I have the 16610 and visually I think it's more pleasing to look at. The maxi case looks out of proportion and in this case bigger is certainly not better. However I do like the new 116610 bracelet.

Much prefer the look and character of the pre-ceramic, pre-maxi case submariners. Like the more understated and classic look of the older subs

@Gogettor

4 жыл бұрын

Michael Bishop more class.

@muriloninja

3 жыл бұрын

I think I like the original better as well.

@mariosolomon2513

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry to be off topic but does someone know of a trick to get back into an instagram account..? I stupidly forgot the account password. I love any tricks you can offer me.

@yosefsimon4099

2 жыл бұрын

@Mario Solomon Instablaster :)

@mariosolomon2513

2 жыл бұрын

@Yosef Simon thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site thru google and I'm in the hacking process now. I see it takes a while so I will reply here later with my results.

Classic case with new bracelet and clasp would be my perfect Sub🌟⭐️🌟⭐️🌟

@alwong604

4 жыл бұрын

trevor walker I did it mine, you won’t regret it

@uzeyourillusion

3 жыл бұрын

@@alwong604 did you buy the glide lock bracelet from Rolex ?

@tidalchiang

3 жыл бұрын

Are they competible?

So much anxiety, you using that metal tip strap tool.

@bobswatches

4 жыл бұрын

Hope your recovery was speedy!

@imranbecks

4 жыл бұрын

@@bobswatches "Speedy".. I see what you did there.. Lol...

@mdaydj

4 жыл бұрын

its only a watch

@pintthereof4598

3 жыл бұрын

mdaydj it’s only £6,000

@willliamtaaffe8099

3 жыл бұрын

It's a subby. They're masterpiece watches and robust as fuck. No issues handling it with care

Always love your content. Which camera set up are you using? Such great lighting and very sharp clarity.

I own both and although it's almost becoming popular to bash on the super case , I've come to really appreciate the robustness of it . And the braclet on the 116610LN is without a doubt the best in the business. Just my opinion, but after starting with my first Submariner a 5513 , in 1968 and buying a few different models as they came out , I've come to love my new one . And yes , I've kept them all in my collection.

I’ve worn mine daily since 1995 so I’m a bit partial to the older model.

@oekon

4 жыл бұрын

How is it now? No problems using it daily for so long? I'm thinking about buying a 1996 model because that's my date of birth.

@nelsondav100

4 жыл бұрын

Raffy it just keeps running and running. It’s been into Rolex once for cleaning and that’s it. Beautiful watch.

@willliamtaaffe8099

3 жыл бұрын

Mine is 1994 model. I wear it regularly. It looks like a new watch. Use toothpaste on the watch face and rub it in before you shower with it. The watch face comes out sparkling. Sensational watch

@mossakassabi9870

2 жыл бұрын

عندي.ساعات.قديمة.لبيع

Great comparison, well done guys, best one I have seen yet. I will be getting one of these watches someday. Really still liking the 16610 still.

@bobswatches

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! The 16610 is still a solid piece.

The supercase was the reason I passed on picking up a 116610 Submariner in 2010 as a retirement present to myself. There were no 16610 new old stock to be found at the time. Unfortunately the 126610/124060 doesn't look as though it did enough to return the gorgeous form to the Submariner. I'm going to an AD to see if there one in person to see (Japan has a couple places).

Wow, the the older model really has a much more elegant case and look.

I like the proportions of the 16610 better but the bracelet and bezel are way better on the new one. I would be very happy with either

5 digit all the way ! I own both an the 5 digit are way more comfortable! Plus the 5 digit have more of a tool look 👀 as apposed to the 6 digit that a bit more flashy an dressy

Thank you for this great video! Good Job!!

@bobswatches

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!

I actually found a brand new original 97200 (glidelock) bracelet which fits the 16610 as if it was the original bracelet. 16610 no holes V2009 and 97200 bracelet...I have created my dream watch. Not only better proportioned but less glittery and shiny as with the ceramic bezel. Also the more aggressive, sharp teeth of the bezel on the newer 116610 would always "catch" clothes and whatever it comes in contact with and move around quite often. This doesn't happen nearly as much on the less aggressive classic 16610 bezel. I did wear the 116610 for about 1 year and "IMO" prefer the 16610.

I also prefer the older 16610. I still have mine - L series, 1st year it came out - the tritium lume no longer shines ( but doesn't matter). The current Sub case with the fat lugs is ugly. It adds unnecessary bulk and weight to an already heavy watch.

16610 is in a CLASS of its own!🤑

I love my 16610 🔥 Feels perfect with the right combination of weight and thickness under the cuff.

9:09. Yeah, I had such a big dinner that my wrist is now fatter and I need to expand my watch bracelet lol. It’s more like if it’s a hot day (or a really cold day) and you need to fine tune your clasp.

What’s the better daily wearer for a 7.5 inch wrist? Looking to pick one of these up just can’t pick. It’d be great to get the 5 digit on a new bracelet.

vote for 5 digits. always vinatge which classic. Just like a Classic sport car,

Love the old one as it has way better proportions IMO, I have a new one with the maxi case and prefer wearing my 39 mm Stienhart homage.

I have a 16610 with engraved rehaut. It is way better that the new one. But that’s ONLY my opinion

I like the older one better.

I have a 16600 and 116660 and my favourite improvement is the bracelet and glidelock

Got a 2009 16110 and it cost the same as 2010 11610. I just think that the 16110 has much better style and in my humble opinion the best looking watch ever made

I enjoy my new style Sub, but I think the difference between the two make getting a “Kermit” easier to justify. Thanks for the video!

A great vid. So clear and concise. My preference is the Ceramic version. I like the larger watch feel on my wrist. Thank you

great video , im going to get the sub2020 im hesitating between the date or no date

I have both, and I like them both in their own ways. I love the glidelock on de 116610

Got mine in 2003. Almost as daily driver, despite owning about 20 watches, most of them more expensive than the Sub.

The 16610 with a solid bracelet, and a double safety clasp. It is a divers watch, so the bracelet is a big thing for me. And a ceramic bezel would be a bonus, but not a dealbreaker.

Just a couple of things, the lugs on the 11 aren't longer just fatter. Also the brushing on the lugs went to straight instead of circular. The watch wears bigger because the rehaut ring is steeper, therefore more open and the dial is larger in diameter. I can't stand the way they're going bigger and bigger. I hoped that androgynous dinner plates were going out. I would love the 16610 with satin ceramic.

Just looking at the images. The earlier model looks much more classy, dare I say better quality.

i really like the old classic case size although the new bracelet and clasp is superior - Wearing the old one on a black rubber and the newest version with steel bracelet

Hour hand on ceramic model is also “beefier’’.

I own a 114060 submariner..like the new style lugs and the glidelick bracelet is heads above the old clasp..i prefer the clean look of the no date..116610LN is still a beautiful watcj

@bobswatches

4 жыл бұрын

The updated bracelet really is a wonder isn't it? Thanks for checking out our video!

@Thevoiceofreason84

4 жыл бұрын

John Tiscione me too 👍

The new model is obviously a more "modern" watch with improvements over the older model. However, it is just too bulky/beefy. Unless you are 6'4" and 250 lb. it will just look too heavy (which it is) on a "normal" wrist. The case is uglier, square. The 16610 represents the "classic" submariner better. More discrete, just looks nicer.

@ngtilui

2 жыл бұрын

Agree

@Agent-vj3ns

2 жыл бұрын

126610 shits all over both

I like the 16610

Why in the new one have blue light tint on the cyclops lens??

The 16610 have proven it self through time, now let’s see how the 116610 age with time.

@bobswatches

4 жыл бұрын

Only time will tell!

Love the maxi dial.

when is the last produce of 16610 before the change? is it 2009?

Older is nicer. New one is to big and tacky.

The glidelock is portrayed firstly as extension for divesuits... I honestly must say I use it mainly for doing adjustment for my wristsize. I use it often. I have a lot more watches and I dont think it can be compared to a “microadjustment”. The glidelock I use very often. Microadjustments on other watches I never ever use.

I like chunky watches but feel that Submariner should remains at 40mm. That's much classier.

Like the newer version much better, just wish i could find one.

Does de ref 116610LN came with green lumen in certain years?..

I feel that the 16610 feels a bit more discreet and subtle than the 116610. Will be my next purchase for sure!

@bobswatches

2 жыл бұрын

I agree @p.bathy... It definitley does not stand out as much as the 116610, I think it serves as an even better daily watch! Would you wear the 16610 daily or just on occasion?

@thelazyrouleur

2 жыл бұрын

@@bobswatches I have a few watches in my rotation but if I do purchase a 16610, it’ll certainly be worn as often as my Breitling Superocean 42!

Thank you for this video. I love the micro adjustments and the ceramic dial. So it’s the 116610 for me!

Vintage, all day every day.

@bobswatches

4 жыл бұрын

Ages like a fine wine. Thanks for checking out our video!

yah yah Great video!.....I go for vintage all the way

*I got mad at Rolex for coming out with a ceramic insert without a retrofit after decades of putting a delicate wafer thin anodized aluminum ring on a SPORTS WATCH and doing lots of service work just from replacing their delicate aluminum ring. Ridiculous. So I took my 16610 and put a ceramic insert in it made for it's bezel. It's the best of all worlds. The delicate aluminum insert is put away for safe keeping so that no one can tap it too hard with, oh let's see, their finger nail and dent it/scratch it.*

The older one looks better.

Bit zoom in would have been good! Good Video though!

@bobswatches

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I've watched lots of comparison videos and not one of them mentions that the six-digit (116610) has "ROLEX ROLEX ROLEX" engraved along the interior perimeter. I love that little detail which I think makes it look more luxurious.

@anima89x

Жыл бұрын

If you like that it’s worth that last 3 series of the 16610, released in its final 2-3 years, also had the engraved rehaut you mentioned.

The older one because it more subtle.

Maybe this topic was raised before but I just noticed that some sub have the "300m" text on the dial written with a space between the "300" and the "m" and others don't have that space. Is this normal? I wanted to raise this topic because someone may think it is a fake watch (the one without space)

I've owned both of these watches, and currently have the sub c date and no date in my collection. I always preferred the 116610 over the 16610, mainly because of the superior bracelet and clasp. I always felt the stamped steel clasp on the 16610 looked flimsy and felt cheaper than it should on such a prestigious watch. Additionally, the maxi dial is more modern and the thicker lugs gives the watch a more imposing look. Not to mention the ceramic on the bezel is very durable, ideal for someone who wears these watches daily. 16610 aluminum bezel was prone to fade

@PK-mx7nf

4 жыл бұрын

The old bracelets are terrible. It actually feels so cheap on the wrist, compared to the Sub C. Also glidelock is awesome obviously.

@mathew3293

4 жыл бұрын

@@PK-mx7nf 100% agreed. Glidelock on sub c is probably the best clasp system on any sports watch on the market.

The 116610 is actually a bigger watch. It measures 40.3mm whereas the 16610 measures 39.6mm - it's almost 1mm bigger. Also as you mention, the case is bigger and blockier - so it is a bigger watch

Zoom in! The background is......neat, but I’m here for the visuals of the watch. Not the tools on the table.

I really have a problem with the ceramic bezel, it can break if I pop it off to remove a grain of sand furthermore the plastic ring underneath should be changed everytime…

Older version looks much better. Classier look. The maxi case looks clunky.

The ceramic bezel just works so much more for me. Plus the 116610LN looks so much more beautifully proportioned.

@bobswatches

4 жыл бұрын

The ceramic bezel insert really turns the watch into a luxury piece.

@Longshore79

4 жыл бұрын

Bob's Watches exactly. You can dress up the ceramic Version.

The indices on the older model also look smaller in comparison.

I have a 16610 . Is it possible to change the bezel of a 116610 and place it on the 16610? Thank you!

@ujjwalkarki5680

2 ай бұрын

no

Love the new one! Saving up my money for it.

@bobswatches

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you made a decision on the one you want! Thanks for stopping by our video comparison!

Does the new sub weigh more than previous model?

You could have synchronized the two watches “Bob”...

@bobswatches

4 жыл бұрын

Should've. Would've. Could've. "Diablo"...

I wish Rolex made the new 126610 the happy median of theses models but they went bigger :( the new submariner just doesn't wear as nice as the 16610 but imagine if they re issue the 16610 with the new movement and complete solid center links and on the fly adjustable clasp?

For me especially the shiny look of the bezel is simply to ! much and to bold. It feels for me pretentious, hey, look at me, here I am. The maxi dial looks for me unbalanced in relation to the dial. For my very small wrist the especially the length of the lugs fit to big. Even the clasp feels for me much more small pretty and balanced to the bracelet. The new one has much improvement but the balance of all is definitely not mine. Motto: "Make it fat again", for me the new one reminds me close to brass knuckles in comparison to the older one. I own a Hulk and a 16610 from 2010. I prefer as a daily the 16610.

Great selection of watches ridiculous prices

I've had both but definitely prefer the Super C case. My first Sub was a 2007 and I upgraded to the new Sub with my 2007 trade. The biggest advantages is the glide lock for me. I don't baby my watches nor do I beat the shit out of them. So the ceramic bezel per say wasn't the selling point for me. The size of the newer Sub for me is much better and so is the weight. I also like that the newer Sub bracelet has solid center links. The old Sub worked and is a phenomenal watch but it had weak points for me. My 2007 Sub just felt too light like it has no substance for the price l paid. The new Super C Sub has no weak points and in my opinion the perfect dive watch.

Enjoy the video showing both of the watches but your bias for the new model is very clear and detracts from an objectionable viewpoint and true comparison.

I'd take the 116610 in every way except the width of the lugs!

@Baztation

3 жыл бұрын

me2

Now that the 2020 Sub is out. “Fixing” the fat maxi case, I’m having a hard time deciding between the classic 5 digit and latest.

I'm thinking I would go post 2010 and get the upgraded solid bracelet with adjustable clasp (big improvements) and accept the ceramic bezel... Also my understanding is that due to the additional material on the supercase, affords potential additional polishings beyond a 5 digit model.???

I love every update EXCEPT the "maxi-case." It doesn't fit the watchface. The bracelet looks like something added on as there is no flow from the case to the bracelet.

The ceramic bezel insert is just too shiny. It looks horrible in daylight. It doesn’t look black. Much prefer the classic Sub with perfect proportions and Aluminium insert that always looks black.

How is the 6 digit sub able to have a bigger bezel but still stay the same size? Are they actually the same size? Doesn't seem like it

I got a near unused 16610 from 2009, it's a marvel of a watch. The ceramic Sub is not as elegant and I much prefer the older model.

The bracelet on the newer model is MUCH better.

I dont like the lugs on the new one and.. by the way....You would want your head examined if you decide to bring it saltwater diving when cheap digital dive watchs are better.

3.45 "both have the time and date"....

Probably the only investment i made that's made money! paid £4750 back in 2014 for mine.

Old is gold....end of story 😊

The bracelet on the 116610 looks too narrow for the case.

Nice comparison. Still tied between the two. Probably will prefer the aluminum bezel for its more toolish design.

@bobswatches

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

😅 I definitely prefer the 116610 newer version. It has more pop more shine more verve.

Hi, I own the 116610LN and can confirm the bracelet and clasp is excellent and I love this version, I have heard that there is anti reflective coating on the cyclops with the 116610 what's your thoughts.

@bobswatches

4 жыл бұрын

The 116610 is indeed a very refined watch and can be especially seen in the details of the bracelet. There is anti-reflective coating on the cyclops which can be seen in the right light a blueish tint to the window. I'm personally a fan of it especially coming from Rolex where anti-reflective coatings aren't seen on their crystals, simply because they believe there isn't one that meets their standards. Thanks for checking out our video!

@eileens6713

4 жыл бұрын

@@bobswatches That isn't true. The reason Rolex does not use AR on crystals is because they don't want to. It's as simple as that, they like how reflective the crystal is, it makes the watch look flashier, they like that. The reflective quality shows off that its a Rolex. If it was the case that the AR tech wasn't there... they would have made it by now, or bought out a company that made it... but an interview with their board and design panel, revealed that the lack of AR is purposeful.

Is this sacrilege? I want the 116610 on a leather strap

I have a smaller wrist and prefer drilled lugs, so plan on picking up a 16610. I will say, though, the ceramic, updated bracket/clasp, and updated lume is appealing.

@bobswatches

4 жыл бұрын

Solid choice. Hopefully the video helps out with your decision!

@ericleavitt9281

4 жыл бұрын

Which did you end up going for?

With so many homages out there, the new super case with the fat lugs floats my boat.

How many Submariner owners does it take to change a lightbulb? Four. One to change it, and three to lament how much better the previous design was.

Got the old sub 16610 from my dad... very nice. But i like ceramic bezel more

Does anybody have 16610 for sale?

The old is better but for the jingly jangly bracelet

Pre-ceramic all the way, the ceramic isn’t a true sub to me, it’s bling.

feels good

Dude keep that scratchy strap tool away from the watches! The older one had a better size for sure.9:05 "had a big dinner and need more room". Dude it's a watch band, not a pants belt.

I like the newer model more. The ceramic bezel, the bigger indices, the better crown, the better bracelet/clasp, the bluish lume > greenish lume, and I like the maxi-case as it seperates it for other regular cased watches... kind of squaring it off a bit.