Test Driving A Rolex Submariner 16613 & A Seiko Marine Master 300m SBDX017 Automatic Dive Watch
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In this episode I am joined by the right honourable GCR (Giancarlo) to talk about two amazing luxury automatic dive watches we were loaned from some very good friends. I test drive the pre-ceramic iconic Rolex Submariner two tone (ref. 166130) and GCR takes the legendary Seiko Marine Master 300m (ref. SBDX017) for a spin. We discuss what we like, dislike, and if we would consider buying these for our own watch collections.
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How lucky is your friend to be given a Rolex Submariner two tone from his wife. Interesting seeing your current version next to an older version.
@theurbangentry
7 жыл бұрын
Indeed, very good point Bob, Thank you, Best regards, TGV
@IronsWHU
7 жыл бұрын
Bob FromBrisbane The newer version has solid gold links thus it's quite substantially more expensive than its pre ceramic counterpart. Would still make for an interesting video though.
@256k_
5 жыл бұрын
i'm pretty sure based on his jokes, his "friend" is in some sort of italian mob family... "i appreciate the use of my legs & i thought i was gonna be in a wheel chair"
"I like watches" understatement of the century
@theurbangentry
7 жыл бұрын
LOL Thank you ;-) Best regards, TGV
@herbalnedtv
6 жыл бұрын
Ya think...? Lol!
They don't call the Marine Master the Japanese Rolex for nothing. Absolute quality watch! Star of the show today.
@theurbangentry
7 жыл бұрын
Haha, I totally get it now! Thank you Anthony, Best regards, TGV
@anthonyandrades4264
7 жыл бұрын
That monocoque case, and the watch assembled all from the front, really something special. The case measures 44mm but the bezel only 42mm so people often report it wears smaller than other 44mm Seiko's. Bit of a grail for me, and will 100% own one at some point.
"Testing, testing, errr. I like watches." Choked on my All-Bran. :)
@theurbangentry
7 жыл бұрын
LOL :D Thank you, Best regards, TGV
@jimalpin
7 жыл бұрын
11th Ocean hahaha i died
There is a saying: you buy a Sub to impress other people. You buy a MarineMaster to impress yourself.
@faizalf119
7 жыл бұрын
Buying watches is all about impressing ourselves. Because most of the time the watch is half hidden in your sleeve. You got those watches because of love or earning something. But yeah, some watches exist to scream "NOTICE ME!"
@jeremycorrao
7 жыл бұрын
Love that saying!!
@maitrehg
7 жыл бұрын
Michael Powell Well said!
@ph69jbl
7 жыл бұрын
Never had a Sub and most probably will never have one. But I do consider myself fortunate to own a mm300 and will be for sure the watch I will never flip
@sadaka201
7 жыл бұрын
and for much less cash. in fact you can buy 4 mm's for a sub. how crazy is that.
Loving your new collaborations with Jon! The chemistry that you lads have is hard to beat! Keep at it TGV! Cheers, Joshua
The MM300 is one of those watches that makes you go "How was my Explorer three times more expensive?!"... The brushed hands with polished edges, hand applied lume, and the hand assembled (allegedly) 8L35... AMAZING watch. I don't love the bracelet so I put mine on a black Isofrane for that modern-retro look. If you have a chance to try it on rubber I think it makes the watch truly shine, and nearly impossible to beat in its price category. Its a little top heavy on NATO but I still do it ;). Great Video!
I could hear them talking about watches all day long👌
@theurbangentry
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir, very kind of you to say. Best regards, TGV
Fantastic episode gentlemen! As always, it's an absolute pleasure having Giancarlo on the show! Beautiful two tone Sub and what a watch that seiko is, real stunner! Best, Matt H.
you two are the perfect duo to talk about watches! do this more often please. And the mm300 seems like a really interesting watch haha
The MM300 is the nuts, honestly.
I really admire your attitude in your videos very comforting and easy to relate to , your points come across very clearly as well top work !
that federico talk watches impression was spot on! :D
And the winner is... (drum roll) Seiko SKX!!! ;D
@theurbangentry
7 жыл бұрын
LOL, indeed!!! ;-) Thank you Luca Best regards, TGV
@Bemjji
7 жыл бұрын
LOL thats funny!! You can take all Chuck Norris Jokes and insert SKX on this channel
@flow2tech
7 жыл бұрын
Luca Simoncini Naaa!
@TheBimmerfan
6 жыл бұрын
And the winner is... Seiko Sumo
Loved learning more about these stunning Divers! Thank you both for sharing your love of timepieces. The energy and enthusiasm you both exude makes me want to go get a diver...NOW! So. Many. Choices.
I always love your videos, TGV! They always give me comfort and happiness. Keep the awesome work!
@theurbangentry
7 жыл бұрын
That inspires me greatly David, thank you so much, Best regards, TGV
Giancarlo makes the channel even better! Keep it up guys!
would love to see a proper video comparing mm300 to the sub. please make that video TGV!!!
Good chemistry between you lads.....appreciate the content, cheers
@theurbangentry
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Shawn, long time no hear! I hope you are well my friend, Best regards, TGV
What a great video and analysis of these beautiful timepieces! For someone who is not savvy on watches, yet enjoys adding to my husband's growing watch collection, very helpful to watch. I'm following! Thank you!
great conversation. thank you 🙏
I have owned a 16613 2 tone Sub for almost 20 years. I was a grail for me back then and I still cherish is as much now. I know it's kind of and overused phrase, but it looks great with jeans or a suit. It's the watch you take on vacation; perfect for the pool or formal dinner. And I never tire of looking at that blue dial. Great job, Gents. Love the chemistry and the way you guys play off each other. Keep up the great work.
Hey GUYS!
Great job TGV! Your videos are always amazing quality!
@theurbangentry
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much :D Very much appreciated my friend. Best regards, TGV
Epic timing - just as seiko Saturday is upon us
@theurbangentry
7 жыл бұрын
;-) Thank you Kuok, Best regards, TGV
nice video TGV as always ;)
Great video. Thank you!
So much fun! I am really interested in that Seiko...I am not really a Seiko guy, but that thing is exceptional
Some heavy hitters on the channel well done.Cheers.
You know its gonna be good when the other explorer brother is present.
@theurbangentry
7 жыл бұрын
LOL Best comment so far! :D Thank you, Best regards, TGV
@faizalf119
7 жыл бұрын
You can say that they are EXPLORING the world of watches :p
In love with your videos Mr TGV. Can there be a video about different kinds of bezels? About material, functionality etc?
@theurbangentry
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much and excellent idea!!!! I will see what I can do. Best regards, TGV
Awesome vid! 👍 😎 love the Mm300!
Wow! TGV! This is an innovative Video!!!! I must confess I never would have thought of doing a watch video in a Police Interrogation Cell!
@theurbangentry
7 жыл бұрын
LOL. Thank you Steve, Best regards, TGV
@drewgambill1432
7 жыл бұрын
That's funny! And the echo....
interesting thx fr sharing :)
Beautiful 2 tone Rolex, love ❤️ it! The Seiko is also an eye catcher!
"Nice Try T" hahaha almost fell of my chair by laughing. Really nice video! :)
@theurbangentry
7 жыл бұрын
LOL ;-) Thank you, Best regards, TGV
Its mbeen a while since I've seen that intro. A throwback video featuring the first intro and your dear friend Sir Ernest would be a nice video idea TGV. Keep up the great work T Regards
Congrats on the explorer! I am very partial to the classic pre 1989 explorers myself. Maybe one day...
@theurbangentry
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Scott, love the 1060 too, I almost bought one myself. Best regards, TGV
The Seiko works so well on him. I can totally see him falling for it lol. Looks very down to business and it doesn't get much more "tool watch" than that. And I'm always saying that more full-body images should be present on r/Watches and other watch forums. So many people ask "is my watch too big" and post an image of just their wrist. But the entire build of the person is how it should be determined. As a fellow Italian (well not all Italian, but I seem to have gotten all the Italian genes lol!) with a similar build, seeing the Seiko on GCR's wrist made me want it too! As far as two-tone Subs, love them! Blue and gold just screams navigation/ocean to me. And it was stunning to see it next to the Seiko as well. The Seiko looks like (and IS) a tool for real divers. And then you have a two-tone Sub that looks very oceanic, but isn't really practical at all. It says something that you two even laughed at it when thinking about it being used as a real diving watch - because in all seriousness, it'd absolutely be a bit ridiculous. Had me cracking up about diving into champagne lol. So while I like them, they're almost all aesthetic. They remind me of water and boats, but don't actually belong in the ocean. I could see someone on a yacht wearing one, relaxing on the deck. Then taking it off, putting the Seiko on, and jumping into the water. If you're into boating, sea-life, sailing, etc. then the two-tone Sub is the way to go. But if you're going to want something tough, rugged, and for actual diving, get the Seiko or a normal Sub. Also, I think you said it perfectly with, "It's tastefully done flashy-ness." That's honestly the best way anyone could describe the two-tone Sub. Completely not in-your-face, but also definitely not subtle either. Just clean, classy, and luxurious. It knows what it is and isn't afraid to let people know about it.
Hey TGV, Great great content! That Marine Master is soooooo beautiful! Cheers!
@theurbangentry
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir :D Best regards, TGV
Just picked up an early 2000s used no date submariner after watching your videos. Hard choice between that and the omega PO but I am happy with the sub.
The ceramic version of that sub is absolutely my grail of grails. I tried one on recently and it is in my opinion, the most gorgeous watch I've ever seen.
As always a good show, Tristano! And my thought on the two-tone Rolex is: to each his own. Keep up the good work, sir!
Great vid as always but some soft furnishings to dampen reverberation and tone down the Daz-white background would make it even better ;)
OMG this is so great you guys freak out over watches just like I freak out also
Love that show!
After much thought I bought the Seiko MM300 partially base on this video. Thanks.
The MM300 adjustable clasp came before the rolexs glidelock. The MM's bezel is lacquer.
@lettuce1305
4 жыл бұрын
this is what many Rolex fanboys don't realise when they accuse the mm300 of being a submariner copy. Granted that the bezel of the sbdx001 is not ceramic, Seiko had the glossy bezel and large round hour markers since 2000-01 way before Rolex had those.
it's such a delight to see you both or other of your friends doing videos with you tgv. brilliant and hilarious! such madness but beautiful to see. hope next vid it'll be your wife talkin bout watches and cuisines. just a suggestion anyways. more power and success to you sir😉✌
I was wondering when the MM300 would pay a visit.. That watch is dying for a TGV Review!! Great Stuff!! BMJ ENGLAND
Never really post comments for youtube but just want to say how much I appreciate your videos. Been looking for a hobby and your videos inspired me to get into watches. Your videos are super informative and is pure class! Keep up the good work!
I remember eating at a posh cafe in Bucharest once and the owner came to us and was very helpful and nice. When he sat at the table next to us I remember seeing his two tone blue ceramic updated Rolex submariner. Maaaan it was gorgeous....absolutely stunning to look at. The new Tudor two tone has a bit of that look for a lot less money
@theurbangentry
7 жыл бұрын
You jammy thing! I adore memories like that. Thank you for sharing that. Going to check out the Tudor now ;-) Best regards, TGV
Have you had any experience with mondaine watches. I've been interested in getting one of their automatics. I love the design of their watches.
Like two boys in a candy store, love the Seiko. So clean. Curious about the rest of the days ventures. Don't wait too long. Nice job gents.
When you guys do the full review of the MM300, please look into one issue that I've been trying to find clarity on: some watch makers have urged caution over what they've found to be a weak or just poorly executed stem and crown. This is very surprising, since a robust and reliable crown/stem configuration are really key to a true diver tool watch. Thanks guys! Excellent content, as always!!!!
when it said "test driving" a diver watch, I was expecting TGV to do a session in the middle of the Pacific. LOL still a good review, though
This Laurel and Hardy watch duo made my day ! Very impressed by the Marine Master. Another winning Seiko.
What a beautiful video! You should do more videos together, your synergy is absolutely mesmerizing.
@theurbangentry
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Georgi, many more planned time permitting. Best regards, TGV
when i saw the MM300 in real live, it blew me away!
Very cool! It's not a ceramic bezel. But it is shiny!! Great video guys!!
Good Federico impersonation, John-Carlos!
I live in central bucks,is their anyway of trying a mm300 on for size???
Your an inspiration TGV :)
@theurbangentry
7 жыл бұрын
Deeply honoured sir. Thank you, Best regards, TGV
Just saying thanks for the good luck the exam yesterday went well now I can enjoy another video ahah
@theurbangentry
7 жыл бұрын
Huzzah!!! Well done George. Thank you, Best regards, TGV
hi tgv if some1 like myself was saving to one day own a submariner which model is the best investment or what would you recommend. thanks love the channel
Seiko just keeps surprising people for what they do, japanese craftmanship has always been amazing
I just bought the Seiko Marine Master watch only because Gian Carlo is wearing it in the video! Gain Carlo is my idol!
Thanks a lot for the amazing videos TGV! Run into a two tone sub in black recently on street, it gives you a splash of gold in a very subtle way. In some light condition, it seems just like a SS sub. It might be a good choice for someone who want some gold but don't want the shout out loud all gold models. Great video! Thanks guys!
The Federico impression in the beginning was hilarious. I miss those videos. Too bad he had to go off and move to Miami! But great video as usual. And that Marinemaster is so beautiful.
@theurbangentry
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir, and yes, very sad he just disappeared like that. Oh well. Best regards, TGV
TGV was almost lost for words starring at the seiko
Rico Suave..!!!!! hahahaha Keep up the good work guys!!
Thanks TGV, another great show! I have mixed feelings about the gold, on the one hand it is visually and I'm sure handling it is nice change for a tool watch and some would argue that it is just showing off. However, lets not forget that gold that has been chilling at the bottom of the ocean since the Spanish inquisition is still doing just fine! So really for a dive watch is there a better material?! Thanks again. Avid watch lover and truly enjoy your down to earth discourse. Jacob
mind if I ask whats the name of the song played in the intro ?
Love these episodes with you and Giancarlo! Lots of interesting discussion and nice to get a second opinion on things. Still miss Federico though. Any collaberations with Federico in the foreseable future? Sir Dog
Anyone know where the intro music is from? I'm sure I've heard it somewhere...
Excellent video my friend! Love the collabs! I have a suggestion I've been wanting to share for a while. What is a good/the best mid-range chrono? It really is a tough one isn't it? How about making a video on that? Best regards, fm
I always had it in my head that I didn't like the two-tone sub, but seeing it on the wrist, it actually looks phenomenal!
@theurbangentry
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Ben, I might have to get the Ceramic version ;-) Best regards, TGV
Wow that was fast!
@theurbangentry
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Best regards, TGV
I happened to owned the exact 2 tones sub you reviewed. Got it way before the ceramic subs are out. As I already owned quite a few tooly dive watches, I wanted to try the 2 tones for a more dressier, abit of flash diver sport watch. Comparing it to the new sub, I like the size and the blue dial. The new 2 tones blue is darker, size wear bigger due to beefer lugs. For that, I am happy to give up the newer movement, ceramic bezel, glide lock features. Great video!
Hi TGV I know you love your seikos have you ever seen the skz211 aka the land shark? I've got the mm300, sumo, skx, baby tuna and lots of others but when I put on the land shark it always puts a smile on my face.
EDIT: Zack Mattews is right saying that the bezel is painted steel (the bezel is not aluminium as previously mentioned) -Charles
@theurbangentry
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Best regards, TGV
@DarkTechnology1
7 жыл бұрын
You are right however the french version of seiko says titanium, www.seiko.fr/sbdx017j-prospex-automatique
@benjaminng4149
7 жыл бұрын
the 'titanium' you are referring to is the text engraved on the clasp. the clasp is made of titanium while the rest of the watch is steel. hope that clarifies!
I really like your channel, thank you for your work. Love from Moscow :)
@theurbangentry
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Alexey, very cool to hear from viewers from Moscow! Best regards, TGV
The two toned sub is gorgeous !!!
Thanks for having John Carlo. I think the two tone Submariner is just a dressier option. I don't find it gaudy. Can't wait for the side by side comparisons.
at last a good urban gentry video.
Awesome👏🏻Lumes.
and FYI not many of the bezels line up on the MM300.....and GCR the Pelagos and mm300 would be an amazing dual.
I was wondering if you could review a nice bullova
What is the music playing in the opening, please??
I love the blue dial sub two tone or all gold white or yellow
That Seiko is stunning, wish it were a smaller size though. Love the content as always.
@theurbangentry
7 жыл бұрын
YESSSS!!! that would be amazing, Thank you Anthony, Best regards, TGV
Giancarlo is a great addition to the great TGV videos. But how do you find two guys in Astoria, Queens, who just don't sound like New Yawkahs from Queens??? How thick is that Seiko? I have a ceramic two-tone Subie cyclops. Some mornings it does look a bit gaudy, but I usually get over it. I used to think I was a collector but now have a hard time taking this one off. It has been a long honeymoon. Seattle Steve
I own the Ceramic two tone and absolutely love it...solid point re: the glide-lock clasp! Put off buying one for years thinking it would be gaudy, but on the wrist it is refined and beautiful!
what watch do you think can beat Hamilton khaki field H10? (in a similiar price of course) thank you
Best Watch Reviews Ever!!!!!
@theurbangentry
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir, deeply flattered. Best regards, TGV
What do yo think about Jack Mason watches?
I have the 14060M two liner and I was able to install a Ginault Ocean rover bracelet which has the glidelock function and I can honestly say its the best combo between old and new. I absolutely love it and would highly recommend it for anyone who likes the size proportions of the pre ceramic subs but love the gridlock feature of the new submariners. Also the Ginault bracelet even fits my GMT ref 16710. The bracelet alone is worth purchasing a Ginault watch IMHO.
Omg that seiko is gorgeous . Love your videos Tgv!
@theurbangentry
7 жыл бұрын
So glad to hear, thank you :D Best regards, TGV
Tastefully done flashy. Good description. Breitling can learn from it. If flashy is your thing (both watches and watch lovers), embrace it with taste!
The two of you should make more videos because is topnotch.