pull the trigger on this.

@antrigen1480

5 жыл бұрын

all this does is replace the cable with corded rubber, the B Pro gives much tighter turning than the stock Native setup and when you add a better rudder it really turns tight. but it all costs money. I also find myself having to adjust the steering a lot more with cord as versus cable.

@MSmith-jf5wo

5 жыл бұрын

@@antrigen1480 Use 600 pound Kite-Flying line (Wrapped Spectra), like I did. I pre-stretched it before installing, and never had to re-adjust...! (I guess I could've used 350# or 450# line, but the 600# is all I had left over from my Kite Surfing days!). And, it was "FREE"! Haha!

@covidisevent201

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/aoV_0dmamqbfe5c.html. My mod is free and better for this style of rudder.

Man, you guys must’ve turned off the hr or so if trying to get the line fed through the hull and ya boy losing his shit.. BC I’ve done thrown pliers up against the fence three times 😂 HELLLLP

@EddieTyre1

3 жыл бұрын

NM, after i walked away for a minute and came back fresh.. I finished about 20 minutes later. Just had to work from the rudder side up to the handle side and use different wires as guides.

should be half price for all native kayak owners who still have the steel wire installed on their yaks.. i just upgraded a month ago to the BerleyPro kit just noticed it doesnt even make the rudder turn so radically as with the BerleyPro kit

@tonyroc14

5 жыл бұрын

THIS! It should be a free exchange when you're paying 2800 bucks for a kayak (Titan 12)

What a nightmare this kayak has been for me. The steering system is an absolute joke. If you’re reading this and thinking about getting a Native I am telling you right now, look some where else. I wanted this kayak for two years. Waited to get the 2020 with all the new upgrades and it has been a freaking nightmare of a kayak. Had problems with the drive after only one year. Internals completely stripped, constantly messing with the steering. Absolutely hate this kayak.

@covidisevent201

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/aoV_0dmamqbfe5c.html. Check this out it's a fix for the same style of rudder I came up with. Works 💪.