Which Rolex Submariner to BUY? - 5513, 14060, 14060m, 114060

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The Rolex Submariner, or more commonly known as the No Date Submariner, is one of the most iconic watches ever. However, they have changed massively over the past few decades making it quite hard to decide which one to buy.
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Rolex Submariner 5513
Rolex Submariner 14060
Rolex Submariner 14060m
Rolex Submariner 114060
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  • @BarkandJack
    @BarkandJack4 жыл бұрын

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  • @jackyoung7097

    @jackyoung7097

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bark and Jack well done 👍🏼 Adrian, love this when you do vertical reviews of watches. I know Hodinkee do reference points but your own unique opinion is also great to hear. So don’t second guess yourself! If you want to do your own review then do it!

  • @pyromaster2613

    @pyromaster2613

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey, nice Video.. Omega seamaster is also interessting, has a great history and is much affordable.

  • @abefroman8202

    @abefroman8202

    4 жыл бұрын

    Adrian what is the story with that sick clown, John McAnus? Did you get his channel binned. If so, well done.

  • @carcarroom

    @carcarroom

    3 жыл бұрын

    Date or no date?

  • @WATCHVICE
    @WATCHVICE4 жыл бұрын

    What an honor to be mentioned on your channel! Thank you and happy we could help 🙏

  • @BarkandJack

    @BarkandJack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Superb footage Kai. Thanks so much. 👍🏻

  • @humanbeing1675

    @humanbeing1675

    4 жыл бұрын

    Watch family😊

  • @katherinedalton1330

    @katherinedalton1330

    4 жыл бұрын

    I am a lady watch lover in Virginia and am so happy to have found Jenni! A woman who knows watches and can provide great content for anyone who loves watches especially us women in the hobby!! Tell her thanks for all of her hard work!

  • @damienkali

    @damienkali

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BarkandJack Nice videos mate, I just picked mine up kzread.info/dash/bejne/iGei2NmsnJW2m6w.html

  • @rnunez70681
    @rnunez706812 жыл бұрын

    Let me point out some mistakes on this video. The MK1 gen of the 14060M (2 liners) were NOT chronometer certified by COSC, possibly due to costs associated with it, it was produced for 8 years from 1999 to 2007. The MK2 (4 liner) was the first no date Sub ever to become COSC certified, hence the extra 2 lines of text stating so, this happened in 2007, and this MK2 was produced until 2012, not 2009, it had a 5 year lifespan. The 114060 was introduced at Basel 2012, not 2009 and was discontinued in late 2020 after 8 years.

  • @superkrell

    @superkrell

    Жыл бұрын

    Correct...!

  • @Chanelsvibe

    @Chanelsvibe

    Жыл бұрын

    I believe the first submariner to be COSC certified was the 5512 four liner.

  • @vautrain

    @vautrain

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Chanelsvibe Correct!

  • @rnunez70681

    @rnunez70681

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@Chanelsvibe I stand corrected my good Sir!! Thank you!!

  • @robertschriek1353

    @robertschriek1353

    6 ай бұрын

    Totally agree!

  • @chi-towncalifornia5916
    @chi-towncalifornia59164 жыл бұрын

    2-line 14060M is the pinnicle for me. Perfect case shape, clean dial, and modern enough to be used every day.

  • @alpa4736

    @alpa4736

    3 жыл бұрын

    I own one. Best sub ever, IMHO

  • @jimbean4945

    @jimbean4945

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alpa4736 I agree, perfectly balanced, astehtically pleasing shape, perfection.

  • @Thomas-vq5pb
    @Thomas-vq5pb4 жыл бұрын

    it would be great if the thicknesses of watches were mentioned and not only the diameter, as it makes a big difference for fit and wear. Great videos, thanks Adrian.

  • @reedgrabowski8314

    @reedgrabowski8314

    4 жыл бұрын

    Another measurement to consider along with watch thickness is the lug to lug. To me this is most important as it can determine what will fit a wrist when you know your wrist breadth as you look down it - as if doing a wrist shot. Since my wrist breadth is 52mm, I focus on watches with lug to lug measuring 48mm or less.

  • @8rooks

    @8rooks

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think the difference is around 1mm, 11.8mm 14060 vs 12.5 for the 114060 or something like that

  • @Romio666

    @Romio666

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@8rooks what about the 5513 plz ?

  • @misterbianco6202
    @misterbianco62024 жыл бұрын

    THE bond watch was the 6538. Also not all 14060 were tritium. In 1998 they were Swiss branded with Luminova and in 1999 and 2000 they were branded Swiss Made and had Superluminova. The M really came to the market in late 2000 and had the exact same dial as its predecessor two years before. And an aluminium insert is closer to 100 bucks than to 20 these days :)

  • @antonig4452

    @antonig4452

    8 ай бұрын

    The "Swiss" only branded were 1998-1999, "U" and almost all "A" serial #. Luminova.

  • @therapiststeve3294
    @therapiststeve32944 жыл бұрын

    2nd...this is the Video I didn't know I was waiting for, but now having seen it, I realize I've always been hungry for the information & the context of it. So much good info I know this is one of your videos I'll re-watch multiple times. What a gift. Thank you, Adrian!

  • @phmwu7368
    @phmwu73684 жыл бұрын

    Any toolwatch Rolex Submariner needs lug holes... so the 14060M is the last of the classic Rolex Submariner diving watches... 8:52 4 line dial version 3130 ran from 2007 to 2012

  • @mihalis1010

    @mihalis1010

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ph MWU why though? Never understood the whole lug hole necessity thing. Of course, I also think that a watch which comes on a bracelet belongs on that bracelet.

  • @manuel_winde

    @manuel_winde

    4 жыл бұрын

    If a watch comes on a shit or average bracelet maybe but the new sub has possibly the best bracelet and clasp on the market... why would you want to take it on and off? It’s not exactly hard to take the bracelet off without drilled lugs anyway but I don’t get why...

  • @valengreymoon5623
    @valengreymoon56234 жыл бұрын

    Personally, I think a pre-ceramic model with the newest bracelet would be a great combination, considering that the maxi case just looks too bloated in its proportions.

  • @xmuninu
    @xmuninu4 жыл бұрын

    I have the two line 14060M and it really is the perfect Submariner in my opinion. I was offered a 114060 a couple of years ago at retail price and I couldn't refuse it. You're absolutely right, they are like two totally different watches character wise, and on the wrist. If I really had to part with one of them it would undoubtedly be the 114060. It's beautifully engineered but I find it a bit to square, boxy and soulless. If Rolex made a modern Ceramic Submariner in the 40mm Yacht Master case it would be sublime!

  • @jimbean4945

    @jimbean4945

    Жыл бұрын

    I have the 14060M with 2 lines of text too and would say it's the best of the bunch. I agree the 114060 is too boxy, and lacks that astehtically pleasing look of the earlier models.

  • @timetotalkwatches7185
    @timetotalkwatches71854 жыл бұрын

    I own the ceramic.. it’s a tank.... ideally I’d love to have a two liner 14060m to keep it company!

  • @glenlawrence9711
    @glenlawrence97114 жыл бұрын

    🙏🏻 Great summary ,thank you for you time in making this video. I have a 1406m four liner and like you spent lots of time deciding on which watch to buy it’s a truly classic watch that I love wearing. And will one day hand down to my son..

  • @deantreloar
    @deantreloar4 жыл бұрын

    The answer to your title question is: “yes”

  • @clegsmegson2627

    @clegsmegson2627

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have every Sub model but more of a Patek kinda guy.

  • @Mitch-dr7un

    @Mitch-dr7un

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cleg Smegson rich kid?

  • @clegsmegson2627

    @clegsmegson2627

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Mitch-dr7un CEO of my own business actually. Seiko kid?

  • @paulthorpe766

    @paulthorpe766

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cleg Smegson Wow a 6200,6204,6205,5514,5510,6538,5517,5512,6536,5508,5513,1680 etc etc hats off to you sir I’m well impressed

  • @deantreloar

    @deantreloar

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@clegsmegson2627 I know, right? Seikos, gross! Poor people are so disgusting. They can't understand why you would watch a video about watches you supposedly already own by a channel that explicitly denounces watch snobbery. Pathetic. But, I get you man. As soon as these dweebs run their own company and find their worth in material possessions, they'll understand too.

  • @greycats99
    @greycats994 жыл бұрын

    Finally! The Sub video! As a proud owner of a 114060 since over a year, I still find myself staring at it with sparkles in my eyes every time I wear it, which is every single day. I adore this watch more than anything else I’ve ever owned!

  • @pauluk2109

    @pauluk2109

    4 жыл бұрын

    greycats99 owned mine since January and feel exactly the same. Doubt I’ll ever need another watch

  • @krisliska6854

    @krisliska6854

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you get an 114060, get ready to sell the collection off! It’s the best one watch collection there is!

  • @stig5763

    @stig5763

    4 жыл бұрын

    I’m growing bored with mine 🙁 have been on a seiko kick recently.

  • @jo-beeem1063
    @jo-beeem10634 жыл бұрын

    The best sub is the one you can get your hands on. Got a 114060 for a few months now, and loving it!

  • @danhu8143

    @danhu8143

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wear in good health

  • @philw4053
    @philw40534 жыл бұрын

    Great, concise history of the Sub. Thanks! Completely agree that you need a watch to wear and enjoy even if it might get slightly beaten up. My compromise is I have the 114060 which I use for best but a Ginault Ocean Rover 2 with aluminium bezel (rather than the new ceramic version they do) plus domed vintage look sapphire crystal as my everyday watch. The Ocean Rover 2 build quality is (I’d say) similar to the Rolex and you get the vintage look but won’t break the bank if you bash it while doing DIY!

  • @benjamin7739
    @benjamin77394 жыл бұрын

    Last month I bought a 1973 5512 , I dont really wear it, but just love to look at it, try it on and put it back in the safe :)

  • @paulojpcarvalho74
    @paulojpcarvalho744 жыл бұрын

    Only two words: THE BEST! Surely the best ever video about Submariner that I have ever seen. Very objective but with passion. Loved the map resuming the models! Congrats!

  • @andrewsmith3062
    @andrewsmith30624 жыл бұрын

    To be able to start an introduction about watches whilst moving your hands at the same time is nothing unusual, but not to spill any coffee while doing it is a real gift! An enjoyable review, thank you.

  • @finesse49
    @finesse494 жыл бұрын

    Nice informative video. As someone else said the best one is the one on your wrist, in my case the '69 5513 I've had from new. It's seen parties, the underside of 8 feet of Arctic ice and everything in between. I much prefer its svelt case to the most recent iteration. I'll never have another Rolex as I can't justify the cost of a new one.

  • @dlappin28
    @dlappin284 жыл бұрын

    14060m with 4 line dial is a future classic and will be highly desired

  • @heric_

    @heric_

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m still undecided between 2 lines VS 4 lines of 14060M … what do you suggest ? I like the vintage and cleaner look if 2 lines but I think that 4 lines offers more for approximately the same price …

  • @Romio666

    @Romio666

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@heric_ it’s not the sane future. 2 lines much more collectible and you like it. So go get it 😄. Don’t think twice. Get 14060m if it’s your only Rolex. It’s just the best of both worlds.

  • @heric_

    @heric_

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Romio666 ;)

  • @joa2944
    @joa29444 жыл бұрын

    I prefer the ceramic bezel, maxi case and bracelet on the 114060. Great review and thank you for sharing your experience

  • @kellypaws
    @kellypaws4 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. Enjoyed that one. You're a public service keeping us entertained during these unfortunate times. Give Jody a bell, feels like he's not dragging his end of the log!

  • @randomnamenice3986
    @randomnamenice39864 жыл бұрын

    14060M rise up! Loved the production, and glad you went over submariners I personally love them.Will you possible do a collection overview this year?

  • @MHolt9999
    @MHolt99994 жыл бұрын

    Great Video - drilled lugs would have been an interesting topic. I see your newer 14060m must be quite late to have engraved rehaut but it still has drilled lugs??? I have a date version with un-drilled lugs - did they continue with the drilled lugs on the no date due to it being more likely to be used by professional divers?

  • @MrFlussaal
    @MrFlussaal4 жыл бұрын

    5513 Submariner without the white gold indices, I just love it.

  • @kraquin
    @kraquin Жыл бұрын

    Thanks to this video I now own a two line 14060M. Love the symmetry, lack of unneccessary info on the dial, no redundant "ROLEX" markings around the rehaut, and graceful contour.

  • @BarkandJack

    @BarkandJack

    Жыл бұрын

    Congrats John, it's a brilliant watch.

  • @lordhumungous7908
    @lordhumungous79089 ай бұрын

    I got my 14060m four liner (2010) just a week ago. I'm loving it so far. Initially, I was a bit taken aback by the seemingly flimsy stamped clasp. But once sized properly and on the wrist, it wasn't a concern. It also feels very small. I also bought a brand new Omega Seamaster Professional 300m just two weeks earlier and it's a beast of a watch. The 42mm diameter suits me well. I decided on the 14060m, classic Sub thanks to your video. I would love the modern clasp on the classic case.

  • @tandhan
    @tandhan4 жыл бұрын

    Black Bay 58, toughness of a 114060 and the feel of a 5513

  • @grahamcartwright5141

    @grahamcartwright5141

    4 жыл бұрын

    Very good point, my sentiments exactly, that's why I bought one & it's been a fantastic.

  • @SimulatorWhiz

    @SimulatorWhiz

    4 жыл бұрын

    BB58 is more like a 6536 as opposed to 5513

  • @philtechGT3

    @philtechGT3

    4 жыл бұрын

    The BB58 is very close to my 5508. I tried it while having my 5508 on my wrist. Almost a modern clone

  • @WatchUnwind

    @WatchUnwind

    4 жыл бұрын

    its a great watch

  • @rcm4u2

    @rcm4u2

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, the 6536 and 5508 are just about the size of the bb58, I have them all. I’ll probs. Do a comparison on KZread soon. I’ll raven compare them to earlier 36mm models, and the first 5512 versions. The bb58, 6536, and 5508 are the perfect proportions, and all beautiful.

  • @BobbBobb321
    @BobbBobb3214 жыл бұрын

    Very cool and informative video as always, thank you for that Adrian! I have question though: Does the lume on the 14060 still glow today or is it "worn out" by now?

  • @BarkandJack

    @BarkandJack

    4 жыл бұрын

    It’s unlikely for a 14060 lume to glow. My Explorer is from 1998 and the lume is dead. It glows for about 2-3 seconds when charged with a UV light. It’s actually really annoying when at night.

  • @urielgonzalez9916
    @urielgonzalez99164 жыл бұрын

    great video, a lot to learn, two question, the accuracy changes by model or is the same? and other question, only the 114060 are antimagnetic with the parachrom hairspring?

  • @Romio666

    @Romio666

    2 жыл бұрын

    I am not an expert, but as I know, 1- The accuracy is getting slightly better, each time the movement is upgraded. 2- I don’t think that the 114060 is even totally antimagnetic. Only it’s only the hairspring.

  • @edjustice7755
    @edjustice77554 жыл бұрын

    So informative...Thanks Mate....personally always wanted a 14060 (pre 99'), the 4 line variant was just like any other sub, that classic vintage look for me.

  • @JonasSorensenDK
    @JonasSorensenDK4 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video Adrian🙏 a great successor to your video about the Explorer line. IMO, these comparison-videos are your sweetspot.

  • @simonmayes3374
    @simonmayes33744 жыл бұрын

    Cool video, as ever Adrian. I’ve got a 14060 and a current sub date ceramic. As the sub date ceramic was my first Rolex I have a real soft spot for it. However, you just can’t beat the purity of the 14060. I’ve also got a 981 Porsche Cayman which is a lovely , balanced , exhilarating and enjoyable car but will always yearn for an air cooled 911. Keep up the great work mate. May you and your family stay safe.

  • @MountainStandardTime
    @MountainStandardTime4 жыл бұрын

    I'm just happy enough to land an 114060! Can't beat that bracelet, and I love how in certain light... the bezel looks "ghost" OH!! The sound of that bezel click is sublime! Great video Adrian.

  • @syds99
    @syds993 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much, this is incredibly informative. Are you able to put a new bracelet on the older Subs? eg if you purchase a 14060m from a dealer/Chrono24 (without a bracelet), could you purchase the new version and would it fit?

  • @johansen4711
    @johansen47114 жыл бұрын

    You nailed it again, Adrian. Good scope also, not trying to step on Hodinkee's toes. What I feel all the Subs you mention lack to make them perfect from my point of view is the the 360 degree indices on the bezel. One of the reasons I like the modern bigger sibling 116600 Seadweller or a true Mil-Sub. Thanks for the great work.

  • @michalskorupski5165
    @michalskorupski51652 жыл бұрын

    Just got an unpolished 2-liner 14060M and I absolutely love it! The video definitely helped!! Thanks!!

  • @phillipmoodie9071
    @phillipmoodie90714 жыл бұрын

    Adrian, I have been a regular viewer for the last six months, and found them all professionally presented and very interesting, but this one took your standard up to another level. I couldn't analyse what was different, but my attention didn't waver at any time. I just enjoyed listening. Phil.

  • @librarianrobert7426
    @librarianrobert74264 жыл бұрын

    One of the first watch videos I ever enjoyed and learned from was Adrian's, about the Explorer. Similar to this one. Stay safe, Adrian and the entire Watch Fam!

  • @LesterLovesWatches

    @LesterLovesWatches

    4 жыл бұрын

    LibrarianRobert Remember it. He was on a roof and it was cold. Funny how you remember extraneous things like that.

  • @richards3108
    @richards31084 жыл бұрын

    Nice video Adrian, I agree with you on the 14060m modern features housed in the elegant case with the slim shoulders which seem to suit the watch better than the maxi case 👍

  • @AmreshKumar-vt3pm
    @AmreshKumar-vt3pm4 жыл бұрын

    Love the pre-ceramic, 5 digit Subs. The lugs are more tapered and it rest easy on the wrist. Anyway, I have been wearing my 16610 around the house since I have been staying at home for the past couple of weeks lol

  • @Insta-PICXPRESS
    @Insta-PICXPRESS4 жыл бұрын

    These are the helpful videos that make your channel so special. Please keep up doing reference points like this. Even for Omega if possible.

  • @mkemp1605
    @mkemp16054 жыл бұрын

    Hi adrian. Thanks for the great video. Love the new ceramic for me. I just have a quick question. I currently have a tudor black bay blue is it worth the upgrade to a sub for the cost? Or buy another tudor? Regards.

  • @milesf4626

    @milesf4626

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Michael Kemp I suppose it is if your BBB doesn’t hold any sentimental value and you can get a good price for it. Alternatively if you have the funds you could add to / build a collection. Put the BBB on a strap if you haven’t already and you’ll have two completely different looks. Blue aluminium with leather or a Nato and black ceramic with that fantastic stainless steel oyster bracelet. Food for thought indeed my friend.....

  • @paulbroad128
    @paulbroad1284 жыл бұрын

    Great video Adrian really enjoyed it. One small point, the Sub that features in Dr no was a ref 6538, not the 5513

  • @Romio666

    @Romio666

    2 жыл бұрын

    The 6538 has no crown guards.

  • @1967plymgtx
    @1967plymgtx4 жыл бұрын

    Another excellent video. I especially like your comments about wearing your Rolex. For a while, I obsessed about mine, concerned about any minute imperfections that I might create by wearing it. Then I realized that the only way to keep it pristine was to never actually wear and enjoy it.....and that would be a real shame. So, I compromise by wearing it often, but try to remember to set it aside if I start an activity that has a likelihood of causing it excessive wear and tear. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.......cheers!

  • @s3freebird
    @s3freebird4 жыл бұрын

    I have a 5513 as well and have basically the same thoughts as to its durability. And I've thought about getting an M or 114260 to update the glass and luminous. But I like the rattle of the bracelet and the look of the watch so much more than the 114. I'd consider an M though, like yours - the 2 line. One difference of opinion: I love the 2-way bezel - so much easier to set, and mine doesn't spin around without a deliberate move. Thanks

  • @meirweiss5967
    @meirweiss59674 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this review! Definitely helped me narrow down the best option for me. What would be an equivalent to the 14060M but with a date?

  • @youtubeperson1856

    @youtubeperson1856

    4 жыл бұрын

    Meir Weiss post 2000 16610, superluminova dial, 3135 movement, classic case, old bracelet. Go pre 2003 if you want drilled lugs. SELs post about 2001

  • @jackyoung7097
    @jackyoung70974 жыл бұрын

    The waitlist is over! I went into a Rolex AD in Switzerland 3 weeks ago before lock down and social distancing. I got a call last week and was told they were going to post the No Date Sub to me. It arrived today! I have never spent a penny with the AD, I just charmed the salesman and I think I was in the right place at the right time.

  • @Jungleman707

    @Jungleman707

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bucherer?

  • @chiliprepper7678

    @chiliprepper7678

    4 жыл бұрын

    😀👍

  • @jeanraspail2979

    @jeanraspail2979

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wow, I am still waiting at Watches of Switzerland in London. Since 2 years now. Luckily, I managed to buy one in Vienna in the meantime (after about 1y wait).

  • @fattyharrybasset
    @fattyharrybasset4 жыл бұрын

    Great video Adrian. Very timely. I have recently been weighing up the idea that a 14060m needed to enter my collection as my everyday watch...

  • @spittinvenom9843
    @spittinvenom98436 ай бұрын

    Just acquired a 124060, it is iconic with proper vintage feel but a forward looking wear, a perfect blend and sublime to hold.

  • @connorwang3442
    @connorwang34424 жыл бұрын

    Hi, great video. You mentioned the 14600m has 2 version, 2 line and 4 line. What do you mean by that? Thanks. I m intending to get a 5 digit reference no cyclop so this video is very informative for me. Thanks

  • @MrChickster12
    @MrChickster124 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!! The video I needed....it’s on my list but confused 🤷🏻‍♂️, I need to saved which one!!!!

  • @vincentlui7733
    @vincentlui77334 жыл бұрын

    omg, this video is so great. Good work. I can see how much work you put into this. Thank you, Adrian. good research. If there's one Sub video you need to watch before purchasing, this is it!

  • @bennylok6087
    @bennylok60874 жыл бұрын

    Hi Adrian, Jz inform u forget mention about the dome shape glass for 5513 which really add the character making it the most popular sub. Currently I find a 5513 for myself. Is it wise to purchase a too beat up bezel ring given the price fits my wallet n later on replace it with the similar year range with a better condition?

  • @camptube7621
    @camptube76212 жыл бұрын

    I have the 116610LN and I truly love it. Understated and looks great in business or leisure wear. Instantly recognisable and a true classic.

  • @Wyrdrock
    @Wyrdrock3 жыл бұрын

    Would you mind comparing the bezel click action of the 14060 and the 114060? Do they feel different ect? Thanks!

  • @stuartclubb4302
    @stuartclubb43024 жыл бұрын

    Great overview. Ideal Submariner (best, for me) would be the 114060 face, hands (like the proportions) and ceramic bezel in the previous 14060m case (not a fan of the maxi) but with the bracelet upgrade. I'd also keep the SuperLuminova.

  • @paxjitjaruek2
    @paxjitjaruek22 жыл бұрын

    Hey Adrian! I have been trying out the 14060 (borrowed from a friend). This watch looks perfect and I fell in love with it since I first wore it. However, when I try to set the time in my friend’s 14060 it feels slightly different to what I feel when I set the time in my GMT. For the 14060, when I wind the crown up, the time goes backwards… This is the opposite in my GMT. Should my friend be worried?

  • @markmanning481
    @markmanning4814 жыл бұрын

    Hi Adrian. Another quality video and info. I've been thinking about a 14060 model and would like a 1991 year. Will the serial number tell me the year it was manufactured? With these older watches can you snorkel with them if they have new seals fitted. Keep up the great work. Mark

  • @joeplatz7289
    @joeplatz72894 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I agree and like the pre-maxi case much better. That being said I am jealous of the new bracelet. Also I do like the Maxi dial and hands. A big reason I picked up a Kermit.

  • @m60mgman
    @m60mgman4 жыл бұрын

    Bought my SubC Date 116610LN 3 years ago. I destroy watches, but this one has held up well, surviving a fall onto brick, dinging on metal as I do my daily activities: I don’t have to baby it. The band is strong and durable. For me, this watch is perfect. The fact that it’s worth more than I paid is icing on the cake.

  • @structurescience
    @structurescience4 жыл бұрын

    Hi, Adrian! Well, that may just be the most enjoyable video of yours that I've ever seen. Just love the Submariner. Bought myself a 114060 last summer. When I put him on my wrist every morning, he simply makes me happy. Just a little happiness that I otherwise wouldn't have. A little lift to my day that no one else knows about. I'm relatively new to wristwatches - less than 2 years trawling KZread watch channels - and from what I've seen so far, everyone ends up in vintage. But I'm not there (yet). The only sub I've handled is the ceramic. Maybe everything will change when I eventually hold a glistening, knee-wobbling 5-digit. But until then, I'm an engineer and my clinical beast (and I love how you call it that; he really is a beast) joins me faithfully in all I do: quiet, -0.3 seconds per day, brutishly reliable, stoically unfailing, resolute. And then I take him off before going to bed, wish him, "Goodnight," put him on his microfibre cloth to sleep, and switch off the light above him. :)

  • @robc8892

    @robc8892

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think of these as the last air cooled 911s

  • @michaelfierman3256
    @michaelfierman32564 жыл бұрын

    If I could afford one of these i'd want that the aluminum bezel model with the engraved rehaut. I love Kai's channel. I just have KZread auto translate the subtitles to English. he does brilliant videography guys. Great video Adran!

  • @WATCHVICE

    @WATCHVICE

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you !

  • @ormrudolf8042
    @ormrudolf80424 жыл бұрын

    I used the latest submariner for a time. But I changed it back to my 1680. I realy love this watch. By the way, watchvice is a great channel. I would appreciate very much a video about the very ealy GMT Master. Best regards from Hamburg, Germany

  • @barlow1973
    @barlow19734 жыл бұрын

    Excellent comparative review video. My choice is clear. The modern submariner is all one needs from a watch for daily use. It looks good, runs well, and is rugged and beautiful. What more could you ask for? Well, wait, date and cyclops are always wellcome.

  • @jacobvonloh69
    @jacobvonloh694 жыл бұрын

    Neo-Vintage Rolex with sapphire crystal and tritium lume is by far my favorite generation of Rolex! Great video bruv!

  • @DPCurtisSydney
    @DPCurtisSydney4 жыл бұрын

    Classic Bark and Jack (and I love it) Haven't tuned in for weeks and when I do, I see the title and I know I am home! Despite all the changes in the world, Adrian still loves his Rolex's, a two line 14060m is still a goal of mine and I love your work. Take care everyone....#thistooshallpass

  • @BarkandJack

    @BarkandJack

    4 жыл бұрын

    This shall pass indeed. 🙌🏻

  • @Billeh556
    @Billeh5564 жыл бұрын

    Hi Adrian the perfect sub for me is the 14060m with the Rolex in the rehaut or the two liner but really too bad doesn’t come with a SEL bracelet.

  • @adrianonast3599
    @adrianonast35994 жыл бұрын

    I remember almost buying a 2 line sub in 2007 and was surprised how flimsy the bracelet was when you considered the price. The current model matches the price asked at retail and the hype.

  • @Bradfordtruman

    @Bradfordtruman

    4 жыл бұрын

    the old bracelet is so comfortable for long term wear though

  • @gk77stuff51
    @gk77stuff514 жыл бұрын

    Adrian this was a great video, one of your best. Your very best was when you fell in the river in Scotland. For me 114060 wins hands down. Best looking rolex ever!!! I still love mine and never want to replace it.

  • @Wa-wk6qk
    @Wa-wk6qk3 жыл бұрын

    Nice video, glad you skipped the refs that hodinkee already covered. New content is always better! And video is well done as always. Btw, is there such a thing as a 14060 with maxi dial? Like with the 5513? Or only the small plots?

  • @drwindsurf
    @drwindsurf4 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video, thank you Adrian. Personally I love the lug holes of older subs - so much easier to change straps 😊👍

  • @BarkandJack

    @BarkandJack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lug holes! I should have mentioned the bloody lug holes. You’re right, I love them too.

  • @drwindsurf

    @drwindsurf

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@BarkandJack A missed B&J advertising opportunity 😂

  • @c0ugrhuntr
    @c0ugrhuntr4 жыл бұрын

    14060 was produced until 1999/00, while 14060m was produced from 2000/1 - 2009/10. They began using luminova around 1998/99 (swiss only dials) and super luminova came out around 2000, (swiss made dials). so, you have about a year gap when the 14060 could have come out of the factory on swiss made dial. my point being that even if your generalizations fit about 90% of 14060 cases, where swiss made dials are clearly service dials, there are certainly exceptions with some A serial and P serial 14060 productions coming out of the factory with swiss made dials.

  • @BarkandJack

    @BarkandJack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately with Rolex there are many exceptions. There’s very rarely a clean change in production. Movements, fonts, lume all change over time. I thought I’d just focus on the main changes.

  • @MRcrissoldier
    @MRcrissoldier3 жыл бұрын

    I always wanted to go inside a Rolex store. Although I am not buying this watch until 2024, should I still visit a store sooner? What should I expect inside? Is watch fitting allowed? How do you act inside? Do you say that you’re not buying right away?

  • @quentonlennon7233
    @quentonlennon72334 жыл бұрын

    I own the 14060M too (2 line version). I had no idea it was COSC certified. I thought that only applied to the 4 liner. Thanks for filling me in...!

  • @glenfitton2584

    @glenfitton2584

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have a 2002 14060M (2 line version). I have heard that the 2 line, pre 2007, version was COSC certified and I have heard that it was not certified. I wish knew for sure which was right. Very important for me to know.

  • @garywilson3904
    @garywilson39044 жыл бұрын

    Hi Adrian. Excellent video. Can you do a similar video for Pepsi gmt master variations. I can give you one of them.... no I can’t we are locked down🤔 after this crap clears up I can lend you vintage one.

  • @993mike
    @993mike4 жыл бұрын

    I've really hoping the new version slims the case lugs down and offers a satin finish ceramic bezel with an updated movement but the same excellent bracelet. I never swapped out my previous generation Submariner as I found the Maxi Case to look ungainly with the larger lug to bracelet interface looking like they were pared from two different watch models.

  • @itsalgud1459
    @itsalgud14594 жыл бұрын

    I am very worried about you Adrian, sinking so low as to use “Apple launch“ terminology! Seriously this is an excellent intro into the world of submariner‘s. Thanks a lot. 👍

  • @BarkandJack

    @BarkandJack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Haha. As an ex Apple employee, unfortunately most of their terms are deep engrained. #brainwashed

  • @thomaswong7198
    @thomaswong71984 жыл бұрын

    Is there any news on what are the changes in Rolex watches this year?

  • @cecedabo
    @cecedabo4 жыл бұрын

    best german-english colab since the queen

  • @ormrudolf8042

    @ormrudolf8042

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cédric Conter The Germans are ready to restart the colab 😉 All the best to the uk!

  • @humanbeing1675

    @humanbeing1675

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes. Well done 👍

  • @omarcardoso8426
    @omarcardoso84264 жыл бұрын

    Love this video about as much as I love my 14060m 2 Line ! Great info and fun to rewatch !

  • @ophiophagush.3926
    @ophiophagush.39264 жыл бұрын

    Nice vid, thanks mate. Personally I’d wait for the supposed new one with a 72hr power reserve?

  • @Leftystrat
    @Leftystrat3 жыл бұрын

    When you have a 7’5 inch wrist and had the 16600 the maxi case on the 114060 is a welcome relief. Fits sooo much better with a necessary glidelock. Lost me on that one jules

  • @Romio666

    @Romio666

    2 жыл бұрын

    Get an SD43, much better for your wrist. Oe even JC with easy fix glide lock without removing the watch from the wrist.

  • @mattstevens1820
    @mattstevens18204 жыл бұрын

    Why was the 4 line such a short production run? I've also read somewhere it's got the blue hair spring as well?

  • @glenfitton2584
    @glenfitton25843 жыл бұрын

    I also have a Rolex Submariner 2002 (no date) like yours. Are you saying that even though my watch does not say “certified chronometer”, it is COSC. Certified?

  • @drjoei
    @drjoei4 жыл бұрын

    Great breakdown of the different watches.

  • @Halfmoon67
    @Halfmoon674 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video Adrian ! Great detailed work as always !

  • @mdesmet9111
    @mdesmet91114 жыл бұрын

    I like the style of the vintage Subs but to me a dive watch needs to be tough and reliable, so the 114060 is the best for me. I also hate flimsy bracelets and clasps, and since a Sub belongs on a bracelet, that's another reason to go for the current version.

  • @tylerconlon1990
    @tylerconlon1990 Жыл бұрын

    @adrianbarker do you prefer the no date

  • @han5henman
    @han5henman4 жыл бұрын

    Just a note, Rolex did release dials that said "tritium" but had luminova instead. This was around 1997 when they were making the switch and are colloquially known as tritinova dials.

  • @BarkandJack

    @BarkandJack

    4 жыл бұрын

    I didn’t know that. But knowing Rolex, it doesn’t surprise me.

  • @fire_watch7735

    @fire_watch7735

    4 жыл бұрын

    You are correct. Ciao

  • @thorsten9437
    @thorsten94374 жыл бұрын

    "I usually use the bezel" *look on the wirst* ... damn Explorer ;-) Nice video as always! Cheers

  • @aglzm8
    @aglzm84 жыл бұрын

    How can we find more information on the ceramic shaterring?

  • @BarkandJack

    @BarkandJack

    4 жыл бұрын

    The best please is to search forums. The Rolex Forum and try Reddit. I’ve only met people who have shattered the bezel.

  • @daymondtalley9500
    @daymondtalley95004 жыл бұрын

    Great video. This helps with understanding the sub, thanks.

  • @TobiasStahelPhotographer
    @TobiasStahelPhotographer Жыл бұрын

    something similar about the gmt master from you would fit so great in my sunday morning youtube and capuccino routine:). the black bezel "vader" is my favourite. the only watch i own so far beside the iwatch for fitness. but i'd love to hear yor thoughts!

  • @Melvs15
    @Melvs154 жыл бұрын

    Missed the 14060 transitional with Luminova with “Swiss” only at 6. Was last run before the 14060m.

  • @chiliprepper7678

    @chiliprepper7678

    4 жыл бұрын

    That is the one. 👍😀

  • @yetidh9

    @yetidh9

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yep I had one of those and sold it. I'll always regret that.

  • @aaroncunningham5362

    @aaroncunningham5362

    4 жыл бұрын

    Have the date version with swiss only dial. Great watch. For me it's a good blend between modern and vintage

  • @Bradfordtruman

    @Bradfordtruman

    4 жыл бұрын

    yeah i’ve got one

  • @danreitz8864

    @danreitz8864

    4 жыл бұрын

    People are going to look back at this time and wonder why they didn't buy the Swiss only Rolexes. They don't really go for much of (if any) premium right now, but they will. Oh they will.

  • @garyschwarts4719
    @garyschwarts47193 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Adrian for this video ! Small question / remark: after some research, I understood that the sub 14060 was produced until 2001, Am I wrong? I am looking to buy a sub and I found a magnificent 14060 (Swiss made) from 2001. Do I have to question its authenticity?

  • @BarkandJack

    @BarkandJack

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Gary, the problem with old Rolex operation was there were very few clean cut changes. Many watches are called “transitional” as they might have one model number but actually contains components of another model number. So you could have a 14060 from 2001 with a 14060m dial.

  • @joshmaxwell7986
    @joshmaxwell79864 жыл бұрын

    I want to start my own company that helps people find their watch style based on their fashion needs and tastes. I love what @JenniElle said about watch companies marketing men's watches and women's watches differently and why women seem to sometimes be less interested in the watch industry because of that. Definitely something we need to change. Would love to see a video on what type of Rolex suits you best based on various Rolex styles. Cheers!

  • @danielfranks807
    @danielfranks8074 жыл бұрын

    Great info on the references. Thanks, Adrian!

  • @phmwu7368
    @phmwu73683 жыл бұрын

    2:12 In Dr No, actor Sean Connery wore a Rolex Submariner 6538

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