Having been in this scene, I can't forget that it was 120 degrees in there and I was working 16 hour days as a 12 year old. That said, it was so much fun and thankfully I have many pictures I took during that time.

@biggestkkfan1506

4 жыл бұрын

Wow! Unforgettable impressions. Thanks for sharing.

@WheelsUpDDD

4 жыл бұрын

@@biggestkkfan1506 I have a Pic of KK and myself outside the rink that day. My mom skated arm in arm with him during rehearsals for this scene. Many moons ago.

@biggestkkfan1506

4 жыл бұрын

@@WheelsUpDDD Awesome! Would like to see that pic 😊

@WheelsUpDDD

4 жыл бұрын

@@biggestkkfan1506 happy to Send it to you. Let me know where

@allandavies1642

4 жыл бұрын

You lucky man !!

It's a gorgeous scene and perhaps one the most eloquent and moving expressions of communal joy ever put on film.

The cinematography in this scene is stunning. The steadicam work is unreal.

@starbreaker6017

4 жыл бұрын

The whole movie

@viktorcsigas6641

3 жыл бұрын

Vilmos Zsigmond 🎥🤘

@apocalypsepow

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah too bad this movie is boring af

@McLarenMercedes

5 ай бұрын

@@apocalypsepow It's the narrative which is lacking. If it had gotten straight to the point of the Johnson County War and how it affected the locals it could have been fantastic. Instead that whole conflict becomes a backdrop to Kris Kristofferson's love for a hooker, old rivalries which are never explained, people with a distant connection to him who just emerge out of the blue and scenes such as these which become a sideshow and distraction deviating from the main story. Disjointed storytelling. Too many tangents. Puzzling character motivations. That ruins the whole film. Real pity. Could have been great.

Magnificient scene. Circles within circles. Something that contiues throughout the movie.

How can someone not like this movie. This movie is a masterpiece.

@chuckfranson7565

2 жыл бұрын

Mostly the Director didn't know when to yell "Cut!"

@MrAnswerification

2 жыл бұрын

It was way over-produced. And had narrative issues. Great photography though.

@adayinthelifeofanorthkorea

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrAnswerification this^

@Robster543210

2 жыл бұрын

The first hour is great if you can't get to sleep. Pop this movie in, and you will be off to sleep in no time.

@solodatemaru

Жыл бұрын

The movie was too long for the painfully slow and thin plot. Honestly the cinematography and soundtrack are its most redeeming qualities.

It's good to hear that despite its notoriety, this film is slowly crawling back to some esteem. Sure the legends would have us believe that half the budget went up Cimino's (and others') nose and the other half went to that transplanted tree and the waiting, waiting, waiting...but, at least in isolation, this scene - a beautiful longueur - is striking. A belle époque roller disco scene at the apex of that late 70s fad - genius - and shot and cut exquisitely - Though an Oscar Winner, and highly respected, Vilmos Zsigmond has fallen from the lips of most who extoll beautiful photography today - but here it all is - who could have the balls today to shoot in such muted, low contrast tones and yet maintain such dimension...a masterwork to stand beside 'Bound For Glory' and 'Days of Heaven'.

@dovidgo

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely! So true! I know nothing of rumors that you refer to as 'legends', but I love this music, and the cinematography, and the masterwork is deep in my heart. And thanks for teaching me to look for Vilmos Zsigmond.

@orpheus9037

Жыл бұрын

I need to see Bound for Glory again. I do recall how stunning it was on first viewing it years ago. It is not often mentioned as one of the great films of the seventies, but it is one of the greats.

Regardless of one's opinion of "Heaven's Gate", the production captures the feeling and evokes authenticity of living in Wyoming in this period

The director's cut of Heaven's Gate is a superb movie and I don't care what anyone else says about it!

@biggestkkfan1506

2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely agree! 😊

I just watched this movie for the first time. I just can't express how much I loved it. The soundtrack is absolutely fantastic! I can't say enough and I hope that it has a very successful resurgence and popularity that it deserves. Bravo!! 💕

The skating fiddler is the movie’s composer, David Mansfield. Guy had balls of steel.

@biggestkkfan1506

5 жыл бұрын

Oh wow, yes, you're right! Didn't know that, so I've just googled it. Thanks for your comment 😊

@sharrigarvin3348

5 жыл бұрын

Brad Hampton. Mansfield did the music for the odd western "Ballad of Little Jo" Most Beautiful music you've never heard it should have won an Oscar ot Grammy

@apocalypsepow

3 жыл бұрын

Skates of steel too lol

@manfredkallmeier5364

3 жыл бұрын

I get Goosbumps Reading This🇺🇸🎻

@youbian

3 жыл бұрын

Wonder if this piece is original or based upon an older piece from that time.

I love this film, particularly this scene. David Mansfield's score is sublime.

@dovidgo

Жыл бұрын

me too! exactly!

What a film. Screw the reputation…

This might be the most joyous thing I’ve seen on film.

Whatever the world has said about Michael Cimino since, this is a wonderfully conceived, shot, and edited sequence - and definitely my favourite from the film - which sure felt overlong, but which remains packed with brilliant cinematic moments between the longeurs!

I have been an extra in a lot of movies but sure wish I was in this scene

Every frame a painting. Literally

@thomasleary2814

10 ай бұрын

Painting’s don’t move. Literally.

@apocalypsepow

10 ай бұрын

@@thomasleary2814 FRAME

@thomasleary2814

10 ай бұрын

@apocalypsepow You're right of course. My comment was more about the film itself. It's pretty to look at, but it just takes forever to move - like a bloated whale.

@apocalypsepow

10 ай бұрын

@@thomasleary2814 I said frame. Stop trying to confuse sht. Did you even have to comment in the first place . Wtf was the point

This is pure cinematic gold

I loved this scene - it really sealed the deal for endearing the audience to the immigrant community. Epic movie.

One of the Best Scenes from the Movie!!! Rollerscate Dance a Masterpeace!! Jeff Bridges as J.B.-Great!!

This dancing scene is great, especially the music, but could have been half as long and conveyed everything it needed to. But this was before the days in which you could put cool extra footage in “Disc 2” or elsewhere, so I presume didn’t want to lose it by not including.

For one of the most infamous movies of all time, this is pretty damn good. Maybe I need to watch the whole thing after all

@Red_____

Жыл бұрын

It is!

Forget about the critics and loud mouths, this movie is great.

@johndeagle4389

4 жыл бұрын

The original reviews were correct. This is not a good film.

@biggestkkfan1506

3 жыл бұрын

it really is!

@janforest2706

3 жыл бұрын

@@biggestkkfan1506 it really is. Thankyou so much for putting it here. x

@manfredkallmeier5364

3 жыл бұрын

This is a Peace American History-Filmed in such a Great Way, that Hollywood looks "Pale" Today...!!!

@eargasm1072

2 жыл бұрын

@@johndeagle4389 sure thing Deagle...a turning point for filmmaking in Hollywood and genuine film criticism and analysis. Where American critics decided to bury a movie as a collective and go along with the "general consensus" and review of every other critic and for the most part, become a gang of sheep who found it much easier to go along with popular tastes and opinion instead of having to absorb, analyze and provide a valid opinion on an ambitious and worthwhile epic because their attention spans and fat asses couldn't deal with the movie being "too long". It seems most Yankees can only ponder, enjoy and think critically for only short periods at a time. It was all about "them", and they projected it onto the movie. I saw S&E laughing and complaining about how superfluous this scene which has plenty of detail and feel evoking the characters and the era it takes place in, yet they were praising the wedding sequence in "Deer Hunter" for being so enveloping and involving, even though it has the same effect and Cimino's construction is similar as well.

I like how this thing was wildly expensive, yet did it contribute to the movie as much as the director probably thought it would.

Look how young Isabelle Huppert was! The GREATEST actress living today.

@davidzof

4 жыл бұрын

She still is young, have you seen the trailer for Frankie? ;-)

@manjacovus5342

3 жыл бұрын

Heartbreakingly beautiful.

@steveparadis2978

Жыл бұрын

Her and Jeff Bridges dancing. So many great things ahead of them.

What a brilliant scene. Love it every time I see it !

LOVE this scene!!!

Would you call this an underrated movie with the most memorable scene from the whole movie?

@michaelverner6609

4 жыл бұрын

It is in the same class with "Once upon the time in the west". Unfortunately the movie shows the USA as it was in the 19 th century (I would mention the murder of 99% of the Indians in order to get their belongings to the correct people, you could call this the only accomplished genozid in history and I write this as a german!) and for this reason it busted and ruined UA in the process. The movie is simply wonderful, remember the dance scene in Harvard, these students waltzing on an idiots version of the Kaiserwalzer von Franz Josef Strauß and compare to this really wonderfull people dancing to their native music. It comes to this: the native dancing people will be murdered by the civilized waltzing people.

@biggestkkfan1506

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelverner6609 I agree, this is a great movie and I'm convinced it failed because of its political message. It showed something of the dark side of US history that many people didn't want to be faced with. It had been talked to death even before it was in the cinemas, so the majority just didn't go to watch it. Though only in the US, it got many good reviews in Europe. But you are wrong about the people in this scene. These are not natives, but European- mostly eastern European- immigrants. The movie shows the mostly depressing reality of their lives.

@hochiminhwasamass-murderer8922

3 жыл бұрын

@@biggestkkfan1506 So instead almost Americans will just depress themselves sick by talking constantly about the plight of African-Americans ( who sometimes did actually have it good).

@hochiminhwasamass-murderer8922

3 жыл бұрын

@@biggestkkfan1506 See my channel and learn how America was not actually wrong to fight Ho Chi Minh.

@manfredkallmeier5364

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely-Heavens Gate would be uncomplete without this Scene-Defenetly!!!

This looks like an increbible film, I have to watch this. The other two truly great films of the 80's that didn;t make money because they were too good were the Mosquito Coast and Live to Tell.

This is just Amazing!!! “wow!.... Very cool...” .. I’m seriously speechless right now!👍🏻❤️ Who couldn’t love this.....(maybe not for everyone, but any true skater can’t deny them respect for me talent)

Been 40 years since I’ve seen this scene amazing 😀

Heartbreakingly brilliant film. Head and shoulders above the dross of success.

I am shocked,whats so wrong with this movie?for me this movie is outstanding,you must have time and the right mood.

@rod5320

4 жыл бұрын

Most of the rest of this WOP-directed disaster is utterly horrible!

@rod5320

4 жыл бұрын

It was harder than flapping your arms (and really flying to the moon)to follow the plot of this flick.

@starbreaker6017

4 жыл бұрын

@@rod5320 Not for a Cineast and movie lover

@rod5320

4 жыл бұрын

@@starbreaker6017 Critics who wrote movie books even said of this bomb "you wind up or not even caring about the central characters or even being able to follow some of the plot twists".

@rod5320

4 жыл бұрын

@@starbreaker6017 Also, Wop Cimino not only directed the film but he wrote the dreadful screenplay with unintelligible dialogue. Cimino idiotically reasoned out the audience could understand it cause he could. Course he could--he wrote it!

I saw this in the theatres before it was pulled. The movie was a mess (I had no idea what it was about, it was so confusing) but this scene was thrilling.

@slowbro173

Жыл бұрын

I just watched it last night. I can see why it didn’t do well in theaters but I really liked it, it felt so authentic. Walken and young Jeff Bridges were standout performances to me.

Another good one!!!

man ever since a star is Born, I've followed him for years

@gedreilly5175

7 жыл бұрын

Michael B Laschower he got me at "well I woke up Sunday mornin' with no way to hold my head that didn't hurt" 41 yrs later things still echo through the canyons like the disappearing dreams of yesterday. one day, probably one day too late, we will recognise the majesty of this man's work.

Truly a great scene!

Beautifully perfect film! The perfect cast. The perfect story. The perfect director. The perfect cinematography. Brilliant! Some critics call this movie "the end of Hollywood." If this masterpiece was the end of Hollywood, then Hollywood needed to end. There is no comparison between this epic work of art and the propaganda Hollywood pukes out today.

Great video

thank you

Ignore my previous comment, I was totally confused. Now I'm going to have to watch the movie again this weekend!

@biggestkkfan1506

7 жыл бұрын

which one??

@biggestkkfan1506

7 жыл бұрын

well... found it :-) and yes, it's TWO uploads lol

superb scene in a superb movie. I can't believe it bombed.

@jimmyromano249

5 жыл бұрын

Everyone hated Michael Cimino, and they wanted to see him bomb. I think the real victim was poor Kris Kristofferson... a truly talented actor who didn't work for years after this film.

@kobain6657

5 жыл бұрын

@@jimmyromano249 CUz it was a terrible movie, i mean jesus the dude wanted to release an original cut at 5 fucking hours long, was he insane?

@rod5320

4 жыл бұрын

@@jimmyromano249 Woppers cannot make movies! That is the domain of intelligent people and Wop Cimino didn't qualify.

@rod5320

4 жыл бұрын

@@kobain6657 No not insane. Just a WOP. They are dumb every last one of them!

@joel8583

4 жыл бұрын

Ha, I wouldn't sit through a five hour movie!

You can cherry pick scenes out of this movie - like this one that are gorgeous and engaging. But taken as a whole, it's just a bit too tedious. Incredible craftsmanship and attention to detail though. If you read the book "Final Cut" (the documentary of which is on KZread as well) about the making of this film, they describe seeing the dailies and early cut scenes as if '...David Lean had decided to make a western.' It just didn't play out as the stunningly successful film they had hoped for.

@apocalypsepow

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. The films drags a lot

@TheMrHavish

Жыл бұрын

It goes to show that while having beautiful locations, pretty cinematography and costumes is nice, you really need a good focused script and engaging characters to really connect with an audience. Heaven's Gate is pretty to look at and features that epic scale of old Hollywood ( see its many scenic locations, hundreds of extras and elaborate costumes) that we don't see as much of anymore in these CGI days, but it's a shame Cimino couldn't write a story & characters that were as engaging as the production aspects.

And a good time was had by all

*Synchs this up to "Xanadu"* ... Perfection.

Heavens Gate is certainly a wonderful movie and yes , some scene's are masterpieces. I have watched this movie a number of times recently trying to understand what I find disturbing. The photography is brilliant , the story has a historical context. The beginning of the film is very so so and there is a disconnect between the very long and tedious graduation scene and the balance of the film. All of a sudden the film advises you it is 20 years later. kris kristofferson is the weak link in the movie. Just terrible. He looks awkward and uncomfortable most of the time. All the other actors and actresses are splendid. This movie is somewhat of an enigma . The bulk of this film is truly incredibly , some parts are just ok and some not so good. It is unusual for a film to be so fragmented . How do you rate this. Impossible. Conclusion . I am more than willing to wade through the not so good to enjoy the really great parts.

The 19th century version of Roller Boogie.

In the very first cut that was publicly shown, this scene is 10 minutes long. And why? Did it move the story forward? Did we understand the personalities better? Did it make for a better story telling? Nope! Its all because of the director's vanity. Sure, let us give him that. The entire movie is well-shot, well-lit, and decently acted. But its also pointlessly excessive, so much, that it actually ruins the entire story telling. It was as if Cimino was more concerned with "Oh lookie here, look at these nice clouds I shot iform the sky". The critics were half-right about Cimino. He let success get into his head, and acted like a spoiled brat. Remember that because of him, movies now that use animals must make a disclaimer that they didnt hurt any during filming. More than that, Cimino robbed other directors of their chance ot make a movie with UA

@biggestkkfan1506

Жыл бұрын

I guess you are right about that...

Pure cinema.

Seeing this I was all "roller skating isn't that old" and had to look it up. Damn, I was so wrong

It's like the Ben-Hur chariot race.. with fiddles!

Was anyone else brought here by the pawn stars episode?

Without a Mayor Quimby / Our town would really stink / We wouldn't have a tire yard / Or a mid size roller rink

Great movie and wish you a great evening Greetings

@friendlyflow

6 жыл бұрын

It sure is. Very realistic i think too.

@johndeagle4389

4 жыл бұрын

This film was very bad.

All time fave. X do you think the powers that be squashed the accolades this movie really should’ve gotten because they didn’t want people talking about the Johnson County war?

Can someone explain to me where all those hundreds of roller skaters went at the end of the scene just before those two other characters started dancing together? They seem to just dissappear into nothing. Unless I missed something I didn't see any exit on the side of the room where they all convened at the end.

@WheelsUpDDD

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, we were told to exit the arena through the front as fasr as possible while the phocuses on Jeff Bridges puking out the back door.

@WheelsUpDDD

4 жыл бұрын

twitter.com/WheelsUpDDD/status/1202302664089825280?s=19

@kds5895

3 жыл бұрын

Darren Dunn how long did it take to film this sequence?

Looked like a fun dance

@BahamaWynters

2 жыл бұрын

And a lot of hard work; take after take. Bold to make a movie like this 40 years ago. Immigration.

This movie lost all but $3.5M of its $44M budget; due to other costs and expectations of profit, it had had to earn at least $140M to satisfy the investors. It basically destroyed the careers of director Cimino, star Kristofferson, and United Artists' status as an independent studio (weakened financially by the film's failure, it was bought out by MGM). It also effectively ended the free-wheeling New Hollywood phase of the movie industry, where promising young "name" directors were given carte blanche to spend and schedule as they willed.

I sure would like to know the name of the song that was being played while they were skating.

@nealpomea2836

10 ай бұрын

Mamou Step, done originally in Louisiana on accordion by Lawrence Walker and the Wandering Aces for the Khoury label in the early 1950a.

Who is the choreographer for Heaven’s Gate?

Why does the music remind me of an episode from that one Nick Jr show called The Backyardigans?

Which scene is better...Heaven's Gate's roller-skating scene or the wedding reception scene from The Deer Hunter?

@christinacascadilla4473

3 жыл бұрын

Both are pointless.

@Ace1King1

2 жыл бұрын

@@christinacascadilla4473 Your comment is pointless.

@christinacascadilla4473

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ace1King1 no, really…look at the difference between “The Godfather” and “The Deer Hunter” wedding scenes to see the contrast of good and bad.

@fiddleandfart

Жыл бұрын

@@christinacascadilla4473 This scene alone is far from pointless! An utterly superbly-executed scene, which joyously brings together certain characters, reveals more of their characters, and the nature of the people around them, and moves the story on gently, while entertaining us hugely for a few wonderful minutes!

@McDiesel27

Ай бұрын

@@christinacascadilla4473 Just because it doesn't contribute to the plot doesn't mean its pointless. Its supposed invoke emotion into the viewer, and the feeling of being there during this time, which I think it does well as long with other drawn out "pointless scenes" in the movie. I can get not liking it though.

What's the name of looks movie.. And what year was it made? Looks good to me. Though I'm not a much of a movie goer. (Hum ..wonder why). Thanks. . I can say Chris looks FANTASIC. As Gorgious as can be. If you don't mind my saying.

@biggestkkfan1506

5 жыл бұрын

Heaven's Gate, made in 1979

@karenbrandwein4759

5 жыл бұрын

@@biggestkkfan1506 well didn't see the movie. Of course. I haven't seen ANY of Kris's movies... But I will say He looks Handsomer than ever. So this was 1979.? Were was this Shot.? On location were?

@biggestkkfan1506

5 жыл бұрын

Principal photography began on April 16, 1979, in Glacier National Park, east of Kalispell, Montana, with the majority of the town scenes filmed in the Two Medicine area, north of the village of East Glacier Park. Shooting also included the town of Wallace, Idaho.

@karenbrandwein4759

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you. ??? Wallace Idaho? May I ask when you completed shooting. The movie looks good . in spite of what they are saying in the comments. Who's the beautiful co star. Sorry to ask so many questions. I'd really have had a good laugh if someone skated into her causing her to fall. Then introducing himself .LOL The Cinamatography looks great. I've never been much of a movie goer. Not that I don't appreciate a good movie.

I want to know about the MUSIC! Are they playing a traditional tune, or something written for the movie, or just jamming? If it IS a traditional tune, does anybody know its name?

@biggestkkfan1506

3 жыл бұрын

David Mansfield is the composer of the music to the movie. He wrote it for the movie. And he played in it, he is the young fiddle player in this scene! The soundtrack album is available on cd. Have just checked it, it seems to be rare right now. But if I remember well, it is on KZread somewhere...

@biggestkkfan1506

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/n6OIu8dmnc6enNI.html

@skydiverclassc2031

3 жыл бұрын

Mamou Two Step. Doug Kershaw recorded it.

God bless America

Where are the helmets pawn stars had? Loll

I read that nearly everything in this movie was oriented towards making the director money. They shot on his land, played music he owned the copyright to, etc - all of which led to the studio paying him huge amounts more when they could just as easily have used other land/music/etc. and saved money. It seems to me that the real meaning of heaven's gate is to be a giant embezzlement operation for the director.

@WheelsUpDDD

4 жыл бұрын

None of the movie was shot on Cimino's land. He shot over a million feet of film, the dailies were flown in by private jet every morning. Those things add up over the course of a summer. It was shot in Glacier Park, city land in Kalispell, as well as Wallace Idaho, and Harvard. The whore-house was purchased by Jeff Bridges after the completion of the film. He still owns and uses it on his land in Montana.

@daviddalton9214

3 жыл бұрын

And your source is?

@Influx27

3 жыл бұрын

@@daviddalton9214 IMDb and Wikipedia

But did they even roller skate during that time period in the “wild west “

@provetamin

3 жыл бұрын

hardly

@manfredkallmeier5364

3 жыл бұрын

A good Question🤔

@joehsmothers

3 жыл бұрын

Roller skating has been around since 1743. They were skating during the time of the Johnson County cattle wars. Especially with the Eastern European immigrants.

@lls3676

3 жыл бұрын

They were invented in 1735.

I didn't know they had polyurethane skate wheels in those days. Wow, were they ahead of their time!

@biggestkkfan1506

Жыл бұрын

they actually used them back then

@angusorvid8840

Жыл бұрын

@@biggestkkfan1506 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Alguien sabe cómo se llama la canción que toca?

@dongatubes

3 жыл бұрын

Mamou two step

@juliagutierrezgerardo2908

3 жыл бұрын

@@dongatubes gracias:3

The original: Lawrence Walker and the Wandering Aces, Mamou Two Step, early 1950s, Khoury record label, Lake Charles, LA (Walker on French accordion). kzread.info/dash/bejne/iJWOmpuAedHVh5M.html

the fiddler kind of looks like Evgeny Kissin.

KRIS BRAZIL LOVES YOU

anyone here from pawn stars

@essentialeccentricstudio2802

4 жыл бұрын

Haha just watched the episode just now.

was roller skates invented yet?

@blagger116

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Roller skates were hugely popular around the time this movie was set (1890s).

Jeff bridges vomits while mounted in roller skates. And people call this a classic?

great scene for a film but the polyurethane skate wheels from 1980 are not from the era enacted , if people did skate like this a more than century ago they would have been on metal skate wheels, and that floor would have been a lot more noisy.

@daviddalton9214

3 жыл бұрын

Way to much information.

@bakarka

Жыл бұрын

The fiddle is also an anachronism, using all the modern ergonomic innovations. Back then they didn't have fine-tuners (the metal screw visible on the tailpiece), or chin rests, or shoulder rests, and wouldn't have had metal strings-- would have been sheep gut. It's like watching someone drive a Yamaha motorcycle onto the set.

GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE

👉💥👈

I thought Jeff bridges was in this, wait, are Kris Kristofferson and Jeff bridges the same person?????

@biggestkkfan1506

4 жыл бұрын

LoL Jeff Bridges was in it too. And Jeff actually resembles Kris. Kurt Russell is another actor who resembles Kris a lot 😉

so funny its a great scene but the have on the wrong skates for the era , the skates should have been all metal wheels not polyurethane from the late 1970s roller disco era.

The whole movie is boring as 100 fucks, but there are scenes in this thing that really are just breathtaking.

@BuffaloBuffalo-uc6zp

2 жыл бұрын

It's madame huppert that makes the move what it is, to be honest. !

Mutiny of Preverts brought me here.

It's SCREECH from Saved By The Bell playing the fiddle !!

...hard to believe in roller rinks in 19th century haha LOL ...

@connorpusey5912

5 жыл бұрын

Sergio Oconitrillo ...Roller skates were very popular back then...

@Ginormousaurus

4 жыл бұрын

Wyoming's first roller skating rink was established in Johnson County in 1885.

This movie was a disaster eh? Only if you consider art to be worthless.

@carterburkhart4336

5 жыл бұрын

dirkbogarde44 This movie was ultimately a disaster due to Cimino’s excess of production spending and perfectionist attitude. (He shot a scene of Kris Kristoffson’s character whipping someone 56 times) This eventually gave the movie bad press and that was probably the cause of the colossal financial flop, that and Cimino taking the film off theaters and editing it for a long period of time before re-releasing it

@DeathGrunt666

5 жыл бұрын

La Serpenta Canta The only problem with this film is it’s failure to market itself as an arthouse film. And the audiences lack of understanding of history. It’s an arthouse film. Not mainstream entertainment. The only reason his previous film The Deer Hunter was popular with mainstream audience was because of the topic at hand, Vietnam. He always was an arthouse director. With a unique and amazing perspective of history and story telling. And endless detail, as is a great painting.

@santaclause4285

3 жыл бұрын

Stay in canada...eh

The fiddler has a unibrow for miles and miles

What the FUCK am I watching? I assume there must be some sort of a _point_ to all this old-west rollerskating, right? RIGHT???

This is one of those movies you watch with the fast forward button handy.

It is the best scene … of a mostly awful, overblown, mess of a movie.

This is a good scene for aspiring film makers to watch as far a what NOT to do. Everything in a movie should either reveal something about the characters or move the plot forward. I believe the director of this movie is dead, but if still alive I would ask him what his goal for this scene was. What does five minutes of watching roller skating do for the audience? What would we lose if this scene was cut? I actually sat across a table from two people who said that they were in the select group of people alive smart enough to realize that “Heaven’s Gate” was a truly great movie. They were idiots. Also, kids...stay away from cocaine.

@Red_____

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like the most limited idea of cinema I've ever heard. Also, festive rituals have been a fundamental part in townsfolk lives since the Middle Ages. You can't make a movie all about the dowtrodden, the underclass and not show their culture, how they live, where they sleep, what do they eat and why are they worthy of living in peace and with happiness, like they do in this moment

@lawrencelorentz8998

Жыл бұрын

You sound like a Damm weirdo ....quit what you think is your " genius " because it is not ...

@fiddleandfart

Жыл бұрын

Your opinion! I, and countless others, would disagree with you - and the film would be lesser for removing this scene. It actually achieves all those things you say it does not. You could say that Marvel and Transformer films are entirely plot-driven - yet manage to be a whole heap of time-wasting, disposable shit! Great film-making can actually be more! You want to take all the slow bits out of, say, "Lawrence of Arabia?"

@christinacascadilla4473

Жыл бұрын

@@Red_____ yeah, show it to me for 20 seconds or have it going on while telling me something important. Look at the wedding scene in “The Godfather.” It’s not just the wedding. We get Michael’s story about the singer (“That’s my family, Kate, not me.”) and the developing plan for the two 20-year olds getting beaten to the point of being crippled. Make things happen.

Everyone talks about The Great American Movie. Everyone says “I wanna make The Great American Movie.” Well, I’m sorry to burst your bubble, folks, but Michael Cimino already did that in 1980.

No wonder this movie was a flop. What the hell was Cimino smoking ?? He'd have you believe that every sod buster in town owned a pair of roller skates

@Glassandcandy

5 жыл бұрын

Rateye Smertz roper slating was actually very popular in the late 19th century and especially in the west as a form of recreation. Roller skates were mass produced and very cheep at the time and roller rinks like the one in the film would rent them out to patrons as they came to the rink. It’s strange to think, but this scene isn’t far fetched at all. Cimino did a lot of research for this film and oddly enough some of the scenes that critics found ridiculous such as this as well as the Roman type siege cannons at the end and Nate’s letter as he is killed were inspired by actual documented history!

@WheelsUpDDD

4 жыл бұрын

It qs supposed to be the first roller rink west of the Mississippi. Based on a real roller rink that existed in the town. Also used as a courthouse

Ah, now I understand why the movie was one of the biggest flops in all of movie history. For one thing, altogether too long.

Truly a horrible film. Unbearable to watch.

@biggestkkfan1506

8 ай бұрын

I liked it. And so do many others... But you need to listen and watch to understand. It's not a simple plot

@Kustaagur

8 ай бұрын

noooooooooooooooooooooooooo

This is similar to the wedding sequence in The Deer Hunter. Cimino is trying to show the importance of community and family. He could have cut 3 minutes out of this scene. Almost every scene in the film is too long. Pretentious!

@johnrees8322

4 жыл бұрын

I completely disagree. It takes nerve to take the time to let a story unfold. David lean regretted shortening the waterhole scene in Lawrence of Arabia, fearful of losing the audience. People want instant gratification now and don't have the attention span for long scenes. Shame on them

@johndeagle4389

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnrees8322 Lean made Lawrence of Arabia, Dr Zhivago, and The Bridge on the River Kwai. Cimino made Heaven's Gate. Crap.

@johndeagle4389

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnrees8322 Lean created suspense, mystery, and filmed a mirage. Cimino's scene was an exercise in boredom.

this scene should have been 3mins max... no wonder movie was a bloated mess

@Ace1King1

2 жыл бұрын

I was sorry to see it end.

@jayroth6110

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ace1King1 shit bag cimico and crew killed tons of animals making this crappy crap movie... will dance on him grave when the day comes

@Ace1King1

2 жыл бұрын

@@jayroth6110 He died over five years ago. What are you waiting for? A personal escort to his grave?

@jayroth6110

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ace1King1 well thats great news!!! do you know where his grave is so i can go piss on it?

I’ve read through a number of comments defending this film from various perspectives... which are all nonsense, Heaven’s Gate is one of the worst things put on celluloid ever. It is so ungodly horrible to watch in its full version you start thinking that Jaws 4 wasn’t really that bad a movie. Should you watch “Heaven’s Gate?” Oh my God, YES, I own a copy because I was fascinated about the bankrupting of United Artists, mainly due to the $90 million they spent on this turd. Cimono, his UA budget manager girlfriend and most of the crew were so high on coke it was described as “winter in Montana.” Which is unfortunate because many of the shots are visually stunning, the backgrounds are breathtaking, and... why is the railroad ticket-master sleeping under a fallen tree? Is this his home? How does he keep his uniform so tidy? Why does he keep saying “citizen” when referring to his fellow Americans? Is this code for “proletariat?” Americans never rode on the outside of rail cars, what’s with all the Russian crap anyway? Expound my first few questions across the next 4 hours, you begin to see some problems with the narrative. The attention to detail is amazing (per Cimino: “Even if you don’t see it, you’ll know it's there”) the overcrowding of any crowd scene, the lack of any humor or pacing... even his girlfriend (in charge of the budget, she kept on top of the situation) lamented nobody came in to control his out-of-control spending... which was sort of in her job description, but oh well. Should you watch “Heaven’s Gate?” If you’re a film buff, yes, absolutely! Will you like it? No, not at all. It’s a pretentious, self-important piece of crap that managed to slap on two overbudget “bookends” (at the beginning and end) which add nothing to the story. But hey, if United Artists is paying for it... why not? After it’s release anybody that had anything to do with it got fired, UA became part of MGM... but Cimono did get to direct “Year of the Dragon,” so that happened. Again, amazing visuals

I really have to question EVERYTHING after watching this nonsense. Was _Deer Hunter_ even any good? I really can't be sure anymore. After watching such a profoundly stupid waste of film like _Heaven's Gate,_ you begin to doubt that Cimino made ANYTHING good. What an insane, ridiculous man.

@SamManzanita

5 жыл бұрын

When the bad reviews on this movie have completely washed your brain, it makes people unable to think for themselves. Go watch Titanic, you will find your happiness.

@jjmanzano9

5 жыл бұрын

It’s a good story but the film is a bloated mess. It should have been a simple story, but Cimino’s ego got in the way.

@911patagonia

3 жыл бұрын

@@rod5320 yeah like the renaissance wasn't much

@ericfan9149

7 ай бұрын

Personally, I found The Deer Hunter rather overblown and absurd. Also, the wedding scene was interminable.

Terrible film.

@thevoid99

4 жыл бұрын

seen "cats"?

@starbreaker6017

4 жыл бұрын

Why

@johndeagle4389

4 жыл бұрын

@@starbreaker6017 The story is weak. It should have been 1 hour and 50 minutes long.