frustrating how often the Christian mindset is "some guy said a thing to me an I believed it immediately so anything I say is proof and truth too"

@VCXZ883

Жыл бұрын

What's worse is when they accuse nonbelievers of blind belief. Because that's a bad thing when we do it (and we don't).

@Gordoh20

Жыл бұрын

Dude it’s worse then that “ some guy told me something impossible he read from a book over 2000 years old ago and I believed it”

@twowardrobeswardrobes1536

Жыл бұрын

That is rarely the real reason though. They were brought up believing it. There’s no particular reason to think that it’s true but they have to come up with something … hence, “this book says a thing”.

@yep_2431

Жыл бұрын

they search for validation of what they already believe and throw out anything thing to the contrary

@psychedelicicecream3613

Жыл бұрын

The Christian mindset in general is frustrating

My husband had an out of body experience during an NDE when he had a heart attack. He said he floated above his body as doctors were working on him. He told me he saw me in the trauma room. Problem is, I wasn’t in the trauma room. I was at the check in desk.

"What's your evidence?" "There are hundreds of thousands." "Name one." "Hundreds of thousands."

@scambammer6102

Жыл бұрын

"Near death experience" does NOT mean dying and coming back to life. It means ALMOST dying. So everybody had that wrong. There have NOT been thousands of documented NDEs (much less tens of thousands), so the caller is just FOS (" From 1975 to 2005, some 2500 self reported individuals in the US had been reviewed in retrospective studies...with an additional 600 outside the US" - Wiki, NDEs). And the NDE experiences that are reported varied greatly.

@plainwhitepaper3898

Жыл бұрын

You see all the evidence everyday, but choose to believe the lie of where it came from. Can't deny that everything above ground came from below ground.

@hellshade2

Жыл бұрын

@@scambammer6102 also there is no evidence of supernatural causes in NDE's it is most likely they are caused by mere oxygen deprivation to the brain...

@hellshade2

Жыл бұрын

@@plainwhitepaper3898 would you care to repost that in plain English? you can even use plain white paper if you like, thxs!

@plainwhitepaper3898

Жыл бұрын

@@hellshade2 When you look in the mirror and you see the Glory of GOD'S creation, that is where you choose to ignore the evidence of TRUTH. All things above ground come from below ground. Buildings, cars, trees, etc come from below ground. GOD'S invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made. Even the first man. GENESIS 2:7 Man has an answer for creation; Evolution. But evolution does not explain the supernatural word that comes to my sub-conscience mind on a regular basis.

He's studied 100s of 1000's of stories, but can't be bothered with a single course in logic 101.

The ending is priceless. "You can't just say 'I don't know, therefore the supernatural'." "I can!" "[ ] I hope you have a wonderful Sunday, talk to you later."

@edboonsucks3218

Жыл бұрын

Yeah with minds like that, there's just no getting through to them, it's best to just move on.

@AzathothTheTrueGod

Жыл бұрын

@@edboonsucks3218 Why does Ed Boon suck? Is it something recent?

@FourDeuce01

Жыл бұрын

You can’t say that if you value your credibility.😜

@devilquill

Жыл бұрын

Yes, this caller demonstrates a perfect example of the Argument From Ignorance Fallacy.

@danielebortoluzzi

Жыл бұрын

@@devilquill and that he does not even understand it... 🙄

These are the REAL seven deadly sins. 1. Apathy 2. Cruelty 3. Duplicity 4. Hypocrisy 5. False morality 6. Abuse of power 7. Cultivated ignorance

@jamesparson

Жыл бұрын

Mayonnaise on a hot dog.

@captainnarwhal1064

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesparson You're thinking of the list of 7 complete and utter atrocities against nature itself.

@al1665

Жыл бұрын

I like how the names keep getting longer in scale. That's some mathematical s**t right there.

@funkatron101

Жыл бұрын

@@Mouse_007 You are violating #1. You monster!

@donavanj.1992

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesparson All of the above especially yours. 😂

How can this be a 53 year old adult? This is literally like listening to a child.

@tradergirljam

Жыл бұрын

Like most adults around me...I called them kidults.

@duncanbryson1167

Жыл бұрын

On that subject, I recently thought of a response to "What would it take for you to believe in God?". Me: "What would it take for you believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy?".

@CyberBeep_kenshi

Жыл бұрын

It really is embarrassing

@juliecobbina2024

Жыл бұрын

There seems to be a large group of Americans who all sound like this. They sound like they live in an enclosed environment and have the logic of a cardboard box 📦 and are so bigoted.

@kamion53

Жыл бұрын

how can thisguy be a 53 year old adult and sounds like a child arguing? years and years of training in circular reasoning.

"I have all the evidence why are you not convinced?" "Give the evidence then" "Why don't you believe me? You can find them everywhere!" "Give one" And nothing comes out of it

@CyberBeep_kenshi

Жыл бұрын

'If i give the evidence you won't believe it' 'I don't have to prove it' Etc. The excuses never end eh

@tedmoy

Жыл бұрын

😂😂

@timsmith530

Жыл бұрын

atheists do believe but no one can convince them that they do

@tiatrips

Жыл бұрын

@@CyberBeep_kenshi I had one Christian tell me that me not being a Christian invalidated me talking about it. I thought that was incredibly convenient to dismiss the alternate side of the argument.

@meonacid69

Жыл бұрын

He's just regurgitating what he heard somebody else say

Funny how a book that will fail if you question it has rules and threats of torture if you do question it.

@Mewse1203

Жыл бұрын

It is filled with "answers" to questions. "If they question it, they won't find the answer because God" and this is considered evidence? Well I am the King of England and if you question that, you won't find proof that I am because I have hidden it from you so you can't be sure.

@bellezavudd

Жыл бұрын

The Abrahamics are, if taken literally, a cartoon cult version of religion. But in the modern age Cartoon Cult Religion is clearly the most popular kind.

@bradgaines

Жыл бұрын

haha! Exactly!

@funkatron101

Жыл бұрын

A book that spends more time establishing rules for a very specific fight involving a wife grabbing the genitals of the opponent of her husband than it does establishing that slavery is emphatically wrong and immoral.

@nickydaviesnsdpharms3084

Жыл бұрын

Oh that's good! i'm making it into a meme right now.

If you find near death experiences as something profound then you also have to accept the 10s of thousands of alien abductions, Loch Ness monster sightings, Bigfoot encounters, etc etc etc....

@lucifers.morningstar3805

Жыл бұрын

Christians: B...bu...but... da bible not say anything bout dem.... sooo...sooo.... dey no realz.... not like talking snakes donkeys and bushes...

@deanlowdon8381

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! Yet the caller accepts NDE’s simply because they support what he already believes.

@bellezavudd

Жыл бұрын

Also he has to accept the GODS of other religions and cultures.

@robertdegruchy160

Жыл бұрын

NDE or even the concept of an afterlife do not correlate to the existence of a god. The wishful thinking and willful thing of some people is baffling...

"Those who search for signs won't find any" How convenient for christianity, that what you normally would do to find something doesn't work and therefore christianity is true. "It's a faith based religion" Exactly, that's is the problem.

@nagranoth_

Жыл бұрын

When he said that it was already clear they weren't going to get anywhere with him...

@marcusreading3783

Жыл бұрын

Wait, those who SEARCH wont find anything? But...I've been told over and over again to just search for God and I'll find him! Are you saying that those morons are, gasp, wrong?! SAY IT AINT SO! Alright, thats enough with the sarcasm. Its already thick enough to spread on my toast and I dont want to choke on it.

@mv8141

Жыл бұрын

If you don’t have flawed reasoning then you’ll never see it. If you don’t start from an illogical position then you won’t see it. Only garbage can start from that point.

@tornaperinso1484

Жыл бұрын

"God works in mysterious ways" was the off-the-shelf answer I got from my in-laws when I was asking them how could they believe in a God that does the terrible things that are described in the old testament, such as Job's bet or Abraham's sacrifice of Isaac and other genocides. Mind that the conversation started on this topic when they praised God for some of the accomplishments of my stepson, kind of dismissing his own efforts.

@RiiDIi

Жыл бұрын

If he had stopped at "It's a faith-based religion," I would have respected him. When you try to *prove* "faith-based" anything, that's literally a contradiction - an absurdity.

Doesn’t get more circular than that.

@dannyspitzer1267

Жыл бұрын

Round and round they go...

@KevinBelmontLuna

Жыл бұрын

The ouroboros is jelous at the circulation of this christian's reasoning.

@Truth-Be-Told-USA

Жыл бұрын

jesus was a failure or e fantasy. Either one.

@itomba

Жыл бұрын

Must be dizzying. Explains a lot.

@elevown

Жыл бұрын

Yup- this guy was Pi

"I've been a Christian all my life, starting from age 15." Bub, that isn't all your life.

@bellezavudd

Жыл бұрын

Maybe they should have asked him right there if he has a reliable memory, knows basic math, or knows when his life begun before moving on to more complex questions about God.

@0Fyrebrand0

Жыл бұрын

"I was born at a very young age."

This reasoning is so wonderfully circular, it's like a donut. It even has a nice big hole in the center!

@ashwayn

Жыл бұрын

it holy ha ha ha I think no Xion ever reads the bible in full

@EllasPOSEiDON

Жыл бұрын

Don't judge him, they don't know what circular reasoning means. :)

@tetsujin_144

Жыл бұрын

You know, a donut is like, extra-circular, 'cause it's circular in two different ways!

@twowardrobeswardrobes1536

Жыл бұрын

The best donuts have jam in the middle. Where’s the jam, Rodney. Show me the jam!

@EllasPOSEiDON

Жыл бұрын

@@twowardrobeswardrobes1536 Nnnnnooooo, custard in the middle. Vanilla custard.

4:13 - "Some of the people who had near-death experiences were not completely dead, they were maybe close to death, or nearly dead" Yes. "Near-death."

@Krikenemp18

Жыл бұрын

I had a good laugh at the caliber of that intellectual round.

@Gamefan86

Жыл бұрын

Yep, real clinical death means no brain activity, you can not be brought back from that.

"Floating outside your body" is an incredibly common experience in traumatic situations. It's called dissociation, which is a psychological term and is purely natural. Many people who have undergone an intensely traumatic event will express having "left their body" and watched it being abused from a third person view. This is theorised to be a way to emotionally distance yourself from something too overwhelming to handle. And no, you don't actually leave your body, you're still in there, your brain is just making you believe you're not. You can't trust your senses, the brain can be very wrong for various reasons If the person knows about a certain religion, it's natural for the subconscious to use that knowledge to make up a scenario. And if you know about the religion you can interpret it consciously afterwards as being attributed to that belief system Just felt like sharing for anyone who don't know about this psychological phenomenon! Wishing everyone a lovely day! :)

@bellezavudd

Жыл бұрын

Keep sharing .👍 There's always new individuals reading comments who arent aware of these type of psychological phenomena.

@kenchristie9214

Жыл бұрын

You can also have it when you are at your peak physically or mentally as was my experience. It is a sense of euphoria and well being. Jazz legend Cleo said that she knows she's singing well when she is standing beside herself watching her sing. In the late 60's, we referred to it as transcendental meditation and numerous people were trying to achieve the state through various illicit substances.

@bellezavudd

Жыл бұрын

@@kenchristie9214 That's odd that people would refer to a specific type of meditation completely unrelated to the actual phenomena. But not surprising I guess with the amount of mislabeling and misinformation floating around in the general public at any time.

@kdude491

Жыл бұрын

Very well said.

I'm really curious how he managed to separate the 10 percent of Afterlife claims as false from the 90 percent he claims are true.

@Gremriel

Жыл бұрын

Well, he's studied thousands and thousands of cases!

@Krikenemp18

Жыл бұрын

Easy, the ones that don't align with his preconceived notion of his personal religion are false!

@FakingANerve

Жыл бұрын

@@Gremriel or even HUNDREDS of thousands, depending on how long the conversation drags on with him.

@nicolab2075

Жыл бұрын

😂

@rcblazer

Жыл бұрын

Rodney claims thousands of people can't be wrong. I guess he's not familiar with the time drinking Radium water was a big thing where thousands believed it would "cure your ails, makes you feel younger, ect." then it was later revealed to be toxic and deadly.

Let's take a shot every time he cites "tens of thousands" of accounts.

@Gamefan86

Жыл бұрын

Later in the convo it became hundreds of thousands😄

This is a 53 year old human being that has never had to think critically in his entire life. Terrifying.

@ReddFoxx1562

Жыл бұрын

That's a bit hyperbolic, to be honest.

@elevown

Жыл бұрын

Well- maybe he did have to now and then- but he surely failed at it lol.

@ReddFoxx1562

Жыл бұрын

@@elevown My point is that making absurd blanket statements like that so flippantly is what theists do on a regular basis to bolster their faith. Doing the same is just as foolish.

@corybanasiak

Жыл бұрын

@@ReddFoxx1562 we got a pretty good idea of how this man thinks based on his “arguments” during this call. I don’t think it’s hyperbolic to say he’s not much of a thinker lol

@ReddFoxx1562

Жыл бұрын

@@corybanasiak Do you know what "hyperbole" is? You're making a judgment of this person's LITERAL entire life based on a ten minute phonecall. You haven't ruled out things like brain injury so technically you are incorrect and you were just trying to get easy attention.

Many of the NDE's described conform to what the person who experienced them expected to see, i.e. Christians see god, Hindus see various gods, etc. Usually conforming to what religion they were raised in, as it is deep seated in their subconscious.

@boblangford5514

Жыл бұрын

The caller’s response to this fact was, “Nuh uh!”

@FakingANerve

Жыл бұрын

@@boblangford5514 Along with "Well, those who saw a different god than than the one I believe in are the ~10% that aren't real."

@joemiller7082

Жыл бұрын

This is *exactly* what I just said. Haha.

@Annie_Annie__

Жыл бұрын

@@boblangford5514 I’ve heard preachers claim that a Hindu person or a Buddhist person had an NDE, and they saw a bright light and then a man with long brown hair who said his name was Jesus and that they were living their life following the wrong religion and should follow Him and His church. They were being given a 2nd chance and should also convert their family and friends. Then they wake up and do exactly that. When I first deconverted it was one of the first things I looked up because it was so ingrained in my head. It will surprise no one that I couldn’t find any firsthand evidence of that ever happening. Only Christian blogs relating it as a story. Anyway, I fully expected this guy to tell one of those stories, but say that there’s hundreds or thousands of cases of it happening, lol.

@valivali8104

Жыл бұрын

Adults see dead friends and family members in their NDEs; children see still living friends and family members in their NDEs 🤔

Studying NDE : watching KZread testimonies about near death expérience.

"Near death" means "still alive". So they are actually SAE's, something we have all the time, while we are alive.

@Gamefan86

Жыл бұрын

Yep, you can not be brought back from real clinical death without brain activity.

@abc456f

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. If someone is declared dead and five days go by, his body begins to decompose and on the sixth day he suddenly comes back to life and has a story to tell, then we might have something to look at. "Near" death isn't death.

I would have asked him, “How long did it take you to read those thousands of testimonies?” I’m sure whatever answer he gives would reveal that he has not, in fact, read that many testimonies.

@scambammer6102

Жыл бұрын

I would have just said "I don't believe you. Name one."

If theists have faith, why are they resorting to pseudo-evidence as their experience when we're asking for evidence.

@lovingbeast5045

Жыл бұрын

Good question, the reason they have to scramble to pseudo-evidence is a two part answer I believe. 1.) Faith by a definition is a belief of something that is unseen so they may not understand what a good idea of what evidence actually is as they have conditioned themselves to accept their feelings as evidence. 2.) This unseen thing is a fantasy so since they need to prove this fantasy what better way to prove a fantasy than with more fantasies and faulty reasoning as that is what convinced them to become a theist in the first place. (If they weren't just automatically born into the theology in the first place) I hope I answered your question correctly, although hey, I am open to any better answers with some evidence?

@Krikenemp18

Жыл бұрын

@@lovingbeast5045 I think they experience cognitive dissonance between relying on evidence for most other things in their daily lives, and the Bible telling them not to expect or look for evidence, so they rationalize by claiming evidence is optional but provide the best they have anyway (which often amounts to fallacies and appeals to emotion rather than actually evidence).

@lovingbeast5045

Жыл бұрын

@@Krikenemp18 Great idea! While my answer focuses more on the causes of cognitive dissonance your idea focuses more on the effects. :)

@jamesparson

Жыл бұрын

They don't want to commit social suicide.

@lovingbeast5045

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesparson Most life forms don't want to do this, that's why they preserve themselves. Yet, by falsely believing in these fantasies they view any challenge against the fantasy as a threat to the theists' identities. Thus this cognitive dissonance is compounded into an insane shock value. If only we could mitigate this extreme assault by offering them a better community in which they could learn to let go of their fantasies in comfort. A safe place for them to understand what life is supposed to be about? Oh that's right this was supposed to be school! Yet, with all of the theists corrupting the curriculum this is tough.

Rodney: “I first encountered this show a few months ago and I’m calling to see what it’s about.” So in a few months you haven’t been able to figure out what the show is about?🤡 Here’s your sign.

So the religion literally doesn't want you to look for evidence and literally states you won't find evidence.... So basically it admits it's nonsense. That's 'roll credits' right there.....

@lovingbeast5045

Жыл бұрын

Oh no! Remember though this is THE PERFECT WORDS OF GOD... Shame on you for forgetting that bit. THEN it turns into nonsense and junkfood for the brain. Yet, I find it funny that this god seems so powerful but still cannot seem to type for itself? This is rather depressing really.

@CyberBeep_kenshi

Жыл бұрын

@@lovingbeast5045 lol yes. Or iron out the hundreds of contradictions, even after 2000 years they still can't decide on the last words of jesus...... even if there was one.... can't be 3 different versions at once. But they can all be wrong

@Eriknorth87

Жыл бұрын

If an ideology tells you to not go looking for evidence then it’s 100% guaranteed Bulls**t

@TheTruthKiwi

Жыл бұрын

I love how he immediately starts listings "signs" strat after saying you don't need signs

@CyberBeep_kenshi

Жыл бұрын

@@TheTruthKiwi mr contradiction 🤣

"This thing happened a bunch of times - it must have been Jesus". Great job, scientist.

I've had two near death experiences. Once from loss of blood due to a gun shot and the other was from a car wreck. Both of my near death experiences felt like a dream and it basically was. I didn't see a light or I wasn't floating above my body, my brain was losing oxygen and started to lose brain cells, that's all. The brain is weird and does weird stuff.

@vizzini2510

Жыл бұрын

@Lrr_Of_Omikron As comedian Bob Nelson said many years ago, "The mind is a terrible thing."

@CyberBeep_kenshi

Жыл бұрын

Good you're still here

@al1665

Жыл бұрын

@@CyberBeep_kenshi Are we?

@Mouse_007

Жыл бұрын

yep, I experienced the same thing. Like a dream.

@bengsynthmusic

Жыл бұрын

That's crazy. Although mine wasn't as intense, I've come close to what felt like a 5% health bar in a hospital as a kid. While the medical staff were working on me, I was in a semi-conscious state and I briefly hallucinated the presence of some dark smoky entity in the room.

As Matt brought up in a previous episode, NDEs resemble the afterlife as imagined by the individual. There is not a universal NDE that everyone agrees can only point to one religion. Caller's proof was DOA which is ironic.

@freakyzed8467

Жыл бұрын

@@festerreloaded2690 and you are lying. That's not what the OP said. He said NDEs that point to a common religion. Learn the English language.

@ajclements4627

Жыл бұрын

@@festerreloaded2690 “Try to stop lying and do the research” The F irony in that statement.

@legionleschyzophrene4929

Жыл бұрын

@@ajclements4627 Fester is a massive joke.

@ajclements4627

Жыл бұрын

You won’t present evidence for your “easily proven” god Festy, you can only lie, ignore, and deflect.

@jaclo3112

Жыл бұрын

@@festerreloaded2690 yeah. NDEs are common among all religions. And therein lies thr problem. If NDEs are supposed to be evidence of an afterlife, then say a Hindu having an NDE where Vishnu appears to them proves jesus was a liar.

"Can you give us an example?" "There are so many, just thousands." "Can you give us one? The best example?" "I've read about all of them. So many. Lots of people think this." JFC

I had a dream once. I was in a train with mummy and daddy was the train driver. The train went into a tunnel and mummy left me and came back covered in milk. At one point I heard mummy shouting "Oh Jesus" so now I believe in Jesus. Case proven.

@easterlake

Жыл бұрын

That wasn't milk.

@boblangford5514

Жыл бұрын

@@easterlake It was ectoplasm!

@bellezavudd

Жыл бұрын

@@boblangford5514 Erectoplasm.

@johnengland8619

Жыл бұрын

I'm parched. My mouth is as dry as a mummy's pocket

I'd never been in a flight in my life but one day someone REALLY annoyed me. I got him down on the ground and drew back to give him an almighty kick. I woke up howling because I'd kicked the brick wall my bed was against 😩. I'd a sore foot for a couple of days. That's how convinced I was the dream was a real experience. Similar to an NDE?

@Krikenemp18

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention that your brain is necessarily functioning abnormally while on the verge of death.

@thegrouchization

Жыл бұрын

I have a very distinct memory of waking up halfway down the stairs of a hotel I was staying in, then running back up into my hotel room and getting back into bed. Which is more likely? 1: I somehow managed to unlock a door and safely traverse a flight of stairs in a building that I had no familiarity with, all while asleep (having no history of sleepwalking before or since). Or 2: I had a particularly vivid dream.

@carrollknipe3902

Жыл бұрын

Most of the NDE are fruitcakes that don’t want reality to mess with their delusions.

@oscarantoniomoreno5247

Жыл бұрын

@@thegrouchization Christian: " I pick no.3".

@internetidiot4206

Жыл бұрын

I almost was convinced that I (at age 15) was married to a spider because I dreamt it and it somehow felt so realistic. I now know that I am not married to a spider if you are wondering.

NEAR DEATH doesn't ever mean DEAD!

@jimcarlson6157

Жыл бұрын

I know. I had a near sex experience and it just wasn't the same

I can walk by a hospital, any tall building, and give you a fairly accurate description of the roof.

@memitim171

Жыл бұрын

I don't even have to walk past it as they are generally much of a muchness, funny how the claim is never "On the north-western most air vent "Harry loves Sally" is scratched into the east facing side in the bottom left corner" (along with proof they've never been within 100 miles of the building before ofc) or something equally specific and equally unvisible from anywhere that isn't right next to it, it's always something anyone would have a fairly decent chance of just guessing or seeing from various vantage points...

The plural of anecdote is not data.

@80slimshadys

Жыл бұрын

That's a good line

17 years of this show and people still call in not knowing the difference between a claim and evidence.

@happyninja42

Жыл бұрын

because their religious upbringing has generationally conditioned them to avoid critical thinking, genuine reflection, and only taught them to blindly obey their teachings, and that shit like "faith is all you need" "Don't question, don't doubt, just believe and tithe, that's all geezus needs of you. To do otherwise is to risk damnation, and you don't want that little sheep do you? "

@John-uk8eo

Жыл бұрын

I know right. You have to wonder why a group of people who don't have any idea what they are talking about would host a show.

@John-uk8eo

Жыл бұрын

@@sideboob6851 Why? Would you go to a mechanic for an upper respiratory infection? Or maybe to a podiatrist for an oil change?

@peterjohansson4442

Жыл бұрын

@@John-uk8eo Which show do you mean?

@Locust13

Жыл бұрын

That's a neat name you have

Jim is a debunking machine! Rodney brought a stale peanut to a lightsaber battle, lol.

“I believe because I believe.” Well good luck with that. I don’t believe because I don’t believe… now what?

@hellohandsome9875

Жыл бұрын

Now you're right and believers are wrong,,,,, simple

@Gamefan86

Жыл бұрын

"Don't stop believing." Journey -

Ah, it's the classic "ignorance = knowledge" argument, where they try to somehow turn "I don't know" into "therefore I DO know it's X". Good ol' God of the gaps strikes again!

I've heard that some hospitals put a specific item somewhere high that can't be seen from anywhere in the room. When a person has a NDE, they are asked did they see this item, the answer is no.

He’s got a point. Once you believe in one imaginary friend, there’s no logical reason to not believe in the rest of them.🤡 Rodney: “But jesus did say that….” Rodney, don’t you know that before you quote your imaginary friends, you need to prove they exist.🙈

This caller is one of the reasons I left religion many years ago.

Straight out of a Monty Python skit, medieval peasants prepare to hang a pretty lady accused of being a witch. Knights of the Round Table appear. Knight: "How do you KNOW she's a witch?" Peasant #1: "She has a carrot for a nose!!" Knight rips off carrot held on pretty lady's face by a string and fixes Peasant #1 with a "Try again, fool" look. Peasant #2: "She put a spell on me and I DIED!!" Raised eyebrows all around. Peasant #2, now somewhat embarrassed: "I got better..." And then we have Rodney from Michigan, insisting "maybe NEARLY dead" qualifies as a near-death experience. I guess Rodney also got better.

@DCronk-qc6sn

Жыл бұрын

The spirit of the scene but many errors - newt is funny, not death. Or biscuits....

@krisaaron5771

Жыл бұрын

@@DCronk-qc6sn It's what was ON the biscuits and where they were found... Please forgive the errors. My grandbrats stole my Holy Grail DVD. Is nothing sacred??

@DCronk-qc6sn

Жыл бұрын

@@krisaaron5771 No Grail DVD?!??! How do you face the day?!?? Also, my favorite, "Help, help, I'm being repressed!" I hope all is well with you and yours!🙂

@krisaaron5771

Жыл бұрын

​@@DCronk-qc6sn Everything is terrific! We're living in what sees to be the one place in America where it's not catching fire or flooding. The Knights of the Round Table would be pleased (so would the killer rabbit).

@DCronk-qc6sn

Жыл бұрын

@@krisaaron5771 Likewise! The Great Lakes are taking care of us. Peace.

Faith= My friend Cindy "told me" she just bought a new car. I have no reason to believe that she would ever lie to me, therefore I believe (not know) that she bought a new car. Evidence= My friend Cindy just bought a new car. I was with her at the dealership when she made the purchase. I even rode home with her in her brand new car. Faith= You believe (not know) there is a God. Evidence= You either refuse to show it or you don't have any. I think the latter is more probable.

It's often painful hearing someone who has never had their beliefs challenged by themselves or another call in, but it is also exciting as it could be the start of them learning.

It would be great to have a course covering the different uses of the words "evidence", "believe", "know" and "claims" relating to how various religions or religious leaders use those words.

My oxygen starved brain saw it.....so it has to be true.

@Gamefan86

Жыл бұрын

"I flew out of my body, it's not a dream or a halucination, it's supernatural." 😂🤣

What a very slow individual. The fact he felt equipped to prove god is a great mirror of the human condition.

@kai_plays_khomus

Жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more.

The next time someone calls in and talks about souls, I'd really like the hosts on the show to ask where a soul's intelligence lies. Where are its memories stored? And if it has a "brain" why do we need a physical one? Would such callers agree to have their brains removed, and see how they get on?

@tornaperinso1484

Жыл бұрын

Additionally, at what point did a soul became part of our body in evolutionary terms? did a homo erectus without a soul suddenly gave birth to a homo erectus with a soul? Was the fetus with a soul inside of a mother without a soul? and how did that feature got predominant among all individuals, was there a time where "souled" and "souless" individuals were living in the same community? The whole thing is preposterous.

@memitim171

Жыл бұрын

Bit late for that...

Ok Rodney....

The NDE claim he's talking about where someone claimed to have seen something on top of a hospital has already been debunked. When people came to investigate it turned out you could see the rooftop from a vantage point inside the hospital. Also the person who documented the claimed NDE only released it more than 5 years after the person she claimed to interview was supposed to have the NDE. But when people tried to find her to interview her themselves, no one could find her.

@agent_277

Жыл бұрын

I mean I have dreamed about zombies several times. Does that therefore mean that zombies actually exist? Just because I saw them, heard them and I could actually "feel" how they touched me? 😂 (sarkasm)

@jaclo3112

Жыл бұрын

@@agent_277 oh lawdy. I used to have a recurring nightmare that zombies were chasing and killing me. They would catch me and I would feel horrible pain as they bit into my body and tore my limbs off. And when I woke up my muscles would hurt. The dreams caused me physical pain. Due to underlying issues from being beaten and stabbed during an attempted rape, I often had dreams I was being hurt or killed. Had to go to a shrink to learn how to deal with it. Fuck the dreams were so realistic. Fortunately I haven't had them in over a decade.

He hasn’t actually studied it. If he had he’d know about the numerous experiments into NDE that have never shown any of the claims to have any basis in fact.

@MunkyDrag0n

Жыл бұрын

"Studied" = looked for obscure sources on the internet confirming your own biases

@Krikenemp18

Жыл бұрын

His "studying" probably amounts to reading no deeper than some personal accounts and extrapolating by a few orders of magnitude.

@AzathothTheTrueGod

Жыл бұрын

He heard about it from someone else. He couldn’t give anything.

@scambammer6102

Жыл бұрын

or he'd at least be able to discuss a specific case

“No, that can’t be true because I’d be wrong.”

@Gamefan86

Жыл бұрын

Every spiritard ever 😂🤣

Does Rodney know that people dream all the time when sleeping? The mind makes stuff up every single night lol.

Given that a quick search found that between 1975 and 2006 there are a total of about 3,500 documented cases of NDEs across 55 studies in the US as part of research, Rodney’s claim of studying thousands puts him easily as one of the top experts in the field, with deep knowledge of all known US studies. Wow!! That such an expert called in is a testament to the show! Unless his cases are different, in which case why is he not sharing all this quality research with his colleagues in psychology circles!

Anytime there is a partial and a double face palm in the screenshot, you know that it's going to get interesting.

Classic case of believing incredulity is evidence. Guy actually called personal testimony "insurmountable". He's been taught what to think, not how to think.

Now I get it: all claims are evidence for themselves. Thanks, Rodney.

I seem to remember a real experiment where teams of surgeons and nurses around the country/worl made signs to put on the tops of cabinets that were not observable from the ground... none of these out of death experiences ever, not ever mentioned these signs,.,.. and when they are on top of the hospitals, maybe they can tell us the names of the compressors and a/c units on top of these hospitals...

We know our brains release powerful hallucinogens when stressed or when unconscious. Some say it's to help us cope with the process of dying.

Christy, you and Jim are awesome man, keep spreading logic ✌💪

Finally!!! Back in the studio! Thank you! I was actually wondering if the show was going to ever get back to a studio presentation vs everyone streaming from their homes. I hope this is a trend.

Neuroscience already explains all the near death experience phenomenon. People just need to read up upon it.

@Sherralyn

Жыл бұрын

Well yeah..Rodney has hundreds of thousands of times 🤣

Nobody who has studied 100s of 1000s of documents on any topic talks about it the super vague way he does with not one specific example The closest he gets to specification is "my buddy said..."

@boblangford5514

Жыл бұрын

It was obvious that he was lying when saying he studied thousands of cases. He probably heard of about a dozen that confirm to his beliefs, and just exaggerated from there.

@CyberBeep_kenshi

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, trying to claim authority. Also adding really quickly stuff like 'they have no reason to lie'...... This was some made up bull

@rbname7318

Жыл бұрын

It’s like talking to a child

@Gamefan86

Жыл бұрын

"I saw that youtube video".

@boblangford5514

Жыл бұрын

@@rbname7318 When he confirms that he doesn’t understand why appealing to popularity is fallacious, it really is like talking to a child.

Over 50 years old and thinks like someone who still believes in Santa. How sad.

@Gamefan86

Жыл бұрын

God is pretty much Santa Claus for adults, just way more insane.

No one has ever been able to learn information being discussed in another room during a NDE…

@deanlowdon8381

Жыл бұрын

@Raggedy Hobo Exactly, there have been plenty of opportunities to prove out of body experiences to be real, and it’s never happened.

The fact that all of the events described here that are happening to these patients, like rising up to the ceiling and even floating above the hospital. Should tell us that their memories are dodgy. Why are there no memories of going sideways, down into the basement or even going across the street to the coffee shop?

You guys handled this way better than a few other videos I've seen and this was an interesting topic

I have seen dozens of Dracula movies Dracula is real.

Love the way you approach callers Christy.

Caller: "I believe in god because of Jesus" "Excuse me caller, but there's a mister Circle on the line who'd like to speak with you about patent infringement."

He was just convinced that he could not be wrong.

Of all the visions of the afterlife, only about 2-3 percent are of hell. This is rather amazing as the road to heaven is supposed to be "narrow". It makes sense that most religious people would personally think they themselves must be bound for their religions heaven, even if they also believe practically everyone else is due for hell. This really does seem to indicate NDEs are just brain chemistry gone awry from near death trauma!

@CyberBeep_kenshi

Жыл бұрын

Hypoxia, lots of hormones, probably some damage or epilepsy. The real miracle would be if nothing happened

The idea that a personal experience can be supernatural is fallacious at the outset. The thoughts happening in your head cannot justify an external truth.

Jim is just being brilliant as always! Christy too.....!

I had a dream, so there’s gotta be an afterlife

@suatustel746

Жыл бұрын

Bill you're close what have l been speculating dream life. Ou still bite of a cherry another realm or dimension, I always wonder comatose patients and their dream activities

@Gamefan86

Жыл бұрын

It's like people taking DMT believing they talked with aliens in other dimemsions 😂🤣🤦🏻

People that are looking for a sign will never find it ! ? what about ; Seek and you shall find.

@jayrose8638

Жыл бұрын

That’s the beauty of the bible. If you don’t like what one verse says, just keep looking. You’ll find something that says the opposite eventually.

Fun fact: If you look at data related to Near Death Experiences. People always seem to see the afterlife of the religion they believe in. Muslims see Allah, Christians see Jesus, Buddhists see energy etc...

Love the way Christy Powell is speaking and talking. Clear Voice and sentences on Point.

Yes, Christians know they're right, because of NDEs were people met J.C. or saw hell or some such. I'm Israeli. Every Rabbi who tries to get ppl to repent, has NDEs were ppl saw things that prove Judaism is true. And if you look on KZread, Islamic apologists have NDEs proving the truth of Islam. And, of course, they all have ways of explaining away the NDEs of other faiths, but never their own. Can you say "special pleading"?

Why couldn't this person get it thru his thick skull that the number of people making a claim does not prove his conclusion that there's a god? Funny how many times a theist will simply be unable to say "I don't know", instead of "it's god".

I remember my wife worked as a theatre nurse in Victoria infirmary, Glasgow and she told me way back in the early '80's that they were putting objects(a red shoe was one of them) and cards with strange symbols on them( sounds like zener cards) high up and recessed above the operating table to "see if when people said they died,floated up and came back to life could identify those objects" So it's not as if this hasn't been taken seriously by science/ psychologists.

"I am against religion because it teaches us to satisfied with not understanding the world." - Richard Dawkins

You can always disregard any arguments which cite the figure of 90%, it's just a way of saying "I'm right".

@AlexPBenton

Жыл бұрын

That’s only true 90% of the time

@ritawing1064

Жыл бұрын

@@AlexPBenton 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Argument from Authority: I am the authority having read thousands of cases. Believe me.

It just never ceases to amaze me that some people might use such reasoning (or lack of therein) to teach their children to think the same way. It is really no different to teaching them about closet or under the bed monsters or Santa Claus

Plus you have the scientific studies that set out to test NDEs that showed that people weren't leaving their body and seeing things they weren't supposed to be able to see.

On this subject there was a debate between Scientists and believers in the soul. (The believers included the person who invented the term NDE.) it is one of the intelligence squared debates and the subject was “is death final?” The scientists objectively wiped the floor with the NDE proponents.

Listen Jim, he has a book full of stories and he read some firsthand accounts. Rock solid evidence to me.

"I believe that there is enough evidence to believe" "what is that evidence?" "I believe there is evidence." "but do you have any evidence?" "I think its out there"

Rodney describes how an NDE can't possibly be the result of a drug trip by perfectly describing the effects of a drug trip. Experiencing the feeling of being outside your body is a not uncommon side effect of potent hallucinogens.

And another delusional theist (redundant, I know) falls flat on their face......

A perfect circle: The supernatural exists because NDE, NDE is supernatural because NDE. I am a very very expert on NDE I have studied thousands of then therefore the Supernatural exist. Mummy told me and she don't lie.

There has been experimenting with near death experiences where patients claim they were floating around the room but they were unable to describe or pinpoint some specific item in the room so that has been disproven.

Rodney: “just accept and adopt my naïveté, and you’ll believe my ‘shot-full-of-holes’ reasoning too Jim.”

I think part of the problem is that the caller didn't really understand why the hosts weren't just accepting the claims. An example I would have given would have been something like lightning. For a long time it was considered supernatural, and even when you take a naturalistic approach, I assume one of the earliest conclusions was: rain causes lightning, but then you have to ask: "Why doesn't all rain cause lightning?" "Why does lightning sometimes happen without rain?" And that's how you begin ruling stuff out, or having a placeholder conclusion that you accept can be disproven later on

@scambammer6102

Жыл бұрын

they did give that example

@Fernando-ek8jp

Жыл бұрын

@@scambammer6102 they gave one somewhat similar that didn't click with the caller

Santa Claus was seen at the north pole last night. LOL his invisible body apparently appeared in plain sight

The plural of anecdote is not data!

People's description of out-of-body experiences almost always match the tradition/religion they come from, and what they would expect based on what they have learned. That alone is more than enough to call bullshit. Why don't unconscious christians experience things from hindu traditions and vice versa?

@boblangford5514

Жыл бұрын

The caller’s response to this was, “Nuh uh!”

@anthonyharty1732

Жыл бұрын

Yes, you are right.

@bellezavudd

Жыл бұрын

Keyword here is UNCONCIOUS. Meaning completely unaware of anything. And im not talking about NDES.

The caller has invested so much time into "researching" NDEs and believing what he believes that it's going to be hard for him to reconsider his position. That sucks.

@scambammer6102

Жыл бұрын

he doesn't want to reconsider