"Why I sold my Rolex Submariner" (whilst wearing a Rolex Submariner)

@allanhlewis

2 жыл бұрын

I thought that too lol

@theannouncer5538

2 жыл бұрын

“I sold my spare submariner” probably sounded too flexy😂

@ronbond6259

Жыл бұрын

Because it was not a 5513...

@chrishuberman81

Жыл бұрын

It‘s a tudor

@ruben619448

Жыл бұрын

@@chrishuberman81 no, he’s wearing the Kermit. The green submariner.

Not to forget that the Kermit is already a submariner. "You didn't need a submariner" is that you didn't need two...

@alanalan4935

2 жыл бұрын

exactly, not sure if he realize that lol

@ajlevin44

2 жыл бұрын

Whoa whoa whoa...the Kermit has the date cyclops, the other one has no date- totally different watches! (Jk, I agree the lack of self-awareness is puzzling... he was literally wearing the Kermit throughout the entire video lol)

@riothero313

2 жыл бұрын

HULK SMASH

@WatchUnwind

2 жыл бұрын

I love the no date but if you have two I think the Kermit has to be the one to stay

I have owned many watches, high dollar and low dollar, I have two Rolex currently, nothing and I mean nothing compares to my Black Bay 58 in terms of fit, finish, style and every day design and comfort. I am very happy it was highlighted in this video. The 58 is the best watch I have ever had and I have had many watches in 40 years of collecting.

@DAfycariad

14 күн бұрын

I could not agree more - I m building my 3 watch collection and currently have a submariner and a BB58 black dial. I cannot stress enough how beautiful the BB58 is. It has practicality similar to the submariner, but with out all the flashy marketing of the Rolex brand. Funny enough I have never gotten anyone to say 'wow that's a Tudor', but I have certainly had people ask 'what kind of watch is that...' then followed by 'that is really nice' - which I think speaks volumes to the beauty of this time piece that does not require the common person to be hyped by the brand

There are two watches I will never sell; my Sub and my Speedmaster Pro. There simply are no substitutes for these two. That Tudor is really nice, I'll admit. And I'm a Tudor guy too....love my Tiger Chrono, which used to be affordable. Nothing is affordable anymore unfortunately.

I definitely like the hunt more than the watch as well

@erwinfinder9182

2 жыл бұрын

I guess that's humans are obsessed with careers, always hunting for something - promotion or side-ways change.

@ajbones4207

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. I have 4 out of my 7 luxury watches that that were compleatly satisfying and the other 3 are meh! and you know, ok. The hunt was better than the acquisition.

@allanreardon

2 жыл бұрын

Same, after I bought my Speedy l suddenly thought 'what do I do now?'.

@Judah.Rosenthal

2 жыл бұрын

Every time.

@weeksy68

2 жыл бұрын

Same as chasing girls back in the day 🤔😬

"After a time, you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing after all as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true." -Spock

@ronforman9821

2 жыл бұрын

Mr or Dr?

@jamieorton6809

2 жыл бұрын

The dog

@kevinkohler2750

2 жыл бұрын

@@ronforman9821 Commander ;-)

@WatchUnwind

2 жыл бұрын

It’s like nailing a fat girl from the club. You wake up in the morning and it just was it worth it. You realize you were better off not getting it in the first place - Brandon from a watch & unwind

@johnbarnes5237

20 күн бұрын

Beat me to it!

I think the Tudor will most definitely still look good in time.

As a longtime Seiko owner (still) I lusted after a Spring Drive Grand Seiko. I sold some limited edition pieces to finally get a SBGA083 and when I finally got it, I still wore my Tudor Black Bay 79220R far more often and the GS just sat in the box looking pretty. It never really did much for me and I ended up selling it.

@alwayspooh1588

Жыл бұрын

I am like that with my Omega SMP - it just sits in a watch box while my BB GMT is on my wrist most days. Maybe I will sell the Omega.

Bravo for telling the world that Tudor isn’t just a baby Rolex anymore. They have their own thing and they’re kicking a**.

@dunkingstudios

2 жыл бұрын

Submariner is more timeless

@Mike-mq5xg

2 жыл бұрын

Tudor has finally grown up to play in the same league as Rolex!

@dunkingstudios

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mike-mq5xg Not a chance! I love tudor and I own a BB58 and a pepsi, but it is no where close to a rolex heritage and quality

@Brian-ee1gx

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mike-mq5xg Same league as vintage Rolex. Modern Rolex blows Tudor away, and it isn't even close.

@Mike-mq5xg

2 жыл бұрын

@@dunkingstudios Omega is better than Rolex! Tudor is better than Rolex! I could go on and on…

No date sub ain’t worried, it KNOWs you’ll be back - they always come back.

@WH-hi5ew

2 жыл бұрын

He's got a kermit (with date) way cooler and much rarer... why would you go back for an overpriced slightly boring generic looking businessman watch? Shame he sold the Explorer 2 though... its a gorgeous watch and no longer available in 40mm.

@BobbyDazzler888

2 жыл бұрын

@@WH-hi5ew original is best and most versatile. Green is just for bragging. Rarer how so? 1 million versus 250,000? Same sheet.

@robertn3121

2 жыл бұрын

Yep

@willielarsson9651

2 жыл бұрын

I sold my Kermit and have regretted it everyday since

@andrevanrensburg3639

2 жыл бұрын

Like bad women know you'll be back..

I feel increasingly that this channel is producing short video essays on watch collecting, and I think it's offering something smart and different. It seems pretty influential too; Adrian really knows how to initiate a talking point. You see it ripple across KZread. And beyond: I went to my watch dealer the other day, and he's talking about watch companies and social media, playing over the talking points from the other week's video, and - when I went back - hiring photographers to do his social media. There's lots of other channels I go to to perv on watches; this is one of the best for thinking about watches and watch collecting. The Bark and Jack straps are top drawer too. Thanks and all the best.

@BarkandJack

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much David. I’m really glad that the channel comes across that way, and that you like the straps. That’s very kind of you. Cheers, Adrian

That feeling of anti-climax you felt is called “postcoital tristesse” - a feeling of sadness, dissatisfaction and agitation post climax.

How are the BB58 and SMP not going to be good looking in the far future? People love vintage Tudor Snowflakes, and this Seamaster design has been in Omega's catalogue for twenty years now with no sign that it's popularity has gone down.

@pearse8783

2 жыл бұрын

28 years to be exact! The Seamaster with the Helium escape valve (no matter how controversial) is a staple design and always will be.

@eddyvega4534

2 жыл бұрын

I agree!

@caet49

2 жыл бұрын

Agree Omega Seamaster is through history the Best value diver in my book. Especially the 2018 version is awsome (design, fit & components)

@danielplainview4778

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly the old versions of the seamaster don’t really look very good, certainly nothing close to comparing them to a similar vintage submariner

@jonathansaraco

2 жыл бұрын

@@danielplainview4778 I mean, that's your opinion. Others disagree heavily. The Submariner is certainly an icon, so it will obviousy still look good in fifty years, but to say the SMP and BB58 will not full stop, despite the massive fanbases surrounding them? It's just weird to make that claim. There's room for more than one iconic diver design.

The hunt is always more satisfying than the kill

@Teromi

2 жыл бұрын

nahhhh!! the trophy is all! that’s why you have to hunt selectively.

@xmadman19x

2 жыл бұрын

Yea i still stare at my sub like the first day I got it

@theannouncer5538

2 жыл бұрын

@@Teromi *mounts submariner on mantle

I get this way with a lot of things. Including cars. You want want want, and then you get it. And the feeling is great. Then, after a while, you feel like, ok, it's just a watch, just a car, it was fun, been there done that. It's like, "i accomplished it". Now what? It doesn't need to be owned forever, but the achievement, the chase is what was exhilarating. Then, for me, if I need money, I'd probably sell my 10k USD watch, and keep all my others. Can still enjoy the rotation and other great looking pieces. Once you've done that, you feel like, "I did it once, and I can do it again if I want to". The hunger has been sated.

@murat2209

2 жыл бұрын

I am that way too and I start hating it... why always something else needs to come in? Ok, at least I am still with my wife :-)

@fakenewsisthenews3542

2 жыл бұрын

@@murat2209 haha, excellent point!

@Autos389

2 жыл бұрын

The The has a song about this…. kzread.info/dash/bejne/mJeftMmkfq29irw.html

@tw_wt

2 жыл бұрын

Same with women/girlfriends... ;D

@MWS1960

2 жыл бұрын

I am that way with watches and with cars I’ve owned 104 cars in forty years, but I bought a 2014 Porsche 911, and I absolutely love the car due to the flat six engine and the make of the car is solid. Everything is very high quality. As for watches I will continue to buy and sell.

I've wanted to be a "one watch guy" from the very beginning, but that's kind of the problem with our modern world. Nothing ever lives up to the hype, and we're constantly inundated with new shit that makes us question the value of our old shit. I am slowly starting to realize that the hunt for a new watch is infinitely more satisfying than any watch purchase I can ever make, and to be honest, I've been wearing my Casion F-91 more than anything else lately, and am considering selling off the rest. What's the point?

@bri13wvu1

2 жыл бұрын

I think, if you can find that balancing point... where you're interested in watches and enjoy learning... but can still keep the watch in perspective as --- at the end of the day --- a tool to tell the time ... you'll be in good shape. In my opinion, the true beauty of the watch is as a tool that you "do life with."

“The Submariner is iconic for a reason.” Says it all.👍😎

@rangorango7545

2 жыл бұрын

Still lost on me as to what those reasons are, it's not high horology, its ubiquitous and its a timex in a world of pateks, it's not even exciting ..I thinks its has an aspiration to be iconic ...

@cbosward

2 жыл бұрын

@@rangorango7545 aspirations? It is iconic and has been for years, that’s no aspiration it’s a fact.

@Leftystrat

2 жыл бұрын

You be said it all Marc👍

@algorithm007ify

2 жыл бұрын

The reason is marketing.

Nailed it with this one. In 2019 I had fully come to terms with spending nearly 7 grand on a 14060m, cash saved and all - before I tried the BB58. I looked for every possible reason that I should buy the Rolex, tried to convince myself for weeks, but once I'd worn the BB58 I literally couldn't bring myself to do it. I've had the BB58 on my wrist every day since with not a single regret 2 years later, I genuinely can't see me ever parting with it :)

@juniorjohnson5961

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Matt Glad to hear about your time with your BB58 I'm considering getting one what one did you get I'm considering the Black original .

@jeffegan9388

2 жыл бұрын

@@juniorjohnson5961 I have it in black . It’s a great watch I wear all the time. I had originally wanted a Rolex and haven’t been sorry I bought the bb58 instead I also bought an Omega Seamaster and still had money left over.

@scollyutube

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffegan9388 I did exactly the same thing too, Black BB58 and Blue SMP ;-)

@matthudson6914

2 жыл бұрын

@@juniorjohnson5961 i got the black, the original and still the best IMO

@GreedyMonkey69

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent choice, I too was looking for a no date Sub, but got the Tudor Black Bay Black after seeing it compared with the Ref.5510 Sub from the '50s, it's almost identical!

Great Video. What kind of watch storage box is that you're using?

Excellent take per usual Adrian. I feel I should share the following. I recently purchased a strap from your store on a whim for my beater Hamilton. Please continue the high level of customer service and tasteful touch to your products. From the quality product to the personalized card inside it's nice to be treated well when I choose to give my business somewhere... even when making a small purchase. Cheers.

As always Adrian you're spot on.....I love a lot of the Rolex range.... But I can't justify either the price on the used market (which is frankly fcking ridiculous for a mass produced machine finished watch) or the wait list and stupid games to try and get one! There are so many better watches out there

@wokka6850

2 жыл бұрын

Good comment. Nothing wrong wirh Rolex quality. But it's not special at the current price points, especially used prices.

@user-qi8ct7kv9f

2 жыл бұрын

F rolex..

@kingsizehomer

2 жыл бұрын

@@wokka6850 I love my Tag Heuer!

@ericfrost7323

2 жыл бұрын

Great segment. I’ve ADHD and you definitely have it, haha! Well done Sir!

@ericfrost7323

2 жыл бұрын

Sold my Rolex which was in the shop far too often and traded it for a 2017 Omega Seamaster (basic but more expensive and barely worn with box and papers). My Rolex was a 2003.

Thank you for yet another great video! I think it’s an important point to be made, sadly a lot of collectors now a days focus more on brand and status rather than actual quality. Resell value has also taken point over actual, genuine enjoyment.

I like your videos. May I ask what type of watch case do you have? Thank you.

Love the way the IWC in 0:45 the intro jumps backwards about 2s when adjusting the hands. Well done Schaffhausen - another classic.

I’m kinda loving your lighting and studio set up! So stripped back and minimal!

@markreynolds9135

2 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure that is his studio. I saw the leather gag ball and whip in the corner. 🤕

@watchpapi

2 жыл бұрын

@@markreynolds9135 😂😂😂

If I sold watch straps for a living, I would want a Submariner in my collection to help showcase my straps. It seems like the Submariner and Speedmaster are strap selling “cheat codes” for making the straps for sale look extra photogenic.

@TheSuaveEntrepreneur

2 жыл бұрын

😂 this is so true

How do your videos have so great visual quality. What is the resolution of your photos and of camera? Very good job.

Another great video Adrian, I can relate to this also , the Rolex submariner had it , it did nothing for me, sold it & got the same two as you ages ago. Awesome watches . Keep up the good work. Wills

I had the exact opposite experience: I love my 14060m more than I imagined I would. It's become my favorite watch!

@lotsofrobots1

2 жыл бұрын

(I also have bb58, speedmaster, and DJ...)

@joeschlicht

2 жыл бұрын

@@lotsofrobots1 Speedmaster and the 14060M is an incredible pair... I have the Speedmaster (love it), but not the Sub yet.

@brandonnickerson8934

2 жыл бұрын

Same here. It has met all expectations of iconic design. I'm not scared to wear it, anywhere. These watches aren't for everybody, but if you can own the watch and not let the watch own you, you're golden.

@tebieku

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. It’s beauty grows daily. And it’s going to age really well with the aluminum bezel and two line dial.

@brandonnickerson8934

2 жыл бұрын

@@tebieku I wonder how a vintage vintage inspired watch will age?

The Sub is like the Air Jordans of watches. It's iconic, great history, timeless, but it's kinda boring cos everyone has it.

@entroheat

2 жыл бұрын

And very very overpriced for what it offers I detest Jordan’s and same with Rolex just can’t buy one to wear but only reason I get it at msrp and only for selling later same as I would with Jordan’s

@NICO-zl3vd

2 жыл бұрын

@@entroheat Yes. True!

@Leftystrat

2 жыл бұрын

But when you get one you’ll keep it

@fredericktan9692

2 жыл бұрын

I sold my Sub date year 2014 6 months ago!! Just feel…. Is time to sell it….. While it still carry good price…. And… just feel to let it go…. But if it is GMT.. I probably will keep it

@bradleyfried

2 жыл бұрын

Now that it has become overpriced unobtanium it is not as cool as it was when Steve McQueen was wearing one as his daily beater watch. Who cares about something you can't buy?

I managed to finally purchase a Rolex Submariner Date at retail from an authorised dealer in 2020 and love it. Like you say the hunt was a big part of the fun but also people saying you would never be able get it. I did also actually own a Tudor GMT prior but found it too chunky so sold it and traded up to the Sub. Now looking for a potential second watch the BB58 has been on my radar and it haunts me on Instagram haha. Really enjoy your videos Adrian and good luck with the channel!👍🏼💪🏼

@DAfycariad

14 күн бұрын

exact same experience here - I ended up getting the BB58 to compliment the usage I was giving by submariner. I have no regrets, the retro look of the BB58 is amazing - I hope you ended up getting a BB58!

Hi Adrian I've watched this vid before and just viewed again. I absolutely love your thoughts and where they kinda drifted off too and returned back again. Funny thing being a watch enthusiast isn't it. Really appreciate the honesty in this video. I could relate in so so much of your thoughts and experiences 👍

What would’ve made this video compelling was if you only had the one Sub no date and still sold it. You made it clear that “redundancy” in your collection and the lack of “wow” factor spurred you to sell the watch. Most watch guys don’t have two Subs, let alone one.

I often think the only reason I want a Rolex is because I can't walk into a store and look at one. If I could pop in to my AD every couple of months and try on a Daytona or GMT I don't think I'd have such a strong desire to own one.

@greycats99

2 жыл бұрын

It also works the other way, I tried a BB58 on my wrist and it did nothing to me. Too small and hated the snowflake hand. So I got that desire out of my system and never looked back at one of those again.

@hughmckendrick3018

2 жыл бұрын

@@greycats99 It goes to show wrist size and taste are different for everyone. The BB58 just looks great on my wrist.

@uropy

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t think too much. Many things are obvious. People want Rolex because they want the path of least resistance in their life. Same thing as people want to go to Harvard. Not because they are good or bad but because they are proven path of least resistance.

@mikefortney7879

2 жыл бұрын

@@uropy not disagreeing at all. You make an interesting point. Could you explain the path of least resistance a little.

@stef1833

2 жыл бұрын

It’a called FOMO. Fear Of Missing Out. And when spending so much money, you don’t want to lose anything after purchase. That’s what makes the Rolex desirable.

Hey Adrian, where can i get that watch suitcase? And what brand is it? Cheers !

I’ve compared my late 90s omega smp 300 (2531) to mid 2000s subs and explorer 2s, and the omega’s build quality is far better despite being almost a decade older.

@stuartcole4845

2 жыл бұрын

Everyone seems to forget that I think. The Bond seamaster was so much better built than the subs of the day. It’s only been a little over a decade ago that most of Rolex’s lineup moved away from stamped clasps, from Jubiliees with hollow centre links. Eg, in 2007 you could have had a decade old seamaster with solid and milled everything and Rolex was still putting out jangly tinny rubbish. They paid almost no attention to anything other than the watch head. The beads of rice on that seamaster was simply superb, with its mix of brush outer links and polished beads, with every element articulating, it is still one of the most comfortable bracelets I’ve ever worn.

I had the same feelings about my new 2021 Omega Speedmaster Moon Watch. I have wanted a Moon Watch since I was a kid, and with the new update, it seemed like the perfect time to finally pull the trigger. I liked it in the store, and I liked it at home, but something was missing. It took a few weeks until I realized that there was nothing wrong with the watch; it was exactly what I had always wanted, and even better. It was me that changed. My watch collection and preferences had changed over the years, and the Moon Watch no longer fit, with me. Great video

@badboy-gn8fu

2 жыл бұрын

I love the omega Skywalker. I like and prefer omega over rolex. Haven't pulled the trigger on buying a omega yet. Since they are more expensive they'll have to wait. Right now im collecting Sinn and Dekla watches which imo are more practical and provides a good balance between luxury and usability.

As a watch enthusiast and collector, I feel that Rolex is ubiquitous. It’s not really high horology. One could argue that with price inflation on the secondary market, they’re quite overvalued. Undoubtedly, a great investment, however, it’s not only value retention or appreciation that ignite my passion for the hobby. My Grand Seikos, Nomos, Sinn and Zenith watches provide far more pleasure. My Rolex watches get far less wrist time. It’s a difficult concept to grasp if you’ve never owned a Rolex and it’s your aspirational timepiece.

@tdaveniii

2 жыл бұрын

Just my perception, but a Rolex is a "look at me" watch, while the others you mention (and, others, such as Glashutte Original), are about the watch itself.

@frankdux5693

2 жыл бұрын

With most things in life, the dream is always better than the reality.

@yaaxarr8977

2 жыл бұрын

As one KZreadr mentioned: Rolex is the Toyota into theLuxury Cars and I do like Toyota’s! ;)

@soulmaster63

2 жыл бұрын

@Nigel Molesworth Well… it was either this or being labeled as a jealous Rolex hater that can’t afford to buy one 😂 . FWIW I usually wear a Marathon or Damasko as a daily. Apologies for insulting your delicate sensibilities mate..😀

@soulmaster63

2 жыл бұрын

@@MPD90 It’s just a watch at the end of the day. I purchased my Rolex watches before they were uber expensive or ultra trendy.

Love your content and hearing your thought process to rationalise each piece

I was already loving my BB58 but you just bumped that feeling to the next level with this video. Thanks!

@giorgiamondani

2 жыл бұрын

👌

Back in about 2000, I thought I wanted a dive watch. I like the vintage style and traded for an early 80s Tudor Submariner with an acrylic crystal. It looked great, exactly the look I was striving for. I really like the look of a domed acrylic crystal. I bought a shark skin custom strap for it and then, I didn't wear it. It was too thick and bulky for me and didn't do anything for me emotionally. I was able to sell it quickly. Great watch, just not for me.

Quite often there is an anti climax upon receiving the watch. Especially, so when one is buying from the web without having tried it on. Still, you bought and sold perfectly. There’s just way too much hype around it and while I still feel there is more growth to be had - this cannot and will not go forever. Indeed, timing the market would be a bad idea - if it’s not enjoyable - correct decision to cash in!

Please tell us, where do we find this Box with the Inlays for Watches etc? 😁😁😁

Thanks for that video! Couldn't agree more! Around 10 years ago, you could buy the Rolex Sport Watches with appropriate discount and that was okay. Nobody wanted to spend more than about 5 to 5.5k Euros for a regular Sub or even a GMT or DJ. But was going on today is insane! The explosion of prices on the grey market are a result of stupid money in our young society and the hype on "social" channels. I don't want to be part of this anymore, because this doesn't have to do anything with my love to watches and my enthusiasm with that kind of hobby. Therefore, I fully understand your point in the video!

Great video. I have a BB41 heritage (larger wrist) inbound for just this reason. You could say I sidestepped your situation by never buying the Rolex in the first place. While I do like that older Sub model, I really would rather have my 3 Omegas and 2 Tudors than anything in Rolex's lineup.

What a great video, and I couldn’t agree more! This is such an honest truth, getting what you hunted for, is the end of the fun, like an anticlimax. I sold mine too for the same reasons and am stoked with my Tudor GMT. And they are new, amazing movements with power reserves that are astonishing. Needless to say that in it’s price range there will be room for others (T) which in the long run is more fun.

I have a GMT II that I purchased in 1996. Back then I paid around $4.000 for it. Now it sells for over $10.000 and quite honestly it doesn't worth it. But, the biggest concern at this stage is that this kind of watch is now very often stolen through violent robberies and I really do not enjoy this feeling of fear when I wear it. So, overall I will not sell it because I don't need to and it's still a good memory, but I wear it not so frequently. Clearly, not so well known brands are better for me at this stage

@pentachronic

2 жыл бұрын

This is exactly my issue with wearing an expensive watch. I can easily afford one but then if I wear it I become a robbery magnet. I don't need that kind of attention and to be honest I want to wear the watch that I like. It gives me pleasure to see it on my wrist vs in a display case. I buy them for me to enjoy and not as a pure investment.

Brilliant video, have a similar experience with my recently purchased two tone GMT Master from 1982, initially I wanted the 14060, it’s a Sub, iconic etc…it was the goal until I saw the GMT on a black strap and had to take the plunge, now I’m sure deep down a Sub wouldn’t live up to the looks of the GMT. Definitely a lesson to always buy what sings too you and not necessarily the masses.

Can you say where or how you sold it? The thing that stresses me out is I’d like to evolve my collection but don’t know how or where is the best place to sell?

@elefantrising

2 жыл бұрын

Selling sucks I tell you I do eBAy with decent to ok results

@sonudilli2450

2 жыл бұрын

👌

Logic may also say: your Kermit is a Submariner so you don’t “need” two. Haha. Jokes aside, this is exactly why I don’t own a sub: I have a Black Bay and a Batman and the aesthetics of both are far too similar to a Sub, though adjacent, for my wallet to also purchase/own a Sub. Love the idea of owning a buttery smooth swivel-y stool, however.

@kickswhipsncubans8246

2 жыл бұрын

I love what the purpose of the GMT function..but if they only had the glide lock as a submariner I'd agree you wouldn't need it..that difference is a huge one, but I think that's why rolex didnt add such a feature to the GMT..so it wouldnt be to identical to each other..I love them both though...

I just did the exact same thing. I sold a Sub and got the BB58. I love the aesthetic of the BB. The gilt makes the watch much warmer than the Sub. But the clasp is nearly a deal breaker. Three micro adjusts and a non-articulating link on the 6 o'clock side of the clasp make it uncomfortable and impossible to get the right fit. I can't wear this watch for more than an hour or two on the bracelet. I'm hoping the Uncle Seiko half link will solve the fit problem, but I'm not sure you can fix the pain caused by the non-articulating end link. I'll throw it on a nato strap and hope for the best. If Tudor rolls out the new T-Clasp (their version of Rolex's easy glide system) for the whole BB58 line and not just the limited released bronze version then they will make a lot of 58 owners very, very happy.

What kind of chair did you get? (Great vid, BTW. )

I had lusted for a no date sub and when the chance to buy one new via an AD came up I didn't hesitate. What I found myself more self conscious of after is the impression the Rolex leaves. Non watch people see Rolex and think another pretentious twit. Is it in my head, probably. Either way I find myself more thoughtful of when I wear it versus either of my Omega 300M (which totally fly under scrutiny).

@ams914

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, you really get all the wrong kinds of attention wearing Ceramic Rolexes.

@phmwu7368

2 жыл бұрын

It's a Submariner... or a Submariner date ...

@BobbyDazzler888

2 жыл бұрын

@@phmwu7368 on paper maybe not in conversation

@phmwu7368

2 жыл бұрын

@@BobbyDazzler888 Speedmaster or Speedmaster date... nobody says Speedmaster no date ... well it's the same for Rolex

@mihalis1010

2 жыл бұрын

Non-watch people don't see your watch. If they do, they don't care. I had a 16233 for awhile, and literally no one noticed or cared.

If watches were bought “on paper” then no, the Sub isn’t worth the money. However we often don’t buy watches on paper. They’re emotional purchases. Comparing specs is pretty much pointless when it comes to an emotional buy. The heart wants what the heart wants. And my heart wanted a Sub.

@993mike

2 жыл бұрын

With you there brother. Had my last Sub for 23 years, but when the new 126610LN with the slimmed down lugs and the gorgeous ceramic bezel came out I had to have it. Subs are a lifetime watch for wearing every day, and this one eventually will be left to my son. The other plus is when I sold my old one it paid for 80% of the cost of the new one.

@melocoton7

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely!! I love mine to bits

@wynstondannerman605

2 жыл бұрын

@@993mike youre wasting your time with a submariner, the new seamaster on a rubber strap is more versatile than any other dove watch out there.

What watch case is that? Looks cool.

The Kermit has so much personality! The hunt IS the drive for a watch collection.

I just love the way Adrian sticks to his inner gut principles. Tudor has caught up and making its mark in the world…👍 although a well made watch brand I can’t justify the hype and ridiculous premium grey market prices of rolex. Keep up the good work Adrian 👍

@OllieGIBO

2 жыл бұрын

Caught up? He is comparing an old submariner to a brand new Tudor, hardly a fair comparison.

But is it worth taking into consideration that the sub you had was from 2004 and the omega and tudor are much newer so they will probably be better quality and more up to date. Sorry for a little disagreement, I got a sub date all black from 2014 last year in July and I absolutely love it, I think its such a beautiful watch , super clean and I wasn't bothered about the buying experience, I actually collected it from a guy who had it on ebay. (Don't worry its checked and fine) but its my favourite thing I own. I think its personal preference but I understand alot of "famous" people or social media influencers just by things , ie watches for the buying process and video unfortunately:(

@chops6890

2 жыл бұрын

Of course it’s all personal preference. I have a 2004 Sub (16610) I bought new, I tried on and had the chance to buy the next model (116610) but the proportions are all wrong, the lugs, shoulders and bracelet doesn’t flow. This is why the latest sub has had its lug to lug width increased, to reduce those shoulders.

@wristwatchfam765

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. That is why I sold my sub. The fat lugs and skinny bracelet was unacceptable to me, especially when the new model came out, which now I can't get it of course.

@TenaciousGeebs

2 жыл бұрын

It’s interesting as I prefer the maxi case sub date ceramic to all the other subs because it is so proportionally different to the older and latest submariner. Feels unique and to my mind looks better for it. Each to their own, just interesting to hear other people’s views.

@rsr9116

2 жыл бұрын

I'm agree with you Danza, You're very right! this are personal choices, I had a Sub 2005 and sell it, then, I missed so much. So I bought a 2013 Sub date, I couldn't be happier, stronger builded. Love it and wearing just right now. There's a huge difference on built between this 2 Subs, 5 or 6 number's reference.

@ChesterGold

2 жыл бұрын

@@rsr9116 Agree and thanks for the reply

Sometimes i feel the same about my 14060M. Compared to the new Explorer II it just feels "not worth that much" on my wrist. Might need to keep an eye on this. Thanks for the reminder :)

What watch case is that! Looks awesome

Genius! You perfectly creating the story for the upcoming 'I finally got it back' video ;)

We have hunter genes in our DNA…once we get our “prey” it is no longer interesting, but rather the next prey becomes our goal…it is like that with me and watches…I stalk my prey with great attention, but once it (the watch) arrives in the mail, I sometimes don’t even open the box for several days or even weeks because I am already focused on a new and more exciting hunt. I understand what you are saying…may the hunt never end…😉

@WatchUnwind

2 жыл бұрын

You are the Hannibal lector of watches

Going to order your silver style NATO feature on the timeless watch channel of the speedy absolutely love that strap. Can't wait to get hands on with it. Great video!

@BarkandJack

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot mate. 🙌🏻

I was in love with a Resco Instruments BlackFrog watch for a long time. I finally pulled the trigger and loved it out of the box but after two days I just could not see the magic anymore. I still believe it's a killer watch, but against my other 60+ watches it did not stand out like I dreamed it would. Won't sell it because I love the company and it's still a cool watch but if I had 20/20 hindsight I would have rolled that spend up into a different watch. Loved this video. I watched a few other videos you had posted but this one finally got me to like and subscribe.

@jeffreyb.1657

2 жыл бұрын

Never heard of this one.... Looked at it. Too boring for me too.

Excellent video. Sometimes wanting is more desirable than having. I always wanted a Submariner, but couldn't afford it. When I finally could I walked into the store and tried it on, and I ended up walking out with a GMT Master II -- logic kicked in. I did a lot of traveling in those years, pre smartphone years, and the GMT II was ideal and I never regretted it. Mainly, I think, because it is the same size and case as the Sub, but far more useful. While I have other watches now the GMT II remains my trusted travel companion.

I agree. I find Rolexes are mostly a status symbol, and of course no bad quality, but you can get better quality for that money. I don’t need a status symbol.

Sold my GMT Batman and Submariner as it’s so sad that every man and his dog is trying to buy these models and Rolex have lost their exclusivity. Have bought Breitling, Tudor and Panerai. Won’t ever wear Rolex again.

@jiggy734

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe people just like the design. Loved it years ago before all this hype. It’s my favourite Rolex

@hankholstein7228

2 жыл бұрын

@@jiggy734 The sad thing is, the majority of the people buying them aren’t buying them because they like them, they’re buying them to flip them for profit. The real consumer then doesn’t get a chance of buying something that they love. Rolex need to overproduce all of the Professional models to kill the grey market and to stop people who flip. It’s exactly the same with Patek Philippe Aquanaut and Nautilus models.

@WatchUnwind

2 жыл бұрын

I dunno if it’s so much they lost their exclusivity it still cost a lot of money for a Rolex and you have to save that amount of money one way or another. It’s that they don’t give a hoot about their customers, intact I’d go as far as it say it seems like they actually dislike or look down on their potential customers

@hankholstein7228

2 жыл бұрын

@@WatchUnwind They have definitely shot themselves in the foot this time. The fact the most authorised dealers have about 10 watches or less left in their stock rather than 150 to 200 means that there is an enormous exodus of potential Rolex customers to other brands. Many dealerships are now investing huge amounts into other luxury watch brands to make up the shortfall of revenue that Rolex have created. Many sales people within the retail watch sector have also had enough of the stream of people that walk in or phone every day looking for Professional models that they can flip , it is exceptionally boring and tedious for them and for that reason many of them now refuse to wear Rolex watches because of the association . It actually lowers the perception of exclusivity. When the new Rolex factory is completed next year, Rolex should make a point of overproducing Professional models to dampen the grey market and to stop people flipping for a quick profit. It will ensure that genuine purchasers get what they want rather than opportunist flippers who have their names down at multiple AD for a range of the same watches. Just my opinion ! Many people are buying into Breitling, Omega, Panerai, IWC, to name a few, rather than Rolex. Also Rolex have stipulated that AD’s now have to display any stock that has arrived, even it is already sold, so that displays don’t look empty ( there was nothing on display ), and this has lead to dealers displaying stainless steel Professional models in their windows , which are already spoken for. They then have 50 enquiries a day from prospective window shoppers for something they cannot sell. What is the point of that ? It just pisses people off .

@WatchUnwind

2 жыл бұрын

@@hankholstein7228 very well said I 100% agree with everything you said

Between date and no date, what would you guy pick ? I prefer no date due to the symmetry

Selling my 14060m 4 Liner while paying for home renovations is still one of my biggest regrets in life. I wish i just took on the debt. The 14060m 4 Liner is still my favorite watch of all time.

Almost as smooth as Nikita Mazepin's spinning on track.

@frankdaneluzzi3503

2 жыл бұрын

I also would add Mazepin should not be in F1.

I understand what you mean bro , I recently bought the Tudor Harrods and I didn't really make connect with the watch so I'm thinking about selling it.

That is your thoughts on things like diy watch club? And would you review them?

It’s the day of submariner talk!

I totally get what you’re saying. When I got my 14060m, I was slightly underwhelmed. The design is so iconic it’s become almost commonplace and ubiquitous - it’s the design that every other dive watch is either based upon or judged against. Didn’t feel exciting or special as a result. But after a few months, I really grew to love it. So easy to wear, so classic. The perfect watch.

@BobbyDazzler888

2 жыл бұрын

the brute. Any situation

@IdaelDiaz

2 жыл бұрын

Happened the same

@SC-km5vc

2 жыл бұрын

Sure, but they are $9k US. No thanks!

@owentaylor26

2 жыл бұрын

Iconic, comfortable, light on the wrist, versatile...but, there’s always a but...the bracelet is junk.

@derekflanderschang9654

2 жыл бұрын

Seriously check out sea dweller 16660 or thereabouts - for me it’s just different enough and the little valve is just so cool, the script on the case back. Crazy what it is capable of (and I will never test it to). I think of Submariner as heritage of military, where Sea-Dweller is heritage of absolute maniacs and blue-collar astronauts (aquanauts).

What watch box do you use please? I want one

Hi What watch case do you use?

I have a Tudor Black Bay 58 and its by FAR the most excitement I have ever felt about a watch. I drove 2hrs to get it and it was such a rush almost like I couldn't get my hands on it fast enough. Its sitting on my wrist while typing this and I am still excited about it. To be honest the Daytona is the only Rolex I want but it retails for 15k (Unavailable) and I am exactly middle class so that would be crazy for me to even try to pull. I guess what I am saying is Rolex is not the only game in town anymore and to be honest some of their watches are ugly plain and simple . Find a watch that excites you and that's the direction to head in my opinion.

Instead of à used sub in aluminium bezel I would choose the équivalent seadweller: much much more personality and idéal size today (was big & thick in the 2000s but perfect today).

@lbco5229

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. That’s just what I did.

Appreciate the frank analysis of this video. I have owned The BB58, Kermit and the Sub No Date for awhile. But at the end I decided to re-home the Sub No Date to someone who would appreciate it more.

What is the brand of your watch case please ?

Great video. I wanted a five digit Sub for years but could not afford one when they were new. While I could afford a five digit Sub today, I chose to purchase a new Tudor BB58 black dial instead. To me, the Tudor feels more like the way a Submariner should look than the current six digit Sub. The only thing I disagree with you is I believe the Tudor is timeless and will still look spectacular in the future. And yes, for many people, the hunt is more fun than the watch itself. These watches get so hyped online that reality often has a difficult time keeping up with the hype. I do love the Tudor, though!

@64Sq

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you that I think the BB58 will become a classic, It's such an elegant watch. I got myself the 925 with the open back. I bought it for two reasons, it was the style of dive watch i was after - not shiny having a brushed metal look and the exhibition case as i've never owned one. And then when i found out it was pure silver or 92.5% I was like WOW. I didn't know much about Tudor at the time but am beginning to realise that this is a brand that now stands in a league of it's own. I see it more as the bad boy of the Rolex family, doing things different in ways no one else would dare and pulls it off majestically.

Would love to see now that some time has passed a review of the Zenith Chronomaster Sport. Zenith take 2? Have your feelings changed at all?

What a great video. I'm going through this whole process of whether or not I should purchase a Rolex Sub no date vs Tudor BB58/54 right now. I believe you've convinced me that I would have severe buyer's remorse because the aesthetic and design of the BB58/54 just has me every time I try them on. Really many of the Tudors do. I can get a few Tudors for the price of one sub. I don't think the sub as you said would excite me as much as wearing the Tudors on the daily. And I think you're right, the excitement is really in the hunt to get what most people cannot get. Thanks for setting me straight!

What's your opinion on the Explorer vs the Ranger?

I think part of the problem is that you had an old submariner vs. the higher quality modern ones. The new bracelet and clasp is great.

@Bisley1

11 ай бұрын

Then again, Adrian clearly does favor the shape and size of the old cases, as do I. But i guess it’s ok if you got them at retail back in the day but it’s a tough pill to swallow, if your paying current prices for an “inferior” watch. I too, am considering a 14060 or 16710 GMT, but i’m having trouble justifying either.

@Bisley1

11 ай бұрын

@@SaintWill70 i guess, I’ll find out how i feel about it if / when i get it. I ordered the green one, just after it’s release in 2021😃 i still feel that the older ones have more charm, but I’m not spending around 20k for an old Kermit. Suddently 13k for the 16710 GMT sounds a lot better😄

I agree with most of what you said, except, that only the Sub will look good years from now and the Black Bay 58 and Seamaster won't. I think the Sub and Seamaster will look great, as will the BB 58. All three are pretty timeless designs.

@bobbobertbobberton1073

2 жыл бұрын

The planet ocean will look great, looks far better than the submariner which I think is incredibly overrated, its a very dull looking watch, its not aesthetically balanced at all. The dial is lost behind the markers.

Great Adrian, I felt exactly the same with my Panerai, it was great and I do love the brand, but just fell out of love with it and sold it. No remorse, but still think Panerai are awesome just not for my wrist. Cheers mate, love your stuff.

Totally agree, I've been looking at the SMP in black, the speedy and bb88. Tried them all on at AD and the bb88 didn't want to leave my wrist, still want the omega, and still want a sub (at the right price) keep up the good work

I can totally get the the move to sell the no date sub and get the BB58 and SMP 300. I was having a similar decision myself but with newer watches. I could have sold my BB Harrods edition and added £4550 onto the sale and get a modern Air King, or neo vintage no date sub. However I just didn't feel like the other options where worth it to me because I have my BB and my newly acquired Speed Master with the 1863 movement seems like a better option to me. After 2 weeks of speedy ownership I get to enjoy switching between the 2 watches vers having 1 Rolex. I get enough of the Rolex feel from my Tudor and the Omega is a welcome change. At some point I will like to buy into Rolex ownership but that's going to be for another milestone in my life.

Finally - An honest comment - Rolex is overvalued

So i can relate. I got and omega seamaster quartz (goldeneye) and a Tag Monza chrono from the same auction. Before they turned up i had in my head, flip the Omega and keep the Monza for the collection. Couldn’t of been any different, I loved (and still do) the omega, such a good watch to just pick up and go with. The tag on the other hand just felt wrong. So sold that after just not feeling that luv that you get sometimes. Good vid

what is the investment potential of tudor watches and also what would the price be of the submariner if you kept it?

Just saw both of these watches last week at their respective AD’s. Love them both. Great watches on the technical side and they look great on my wrist. The Black Bay is less expensive than the Seamaster…but the Seamaster has got a bit more to offer. Ill let my heart chose. I appreciate your thoughts on both of these great watches!

The more I’m fooling around to build my watch collection, the more I think I will end up with a 3 watches collection, 3 Tudor: The BB58, the BB36 and the 1926. Period. 🤔😎 ... and I can’t agree more: Buying your Grail watch just kills the journey. 😩

@SeniorChaChaCha

2 жыл бұрын

Great choices in my opinion

Does anyone know if the bezel in the Black bay is prone to scratches? That's the only thing that puts me off buying one...no ceramic bezel?

Really enjoying the videos. Any new watch reviews coming up? If you are wondering which brands to review I’d love to see a Carl f Bucherer Also will you add a chronograph to you collection at some time?

Ok we’re talking a low end watch here but for me it was the Seiko Arnie. I’m a huge Arnie fan, I grew up watching his films as a child. When other kids were raving about The Lion King I was talking about how awesome Predator was! To a child he’s literally an action figure brought to life. Bought the Seiko Arnie without seeing it and boy was I shocked by how poor the build quality was. It wasn’t even worth keeping as a novelty piece of memorabilia, don’t see the point of having £400 sitting in the watch box for no reason.

"We created our own hype." Hit me hard.

Advice please! My name is working its way up the wait list for a black sub no date. It started at 158 and I am probably a year away. I could only put my name down for one and I chose the black sub no date coz it had the shortest wait list. I have a 39mm explorer, omega AT Skyfall, GS SBGN001, GS SBGA083 and a JLC Reverso Large Small Seconds and a bunch of other watches. Good choice? Or the black sub is redundant coz of the Explorer (i love the E and will never part with it) Thanks guys.

@BarkandJack

2 жыл бұрын

Hi buddy, I’d say it fits in your collection because you don’t have the traditional dive watch. That’s a great collection.

@FABM27

2 жыл бұрын

@@BarkandJack cheers Adrian. Thanks 👍 You may recall that one of your first videos was to help me buy my first watch. It turned out to be the Explorer haha

Similar experience once the newness of my 124060 wore off. I was able to appreciate the BB58 for what it was. I stopped looking at it as a runner-up prize for the sub.