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@monkeh86

11 ай бұрын

no 🙂

@KeithEngel

11 ай бұрын

I just used this service and it was great, sold my old 2060 getting offered a quote and hassle free shipping. Got 80 for 2060 and sure I probably could have gotten a bit more if I sold it on my own, but didn't want to go through the hassle of listing, paying for shipping ect.

@StopBlurryGames

11 ай бұрын

Tekken 8 CNT has forced upscaling. Also you should review that email from me. You need to test VSM, Nanite and Lumen.

@kevinerbs2778

11 ай бұрын

You should compare D.L.S.S 3 frame generation to S.L.I in Mount & Blade II : Banner lord.

@glebzhdanovich8728

11 ай бұрын

hello mb you can help me pleas im from Belarus no money me poor only food i need GPU 4060 mb you can gift me GPU pleas ) Belarus Minsk lane Kaliningradsky 13-3 post index 220012 Gleb Zhdanovich (sorry)

I love how Daniel used his actual index finger as a pointer on screen by moving his camera around

@stefanaraharijaona324

11 ай бұрын

Me too. That's why I prefer to follow this guy's Channel

@zenithchan1646

11 ай бұрын

🤓☝️

@TheVanillatech

11 ай бұрын

I made a daniel with index finger pointer for my windows 11 main PC. Now I use his index finger for everything, from browsing to turning up the volume in WINAMP!

11 ай бұрын

one of the best methods to tell the viewers where to look, really appreciate it, not many people do this

@Chasm9

11 ай бұрын

As long as we don't get the middle finger, it's alright :)

the whole generation exists to upsell you to the 4090💀

You are the best. I love that you go in depth on the experience of actually playing the titles rather than simply giving us the results. A perk of being a teacher I guess!

Let's see.. if you actually need those 16 GB, you probably also need a faster GPU. So you might as well grab the 4070 (or something faster) or, perhaps go AMD. I ... kinda don't get what they were thinking with the 4060 Ti 16GB. Ideally, the 4060 should have 8 GB, the 4060 Ti should have 12 and the 4070 (and 4070 Ti) should have 16 GB. That would make a bit more sense and would make Nvidia's mid-to-high range a bit less confusing.

@LipeTheKid007

11 ай бұрын

4060 should be 12 gigs as the previous 3060 8 GB is not enough... But yeah, 4060 ti could be 12 or 16 And the 4070's should be 16 GB But for 4060, 8 GB is not enough

@TheRealXXDarknezz

11 ай бұрын

That's exactly what they did with the 3060 12GB . Back when it came out it was a lot weaker than the e.g. 3070Ti, so people where saying it's stupid for such a weak GPU to have so much VRAM. I feel like they want their more expensive higher mid-end cards like the 3070(Ti) and now 4070(Ti) to become obsolete faster, to force the consumers to upgrade earlier. With the lower end they don't care as much about VRAM as those cards will begin to struggle earlier either way due to being weaker and low end consumers may be more succeptible to "more Vram must mean more power" marketing.

@yellowflash511

11 ай бұрын

Doesn't work like that. If you have higher VRAM you can use better quality textures which doesn't affect performance if you have the VRAM for it. That's the main difference people just don't know about and textures transform the visuals the most obviously. And 6800xt completely shits on 4060ti even in ray tracing as tested by hardware Unboxed making the 4060ti obsolete for gaming.

@Abi_Official

11 ай бұрын

@@yellowflash511 That's true, Textures quality is very VRAM intensive so having a GPU with a lot more VRAM will help a lot in that regard, and its also the thing most noticeable in games, that's why I believe in consoles to keep a consistent experience most titles play on medium while having texture related settings maxed out, since the PS5 has like 16 GB and VRAM isn't an issue so they look great while performing consistently

@Cenzurat

11 ай бұрын

nah it should start at 12, no 8 gb unless its a 4050 or 4030 :P, but yah 4070 /ti should have 16 cause it is fast enough to use it, then 4080 with 20 and 4090 with 24, would've been great

rtx 4070 12gb would have been an awsome rtx 3060 12gb replacement as a 60 class card.

@GewelReal

11 ай бұрын

it is a 60 class die lol

@Kiwi-fr5jy

11 ай бұрын

​​@@GewelRealI was so confused for a sec. I thought u were talling him to die.

@md.fazlerabbi5265

11 ай бұрын

@@GewelReal how is AD 104 60 class??

@PQED

11 ай бұрын

@@md.fazlerabbi5265 To make a long answer short: Because AD103 exists. If you go back and look at every previous generation there are no uneven numbered dies. 40-series is a sham.

@md.fazlerabbi5265

11 ай бұрын

@@PQED GA 103 exists too.

Great work on the review. It's a little depressing how Nvidia is using VRAM to add another layer of segmentation to a market that is already sliced and diced in to a dozen performance tiers. I miss the old days when every new GPU was better than the previous one. Now there's overlap between several generations with crap like this.

@jstegall44

11 ай бұрын

Yup nvidia kinda blows. I have gone AMD and have no regerts.

@RN1441

11 ай бұрын

@@jstegall44I used ATI/AMD from 1995 until I switched over at the 1080 generation due to the completely lacking performance on the AMD side. I hope to go back some day, but AMD keeps pulling defeat from the jaws of victory.

@Psxpirate1

11 ай бұрын

​@@jstegall44regerts.. lol

@HyperionZero

11 ай бұрын

it's actually a smart marketing tactic as much as people hate it :)

@Thunderhawk51

9 ай бұрын

Nvidia: hold my 4070 Super and 4080 Super!

Wow I learned so much watching this. Thank you for your time and effort in explaining. Your final analysis is very helpful and the viewer should still watch all the segments in this video. Thanks again. 🇨🇦

4060 ti 16GB is great by performance but not for price... Actually, the 16GB should be the only version, 8GB shouldn't exist... 4060 non-ti should be 12GB and the 4070 nornal/ti should be 16 gigs

@InternetListener

11 ай бұрын

some people realized of that some weeks ago, not only with first actual perfromance leaks but with confirmed specifications that would be extrapolated to know expected perfromance thanks to the existence of previous RTX cards in professionals versions or modded with more vram... RTX 30 was already vram bottlenecked by size, and not so much pcie 3.0 to 4.0 and attention to make seem RX 6000 or RTX 30 as better gpus to buy over RTX 40... youtubers were too long and too focused on helping sell old stock and not saying what was coming as better performant...some were accused of fanboys...when the rality is that lower (still too expensive) 4060 and 4070 are good technically (with the faults you point, 4070 has 16 Gb ram stock when is sold as RTX 4090 mobile 16GB) and solved, why nvidia has launched limited by design gpus? why noibody points the evidence until after they're launched and tested? it was obvious... 4060 Ti 8Gb to 16GB got and get so much trash reviews...whne the important thing is to test >8gb vram to 12GB and the >12 to 16GB of vram use scenarios... it's been weeks we now 4060 ti 16GB can be as fast as 4070 12 in some cases like 0:01 shows...

@Atheismo9760

11 ай бұрын

Actually the performance is very poor, given that it's just slightly better than the 3060 ti.

@Abi_Official

11 ай бұрын

@@Atheismo9760 But Its a good alternative if you're thinking to upgrade, also much more power efficient, draws way less power and giving slightly better experience for ppl who care about electricity bills

@toxicavenger6172

11 ай бұрын

​@@Abi_Officialthe only reason the 4060 ti is slightly better than the 3060 is dlss 3.

@skywalker1991

11 ай бұрын

Hope fanboys wake up sooner, Nvidia is ripping them off big time , 8gb GPU was planned so its obsolete within a year or 2 , your hard earned $400.00 is only good for 2 years use , it's like subscription system , Nvidia dirtiest company , wake up fanboys, learn to say no .

Kudos on the presentation of fps as well as their relative percentages its something that I like more in comparison to digital foundry's layout in which they only show one or the other at a time. Great analysis Daniel

He should consider making a cursor theme pack with him as the default pointer. The 6800xt was/is a totally excellent card, the 4070 is also okay.

@Aleksey-vd9oc

11 ай бұрын

6800 excellent, but not a tottaly. This card cannot be bought for $ 500 at a local store in 5 minutes, as it can be done with 4070, which means that the comparison is incorrect. And the 6800xt is a hot video card, you will have to tinker with it to make it quieter and you can run into an unsuccessful cooling system and then you can lose time and money altogether. In addition, the 4070 has FG, and the 6800xt has +4 GB, which most likely will never be needed.

@Ju-Peter667

8 ай бұрын

@@Aleksey-vd9ocFor someone liek me who needs more vram the 4060ti w 16gb is perfect since it also allows me to use nvidia features that the games I play often have

@Physics072

7 ай бұрын

@@Aleksey-vd9oc I have a 4070 and FG had zero to do with my purchase. Could care less about that. It was power draw, size (would fit into my case) I wish it had 16GB though. 12GB is not an issue though at least today.

@sonatafx

6 ай бұрын

​@Aleksey-vd9oc unfortunately where I live in europe, even now 5 months later the 4070 is still sitting at 640 while the 6800 is 440 and 6800xt is 519

@ChancySanah

6 ай бұрын

@@sonatafx the 6800xt is as good if not better than the 4070 even though it is last gen. and the non-xt is not a bad gaming card either. The 4070 is okay it's not 600 dollars okay though.

Imagine paying $600 in 2023 for a GPU and you cant play some games at max settings 60fps in 4k or 1440p. ;_;

@funkonede

8 ай бұрын

My old RTX2080ti, from 2018 for $1300, does 30 FPS in the same game. 🤡

@Commander_CTD

2 ай бұрын

⁠@@funkonedemy god pc with a gt 630 gets less 20 fps in 1080p on Fortnite 😮

Me when I pay 100$ more for a GPU with more VRAM but still can't target 60fps constantly: 💀

@leovanlierop4580

11 ай бұрын

For those buying that card, it shouldn't be too difficult getting the right settings with pleasing graphics.

@Aleksey-vd9oc

11 ай бұрын

And you stop listening to assholes, and just turn on DLSS ;)

Daniel you have carved yourself out a nice spot as a tech KZreadr with your work and perspective, well done

@TheEmolano

10 ай бұрын

I just saw a big Brazilian tech youtuber I follow mention him. Kind of a weird experience considering this guy has 10x more subs than Daniel and it's more than a decade on youtube. That's a testament to Daniel's hard work.

Love the quality and time put into the vids!

Always happy to see a new GPU comparison in the morning. Cheers!

Thanks for all your hard work and comparisons! 😊

Thnaks Daniel as always for such a comprehensive comparision, however dont understand the advancement in GPUs, are we moving on to higher res gaming or coming backwards, a $350-400 gpus struggling on 1440p

Honestly probably would have bought a 4070 if it had 16GB, went with 6950XT instead. Your becoming a staple alongside GN and HUB for me, nice work!

@TwinkleTutsies

11 ай бұрын

I also made this exact decision but unfortunately my 6950xt was black screening at 4k high fps so sent it back and got the 4070..definitely not as strong in brute force but something has to be said for DLSS and almost half the power usage.. After trying both I'm glad I ended with the 4070..for now until vram hurts me 😅

@clem9808

11 ай бұрын

At least now all games that had vram issues finally been fixed by their devs, and not a single game exceeds 12gb of vram @1440p. Well just for now of course! 😂

@sammiller6631

11 ай бұрын

@@TwinkleTutsies DLSS will not help you in the upcoming games like Starfield that will not have DLSS support. Adding DLSS is an extra headache for developers. The time and effort saved by not including DLSS seems to be worth it for more developers. Unless Nvidia starts paying devs to include their proprietary stuff instead of expecting devs to do extra work for free.

@TwinkleTutsies

11 ай бұрын

@@sammiller6631 if only that were the case.. AMD seems to be stopping AMD sponsored games from implementing DLSS it has recently come out if you are keeping up with youtube channels like hardware unboxed

@g.eberling8700

11 ай бұрын

​@@sammiller6631And developers rather shift resources on tech that can be used on a wide scale of gpu's and benefits most of us.

Love your reviews! It's not like other big name reviewers that don't even show the gameplay.

Have you ever done a comparison of the differences between nvidia’s one click game optimization settings across different GPUs? I’d be interested in seeing how much it actually tunes to the specific cards capabilities.

Here in Oz, using the cheapest local prices I can find, it's $813AUD for the 16GB 4060 Ti, $849 for the 6800 XT and $885 for the 4070. The $36 difference between the 6800 XT and 4070 makes for arguments either way depending on use, but the 4060 Ti for $36 less than the 6800 XT is a bad joke.

@KeithEngel

11 ай бұрын

That is the pricing here in the states as well, the 6800XT is the better deal.

@Valkian24

11 ай бұрын

$885 for the 4070? I live in Australia and I have yet to see it at that price!

@Joric78

11 ай бұрын

@@Valkian24 Umart/MSY for the PNY 2 fan version.

Great quick explanation of everything before getting started…This is how it should be done every once in awhile to remind or introduce people of these stats…

nice vid was looking for this :)

Daniel thank you - we really appreciate your hard work, and I enjoy that you talk us through your presentation - Brava

Thank you for the hard work/information, not sure now if I am more knowledgeable or more confused, lol.

Its weird how they put 16gb on a card that doesnt have the power for higher settings and need the gb. 4060 should have been 12 gb, 4070 16 gb.

@df8340

11 ай бұрын

You'd have to increase the bus to do each, at that point it's just renaming the 70 -> to 60 ect

@toxicavenger6172

11 ай бұрын

The 70 class is basically a 60 class die so they definitely did a renaming already.

@niebuhr6197

11 ай бұрын

​@@toxicavenger6172ad104 is far from 60 class chip. 4060 ti is more like it

@syncmonism

11 ай бұрын

@@df8340 And that would have made a lot of sense to do, especially with the 4070, maybe not so much with the 4060 ti, especially because the 4060 ti was actually designed with laptops in mind, so Nvidia needed that 128-bit version regardless of what they were going to do with desktop designs.

I'm looking to get a new graphics card and I can't believe out of all the videos I've watched where people talk about the 4060ti's 8GB and 16GB variants so simply. Not one of them mentioned about the relationship the system ram and the video card ram has and you've explained it to an idiot like me! Thank you!

Fantastic video! Thank you for making something like this! :)

@fireblossom564

10 ай бұрын

Keep saving up money. Pc gaming is an expensive hobby 💀

Perfect video. Ty! And very well explained

Talk about comprehensive! Excellent work again!

Love your analysis!! 👍 I may be a minority here but I would like to see how the 4060 Ti 16GB performs in 4K RT DLSS-Q FG across the most demanding games that support such settings. Does it manage to stay above 30fps? 4070 ran into VRAM limitation in R & C 4K RT gave me a chill. Would you please run a detailed test of 4K RT with Frame Gen only (stress testing VRAM capacity), comparing to 4060 ti 16GB, to find if there is any other game that poses issues with 12GB cards?

@Mike1984-lc9rh

11 ай бұрын

I second that. Those cards make sense for budget 4k 30 to 60 FPS gaming with frame gen being on.

Going from a 1660 ti to a 4060ti, Gonna gift my lil bro my old gaming rig this chrismas. I cant wait to see his reaction!

isnt that if VRAM at 8GB is full and still same fps as on 16GB, textures are not loaded?

G do you think ultra settings are strictly there to provoke you to buy a new GPU

If i look the Powerlimit, is the 4060ti 8GB Stock & the 4060ti 16GB OC? (4.42 - the 8GB 90W- the other 150W?

The 4070 in terms of value isn't that bad, at least compared to the 4060 Ti 16 gb. A decent performance jump from the 3070 and is now comparable to a 3080, 50% more VRAM than last gen, a higher memory bus able to use the VRAM more efficiently (still lower than the 3070 because screw Nvidia), draws much less power etc... I wish it had 16 gb instead of 12 gb and that it was priced like last gen, but for what it is it could be worse (Like the 4060 Ti 16 gb lol)

@raihanirsyadi7516

11 ай бұрын

+ you get free diablo iv if you buy it on launch, so basically it was $530 lol

@melexxa

11 ай бұрын

The 4070 has higher memory bandwidth than the 3070 despite having a narrow bus width, and that too without the L2 cache "effective" bandwitdh shenanigans 🤷

@ObamaPhoneProMax5G

11 ай бұрын

I went with the 4070 for my new build. I have no regrets. Did my research before purchasing and went with the best value for the money out of current generation graphics cards. I wanted to buy new and current gen for my brand new build. Works fantastic with my 1440p monitor.

@raihanirsyadi7516

11 ай бұрын

@@ObamaPhoneProMax5G same with me. I didnt have to replace my 550w PSU and small case by buying dual fans rtx 4070. if I bought the AMD counterparts I have to upgrade my PSU and case, and the electricity is much higher too. and I only play AAA games mostly, so I need those Frame Gens and DLSS

@itsnodee4612

11 ай бұрын

@@raihanirsyadi7516which dual fan model did you get, I’m looking at the dual fans as well, hows the cooling performance?

With 3060Ti being completely gone from the market now, 6700XT is getting out of stock now 4060Ti is the last option for 350-400$ range for new gpu😮

@maximus3294

11 ай бұрын

tragic

@AaronShenghao

11 ай бұрын

AMD is supposed to launch their lower tier GPU in a month or so.

@kennethpereyda5707

11 ай бұрын

@@AaronShenghao they already did- the 7600

@pkpnyt4711

11 ай бұрын

@@kennethpereyda5707he's talking about the 7700XT and 7800 XT which was reported as releasing in a month.

@kennethpereyda5707

11 ай бұрын

@@pkpnyt4711 um the 7800 isn't a low end GPU should compete against the Nvidia 3ard tier card the 4070 Ti

Very helpful, Thank you.

Perfect test! Thank you!

I love this comparison! I managed to find a 4070 at Best Buy open box "excellent condition" for $480! Stress tested the hell out of it and it's working great!

Any time, did you activated Dlss?

16gb 4060ti is the best of the 3 for deep learning/AI tasks, and it's absolutely worth few extra dollars over 8gb version.

@eric_so_good

5 ай бұрын

I'm here for this. Was really debating 3060 (12gb), 4060 (16gb) :(

@gaius100bc

5 ай бұрын

@@eric_so_good Depends what exactly you are planning to do with it. My current build is now dual gpu, 1x 4060 ti 16gb and 1x Tesla P40 24GB, for a total of 40GB of VRAM, both of those are of nearly equal performance, individually.

@eric_so_good

5 ай бұрын

@@gaius100bc Thank you a lot for your fast response! I'm buying the 16gb in the next few hours so fast response would be soooo appreciated! I heard that the cuda core compared to 3060 was reduced as well as the memory bandwidth, how is your experience regarding this on dl/ai tasks related? Thank you! And also I also have a tesla gpu too haha!

@eric_so_good

5 ай бұрын

@@gaius100bc * my tesla gpu is the M40 with 24 GB VRAM

@gaius100bc

5 ай бұрын

@@eric_so_good it's not enough VRAM from training, so I never tried training or fine tuning with that card, instead I tend to focus on inference. As for inference, 4060 ti 16gb - is quite cut down, but usable, 7b parameter model with llama.cpp at 4bit quantized will get you inference speed of ~40 tokens per second (with low context size), which is perfectly fine imho.

I love his fur texture. Looks so nice. I'm gonna have to give this game a go. Thanks for the vid as always much appreciated!

Can you test a 3070 8GB in PCIe 4.0 x16 mode against 4060 Ti 16GB?

i still rock a 1080 with 8gb. wanting to upgrad for a year now but still didn't. i don't know - i am on a 1440p 144hz screen nad may change to 3440x1440 wide but none of all this cards - since 20xx series really does make me change as i have to spend my money wisely. what do you guys think. is it the right time to boy an AMD 6xx/7xx series or a 4070 ... or should i wait? usually i feel confident after 4-5 years for an upgrade - but times changed. lemme know your thoughts please

@rushgameing3085

11 ай бұрын

The best cheap upgrade is the 6800xt or get the 12gb radeon card that’s even cheaper and still more than capable at 1440p. I feel ya bro I had the 1060 and now 3060ti and even I want to upgrade

@syncmonism

11 ай бұрын

@@rushgameing3085 That's very good advice. If the rumors about the 7800 XT are true, it will be a bit slower than the 6800 XT, and cost around 550. However, the 7800 XT will probably also be a good option, even if it ends up being a little slower than the 6800 XT. I suspect that the 7800 XT would eventually catch up to the 6800 XT in performance because it has a newer architecture, and/or it might eventually end up with superior upscaling abilities, and it will be better at ray tracing than the 6800 XT on day one, though I really don't think that ray tracing performance is going to be all that useful at this performance tier, as it's going to be the first thing you want to turn off in order to improve performance in demanding games. Also, basic "Lumen" lighting, which is a type of ray tracing used in Unreal Engine 5, works just as well on RX 6000 series cards as it does on Nvidia cards, and that might be the most common and practical form of ray tracing in games over the next three years for this performance tier.

@rushgameing3085

11 ай бұрын

@@syncmonism well the 7800xt is over 3 year newer so it should be better, but I’d choose the 6800xt over it. 16gb of Vram is 16gb regardless of whatever “ upscaling ability “ or more units the card comes with. Both have 256bit speed so really only paying for more processing power

Question......what price would be a good price for the 4060 ti 16gb. I only have a 600 watt power supply so the only 16 GB card that I can use would be the 4060.....as far as I know.

How can you make these comparisons without having consumption of current in the analysis?

I’d love to see something like a 3080 10GB in the comparison too. Given a used one is also about 400 USD/EUR

@NostalgicMem0ries

11 ай бұрын

3080 uses twice as much power, so its not worth it, also 10gb hits vram wall way more times than 12gb that only has issues with 3 4 games out of thousands. 4070 is better buy with frame gen and more vram also way more efficient. most ppl use that gpu with 550 600w psu, no need to upgrade like for 4080 3080 3090 4090 or amd power hungry gpus

@UKKNGaming

11 ай бұрын

​@@NostalgicMem0riesare you dumb you can undervolt AMD GPUs with their on software lol nobody runs their cards stock. Only poor people complain about power consumption and if you're buying a top tier card power should not be a factor 🤡

@PQED

11 ай бұрын

@@NostalgicMem0ries The 3080 handles the VRAM-spill better though, even with just 10GB (and it's overall a slightly more powerful GPU). Ideally you'd get the 12GB version, but it's fairly rare. Either way you're more likely to be able to find a used card too. Not that I'd recommend a GPU with less than 16GB VRAM today (except for the 4060ti and 4080; they're terrible value), which generally means going AMD. If you can find a vanilla RX 6800 you'd get great raster performance, 16GB, and not-so-high power usage (especially if you undervolt; which you should). RT performance may not be great, but then again the tech is still in its infancy. No frame gen, but I personally don't see that as a negative. DLSS? Maybe, though it's not that useful unless you run at 4k. What you'd spend on electricity over the coming years, you'd might as well save on the initial GPU purchase; if we are to abide by that logic. I'd be more concerned with CPU/platform choice for that, since you're more likely to keep those parts longer.

@Aleksey-vd9oc

11 ай бұрын

@@NostalgicMem0ries +1, I agree.

Biggest problem aside from price on the 16gb version is you’re not getting a larger bus, not getting more cuda cores, nothing else is better to justify the price bump aside from the vram. 3060 8gb vs 12gb has a more noticeable difference

@syncmonism

11 ай бұрын

The 8GB 3060 also has a narrower memory bus and less memory bandwidth than the 12GB version, which really hurts it. Also, it's generally two or more years later when the higher capacity Vram cards start to really show their value. The 4070 is great right now, but it's not going to age as well as cards in the same performance tier which have 16GB of Vram. It's already coming up against Vram limitations, as seen in Ratchet and Clank at 1440p Very High with RT, where it only manages 1FPS better than the 16GB 4060 ti, and the same 1% lows. That's a clear case of its Vram holding it back. It should be a lot more powerful than the 4060 ti in RT at 1440p if it has enough Vram to work with. If you look back to cards like the 4GB RX 480, they were totally fine for years, but eventually the 8GB version pulled way ahead of it in a lot of games. The 4GB 480 was still not a bad value, but the 8GB version definitely proved to be at least as good of a value in the long run. If the 4070 is coming up againt Vram limitations in games only a few months after it's released, just imagine how much worse it's going to get in two or three years from now. If you upgrade your card every two years, it doesn't matter as much, but it will still affect the resale value of your card, and GPU prices can fluctuate a lot, so you can't count on there being good upgrade options available every two years anymore. Keep in mind also that the first mainstream 8GB graphics card was released NINE years ago now, for 330 USD, which is equivalent to around 410 USD today if you adjust for inflation. Nvidia's first mainstream 8GB card was released 7 years ago, for 380 USD at the time. A 500 dollar PS5 has an 8-core Zen 2 CPU, a GPU, a very fast SSD, 3.5 GB of system memory, and 12.5 GB of dedicated Vram. Vram costs Nvidia less than 4 dollars per gigabyte. Considering these things, I think we should be expecting more than 12GB of Vram from a 600 dollar graphics card.

I'd like to see a 4070 vs 4070 TI comparison now. I'm curious if the value is there for the 4070 TI comparably.

@MATTIEMMM

11 ай бұрын

@Navi_xx I think, like many things, "not worth the price" is always highly subjective. That's why these videos matter. Of course, the TI is and always should be faster. How much better in the real world is the question. Many are purchasing the 4070 TI, so I'd say it's quite clear many do not think the 4070 is quite worth it. A video breaking the two down would help people on the fence.

You should have the flying nimbus underneath you if you're going float like that😂

Hey bro, just need some advice, I am upgrading to a rtx4060ti 16gb as its within my budget, i am not getting a new cpu or mother board until next year, but im debating if to stick to 1080p for now or upgrade to 1440p, I have a ryzen 5 3600 and was told theirs no point upgrading to a 5600, and might as well save to get a even better cpu since the performance increase isnt huge enough for that upgrade, do you think 1440p is ok for an amd3600 parried with a rtx4060ti 16gb? iv seen plenty with them paried at 1080p getting very good high performance, and 1440p isn't as bad but haven't seen much using 1440p with that cpu, as its just below the 5600x, i will be upgrading my cpu so 1440p will work with that when i do, but im just debating if i should now with my amd3600, or wait, all im asking is will the performance be adequate with the cpu until i upgrade to a better one for 1440p?

@draxalexander10th

9 ай бұрын

4060 ti it will be playable at 1080p at many games with maxed settings, 1440p for some games with maxed set is not playable (under 60 fps i think isnot playable)

@ShanePlaysTV

9 ай бұрын

@@draxalexander10th I understand thanks man, going to get a 4070 12gb instead. Only £100 more. Plus the performance boost for 1440p is actually very good for what I want. And it’s ok with my cpu. Saw some videos with the 4070 12gb and amd3600 and the performance is good with quite a high fps for 1440p compared to 4060, Il be upgrading my cpu and motherboard next year anyway so it’ll be an good performance boost even more anyway. Just wanted a 1440p card which could Handel a high fps ish, with my cpu until I get a new one

The 4070 is the only card with consistent significant advantage among these three. Yes it costs more, but you get more in every case. Can't say that about the 4060ti with 16Gb VRAM. I can't see buying a mid tp high tier 8Gb card today. I am currently building a PC with the 4070.

@deadlistt

11 ай бұрын

4070 user here, the card is amazing go for it! I ended up being extremely pleasantly surprised how good DLSS Frame gen is in singeplayer titles ( it is pretty garbage in multiplayer though from my testing )

@syncmonism

11 ай бұрын

I agree that the 4070 is a better value than the 16GB 4060 ti at 100 USD more. However, the 16GB 4060 ti got to within 1 FPS, and tied in 1% lows, at 1440p Very High (with RT), vs. the 4070, and actually beat it at 4k with those settings though neither card ran fast enough at 4k with those settings for it to matter. Given that there's even 1 game where the 16GB 4060 ti was able to match the 4070, that means that the 4070 would have FOR SURE been faster if it had more Vram. If that's already happening only a few months after the card was first released, then it's likely to happen more and more over the next few years. Higher capacity versions of graphics cards virtually always end up proving to be a lot better, sooner or later. Usually it takes around two years or more, such as with the 8GB versions of the RX 480 and 580, as well as with the 6GB GTX 1060. If a graphics card only has barely enough Vram when it first launches to reach it's full potential, that's not good, and will likely limit what settings you can use with it significantly in the future. The 4070 won't be a terrible card, and won't become obsolete until a very long time from now, but it would for sure be a significantly better card if it had been designed to have 16GB of Vram. The 16GB AMD cards are going to age well against the 4070, but most people will just not care enough about that Vram difference to care about it, especially if the 7800 XT ends up being slower than the 4070 and the 6800 XT in standard raster performance, but still costs 550 (as rumored).

I'm on the verge of buying a new GPU. I'm waiting for the special offers in November, like I'm sure most people are. I was holding out since January to see what the 40 range was going to deliver but I think after this, my mind is pretty much set on the 4070. Thank you Daniel. You've really made my choice quite easy. I'll be using this GPU for the next 5 to 10 years. Do you think going from the 1060 3GB card, that now can only run new titles due to my excessive amount of RAM, that the 4070 will last me another 5 - 8 years?

@tomglover98

11 ай бұрын

depends on what titles, resolutions and settings, honestly i doubt it will hold up 5 - 10 years like usage in this video for new coming titles, if its struggling to at some games get 60fps on ultra or 1440p right now then give it another 3 years of bad game development and you will be running low settings to bounce around an unstable under 60 The 10 series was such a good marketing beacon for nvidia for long lasting reliable cards and the 20 series were good too, 30 & 40 series seems not good for new coming titles, i think the blame is on nvidia themselves taking advantage of the international shortages and game developers making shit games maybe look at amd alternatives with more vram or if you can afford it maybe a 4080 (real 4070)

@Jaloora4369

11 ай бұрын

​@@tomglover98 Playing on ultra is honestly a waste though. And if you turn of RT and just run 1440p high, with DLSS enabled, even without additional frame gen on, you will look at 100+ fps in game like cyberpunk. I just don't see the value in paying $200 more for a Ti that can be said the same of. =/

@walter274

11 ай бұрын

I would suggest a used 3080-12gb. I think they are all LHR cards, so they are unlikely to have been used for mining. They were one of the last 30 series cards launched. It will beat a 4070 if you don't use frame gen. It's definitely going to be a bigger card than a 4070, so if case size is an issue go with a 4070. I bought a 3080-12gb in June. I'm happy with it. Another choice could be a 6800xt. Depending on what types of games you play and if you play at 1080 or 1440 these cards might last you 5 years.

@Jaloora4369

11 ай бұрын

@@walter274 yes, 3080 was on my mind also, but then I need to upgrade my PSU and at 1440p with dlss will for sure last me 5 years at medium to high setting with more than enough FPS. My main screen is a 32" 144Hz and I can't wait to play Howards Legacy without the marshmallow floors 😂

@tomglover98

11 ай бұрын

im torn between a 4080 and a used 3090ti right now, the only thing stopping me from pulling the trigger is the up to 400 watts costings in electricity and the ridiculous 1100 price tag of the 4080 (which has just under half the vram btw) @@walter274

Your videos are the best!

so the 4060 ti 8 gb and 16 gb have 6-15 of fps difference , but why other channel testing says only 1-2 fps difference? can anyone explain it?

When testing in Ratchet & Clank Little Junk Town around the vendor is the hardest area to run. Best place to test performance

As a new RTX 4070 owner myself, its worth mentioning that the RTX 4070's power usage in Rift Apart is substantially lower than its 200W TDP or Nvidia's rated "average gaming power consumption" of around 180-190W. So obviously the game isn't using the GPU fully, despite the fact that it shows 95% GPU usage.

@Magusslettewestberg

11 ай бұрын

copium

@a.s.5262

11 ай бұрын

​@@MagusslettewestbergCorporate bootlicker lmao

Sadly, i dont know where to find the gpu's at this prices

Good video. I bought the 8GB version mainly for AI work but it does seem you get parity between these two cards when settings are reasonable. Even on my 4080 which I did buy hoping to do some RT, I never turn it on because I always end up tanking my performance and even if it doesn't then I seem to end up with weird stutters no matter what settings I use.

If the 4060Ti 16GB was $450, it would make the 4070 look just as stupid, bc that's 30% more money for the same 30% more performance but with less VRAM, and that's not how it works on the midrange. But the 4060Ti 16GB isn't $450, so that makes the 4070 look actually kind of good, even though it isn't.

@syncmonism

11 ай бұрын

I wouldn't go that far to say that it would make the 4070 "look stupid" at 450, but it definitely would make a lot of people ask why the hell the 4070 doesn't also have 16GB. However, I think the 6800 XT already does a better job of making the 4070 look stupid.

You could tweak the graphics settings in Ratchet and Clank: A Rift Apart, and get 4K 60fps on a 4060 TI 16GB.

@JoseGarcia-uj7rm

3 ай бұрын

What’s your setup look like? Also have u tried this on any heavy games like warzone?

Got a 4070 for $470 new in box, too good of a deal not to take.

@lukilsn

11 ай бұрын

wow how

@df8340

11 ай бұрын

Got a coupon from due to a previous issue, it was set to expire so I pulled the trigger instead of letting it go to waste. @@lukilsn

@syncmonism

11 ай бұрын

That's a much better value at that price. I'm guessing it was an open-box item, or maybe he's accounting for a Steam gift card that came with it.

Conclusion: all these cards are overpriced to the performance they have and the 4070 (and for sure 4070ti) should have 16GB.

@syncmonism

11 ай бұрын

Yes, absolutely. The 4070 ti in particular is god awful for 800. It only looks good if you compare it to the new pricing of the 3090 and 3090 ti, but those cards can now be found for somewhat reasonable prices on the used market, and they have DOUBLE the Vram of the 4070 ti, and much higher memory bandwidth too.

i'm stuck with a 1440p monitor, and only willing to pay for a $400 card. i think the 4060ti is an upscaler card at that resolution. so it will be a fun 960p/720p gaming experience for me in the next 5 years

Keep in mind when you are talking about modern games and recommendations for GPUs that the most common cards right now on Steam are along the lines of 25% GTX. If you are even sniffing a possible bottleneck in ram right now you will likely be drowning in it 5+ years from now. I don't know how long everyone keeps their cards, but it seems like its not a 1-2 year turnover cycle for a lot of people anymore. Im running a 1070 still, and Im actually starting to consider grabbing a used RX6600 or something for a small bump for another year or so until I finally break down and get a completely new computer and hope things are better with battlemage and the new RX 7xxx cards yet to be released, and a new generation for AMD and Nvidia.

So, on lower end cards where frame generation could potentially be useful, it's crippled in actual use because of the hardware. Ironic.

the 4050 16GB has a good showing here in the games that use more than 8GB

@Riyozsu

11 ай бұрын

Yea the 4050 is a really fast card for 220$. Let's hope the 4060ti 16gb has faster memory bus and more cores. Maybe even cheaper like 350$. How can nvidia even screw up their launches anyway?

@syncmonism

11 ай бұрын

It's a lower-mid-range card at best, and I'd say that it's well worth 350 USD right now, at least relative to other products in the current market. If they had called it the "4050 ti", people would have been really really impressed with its performance. Even at 400, I'm sure it would be a very popular card, though it wouldn't really interest me very much at 400.

@Aleksey-vd9oc

11 ай бұрын

When you open your own production of cards, then you will come up with names and form the price of the smart guy

@Azureskies01

11 ай бұрын

@@Aleksey-vd9oc Yeah man you are right, I don't know what I was thinking looking back at the last decade showing us what code names (die names) they use for the 50 cards along with the RAM bus width but some random dumb ass in the youtube comments changed my mind. Weird how these things work, it is almost as if you have no fucking clue what you are talking about.

For me that works with AI, I had to get the 4060TI 16Gb for the VRAM, sadly they don`t have many gpus with 16gb.

why not overclock the memory bus and see what happens? i see so little people oc these cards when they would seemingly need it

Oh wow! So when I chose used 3090 over 4070 for the same price to game in 4K I made a good choice! Please also try Diablo 4 if you get a chance. I saw GPU-Z reporting up to 21 Gb VRAM usage while playing it

@makavelismith

11 ай бұрын

ya, the 4070 is really a 4060 that is labelled up, so of course the 3090 would absolutely rinse the piece of crap.

@syncmonism

11 ай бұрын

That's an amazing deal, as long as it's in good working condition. That's an extremely well rounded card. It was obviously not a good value when it was new, even if you could find it for MSRP, but it has a ton of memory bandwith and a ton of Vram. It will age MUCH better than the 4070 ti.

Power usage is the reason Nvidia has priced where they have, pay more for energy on AMD or pay more for the card NVidia, which could save the extra energy for the card over 1-5 yrs. Atm 4070 = £570, 7800XT = £700 (including 20% tax) but can use the extra 100W at £115 / yr over 5 yrs you save £570 (excluding 5% tax) if the 4070 lasts that long for say 25-30% less performance. Tough one as NVidia look to over price but average it out & it becomes competitive overall & reason why they are selling them & still feel both are over priced.

Your price comparisons only makes sense when you already have a system excluding the Gpu, but most people probably buy new entire systems, and if the GPU is the bottleneck the value changes drastically. Would be sweet to have some comparisons from that POV aswell

@sammiller6631

11 ай бұрын

most people do not buy new entire systems

@tomglover98

11 ай бұрын

@@sammiller6631 most people do infact buy full systems, otherwise the mainstream chain stores selling prebuilds wouldnt exist?

@ALEXANDERdk007

8 ай бұрын

@@tomglover98 Well if you buying a pre built, you're more then likely not comparing price to permanence of GPUs

As someone who was eyeing the 3060 Ti a year or so ago while compiling parts for an upgrade, I'm happy with my 4060 Ti 8GB. I reeeeeaaally needed a GPU upgrade from my GTX 970. I look at the 4060 Ti as more of a revision to the 3060 Ti since it was priced the same. Doesn't heat up my room, uses less wattage, has better ray tracing over the 30 series, and actually gets performance very close to a 3070. I basically only got the 4060 Ti 8GB because I really needed to replace my 970 and it will hold me over until the 50 series launches in 2025 because those cards will be absolute monsters. At that point I'll probably sell the 4060 Ti. If you don't need to upgrade now, don't. At least get something with more than 8GB VRAM like the 4070. I can already tell VRAM spill is going to be a problem. $600 is damn steep but 4070 will certainly have more longevity with its 12GB of VRAM. Maybe there will be a price drop? Wouldn't hold my breath but maybe? But I'm personally interested in Nvidia's features like Nvidia Broadcast and ray tracing. DLSS 2 if I ever get a 1440p monitor. DLSS looks a bit blury to me at 1080p but not terrible if I really needed the performance. DLSS 3 could be cool. If someone wasn't interested in those things, I'd probably point them over to AMD if they really want to upgrade because they have more VRAM at a better price point, but the 50XX cards gonna be good in 2025 so hold off if you can.

@sammiller6631

11 ай бұрын

"...but the 50XX cards gonna be good in 2025..." How do you know? Magical wishful thinking?

@OniCr0w

11 ай бұрын

@@sammiller6631 Nvidia currently has the beefiest GPU on the market. The 40 series cards are a stop gap while Nvidia cooks up the 50 series.

@Saltycheese7

11 ай бұрын

@@OniCr0wpeople not tired of buying gpus every year?

@koraykorac5463

11 ай бұрын

I will tell you and you will see, 50 series comes 2025 + Pcie 5.0 + DLLS 5 and FG + low power consumption and more higher price then now. It will release same logic with 40 series. You will desopoint. Monster? your delusional. This is Nvidia and they r starting to use a new tech, i dont thing they r giving up tht idea.

Can you please recheck your Ratchet&Clank results at 1440p Ultra with RT. Techpowerup made a test and they got 4070=62.6fps, 4060Ti=43.9fps, 4060Ti 8GB=38.7fps. Great work by the way! :)

@danielowentech

11 ай бұрын

Testing different areas of the game likely produce different results.

@MrDabadabadu

11 ай бұрын

@@danielowentech Yes, they say there is always bottleneck somewhere in the system that is limiting final FPS.

Just ordered the XFX Merc 310 7900XTX (1st AMD gpu for 18 years) as I’ve given up on Nvidia. I hope it works perfectly. Cheers Ps it was £938

@yellowflash511

11 ай бұрын

Use DDU before and you'll be fine

@FancyaBevMate

11 ай бұрын

@@yellowflash511 yes and thanks I was going to. Cheers

@paranikumarlpk

11 ай бұрын

Ggs. Bought the pluses 7900xtx for 999$ 2 days ago and it's so awesome for 4k . Underclocks well and all temps are below 75c power draws around 250 to 330w

@venataciamoon2789

11 ай бұрын

Hope it goes well for you. I'm thinking of getting the 7900xt for the same reason. Got no enthusiasm to get a gimped Nvidia card at an absurd price.

@promptcriticality6728

11 ай бұрын

Same, Powercolor Red Devil 7900xtx, dont believe the hype about RT and drivers, card is amazing!

In the video the overlay says 4060ti 8B instead of 8GB :p

I bought one of these cards. I'm a 1080p player with an expensive Eizo Coloredge screen (which I will keep for 5 years) and I value energy consumption. Guess what I bought?

Doesn't matter, did you see the HUB 6800XT vs 4060ti video? 😂

@syncmonism

11 ай бұрын

Didn't Daniel also do one of those?

Awesome Video friend. This video is very important because it shows 128 vs 192 bit video card. And you can tell the difference in video frame against a 16 gigs video card. The 12 gig is more powerful. But is it worth it? Maybe, but and older generation is better than current generation. You can buy an 256 or 320 bit video card and have a better performance than both 4060 combine.

@syncmonism

11 ай бұрын

I agree, though it's not only the bus width which makes those other cards a better choice. I think the extra Vram of the 6800 XT, as well as its lower price, and equal standard raster performance, are also crucial in what make it a better value than the 4070. With the 3080, I'm not so sure that it's better than the 4070. It can beat it in some games, but the Vram of the 4070 is probably more valuable than what the (10GB) 3080 offers, but a used 3080 might be a better value if you can get it for cheap enough. The (cancelled) 20GB version of the 3080 would have been amazing (they were going to call it the 3080 ti). A used 3090 is not a bad card, if you can find a reasonable price for one, but they are still very expensive. You can find them for around 700-750 (used) in Canada and the US. It's slightly slower than a 4070 ti in most games right now at 1440p, but it will age a lot better because it has double the Vram, and it also has much better memory bandwidth as well. The 3090 will also do better at 4k than the 4070 ti. A 7900 XT is very similar to the 3090, and can be found for about the same price, new, with lower power consumption, but it is also not as good for ray tracing (though I don't think that's especially important even at this performance tier).

The 4060 Ti 8gb is so bad, that it makes the 16Gb version and the 4070 look like a good deal

@gramostv_official

11 ай бұрын

4060 ti 16gb is a joke when it comes to value

@Skulka

11 ай бұрын

RTX 4070 is not a bad deal at all. It's basically RTX 3080 with 12 GB of VRAM and DLSS3

@gramostv_official

11 ай бұрын

@@Skulka BRO WATCH THE REVIEWS FIRST AND COMPARE IT TO THE 3070 WHICH CAME 2.5 YEARS AGO

@yellowflash511

11 ай бұрын

​@@Skulkait's pathetic go watch reviews

@Skulka

11 ай бұрын

​@@yellowflash511I don't need to watch reviews , I own it

i have a rtx 2070super and I was wondering if a 4070 would be a good upgrade? is it ? thanks

@marcinkarpiuk7797

11 ай бұрын

Yes and no, its good upgrade but this card is already at its limit. Consider 7900xt from AMD - more expensive but will be way more futureproof...

@syncmonism

11 ай бұрын

You could do worse, but the 6800 XT will age better than the 4070, and is already significantly cheaper. The 6800 XT performs about the same in games right now, and it will age better because it has 16GB of Vram. Ray tracing still isn't very practical at this performance tier, and even though the 4070 is better at ray tracing than the 6800 XT, ray tracing requires more Vram, so you can't really expect the 4070 to be a good choice for ray tracing either. The 4070 is definitely not that bad, I just strongly believe that the 6800 XT is a better value at 80-100 dollars less. The 7800 XT, even if it's 10% slower than the 6800 XT (as some rumours suggest), and even if it's 550, would still be a better value than the 4070, in my opinion, because again, I think the 16GB of Vram is going to enable it to age a lot better. However, the 6800 XT would be better if those rumours about the 7800 XT turn out to be true.

You have to give them your email address for the quote. It doesn't just show it on the site.

Almost an hour of tests to watch 👁️👄👁️

Another game that exceeds 12GB of VRAM is The Outer Worlds: Spacer's Choice Edition. Between the RTX 3070 vs. 4060, ti 16GB sometimes the performance was 2x with more VRAM.

Nice review! I was sure that 4060TI 16 GB will be better than 4070, but your video let me change my opinion. Thx

@raininheart9967

8 ай бұрын

better is relative, for ai the 4060ti 16gb is much better, but talking about games 4070 is a huge difference from the 4060ti

in my country 4060 ti 16 gb is 430 usd and 7600 xt is 420 usd. 4060 ti 16 is the better pick any day

It's funny because you can probably get Chinese repairshops to solder on extra vram for less. (not all will work, most famous example being rx480/580 4GB to 8GB where they didn't cut down the memory interface)

@makavelismith

11 ай бұрын

you're also playing roulette with whether the ram will be balanced or not. I don't think I'd try this myself but there would be nothing stopping you from just removing the added ram.

haven't really follow-up since the 4090/4070ti, 4070 seem like the better option if you want to Max but as we know RXGPUs will spoke it for less in raster

@syncmonism

11 ай бұрын

The 4070 will be better for now, but most 16GB cards are going to age better than it. However, the 16GB 4060 ti is just too expensive for the level of performance it gives, and it's also just not able to take advantage of the full 16GB of Vram that it has. Having more than 8 helps it massively, but having more than 12 isn't going to be nearly as useful for it as it would have been for the 4070. Considering that there are previous gen cards with 12GB of Vram going for 330, or even below 300, and considering that the 6800 XT can be found for as low as 500, and considering that Vram costs Nvidia less than 4 USD per gigabyte. I'd say that a 600 dollar card with around the same (or slightly less) standard raster performance as the 6800 XT really should have come with at least 16GB of Vram. It would have also required increasing the bus width from 192 to 256, but that also wouldn't have added that much cost, and would have also increased the memory bandwidth and performance potential even further as well, which would have also helped the ti version a lot as well. The first mainstream 8GB card first came out NINE years ago for 330 USD, which is equivalent to about 400 USD today if you account for inflation.

For me here in Australia, a 4070 is $1100 AUD, and the best 4060ti 16gb being the Asus Rog is $999 AUD, What do I buy I game on 1440p Love your channel been following since day 1 !

@danielowentech

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! If those are the GPUs you are considering, I'd pay 10% more for the 4070.

@MrSiLenTb88

11 ай бұрын

@@danielowentech awesome, thanks for the help matey

I think that in Hogwarts if you use save from Main Quest like first Hogsmeade visit then the enviorment will be the same.

What CPU wouldnt hold a rtx 4070 back in TLOU 1080p High settings? Im so bad at knowing what to look for in a CPU so that it wont bottleneck a GPU at a specific setting

@Hydra_X9K_Music

11 ай бұрын

I'm not too sure about intel but I'm using an AMD Ryzen 7 5800x3D and it performs amazing. With that said, I'm sure you should be good with the standard Ryzen 7 5800x, or if you prefer AM5, the Ryzen 7 7700x should also be good.

@Hydra_X9K_Music

11 ай бұрын

Also those cpu's also leave some room for upgrade if you ever decide to upgrade to 1440p

@syncmonism

11 ай бұрын

Do you also need a new motherboard? If you're getting a new motherboard, then you probably want to go with an AM5 motherboard, because that platform will almost definitely be getting at LEAST two more new generations of CPUs released for it. With an AM5 motherboard, a 7600 or 7600X is all you need (they cost about the same). If you already have an AM4 motherboard, a 5600 will also still be just fine. If for some reason you want to go with Intel, they're also pretty competitive, it's just that their motherboards aren't going to be supported with new CPU releases much longer. There's just one more minor refresh coming soon and then that's the end of it. An Intel 12400F would be totally fine, but a 13400F (or other similar variant) would probably be a better choice just because it would allow you to keep the system longer before needing to upgrade again (and you'll probably need to replace the entire motherboard when you do upgrade from it).

does anyone getting a significant fps decreased with CP 2027 1.63 patch + nvidia latest driver 537 something?

@danielowentech Hey Daniel, I wanted to say that people don't realize how difficult is to create content and edit videos. Stitching together clips with a full time job with voiceover, just want to say good luck man. Wish you the best!

I play Ratchet on my 3090 at 4k ultra, high RT, DLSS quality, locked at 60 FPS. I see over 14gb of VRAM used. It is a beautiful game, but wow.

Built a pc with rtx 4070. Now playing current titles on 4k RT Ultra with DLSS. Raytracing is just another level of beautiful I will never turn it off if the game has it. For this reason i cant go AMD.

I swapped from a 4060Ti to a 4070. The 4070 is a beast. Reasonable size (dual fan version) and low 200W power consumption.

@fabrb26

11 ай бұрын

600$ for a card already hitting the Vram wall the same year of her launch i wont call that a reasonable beast. The only good point is indeed the efficiency. That will be an Ok 350$ card

Great review as always, could have included 6800 XT

@Angel7black

11 ай бұрын

Why? The 6800XT has already been compared to the 4070 and 4060 Ti and it was an obvious big win for the 6800XT vs the 4060 Ti and an even match up between the 4070 and 6800XT cause the 6800XT was slightly cheaper and and had more vram but was worse at everything else from RT, upscaling tech, encoding, workstation, consistent drive support and optimization, power efficiency, size and form factor. Pretty sure he said hed pick the 4070 but he doesnt think theres a right or wrong choice between the 4070, 6800XT, and 6950XT and completely depends on what you want and dont need from your card

@WilFitzz

11 ай бұрын

@@Angel7black if you had a 650w psu you'd need to upgrade with a 6800xt, while you don't with the 4070 thanks to its insane power draw ;). i do respect this is a niche situation but it just means you can save money on a power supply.

@khalednajjar3852

11 ай бұрын

@@WilFitzz That's a lie, I have the RX 6800 XT with a 650w PSU and it works like wonders.

@WilFitzz

11 ай бұрын

@@khalednajjar3852 you are lying. The 6800xt spikes as high at 580w according to techpowerup. No way you aren’t bluescreening with a 650w psu taking roughly 50w to power everything else (also accounting for whatever cpu is in use)

@khalednajjar3852

11 ай бұрын

@@WilFitzz Really bro, are you high ? . The 6800 xt doesn't draw more then 300w, and even the 4090 doesn't draw more then 500w. Where did you get your information from 😂even it techpowerup it says the same.

I finished my all white 4090/7800x3d/64 gig build and I can't wait to play my games.

@syncmonism

11 ай бұрын

:O

@khalednajjar3852

11 ай бұрын

Hope you enjoy it

@MrAnimescrazy

11 ай бұрын

@@khalednajjar3852 oh yes I will.

@vergarajeremy

11 ай бұрын

Im jealous. Have fun!