This series with Matt has been great. Awesome work both of you.

I’m hard on a watch, so I have a hard time justifying wearing an upscale watch on most days. Typically I’ll strap on a Victorinox quartz or something similar for everyday wear, then for entertaining or special occasions, a Sub, Patek, or something more fine is brought out. This gives me a greater sense of appreciation for those special times. Love your vids, please keep them coming!

Loved the whole tour guys. Loved seeing my 3x Black GMT Master II over there and the pricing. Really interesting seeing the coffins. I'd heard about them but had no idea what that meant so thanks for that pretty sure I will never see a coffin here in Atlanta with a Steel sports in it. Great job. Be good get home safe.

Hi Austin. My AD gave me a Rolex coffin when I purchased my explorer last year. He did say he's not supposed to do it but gave it to me. Great video content. Cheers from Uk

Keep the videos coming! Love the shopping ones. I had my 16700 Pepsi delivered today (chrono24) and your videos were a pivotal point in my research! Thanks Austin!

@watchsymposium

4 жыл бұрын

That's great Tom - congratulations and enjoy it!

Regarding the "rust" that you saw on one of the Explorer II's - that's just body fluids, grime, and dirt all mixed together from the previous owner. A little soap, water, and soft bristled tooth brush will clean that right up. I bought a GMT Master II from Japan that looked just like that. To me it was actually a selling point! In Japan you know how they like to do crappy polishes on their used Rolexes to make them look good. Well a dirty watch is good in the respect that you know it hasn't been polished, at least not by the current seller. My GMT cleaned up really nice.

Pre ceramic two tone Subs are the way to go!👍🏼. I noticed not many Smurfs in Thailand. Cant wait for Austin’s visit to SF some day. Will be my pleasure to spend the day or two with you. Just need to decide which watch I should wear!🤔

Regarding the Bluesy two tone - I happened across one last year at a price that I could not pass up. The two tone is a little too much for me too, but the dial is just lovely. Mine is from 1989 and the dial actually turns from blue to purple, depending on the lighting. I already had a spare stainless bracelet and a little work on eBay got me a SS Sub crown and bezel ring. You already know how easy it is to swap the bezel, the crown is even easier, if you have the right tool to remove the caseback. So.... now I have an all stainless Sub with blue dial, gold markers/hands, and a matching blue bezel insert with gold numbers. It's a bit of a Frankenstein watch, but really lovely in my eyes. Just a thought....

@admiralcraddock464

3 жыл бұрын

Ive a black two tone, loked a a blue but thought it just a bit to loud

Thanks for the sobering view of those old watches!

I loved the Sub 14060m, looked really clean! At that price it would be a big pass for me though. I guess most of the watches fell into that category, but a great selection for sure! Looks like you guys managed to have a little fun, can you tell I'm jealous?

Great shopping vid.

What are tokyo dealers buying the 126710blnr for these days?

Thanks for the vid I never heard of coffin for Rolex before.

Hi Austin, hey I'm pretty sure stainless steel will not rust.... think you found a genuine fake explorer 2.

@omar10213245

3 жыл бұрын

a genuine fake lol

4:48 the thief in Austin comes out!🤣

You're right that coffins are pretty rare to see. I have one with my Milgauss Z-Blue but that is because the guy I bought it off of has a strong relationship with his local AD and he can basically get anything he wants.

What was the condition of the 1655 like Austin? I collect these if they are all original, like patina etc...box & papers.

@watchsymposium

4 жыл бұрын

Sorry, aside from the price, I don't have any info on that piece.

Austin, that 4 line Sub you liked with the Rolex rehaute had a holes case. Does that makes sense? I'm not sure I'd buy a used Rolex in Bangkok. Could the papers even be fake?

@Portland_Living_Life

4 жыл бұрын

Yup, I picked up on that too and it did not seem right to me either. However.... check out this review of the 14060M from Fratello and you'll see that it does have the rehaute and a holes case! www.fratellowatches.com/fratello-watches-christmas-special-rolex-submariner-14060m-review/

How does one shop accumulate so many rare and interesting watches?

17:22 If that Sub didn't have a date it might be a 5514! But it does, so my guess is that it's a 16800! Credit to Jimmy Split and Turkey Vulture for correctly identifying the watch at 6:10 as an Omega Ranchero. Personally, I really think Omega should have gone with "Rail Hero"! (Hey, it's never too late!)

@7rslender

4 жыл бұрын

The 5514 was only made for Comex. It was based on the no-date Submariner 5513 but included a helium escape valve like the later DRSD 1665.

@watchsymposium

4 жыл бұрын

That's great to know - thanks 7rslender!

@antonchigurh4125

4 жыл бұрын

@@watchsymposium Depth rating of 660ft is incorrect for a 16800: 660ft is depth rating for 1680. Austin, look at the crown guards: they are almost pointed. They do not look correct even if they were over-polished. Bezel also looks too faded for a thin font insert unless artificially bleached. Also - and most importantly - look at the centre pin holding the hand-stack in place and compare with the following 16800 and 1680. The centre pin on the linked ones below are flat/tiny. The one in your video is like a bulbous nipple! www.bobswatches.com/images/zRolex-16800---110901.jpg www.bobswatches.com/images/zRolex-1680-109228-p.jpg

@watchsymposium

4 жыл бұрын

@@antonchigurh4125 Great catches! So, looks to be a 1680 dial...but there are those crown guards. I know early 1675 crown guards looked like that. Wonder what's up with those? As for the pin...I can't see what you're talking about. The pin in the pictures and the video look the same to me. What's your take on the watch: Rare 1680 with pointed crown guards? Franken? Other?

@antonchigurh4125

4 жыл бұрын

@@watchsymposium Re the 'pin'. If you look at what is keeping the hands attached to the dial, you will see this is completely flat on the images I linked to. If you pause and look at the hand stack on your video, the 'pin' (for want of a better word!) is bulbous, almost nipple shaped. This is a huge red flag for me.. As to what the watch is, hard to say from a youtube video but I wouldn't go anywhere near it if it were my money!

A large balance wheel followed by it can’t be accurate? In fact watches with larger balance wheels that are calibrated properly tend to be much much more accurate. hence why observatory watches were slow beats with huge heavy balance wheels.

If you could explain 'fat four' and the 'laser etched' comments in more detail it would be appreciated, I don't understand what it is exactly you are looking at being laser etched and what the previous or current process is.

On the 16750, with a “swiss” only dial. Thats an original Rolex service matt dial. cheers

6:10 Omega Ranchero , big money if it's real.

lol austin, you were pretty good and liquored up there at the end, eh? 😁

Amazing second hand watch discovery in Bangkok.

That fried chicken was damn good, folks.

@watchsymposium

4 жыл бұрын

That it was - I really wish we had eaten more of it!

I have many Rolex coffins, which i receive from various private dealers. They sell for US$15 here in Singapore in the grey market

I love the two-tone bluesy. Buy a blue shirt and make it you.

Hey Austin, the coffins aren’t all that hard to get, my go to guy at my AD always slips me one with all my purchases, originally the coffins had corresponding reference and serial number stickers on them but now they have a slot where the swing tag goes. I don’t know what the coffins sell for now but I know about a year ago I was offered $500 aud! They are great for storing your watches in the safe👌🏻

@watchsymposium

4 жыл бұрын

That's nice you have an AD that slips you them. I've never bought from an AD, but I imagine that here in Japan, things are so by the book, that you'd never be able to see one, much less walk out of the store with it.

@jimmysplit7729

4 жыл бұрын

Austin Daniels yeah it’s getting tougher here lately, I picked up a deepsea last month and they wouldn’t give me the bezel protector! They told me Rolex informs the sales staff to cut the bezel protectors in half, what a load of crap! I simply want my full set... Cheers mate.

@watchsymposium

4 жыл бұрын

Lol, your full set? You never really own a Rolex, you merely look after until Rolex strips all the vintage parts from it during a service.

@jimmysplit7729

4 жыл бұрын

Austin Daniels Lol, ROLEX happy to do their part! Playing god apparently...

@mrp9498

4 жыл бұрын

Jimmy split 77 Shreve & Co. AD let me have a coffin after my 2nd Rolex purchase and earrings for my wife.

I love the Rail Hero. Best Omega ever lol!!

David SW has a new all black GMT with stickers for $13,500. Warranty card dated 2019 so it’s one of the last ones.

@watchsymposium

4 жыл бұрын

That seems like a decent price considering you'll never find one again at an AD.

@mrp9498

4 жыл бұрын

Austin Daniels I’m so tempted. The only thing that stops me is there are a lot of those out in the world even though it’s discontinued. They made it for over 10 years.

When I bought my SD43 last year from my AD here in the UK, the lady brought the watch out in the coffin. After she removed the stickers and took the warranty card, I asked if I could keep the coffin and she said yes. I also got the coffin with my Tudor BB GMT, so best ask your AD.

@watchsymposium

4 жыл бұрын

That was good of her to let you keep it!

Platinum Daytona...oh, my, God. WANT!

On the Rolex Explorer 2 that looks a bit like blood on the bezel at 10:39 - 10:42, you can something that looks like a droplet of blood on the bracelet. I hope their selling it with DNA

@watchsymposium

4 жыл бұрын

Sweet! Buy an Explorer 2, and included - free of charge - is blood from the victim it was taken off of, for your cloning pleasure.

Are the all real them shop are not Rolex Ad ?

@23:25 this is awesome!

The 14060m is a beauty, a shame it’s not a Gordon Ramsey tho with the large F on the 1000ft

Omega Ranchero

The rolex Sports are superb. But the Day Date, champagne dial and on president bracelet is and always will be the king.

Bought a black explorer 2 in the UK got it full stickerd and the coffin. Got photos of all of it.

@watchsymposium

4 жыл бұрын

Nice - 40mm or 42mm?

@jayharriman7844

4 жыл бұрын

Austin Daniels it was a 42mm from an AD

@watchsymposium

4 жыл бұрын

Wear it in good health!

Crunchy tropical cave bat legs are delicious...anyhow they are called...Chickens of the caaaave ...whaaamy 😁

cool 👍🏼

Stay up the two tone bluesy

5.10 Rolex don't even polish in between the lugs on their watches, I surpose you would have to pay extra for such a prevlige.

It’s Thailand, one of the most shady places in the world, HAS TO BE SOMETHING WRONG

That fried chicken looks fantastic

Those shops are all expensive.

Some Rolex ADs in the USA sell new watches to the public in their coffin boxes.

23:13 hahahahahahh

@geezer8294

4 жыл бұрын

Turkey Vulture best part of the video

Was this in Central World? If so which floor?

@watchsymposium

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, 5th floor.

@linushyden7634

4 жыл бұрын

Found it. 5th floor. Definitely overpriced. By 10-25 percent for Rolex

@linushyden7634

4 жыл бұрын

Austin Daniels Thanks, they still have the Explorer II with rust 😉

@watchsymposium

4 жыл бұрын

Lol, and my TT bluesy!? :) I agree with other comments; I think that must be rust, grime, and even blood - just human filth. That could be a great bargaining chip to pretend it's rust though. It looks to be unpolished, so I think that might be a good find for someone. Can you remind me of the price?

@linushyden7634

4 жыл бұрын

Austin Daniels Yes, there was a bluesy I remember! The “rusty” Explorer II was 200 000 THB (around 6500 USD). But I found a clean example in one of the other stores for the same price. What I found weird was that they all seemed to have papers but very few of them boxes. One of the salespersons explained to me that boxes get ruined in this climate. Don’t know if it’s true. I’m actually lusting for the GMT 116710 LN black with green hands. I was in TWC in Tokyo one month before it was discontinued, they were going for like 8,3 million yen back then. Really a pity I didn’t pick one up at the time. So I found two GMT’s in two different stores up there. One for 340 000 THB (2013) and one for 300 000 THB (2010). The one from 2010 was in good condition. Converts to about 9800 USD. Not bad considering the prices on Chrono24. Sadly I don’t have the funds right now.

those coffins are in fact the real deal!

@mrp9498

4 жыл бұрын

Ben Lloyd One of the big fake factories uses those coffins to ship their junk.

Coool

The sub at 14:00 is a fake. The engraved rehaut watches had SEL. This one doesn't.

@watchsymposium

4 жыл бұрын

The five digit no-date Subs never came with solid end links. Only the Sub-dates from about 2000 (P serial) had them.

@horacephistbump4867

4 жыл бұрын

@@watchsymposium I stand corrected!! Thanks

Is it not dangerous wearing a Rolex out in Bangkok?

@watchsymposium

4 жыл бұрын

I didn't feel it was dangerous.

@ronangsr

4 жыл бұрын

@@watchsymposium ok, do you have insurance ? I own a bluesy but I'm always keeping it under the cuff out of sight, you travel around alot and seem to show rolex like it was a casio lol

@watchsymposium

4 жыл бұрын

Under the cuff is always a safer option. But if it's summer, no dice. I didn't have insurance. It really depends on the place...I felt like Amsterdam was more dangerous than Bangkok. I don't think I would have felt comfortable in Amsterdam at night if I didn't have a cuff to keep my watch under. But when in doubt, just throw on something expendable.

@ronangsr

4 жыл бұрын

@@watchsymposium I agree makes sense, taking trip to Amsterdam end of Oct but I decided to leave Rolex at home and wear casio digital :)

@realfacthunt

4 жыл бұрын

Thailand is pretty safe from petty crime particularly if you're a foreigner. I live near Bangkok and we often leave our doors open and go out, I haven't lost anything in 12 years.

Rolex AD in UK airport handed me a coffin when they saw me carrying Rolex watch in my bag

@omar10213245

3 жыл бұрын

how did they see you carrying one in your bag? it was just loose, in your carry-on? You didn't a watch roll or some sort of carrier for it?

@cryptobond8650

3 жыл бұрын

@@omar10213245 We chatted about watches and I picked my 2nd Rolex from my rucksack. It was in a small soft pocket

Rust on a Rolex ? No way !

Finding a real swiss watch in Bangkog is as likely as finding real love in Pattaya.

You have guts if you would buy a rolex outside of an AD in such a country. My feeling says me that there is quite a risk of buying a replica.. even the plastic rolex shipping cases you can buy fake for 25 dollar And man... a “rail hero”?! Its a Omega Ranchero. Know your watch history;) Worth around 2000 Usd

all this watch is a rep /fake 12:09 daytona on the left side chrono stop but subdial hand @9 its not at 12 looks like run it self its common issue witch A7750 movement witch full chrono , check thickness of this watch i can bet $1000 it is 15 mm +\- .5 is much thicker from gen

Do we know how Don feels about Matt watch-cheating with you?

@watchsymposium

4 жыл бұрын

Open horological relationships are the order of the day. I mean, Clyvers stirred Don's GMT porridge...it's a horological Sodom and Gomorrah around here! The only standards of decency are COSC certified ones!

@mrp9498

4 жыл бұрын

Marc Goldberg Mr. Goldberg👍🏼

It wasn’t rust on that Exp II...it was just pure human filth (sweat, Thai humidity, dirt) and lazy assed staff that should have cleaned the damned thing

Or all stolen

I don’t think all of them are original, some of them looks goofy.

@watchsymposium

4 жыл бұрын

I would wager the every single one is real and legit. Which one(s) look off to you? Post some time stamps.

Pretty crazy that the old ratling Rolex Submariners and GMTs oysterbands are so uncomfortable to wear that a leather band or NATO is the only way to enjoy the watch.

STOP TALKING ABOUT WATCH RESALE VALUE! Watches are mean't to be worn by their appeal, history and personal gratification. You guys make me sick, always mentioning watches resale value, you are ruining the true meaning of being a watch enthusiast.