Had both. Sold the Rolex and my only watch is an SBDX017 now. The MM300 has its own history and lineage that goes all the way back to the same time frame when Rolex was working with the sub. Seiko was doing this in Japan as well. Not many other brands can say that. The MM300 is a true legend with its own story with no Rolex influence.

@Ego_Katana

27 күн бұрын

YES. I have the MM300 newest version but blows away sub or deep sea.

I used to own Rolex, Oris, Omega duve watches but over the years have gone back to Seiko, I just love the uniqueness of the cases and design as well as the 'yes, dear its a new watch but its only a Seiko'😂😉

Very helpful as I ponder a MM300. Rolex out of my league. MM300 a stretch but good goal!

Love my new sla021! Diashield, zaratsu, beautiful dial for under $2k for me!

Two amazing watches but I’d choose the Seiko. More interesting look and the lume is on another level.

I own the SBDC033 Sumo and to me the ultimate watch to own would be the Marine Master 300 . Even if money wasn’t an issue I still think I’d buy the Marine Master. Not to say I wouldn’t want both the Rolex submariner and the Marine Master in my collection but I’d definitely purchase the Marine Master first because that watch is to me the ultimate grail watch for me .

@oldschoolebm666

2 жыл бұрын

Yep... I recently got a sumo and has only exasperated my desire for a MM300. Even though I have more expensive watches. There's something so damn cool about the marine master....

@albertoperez3223

Жыл бұрын

I prefer mm300 over rolex

@johnhealey6455

11 ай бұрын

Agree. There is something so appealing and unique to the Seiko design. It would be an easy choice for the Seiko for me.

@miked5789

6 ай бұрын

I have the SBDC003(1g Blumo) & SLA021... Love em both.

great video and thank you for the lume shot. Just bought a Seiko.

Picking up my first SLA today. Its a021.Straight retail. They ordered it,but had a green MM300 and a red Seigaiha MM300 on site,and those are what got my attention. I was merely walking past and saw out the corner of my eye those 2 MM300 amongst those Turtles,Willards and Seiko 5s. And that's why I stopped in.

@WristWatcher

2 ай бұрын

Which one did you pick up?

@LeeePowers

2 ай бұрын

@@WristWatcher SLA021. I wear it daily. Whether I'm working for Ironworkers or Stagehand Union. "Erryday"

Best of rolex vs best of seiko , my 2 favourite brands love em both!

I'll be honest, I keep going back to a Seiko dive watch. Like I compare my 2017 JDM SPDC053 reissue to pretty much everything, and prefer it to 99% of dive watches at any price! Once you get into the 1000$ or so + range with Seiko, it's a different beast from your run-of-the-mill Samurais and Turtles, like even mine has a bit of Zaratsu polishing on it. Completely changed my opinion of the brand. That MM300 is next level, unfortunately I have tiny wrists.

I love my no date 40 mm no date sub . I agree prices will go north . Get my 41mm date tomorrow so looking forward to comparing them . AD got it in 3 weeks for me so I’m a happy guy ..

@ChrisMarshall1978007

3 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome 👏 Rolex submariner prices will continue to climb

@boxingsquare5998

2 жыл бұрын

Me too. Totally love my 40mm no date 40mm sub with no date. Prices will certainly go closer to the North Pole. I had the 41mm and prefer the 40mm. Ended up selling the 41 for a decent profit. The AD got for me in 3 days

Couple of legends right there!

@ChrisMarshall1978007

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely 😎

Lovely sub love my 114060 Seiko lovely watch just picked up the tuna sbbn015 new in box still stickerd 2010 on the card 😍👌

Interesting take. I Would like to see a similar seiko or GS in the same price range as a sub for a more apples to apples comparison.in my opinion seiko passed Rolex and every other brand in terms of precision and accuracy and robustness as soon as they released spring drive. The case finishing is on par with Patek I have zaratsu watches and they are impressive and stunning the camera just can’t translate it, it’s fantastic considering it’s price hell if I was a professional diver and I had to pick something that isn’t quartz and has the best lume on the planet and has a full titanium option I’m going spring drive all day if My life depends on it m. With the games you have to play with Rolex just to get a watch at retail is off putting especially when you have to pay a ridiculous amount on the grey market knowing you can get a overall better watch at Half the price it’s a no brainer in terms of utility. Rolex makes boring tweaks every year (which I understand if it’s not broke…) they just aren’t as innovative anymore they’ve become a status symbol rather than to be the tool it originally was designed to be….enter Tudor lol on paper the only category Rolex beats it is in name recognition it has better lume, accuracy lightweight materials and has a great power reserve or power reserve meter the crown is oversized along with the bezel making it easier to grip underwater also the use of the more secure pin and caller vs screws although it may sacrifice aesthetically it’s form over function but consider it against a GS diver and or a LX which you could by two for the price of the sub that would be interesting

I have a MM300 sbdx, save money for years and from when I have it it does not came of my wrist... imho way more intresting then any Rolex.

2 classics there for sure.

I put a Strapcode Hexad on my MM, wears just as nice as my Sub LV

have you heard of a gruen precision alarm 17j 1970?

Is it worth buying mm300 without marinemaster and unadjusted movement?what’s the daily accuracy of the watch watch?can the watch fit in small size wrist?any issues problems while using the tool watch?

@faithherman9212

2 жыл бұрын

Not recommended. 8L35 is suck. Just buy used. The service cost is expensive. Daily accuracy 10sec per day.

Ones a Ferrari and the others a Nissan GTR. Both look gorgeous and are extremely well engineered so if money was no object then I'd take the Rolex/Ferrari but since money is a factor then my 96 Toyota hilux/citizen aqualand is my pride and joy. We've shared too many experiences to depart each other

Beauty lies in the hand of the beholder. That being said, what makes SEIKO MM300 superior than ROLEX SUBMARINER you will have to analogously think of the two icons in terms a JAPANESE MADE TOYOTA LANDCRUISER vs a HAND ASSEMBLED Australian MERCEDES G WAGON. While the TOYOTA LANDCRUISER is big and beefy it ages really well. The G wagon however, does not. "Wabi-sabi nurtures all that is authentic by acknowledging three simple realities: nothing lasts, nothing is finished, and nothing is perfect." "Wabi' came to connote rustic simplicity, freshness or quietness, and can be applied to both natural and human-made objects as an expression of understated elegance. "

do you have a gruen precision alarm 17j 1970.

@ChrisMarshall1978007

3 жыл бұрын

No experience with those

My wrist is only16mm..but i love the seiko too much! Can the bracelet for the seiko be trim to 16mm to suit my small wrist?

@rywk4225

2 жыл бұрын

yes definitely

@seabiscuit726142

2 жыл бұрын

You meant 16cm.

Value for money, Seiko wins. Lume, Seiko wins. Diving functionality (helium resistance), Seiko wins. Legibility (e.g., AR coating), Seiko wins. Style/Case uniqueness, Seiko wins Case finishing/contouring complexity, Seiko wins Strap changeability (i.e., pin holes), Seiko wins If you want a real tool watch, the smart purchase would be the Seiko...

@faithherman9212

2 жыл бұрын

Casio g shock 50 bucks doing the same. Functionality? Buy smart watches. In the end of the day, people will buy rolex for status symbol and history.

@larsdragl670

2 жыл бұрын

But but but but...it looses on value :-O

@resjon7981

2 жыл бұрын

@@faithherman9212 lol so true.

@Biriadan

2 жыл бұрын

@@faithherman9212 g shock isn't sealed to helium or has a release valve. Decompression during saturation diving will crack or blow the crystal off a g shock. Pushers to start the Chrono can't be used underwater, so your ability to measure your decompression stops is off the table. G shocks are a good watch for things like skateboarding and with risk of abrasion but not for diving.

@ronaldmccalla5149

Ай бұрын

Simply put, and true in my opinion. I own a mm300, and it walks all over the submariner.

Got both. Rolex doesn’t even come close to the marine master

i got my 114060 from my AD just a couple weeks before it was discontinued. it is definitely a keeper. everyone compares their watches against the sub,........because it's the benchmark for all the others

Rolex is overly advertised Seiko is overly engineered, you do that math.

Sorry I choose the seiko myzelf, the Rolex may be good but what is disappointing to me is the everyday model off the rolex

The Rolex oyster steel is softer than the seiko steel. This means that scratches easier and show scratches more. Maybe polishing is easier on the oyster steel but can’t confirm it

@MrPoopooguy

3 жыл бұрын

Its so strange that I hear this all the time, because apperently 904l steel i supposed to be harder, and even the polishing guy at my AD confirmed that

@algorithm007ify

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrPoopooguy 904L steel is just more resistant towards pitting...It is definitely softer than 316L steel.

@bngr_bngr

Жыл бұрын

@@algorithm007ify both stainless steels have the same hardness. The Rolex version has a greater ability to polish and is more corrosion resistant.

Actually, the gateway drug for me was an SKX007...lol.

@jaycamacho8179

Жыл бұрын

Facts lmao now I have a MM300 and a Willard

@seabiscuit726142

Жыл бұрын

@Jay Camacho Now I have a SLA021 and an SKX007J1 win which a dropped an NH36A mov't.

@jaycamacho8179

Жыл бұрын

@@seabiscuit726142 i wish I would have kept the 007J when I had it 😣

I owned both but will buy the Seiko again for wearing

I live in the west side of Puerto Rico I wear Seiko I'm not going to die for a Rolex

@ChrisMarshall1978007

9 ай бұрын

Yeah definitely wouldn’t either! I live in a conservative part of California where it is much safer and wear my rolex most of the time .

Nice and honest comparison. Like both brands BUT Seiko is 100% in-house ALL their stuff instead of Rolex from what I know. Anyway great pieces.

I have a Rolex Sea dweller that I am selling because it does nothing for me. Looking to get the Marinemaster soon

@WristWatcher

2 ай бұрын

Buy a Seiko LX diver. It's most likely what you'll want coming from a seadweller. 100%

Sold my sub years ago...after a while, at least for me, the sub look just gets old and worn out. The MM300 looks different from top to bottom...monobloc case, a clasp that is workable to adjust while under water, it is just more interesting...

@ChrisMarshall1978007

Жыл бұрын

I like both ! But the sub for me has been that classic design that I can’t part with

would you be able to do a video on just any seiko 6139?

@ChrisMarshall1978007

3 жыл бұрын

I do not have a 6139

Are you sure the marine master has a titanium bracelet? It says stainless steel stamped on mine. And I also have a submariner date as well and think the marine master is definitely a good value for what you're getting.

@ChrisMarshall1978007

7 ай бұрын

Clasp is titanium

The clasp is Stainless Steel and is engraved as so.

I don't believe this MM300 has the "hi beat" movement. The SLA025 does though and uses a similar case but slightly thicker

@ChrisMarshall1978007

3 жыл бұрын

It runs the 8l35 and beats at 28,800 and is considered high beat compared to most seiko movements that are beating at 21600

@johnnychiu7985

3 жыл бұрын

Yes 28800 beats/hour. 8 beats/second 8L35 is also hi beat! 8L55 runs 10 beats. and 36000/hour

The Seiko any day.

The Rolex is tiny. I prefer the MM 300.

One lives in a safe or under a cuff, the other one likely to get wet

Kind of difficult to compare them. One is a tool watch and the other is jewelry.

@ChrisMarshall1978007

2 жыл бұрын

They are both jewelry! A seiko tool watch is a 6309 or 6105 all these new watches are made for looks

@henryanderson1990

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

I much prefer the seiko

In every way the Seiko looks better and is built better

Great video thank you- however your failing to line the bezel up so many times really tickled me 😄😄😄

How about weight? Looks like Seiko weights twice as Rolex

I take the marinemaster all day over that rolex ✅️

I think the clasp of seiko is much better. Seiko comes with Superluminova C3, better too. Seiko have his own movement.. rolex no.

@faithherman9212

3 жыл бұрын

Rolex have inhouse movement bro.

@maitrehg

2 жыл бұрын

All wrong.

Bracelet and clasp : Rolex by a mile. All the rest, both are fantastic.

@Biriadan

2 жыл бұрын

The mm300 has the best divers extension on the market other than possibly the pelagos. In real world use over a wetsuit the mm300 is way easier with that massive ratchet adjustment. Even the glidelock subs can't extend far enough to fit on drysuits, but it's no issue for the mm300.

@maitrehg

2 жыл бұрын

@@Biriadan In real life, 99.9% of owners of these watches do not dive. The Rolex clasp is much more elegant and refined, like the rest of the bracelet.

@Biriadan

2 жыл бұрын

@@maitrehg so we're rating watches marketed as tools based off aesthetics not how good they are at what they're made for?

@maitrehg

2 жыл бұрын

@@Biriadan Rolex's Glidelock clasp not only looks way better, aesthetically speaking, but works wonderfully well in everyday life.

@Biriadan

2 жыл бұрын

@@maitrehg doesn't fit over a drysuit. In every day life sure but this is a tool watch, and if you can't use it for it's intended function whats the point?

15mm.....it looks like a hockey puck!

@maitrehg

2 жыл бұрын

It's a mini tower on the wrist. Top heavy. The Rolex wears like a dream.

SPB143 beats them both!

@jeremiahpayne2084

2 жыл бұрын

On looks, yes. But movement is trash compared to these.

8l35A is decorated. 8L35B is not.

@peterlind7790

Жыл бұрын

Actually, it's the other way around.

That MM300 looks soooooo much better than the craplex

I like how the Seiko Marine Master 300 looks except for the crown at 4 o'clock. Not sure why but it just irritates me with the crown at 4 instead of crown at 3. You can call me old fashioned and traditional guy. I mean I don't see any other Swiss watchmakers do their crowns at 4.

@Biriadan

2 жыл бұрын

Never heard of a super compressor?

@silverhawk911

2 жыл бұрын

@@Biriadan wow... That surely is an eye opener! Thanks! Learn something new today.

i have a channel about watches.

Rolex is technically better but I prefer the looks of the Seiko hands down.

@henryanderson1990

2 жыл бұрын

I'm curious how it's better? Because your average person perceives it as better? I think you will find for its intended application the marinemaster is much better tbh.

@paulthompson2147

2 жыл бұрын

@@henryanderson1990 build quality. Accuracy.

@manuel_winde

2 жыл бұрын

@@henryanderson1990 bracelet, clasp, bezel, accuracy, case height, case diameter and dial/hand finishing. For it’s intended purpose (assuming you mean actual diving) then any diver would use a dive computer. If a diver ever wore either of these watches to dive it would likely be to justify the purpose as they’re a watch lover first and diver second. I’ve owned the mm300 (sbdx017) and plan to buy the newer version. I’ve also given up on Rolex as they get on my nerves with their pricing and stupid AD games. But technically it’s still better than the Seiko.

@Biriadan

2 жыл бұрын

@@manuel_winde no one in GUE uses dive computers. Dive computers are great for recreational diving but once you start going past 40m the models start getting less accurate. Past 60 and diving with trimix or multiple gasses and it gets really difficult. A whole bunch of divers still use their watch only, especially GUE divers. And saturation divers have no need for dive computers, for them it's just the convenience of having a watch while you work. The mm300 can perfectly fill the roll of a saturation diver's watch and a Rolex will just blow its crystal off during decompression.

@manuel_winde

2 жыл бұрын

@@Biriadan ah thanks, that’s interesting- I had no idea, as a non diver, how come a 300m rated Rolex would blow its Crystal but the Seiko wouldn’t? I had always assumed any big brand would be able to stand by their depth rating (especially someone like rolex).

lol

Movement rolex (cosc). Rolex win Bracelet rolex win Bezel rolex win. Size diameter for me rolex win History rolex win. Symbol status rolex win. But i still prefer seiko. To stay under the radar. I own sla033j1. 6105 8119. Mm200. Rolex 114060. Thanks. Update:- 25/10/2021 Send my seiko (8l35) services they charges arround usd600. Recomend to service for 3 years. Last time i send my rolex for services after 6 year only usd500. Now seiko is more expensive than rolex. Crazy 8l35.

@algorithm007ify

2 жыл бұрын

Value for money, Seiko wins. Lume, Seiko wins. Diving functionality, Seiko wins. Legibility (e.g., AR coating), Seiko wins. Style/Case uniqueness, Seiko wins Case finishing/complexity, Seiko wins Strap changeability (i.e., pin holes), Seiko wins Smart purchase would be the Seiko...Sorry

@WuBloodKin09

2 жыл бұрын

@@algorithm007ify Facts!

@Lonewolf_rider

2 жыл бұрын

Once every 10 years is enough to service your 8L35 and here in the Netherlands it costs between €300,- and €350,- for a full service. Around €80,- for only gaskets.

@fvlok

Жыл бұрын

Craplex

@HarryFlashmanVC

Жыл бұрын

Where are you sending it? £380 to service in the UK. OK its a Grand Seiko movement but servicing doesn't require Grand Seiko. Also 3 year service interval is to guarantee the gaskets at the dive rating not the movement, they service the movement anyway because of having to renew and retest the gaskets, 5 to 7 years is fine if you're not Saturation Diving, hell, I have an 18 year old SKX that's never been serviced and my son uses it for Scuba Diving and it keeps time within 10 s per day. Seiko movements can take a LOT more abuse than every Swiss movement I've owned, leave a Sub for 8 years without a service and see what happens. Besides, if servicing costs are an issue for you then you should buy the Grand Seiko SBGX335 which has the legendary 9F Quartz movement, aside from 8 year $100 battery changes the service interval is 50 years and you are getting the most advanced and accurate quartz movement ever made which takes atmospheric temperature 528 times a day and makes micro adjustments to the electronics to ensure the crystals are vibrating to the required hz. The crystals are grown by Grand Seiko who then test each for 3 months before selecting the very best for the watch, each watches electronics are then custom made to suit the spexific crystal to ensure optimisation. Hence the watch is accurate to 10 seconds a year.