Folks, don't use Steam hardware survey to buy GPUs.

@l3lue7hunder12

5 күн бұрын

... because it only says what is gamed on, not how good it actually performs. I mean you don't even know the system, display or settings used there.

@X_irtz

5 күн бұрын

Do people actually do that lol?

@spladam3845

5 күн бұрын

@@X_irtz I don't know, I only see the hobby from the enthusiast forums and such, but I think despite desktop sales continuing to contract, we're still getting lots of "new to PC from the consoles" users. For those folks, not familiar with hobby or it's quirks, Steam hardware survey might seem like a good metric for what folks that do know are using. If they watch this video that idea would only be re-enforced.

The 3060 12GB is a great card for under $300.00. I seen them as low as $239.99.

@insertnamehere4419

7 күн бұрын

3060ti is better. Neither is good enough to make use of 12gb.

I have had a 3060 for the past few years. I will buy a more powerful card, mess with it for a bit, and sell it on. The 3060 is a great little card.

I'm very happy with my 3060. My upgrade was from a GTX 970. It runs smoothly, games look, and play great. For a 12gen CPU, 32GB Ram, and a Samsung 230Hz 1080p monitor, it's all I need right now.

@crooklyn673

10 күн бұрын

I realized I got my Girlfriend a RTX 2060 12GB MSI Ventus OC, and that runs pretty well on 1080p.

a 3060 12gig is a very capable card especially working with AI image generation.

I got MSI 3060 12GB with i5 13600k ... Absolutely loving it!

I bought a 3060 TI in November and have loved it so far. No issues with drivers or hiccups in games at all.

I am using a 3060 and I'm glad I got the card. In our country the card is still going new for over 300$ which is just absurd. I got mine during the whole crypto hype which was expensive but I still needed a good enough GPU for that time so I just had to make a decision. The card performs well with my R5 3600 delivering 60fps on native res on newly released ghost of tsushima title.

Depending on games, 3060 can be good enough. It also power efficient and 12 GB of RAM is good. If you play latest AAA titles on ultra it will not make it, but lower to high 1080p and you will be good to go, maybe sometimes with DLSS. It still a solid card, people who think otherwise just have not tried it.

I bought my son the Gainward Ghost 3060 12GB at the start of Covid for £500! Great card but then upgraded him to a Palit 3070 GAMING PRO which blew it out of the water… he’s now rocking a Asus 4070 TUF GAMING OC which was a decent upgrade but not the difference from 3060 to 3070. For £260 ish the 3060 for 1080p is a great deal.

A reliable little 1080p card with no vram issues. You can even run it on 1440p and have some fun. Even 4k is possible but at low framerates around 30fps.

This card should be fairly good with the latest frame generation mod.

Should have either bought a rx7600 in this price range, it slaughters the 3060 and 4060 OR paid the $100 price difference and picked up a 4060ti.

The RTX 3060 12GB still is a pretty good card and pretty much the minimum requirement for a modern FullHD gaming PC if you buy new. I'd check out the RX 6700 XT ( and possibly 6750 XT ) before buying though, because those are faster and actually can provide decent 4k gaming performance for the same price or less.

Probably just the wrong forums. 3060 is fine if the price is fine tbh

For 1080p@60Hz 3060 12G is more than adequate and budget solution even with max graphics settings. If you use DLSS and Frame Generation, of course. I mean it keep close to 60fps(dlss quality, FSR3 FG) in CP2077 path tracing enabled, and up to 100 fps in CitySample demo.

I had to buy the same card Ventus 3060 over my 1070ti as there just was no better option for the price for 1440p. nearly £300 for 3 year old card...

I have a friend that bougght a 3060 because he needed something with low power draw as well as a GPU that would run WoW at 4k well and didn't have a completely gimped memory bus and lane count when it came to running with a ryzen 3600 which is pcie 3.0. He bought it in 2024 because there was pretty much nothing else except the 4070 which is more power than he wanted to draw as well as about twice as expensive for 90% more performance which means it's a bit less cost efficient for the performance. No good options for him...

The MSI Ventus cards are always the worst in terms of cooling and overall build quality.

Before watching the video, my answer to the question would be, "Because you don't hate yourself enough to buy a 4060" 😂

If you have 1080 ti , no reason to get this one as it's more or less the same performance. with less power draw. Get at least a 6800XT/7800XT/7900 GRE or 3080/4070.

He keeps saying 4k gaming. This is NOT a 4k gaming card. That is why he is not testing it in 4k.

@christonchev9762

10 күн бұрын

no its not but its the entry for the RT mode and it can run games ez at 1440p/1080p

Because it will pay off via content you make about it and with it?

@Worgen4ik

27 күн бұрын

Pay off on such a small channel?

@GameslordXY

24 күн бұрын

His Contect might improve. Editing becomes a whole LOT faster. Faster editing while also being at higher quality(picture)might attract viewers to stay. To subscribe, perhaps even become patreons. Also he might be using it for some kind of professional work away from his KZread channel. If so,he would recuperate his cost extremely quickly.

The 3060 12GB (Specifically) is an amazing 1080p-1440p *NATIVE* Medium-Ultra Esports and well optimized AAA card. You can still play anything under the sun demanding or just plain not well optimized with balanced or quality DLSS. I am not a fan of DLSS and prefer native resolution and lower settings before using it, but it does work.

I just upgraded from 3060 to 4070Ti because Gray Zone warfare was not performing well with 3060.

Wouldn't you be better off with an amd card if you want a cheaper card with lot's of vram and a good price/performance? Unless you intend to run nvidia specific pro software or something... but for gaming.... not like either of them is going to be fast enough with ray tracing for that to matter

I'm still using a 1080ti which is just like a 3060. Still a good card for 1080p

Got one of these aswell and I'm impressed absolutely.

I got a 3060 12GB and its a great value card, its even better value for us that got it years ago. 👍 A thing about steam hardware survey is that its optional and doesnt include all steam accounts while some accounts are using the same computers respectively. So its not a representative metric of the pc gaming world.

I have the exact same card and model for the past 25 months. It's more of a 1080p card in 2024. Even then, newer games like avatar, alan wake 2, starfield etc require upscaling to get 60fps at 1080p. I also have really bad frame drops in helldivers 2 to 15-20fps so im worried I'll be needing a faster card if i hope to play newer games.

@christonchev9762

10 күн бұрын

u do not need 60+ fps for SP titles but even a 40 series cards req upscaling for those games u mentioned

So, why did you buy an RTX 3060 in 2024?

i got a 2hand 3080 for the same price as you payed for that nice 3060, just saying there's some great bargain's on the second hand market. thanks great vid mate.

Got mine last year 12gb , way better than 4060

Got a 3060ti for $245 used and is somewhat actually capable of 1440p

@Ludak021

Ай бұрын

it's faster than 1080Ti which was very capable and still is capable 1440p card...

@B_Rye402

10 күн бұрын

Medium settings or maximum settings with DLSS the 3060 Ti is still quite usable. May have to drop textures a bit sometimes due to the 8 GB VRAM

12GB is pretty good for generating high res big tiddy waifus in stable diffusion. But in games (latest AAA mostly) GPU itself just too slow to utilize the VRAM, other than smoothing out frame-times at ultra settings and low fps. BUT You can play latest AAA with DLSS-FG to FSR3 mod and get smoother experience. i've been doing that on my 3070ti.

@FERKILL377

22 күн бұрын

Do you play 4K? Because otherwise there's no reason for DLL/FG on a 3070 Ti, it handles everything at 1440p quite well still

I dunno. Why did you buy a 40 month old weak at launch 1080p card for 280 quid when today I can buy an rx 6750 xt xfx qick from ebuyer for £300? The 6750 xt is 41% faster in Rasterisation (pick yr spelling) also has 12Gb vram and the chops to use it in 1440p AAA higher settings gaming. The 3060 'doesnt'. The 3060 was so poor ncr4ppier put 12Gb on it but only 8gb on the 3060 t.i. which is 28% faster. Everybody saw thru this price hiking ruse on the 3060 sh1t show. Generations ago card vendors used to add more ram to crap gpu's but no longer allowed even if possible. So, what else we got? Some utter b0ll0x about the fan blades being curved and higher static pressure? Like they arent on every s.k.u. graphics card? SERIOUSLY? The difference in same price tier gpu cards re noise and temps is minimal, this is not a new field of physics f.f.s. IF you dont know this create a channel about something else. (mowing lawns?) Oh, you want perhaps to help all those people move from a gtx 1650 to an rtx 3060 for 1440p (most of those '50 cards are in o.e.m. boxes) Well, that is going to require a power supply upgrade and once you move off the O.E.M. crap PSU that a 1650 will run on THEY will be spending £55 ish for a reliable gaming quality psu.. ALL. DAY. LONG. (quick look on part picker) Say, 550w for your sh1t heap 3060 card ( but once you get into 550 Watts GAMING quality unit, prices vary less . The cheapest 550 watt unit I trust today is the be quiet sys power 10 550w at £52..(trust long term open / hi flow case) But the be quiet! System Power 10 650 W bronze for £58.. so suddenly a card that needs 650w PSU doesnt look like a deal breaker. You move on to equate graphics card performance to vram, this is a real noob mistake. A 4 Gb rx 4/570 / 80 (and 1060 3Gb if tweaked settings carefully)) will p1ss all over a 4Gb rx 4/ 560, gtx 1050 ti / 1650 in mmo's. And old AAA games @ 1080p. Basically there are a dozen known popular tech tubers who are absolute experts at this AND YOU SIR ARE NOT ONE OF THEM.

The 3060 has the same amount of shaders as the flagship from 2011 , namely 3584 , and since its memory is half the buswidth , 192 , but twice the speed , it performs about the same as the 1080ti. How can it be a bad card. On the other side , the 1080ti is already 13 years old. But for 1080p gaming , rendering and video editing it is a great low budget choice.

@patrickc8007

9 күн бұрын

1080Ti is from 2016, its 8 years old.

Why buy one instead of 4060 the price difference is 10 euros in my country.

@christonchev9762

10 күн бұрын

cause the 4060 is DS with 8gb

@MicahDaRhuler

10 күн бұрын

@@christonchev9762 the 8GB isn't even that bad it never gets that high anyway

@SangheliosGaming

9 күн бұрын

@@christonchev9762 i know 8GB is not enough for some games, what about 99% of other games, BTW Warzone 3 that have ridiculous memory requirements doesnt stutter at all on 8GB i own RTX4060 and i can discuss on behalf of RTX4060 its a damn solid card for brand new 260 bucks that got all new RTX technologies and top end drivers

Mmm I think just becouse there is 13 and 14 gen Intel is out there doesn't mean you get top brute force prossor power go go Xeon already and nothing is a problem anymore with my 20 core 40 treads I eat everything for breakfast and then some so doe your research and profit ;)

Lol, it is way too expensive.. sold my old Aorus 1080ti for €200, and got myself a Strix 2080ti for €250.. with a decent OC it's about 3080 performance, for less then half the price.. so a 3060 would have been a disastrous buy, absolutely overpaying the lack of performance 😅 Edit : I play at 1080p, BUT i use supersampling (1440p), and with everything maxed out i'm barely under 100fps in any game, all that with 85-90% gpu utilization..

ya can get a 4060 for under 300 so really makes no sence getting a 3060 really

nice video, tbh The 3060 is not bad but I would recommend a GTX 1080ti over it, or even an rx6600 and above! but overall price performance is good, especially for 1080p

@LegionGamingTV

Ай бұрын

The Rtx 3060 is faster than both the 1080 Ti and rx 6600.. And has better RT and has DLSS. Yeah the 1080 Ti was a great Gpu but buying that over the 3060 is a waste of money unless you can find one for $$150 or less. Not to mention it has better power efficiency and has more Vram. You comment actually makes zero sense as a consumer. My rtx 3060 overclocks to 2160mhz and can get almost 18gbps out of the memory, which makes it over 15% faster than a stock 3060.

@pavarafpv

Ай бұрын

@@LegionGamingTV fr? thx. Also, would u recommend a Rtx 2030/2070 for budget builds?

@SaraevKS1985

23 күн бұрын

And even RX 580

@pavarafpv

22 күн бұрын

@@SaraevKS1985 oh yea, that is very good for 1080p. especially if you're on a budget

are your subscribers invited only?

I had 3060ti for 4 years and it was a really good card for full HD.

@workinprogress8978

28 күн бұрын

Correction, still is.

@undefinedxx55

23 күн бұрын

What is "full HD"??

@workinprogress8978

23 күн бұрын

@@undefinedxx55 technically 720p, but at this point most people mean 1080p, which is still true in this case.

@SaraevKS1985

23 күн бұрын

720p is HD Ready not Full HD (1080p). There are also tricky 1080i...

3060 better than 4060 for sureeee.

278 pounds for a 3yo card?! 🤨 No. Not "good value" at all. Are you kidding me? The 3060Ti was closer to a 3070 than previous 60Ti's. But it only comes with 8GB VRAM. Same thing even with the 3070 and 3070Ti - which are perfectly capable cards, but they both have 8GB! 😐 Nvidia done fucked up. Consoles released in 2020 have 16GB (albeit "shared" memory - shared with the CPU - technically APU). 16GB should have been standard by now. We've had 8GB in 2016 (GTX 1070 and RX 480). Nvidia went backwards with the 4060, with 8GB, not forwards. 😠

well the 4060/4070 are crap and anything above that is good but its expencive so if we take the 30 series the 3060(12gb) ain't the best out of the 30 series casue the 3080/90 are outperforming it however they are again more expencive and if u are gonna drop that amount of $$$ better add few more $$$ and buy a 4080

@MicahDaRhuler

10 күн бұрын

4060 is faster than 3060 in majority of games

Because its better than the 4060?

@aboomination897

21 күн бұрын

only when the 4060's vram is maxed out, which happens mostly in video cutting/ai stuff and the newest, most unoptimized titles. if you're on a budget and you wanna cut videos, the 3060 12gb will be a better choice than the 4060, arguably. fps/watt - the 4060 easily wins - and frame generation can make a difference. the 4060 is just not a great deal if you already have a 3060.

@undefinedxx55

15 күн бұрын

@@aboomination897 Agree with everything you said 👍

you could have bought a 6700xt 12gb for that, thats perfect for 2k.

It's a bad buy. 3060Ti or 6700XT would've be way better for just a little more.

Cards like the 6650xt are way better for the money. Yes this has 12gb of vram, but it's memory is so slow. I wouldn't class this as a gaming card.

@LeaveMyGun

Ай бұрын

🤡

@c0wb0yj0hn9

Ай бұрын

I agree

@vicente3k

29 күн бұрын

Facts.

@KissesLoveKawaii

28 күн бұрын

way better? please. difference is +-10% at most (tomshardware GPU hierarchy list). But 3060 has huge benefit of DLSS image quality as well as DLAA and DLDSR for older games and 6650 is stuck with HUGELY inferior FSR2 (AND it will NOT be getting AI version of FSR when AMD will be bothered to get their ass in to gear, coz RX 7000 series are the first ones with AI accelerators, "ISA"). And depending on the game you can even afford to run RT on 3060, like control and light RT in 2077. So it's not as cut and dry as you make it out.

@c0wb0yj0hn9

26 күн бұрын

@@KissesLoveKawaii yes, it is way better because the price of the 6650xt is nearly 20 percent cheaper for the performance, and although the 3060 does have better image quality, and it does have dlss, the 6650xt is still more future proof, the 6650xt, and fsr has been improving pretty good, and without dlss or fsr, the 6650xt still performs better. The question is whether it is worth nearly 20% more for better image quality, and worse performance in most cases.

most people do not accept the reality of today . and live in the past ... 4060ti 8gb vram is the buget king of graphic cards in 2024 . period . ( buget means 1080p )

@Tripplesmoke

29 күн бұрын

budget*.... you mean budget..and that's not even a correct statement.

@undefinedxx55

23 күн бұрын

8gb vram in 2024 is a joke

@SaraevKS1985

23 күн бұрын

Not much games (like LoU) overcome 8 GB VRAM at 1080p, even with high res. textures at ultra settings. Tested it with RTX 4070 Ti (12 GB VRAM).

3060 is barely a 1080p card. Stop spreading b.s.

@Annihilate3275

Ай бұрын

You need to be quiet.

@abdellahelazhari8127

Ай бұрын

@@Annihilate3275 lmao 3060 is a garbage card it's not a 1440p

@Annihilate3275

Ай бұрын

@@abdellahelazhari8127 You mentioned 1080p, not 1440p. Sit down.

@c0wb0yj0hn9

Ай бұрын

@@Annihilate3275 @abdellahelzhari8127 lets calm down a little bit. The 3060 isn't necessarily a trash card, but I do agree that it is not the best option for cheap. Nelly stated that he was looking for a 1080p card specifically, and that was what he was looking for, not a 1440p card. Now personally, I would probably go for the 6650xt instead, since it can outperform the 3060, and is also about 40 dollars cheaper.

@undefinedxx55

23 күн бұрын

I get 160+ frames on most games at 1440p native idk wtf is wrong with your pc bro