It's been a privilege to experience the world of Rocky with you all, thank you for coming along! And special thanks to Chris and Curtis for constantly calling me out about not ever seeing it 😆

@shawnm4189

7 ай бұрын

Next up: Creed 1. Rocky is in it.

@PaulP020383

7 ай бұрын

There is a deleted scene with Paulie and rocky talking about Adrian that was deleted. It’s a must watch… never know why they never kept that in the movie.

@shawnm4189

7 ай бұрын

​@@PaulP020383 If Stallone does a directors cut I hope he puts that scene in it.

@scottvivian9859

7 ай бұрын

Thank you for your great channel 👍

@commsense1979

7 ай бұрын

You asked "why?" when you saw Adrian's tombstone... Without him losing her, there's no need for this film, or the Creed movies.

Fun fact: The final fight was filmed during an actual event (with other, real fights). None of the fans there knew Rocky was going to come out, and he got the biggest cheers that night (more than any of the real fighters). That moment at the end when he’s emotional and the fans were chanting was genuinely Stallone emotional at the fans’ adoration of Rocky.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

How amazing is that??? I love it!

@kennethfinnegan2978

7 ай бұрын

He’s right. If you pause the movie, you can see the banners hanging in the rafters of the actual fight taking place that night. Also, the Mason Dixon character is actually a real professional boxer and if you pause the movie of him fighting in the buildup, you can see his real name on his trunks.

That speech that Rocky gives Robert is so fucking good. It's one of those speeches that I think every teenager/college student needs to hear at least once a month while they're still in school. So many people fall into that mindset of when they fail at something they start looking for something/someone to blame rather than learn from that experience, grow and then to try again. I've caught myself doing the blame thing before realizing the problem was me and getting my mind right again. It's one of my favorite scenes in the entire Rocky/Creed franchise.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

Very much so! I regret being a little tough on Robert, I think his feelings were pretty natural, and losing his mother who was kind of the glue for the whole family? Makes sense.

I love every second of Paulie’s performances in the series. RIP Burt Young, a real Marine boxer, btw

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

I don't like the character, as a person, but the performance is top notch. He's doing exactly what he's supposed to as a character, and I think this one is his best.

@cripplermaximus

7 ай бұрын

@@RhetoricalThrillI think his arc would be a little more complete if they included this deleted scene: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h5ubmLB9qNqtdpc.htmlsi=1EgeDFfxH8kHGNf7

@Roadghost1969

7 ай бұрын

@@RhetoricalThrill My take on Paulie... Yes, Paulie reminds me of that person who has many deep issues and helps you out for some reason and they grow on you?? And you know they (Paulie) can have a big heart. I assume Paulie and Adrian lost their parents at a young age. I am thinking Adrian is Paulie's Baby sister and Paulie probably had to care for Adrian for sometime, resents missing out on much of his youth but does not realize what a great thing he did he kept his family together, raised a great woman, pushed his sister to a marry great man. Losing parents young probably messed him up (drinking). I am thinking he did not have many friends and was never told by anyone that he is doing a good thing raising his sister (positive reinforcement can help shape you). Rocky knew Paulie from the bar, Rocky seems to take an interest in everyone and loves being a "Fixer"for people. It took me a while to figure this out over the years after seeing the first Rocky in the theater back in 1976 as a six year old kid.

@Metzwerg74

7 ай бұрын

there are pictures of paulie in marine uniform on the walls in the first rocky... i always thought, that his duty had a part in making him so bitter..

@shadow7112

7 ай бұрын

You should see the deleted scenes. Especially the extended ally way scene after Paulie get laid off

The first two Creeds are worth it. Slys best acting was in the first Creed. He's definitely a main character. You won't be disappointed. In fact you be mad at yourself for ever thinking that you should skip the Creeds. The Creeds are really Rocky movies.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

Ooh, I do like the sound of that!

@didonna1974

7 ай бұрын

@@RhetoricalThrill Sly won the golden globe for Creed and was nominated for an academy award for Creed. It's a beautiful movie.

@SlyFan-lw1bg

7 ай бұрын

Yes! Creed and Creed 2 are a must watch. Rocky goes through so much more stuff, and Sly actually co-wrote the second one! Don't bother with the third one though, Rocky isn't in it. But definitely watch one and two!@@RhetoricalThrill

@LukeLovesRose

7 ай бұрын

Best acting was in Creed? Why? Because he got an award? No. IMO, his best acting was in Rocky Balboa, especially when he gives his son that speech / lecture

@havok6280

7 ай бұрын

​@@SlyFan-lw1bgdisagree. I liked Creed 3. Completes Donnie's story. They are not Rocky movies. Rocky is the Mickey in those movies.

This was the last movie I saw in theaters with my late dad, a couple years before he passed away. He was Stallone's age, and you could tell it really resonated with him. Miss ya, pop.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

I’m sorry you had to say goodbye to your dad 💜

Talia Shire signed on for this but then Stallone realised Adrian needed to be dead for Rocky's purpose. He said it was awful having to call her and tell her she was getting killed off but she got it, and gave him her blessing. And he's right. Talia still got paid lol.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

She sounds like a class act, and hey, free money doesn't hurt! 😂

@mcgilj1

7 ай бұрын

Plus.. You can still see her in "The Godfather".. I actually would have loved to have seen more of her in the third film, I know people hate it.. But her character change in that film.. wow.. If you want to see her more in a Rocky for 80s kids.. Check out "Rad". Her husband produced it.

@johnchitwood8799

3 ай бұрын

​@@mcgilj1I believe she had also been given a part in one of the Amityville movies, Burt Young played the DeFeo father who got killed in Amityville 2

"What is it you said to the kid? It ain't about how hard you're hit, it's about how you can get hit and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward. Get up!" Fun Fact: Pedro Lovell reprises his role as Spider Rico, the boxer defeated by Rocky in the opening scene of Rocky (1976). Authentic Battle Damage Fact: The bout between Rocky and Dixon was filmed with actors Sylvester Stallone and Antonio Tarver really hitting one another. According to Stallone, not a single punch in the fight was pulled and every hit on film was a hit for real. Furthermore, Stallone has revealed that the scene where Rocky is knocked down for a 9 count, and is trying to get to his feet by taking hold of the rope, but is having difficulty focusing on it, is completely genuine; Tarver really did knock him down, and he really couldn't get up. Location Location Fact: During preproduction, as the filmmakers tried to find a good location to shoot the fight, they met with constant obstacles - every suitable arena was booked out. Sylvester Stallone knew that HBO had an upcoming PPV event with Bernard Hopkins taking on Jermaine Taylor in the main event, at the Mandalay Resort and Casino in Las Vegas. Stallone suggested that the film could piggyback the real event, using the real HBO format, the real crowd, even the real press conference setup. As such, the press conference scene was shot only moments after the real press conference with Hopkins and Taylor, whilst the scene when Rocky walks through the curtain and down to the ring was shot using the real Hopkins/Taylor crowd. Stallone was hoping that the crowd wouldn't boo or cause any problems, but as he made his way to the ring (as Rocky), the whole building gave him a standing ovation and began a "ROCKY, ROCKY" chant. The crowd was never told to stand up or to chant - they had done it completely on their own, and according to the filmmakers, by far the biggest cheer of the night was for Rocky, not for any of the real fighters.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

Love those facts, especially the last one 😭 I wonder if he even now understands how much this character impacts people.

@BigGator5

7 ай бұрын

Indeed. Go in Peace and Walk with God. 😎 👍

@ConstantineFurman

7 ай бұрын

Forget that nine count--at one point, Tarver DID actually knock Stallone out because he was having Tarver actually hit him.

there's a story where they asked adrian's actress how she felt about her character being killed off, and she responded that she wasn't upset because the whole movie is about her.

There is a deleted scene in Rocky 5 where he ran into "Little Marie" when they moved back to the neighborhood. In the deleted scene she was homeless and asking for change outside of Mick's gym. He tried to talk to her again and she told him "screw you" again.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

Wow, that would have been very different! I'm glad she had a more positive outcome than that. It feels like Rocky made at least a little bit of an impact on her way back then, and I like that.

Rocky is substantially older here, but George Foreman was 45 years old when he reclaimed the heavy weight championship in 1994.

I'm not crying. It's not over yet the world of Rocky still has Creed one and two and three

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

At this point I think Creed has to happen. The people have spoken!

@shadycnetwork

7 ай бұрын

@@RhetoricalThrill and Creed 2 you're really going to like because it's almost a direct sequel to Rocky 4.

16:04 it's unrealistic, but maybe not as much as you would think. Rocky movies are often about whatever is going on in Stallone's life at the time, but also based on real things that happened in boxing. This story is taking inspiration from George Foreman, one of boxing's greats, who came out of retirement and won the Heavy Weight Title at the age of 45, against a 26 year old, even while he was overweight and looking nothing like he did when he first won the belt in his early 20s. And more recently Mike Tyson and Roy Jones Jr. had an exhibition fight in their 50s. The original Rocky was based on Chuck Wepner, a nobody in the sport, fighting the legendary Muhammad Ali and doing way better than anyone expected.

@mcgilj1

7 ай бұрын

Have you seen "Chuck" with Liev Schreiber? Based on the true story of Wepner...

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

That's amazing! I hate to be cliche, but some people really are just built different, aren't they?

I know you actually like Rocky 5, and I totally understand that. But for my money, THIS was the film that gave the Rocky franchise the ending it should've gone out on. I was concerned at the beginning of this reaction ngl, lol, but I'm glad you eventually warmed up to it. 😁👍 Pleasure going through the Rocky films once more with you!

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

Thank you for waiting for me lol! This is definitely better than 5. I would have been fine if the story ended at 5, but this feels like the full ending of the story. We got basically a whole journey of an adult life in these movies.

The best part of this video is your gleeful reaction to Duke’s strategy of “Good old fashioned blunt force trauma.” It has been an entertaining joy watching your journey with Rocky. Thank you for your reactions and comments. I haven’t watched Creed yet and your comments section has me looking forward to them, they are on my watchlist.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

They are really making me want to give them a go! And yes, “gleeful” is EXACTLY how I felt 😂 Duke is the MAN

@hashtagPoundsign

7 ай бұрын

@@RhetoricalThrill I finished Creed this morning and I’ll be watching Creed II, highly recommended, and a big thanks to your comments section on them!

This will sound pathetic, but this is my final comment on KZread videos of any kind because I have somehow turned invisible over the past few weeks. I think the automated KZread algorithm is angry at me over something and is blocking creators (and others) from seeing every comment I make? That, or my personal vibes are in the toilet? Can't fix either one. Whatever the case, I'm putting this out there in the off chance that I'm not really invisible: The Rocky journey with you has been loads of fun and a bit emotional! I think the best part is how expressive you are. It really brings your reactions to life! I am thrilled that you chose to keep pressing forward and that you found wisdom in every film. This one is most definitely my favorite! I look forward to more of your reactions! Time to run silent, now...

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

Aw no, that’s horrible if you’re not getting seen. I see this one at least, I try to make a point to respond or heart all the comments I see. Generally KZread doesn’t notify me about replies to replies, so they’re not easy to find, but I always try. I’m so glad I could bring you some enjoyment, and thank you for the lovely comment 💜 It’s been more amazing than I could have imagined!

My take on the movie is this: It may seem unrealistic for an older person (Rocky is either 60 or close to it in this movie) to box, but it’s not unheard of. I’ve seen a 70-year old in a boxing match before (it was for a benefit or something iirc). Also fighters have broken their hand and kept fighting before. Eventually it becomes numb. As for Rocky’s relationship with Robert, they’re distant but in a very realistic way imo. Neither of them really did anything wrong and there’s no animosity there. They just grew apart because they lead different lives and went down different paths. They’ve always kinda struggled to relate to each other because they’re so different. Rocky was always a boxer and more the physical, athletic sort, whereas Robert was more book smart and creative. And like you said, they no longer had Adrian there to bring them together so they just drifted apart. I do think it was a nice touch for them to reconcile over Adrian’s grave. They clearly have love for each other as father and son, but they’re just so different. The battle of this movie was definitely about Rocky’s grief over Adrian. Every movie so far has been about Rocky’s various inner struggles (self-doubt, the doubts of others, fear, revenge, inadequacy, etc.). Now his battle was grief, and it stands to reason he would go back to the only way he knows how to get past it. I totally would go to Rocky’s restaurant and listen to his stories all day. I’m sure the food would be amazing.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

I would LOVE to go to Rocky's restaurant! Thank you for the comment 😊

I didn't like how this movie started, either. Then it occurred to me that Rocky was just taking hit, after hit, after hit, after hit. And he kept going, no matter how much it hurt. It was a fitting capstone to the series.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

Exactly!

@mcgilj1

7 ай бұрын

"it's not about how hard you can hit.. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.." literally what every single Rocky film has been saying since the beginning and Sly sums it up perfectly.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

I need that on my wall. Maybe on my body lol @@mcgilj1

@mcgilj1

7 ай бұрын

@@RhetoricalThrill yeah . Less needles involved putting it on the wall . Lol

You did it. It's been an experience and I appreciated getting to ride along for the journey.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

I'm honored to have you, truly! Thank you!

I just love your reactions. You have a great natural spirit and energy about you. There is something real and authentic about you. Something that’s lacking in more popular channels. Keep doing you. Another great analysis. 👏🏾

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

You flatter me, but thank you! I promise to always give you guys that authenticity, it’s very important to me 💜

We keep standing up after every hit from life. Super reaction 🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

When he basically said no one will hit as hard as life…OOH did I feel that

as usual, great reaction and your understanding complex issues is a breath of fresh air in reaction videos. Great job!

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

Ah, thank you! I like turning off the brain sometimes but not for these works of art!

Thank you for this. Watching Rocky with you has been so much fun. I hope you’ll continue with the Creed movies! They were a welcome surprise. We never thought we’d see Rocky again. Happy Holidays!

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

Thank you! I love how every time people thought Rocky was done, there was a bit more left in him. Just like in the movies 💜

This was the sequel that I didn't know that I needed. It was a pleasure re-experiencing the series with you.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

Not as much of a pleasure as having you guys with me 🥹

To answer your question at the end of the video yes I would like to see you react to Creed 1 and 2. He is definitely more than a side character in those. I almost look at it as Rocky 7 and 8. While he isn't the "main" focus he definitely has story arcs of his own in both movie to where he feels like a main character.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

That's very helpful! If you all say they respect Rocky and don't push him aside, I'm going to have to try

Okay, so the whole thing with Rocky and Rocky Jr. (I don't play that "Robert" game): this all came about because of the state of Stallone's relationship with his son Sage. Sage was having trouble carving his own way through life for pretty much the same reasons as in the movie and it caused a rift between Sly and Sage. When Stallone finally got this movie off the ground, he offered the Jr. part to Sage, but he turned it down, saying "No more Rocky for me." So Sly goes off and makes the movie and when it premieres, he begs Sage to come to the premiere. "I want you to see what I have to say to you," Sly told him. And Sage came. And when the movie was over, they reconciled and were close again until he died. And Sage was especially proud that his dad had made, in his words, "a compelling film." Stallone's career had died and he went into "Rocky Balboa" thinking it would be the last film he was ever going to make, so he put everything he had into it--including his directing, writing, and acting fees, essentially doing the movie for free--and the end result speaks for itself. The film reinvigorated Stallone's career into where it is today. About Rocky's brain problems. What happened to them? MGM. Back in March of 2006, there was a sneak preview showing of RB in Philadelphia and the folks that saw it there told me it ran about 2 1/2 hrs long. MGM told Stallone, "We're not releasing a two-and-a-half-hour Rocky movie. Cut it down to an hour forty-five." So Stallone was forced to eviscerate the movie... and with all those cuts went everything dealing with "Rocky V." This movie revealed that due to better technology we have today (well, then, almost 20 years ago now), Rocky didn't actually have brain damage--he just had a major concussion (that apparently lasted at least five years??). And so that was how Stallone dealt with that. When he was doing the talk show rounds for this movie, the brain damage thing was still on everyone's mind and the hosts would ask about it and Stallone would explain this very thing every time because he had to take it out of the movie. There was a whole saga about the making of this movie and what Stallone had to go through and get around to make the thing. It culminated in one of the heads of MGM--pissed off that Stallone had went around him and got the movie made anyway after he'd said no--leaking a DVD-quality master of the movie to the internet the night before the film's release so that it would tank the movie and "put Stallone in his place." But RB, much like Rocky himself, beat the odds and went on to become a low-budget success, earning 100 million domestic on a meager 25 million budget. MGM would go on to tell Stallone they never made any profit from the film. Stallone's contract stated he would get a percentage of the profits. As far as I know, he still hasn't seen a penny from this movie. In the screenplay for the movie, instead of Max Kellerman, the third commentator was Clubber Lang! And surprise of surprises, Clubber is the only one who believes Rocky can win. And he's constantly calling the other two "fools" for doubting Rocky. It also leads to this brilliant exchange before the fight-- "Clubber glances over at Rocky and waves. PAULIE: Why's he smilin' so much? DUKE: Heard he found God. ROCKY: That'll do it." Unfortunately, then Mr. T was filming his short-lived reality show and wasn't available to do it. :-/ I don't know if it makes you feel any better, but Stallone totally steals and walks off with "Creed," so much so that they had to cut a bunch of great scenes he did so he was doing it less. I put said scenes back into the movie and it's the only way I'll watch it. Lastly, if you go to Philly, DON'T run up the steps. It is a fool's errand. The whole point of Rocky running up the steps was to show how strong he had become during training. But us normos are all like "Pfft. I got this." Don't do it; mosey up those steps like a sane person. It seriously messed me up for the rest of the day when I did it. I cannot discourage people from trying that enough.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

Maybe I’ll cheat the steps 😆 Thank you for all that great info! I’m glad that Stallone tried to explain the brain injury stuff and didn’t just ignore it. Studio execs are so dumb. And I would have SQUEED to see Clubber back as a commentator! I’m so glad Stallone and Sage reconciled before he passed. I didn’t know he had until after I watched V. How very sad, no one should have to bury their child.

That speech to his son was a way of showing realism Rocky’s movies always had realistic moments and people can actually suffer like Rocky did in real life so Rocky is the movie that I would show my future son/daughter one day :)

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

There's so much you can use in real life in these movies 💜

@mohammedalkhatib418

7 ай бұрын

Ofc there is you just gotta invest it to find it

The person playing Mason "The Line" Dixon was a boxer in real life too named Antonio Tarver. He won multiple Light Heavyweight Championships in his career and became a boxing commentator for Showtime Boxing.

This is at least as good as the first three. Absolutely amazing. Wonderful rewatching with you as always.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

And wonderful to have you here! Thank you!

There was a deleted subplot where Paulie had a girlfriend and was living with her. They would break up and Paulie would move back in with Rocky.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

I saw a couple deleted scenes that referenced that. Seemed a little disjointed but maybe I didn’t see all of them. They could have kept Paulie’s breakdown though, that was good

One of the commentators at ring side (the one with the goatee) facial hair is legit a huge Rocky fan. He says that Rocky 3 is his favorite boxing movie of all time, so when he geeked out when Rocky said, "How you doin'" to him a ringside that was his legit reaction. "I'm a fan. I can't help it!"

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

Oh, that's fun! What a great experience that must have been!

rocky 1-6 the 40 year journey of a man that kept wanting to retire and nobody would let him

Couldn't agree more with your words on the final credits. 🥊❤

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for sticking around for that part! I loved it so much but I really wanted to start the wrap-up after that gorgeous shot of Rocky in the distance

I had to pause your reaction and comment when you asked who's to say what's possible and not possible before the fight.. George Foreman shocked the world when he won the heavyweight championship at 46 yo. And he did it the same way they trained Rocky for this fight, no speed, just sheer power and heart. So the idea of this happening isn't as far-fetched as you first think, there is a precedent for it. 😎👍👊

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

I always surprise myself by how caught up I get in my own opinions when I honestly don’t know squat 😂

@gingerbreadman1969

7 ай бұрын

@@RhetoricalThrill Aww.. You know a lot. You might not have expertise in every category (who does?) But you put yourself out there to comment and shed light on these great movies, and I love you for that. My sexy Kathy Bates. Lol ❤️👍👊💯🔥

Loved this reaction, Subscribed, you got one lad from Liverpool, England.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

Ayo, thank you so much!

Burt young boxed while he was in the U S Marine Corps and when he left the military he trained with Mike Tyson’s trainer Cus D’amato his real name was Gerald Deluise.

Duke turns rocky into what he was at the start guy that could hit really hard

In real life from time to time you get a older fighter that comes out of retirement,just the other day iron Mike Tyson says he's thinking on coming out of retirement

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

It's got to be those guys that are just at another level

I love Duke, that guy never stopped believing in Rocky. He was scared of Rocky in 1 and 2, happy to work with him in 3, and had complete faith in his toughness in 4. Duke most likely didnt get to help Rocky in V because he went to L. A. and Rocky was in Philly so he probably did not get the chance to know Rocky's bankruptcy. And here in 6, he flat out tells everyone to never count Rocky out.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

Love Duke! I remember back in the first one, while everyone else in the room is wheeling and dealing, he was watching Rocky on the tv and seeing him for what he was.

10:49 This is Skip Bayless. He has had a career on ESPN shows giving his opinion on many different sports topics. He is known by sports fans for having some of the worst opinions in sports. So, this was perfect casting.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

HAHA that’s great 😆

Sylvester Stallone and Michael B. Jordan both brought back Rocky for a new generation of fans.

Another great emotional watch!!!

@RhetoricalThrill

6 ай бұрын

Definitely the most emotional for me

I believe Stallone won an award for best supporting actor in Creed. The second act twist, you won't see coming. The basement: I'm an on/off gymrat. 40 isn't olde olde, but also I can't train the way I did in my twenties. Recovery might be fine, but I DEFINITELY take warming up a little more seriously. Why do I keep coming back to weight training? Beyond wanting to perform an unassisted toilet squat when I'm 70, well. There's still something in the basement. Still something to prove to myself. Hurtin' bombs: after I was a victim of SA, Duke's words rang in my head. That feeling of being weak pervaded my psyche for a time. "Heavy duty, pile driving punches that'll hurt so hard they'll rattle his ancestors." I wanted to feel strong. (Thankfully, that acute feeling of weakness has passed. Still like feeling strong, as always.)

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

I love your mindset! I find as much as I’d like to get fit and look attractive, the most important part is honestly strength and independence in my later years 💜

Fun fact: Mason Dixson was played by real life light heavyweight championship Antonio Tarvar

I can attribute the brain damage inconsistency to a few things. One, always get a second opinion. The doctors could have been wrong in Rocky 5, or the diagnosis could have been less severe than they originally thought, or the testing might not have been advanced as it is in Rocky 6. Two, it's only recently that we learned about brain plasticity. The brain is more adaptable than people once imagined it was. I don't know the real excuse, but that's how I reconcile the brain damage issue. I like that you mentioned at the end of the video that people die in real life. The Rocky movies always resonated with me because of how relatable they are. I highly recommend watching the first two Creed movies. I haven't seen the third one yet, but the first two are really a continuation of this world.

@ConstantineFurman

7 ай бұрын

"the testing might not have been advanced as it is in Rocky 6." That's exactly what happened in the scenes that had to be removed at MGM's insistence that dealt with V.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

That makes a lot of sense. It would have been nice to throw in a line during the licensing hearing but I can deal with that

He is not a side character in the first Creed movie, in fact, he was nominated for an oscar.... so....

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

Really??? I’m definitely coming around to Creed but that helps a lot!

@itubeutubewealltube1

7 ай бұрын

@@RhetoricalThrill yes, really.. lol.. but he should of been nominated and should of won for his best performance in a movie called "Copland" 15 years earlier.... he put on like fifty pounds for that role... and not muscle.

I know you’ve said before how you’re not sure about the Creed movies, and it’s your choice of course, but I think you should give them a chance. Rocky is an integral part of the first two of them, and they actually continue his story and the series. I don’t see the Creed movies as a spin-off but rather a continuation that is intertwined. They breathe new life into the series. Plus they have some of Sly’s best acting in the series, and Rocky is the sweetest old man. The third Creed doesn’t have Rocky in it, but it is also a great movie (with one of the most emotional scenes in the series imo). I hope you’ll give these excellent movies a chance.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

I'm not against it, but I think it will be a little while before I get to them in any case. I'm super grateful for all the input on Creed from you guys as well!

According to Sly, he said making Rocky 6 happen is HARDER than making Rocky 1, because movie studios told him nobody cares about old Rocky anymore. But lo and behold, the audience cheers for Rocky was NOT scripted. So once again, Sly proved them wrong, people still love Rocky.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

This is a character that defies expectations, onscreen and off

Fighters have broken their hands in matches before and continued fighting. I'm reminded of one, it was Micky Ward vs. Arturo Gatti in their third match against each other. I forget which round it was but Gatti broke his hand when he accidentally punched Ward in the hip (just like Dixon did here). When he got back to his corner his trainer asked him what was wrong because he could tell Gatti was in pain. Gatti said my hand broke. His trainer asked him what Gatti wanted to do and Gatti told him "I gotta keep going." He ended up winning the fight. There is a movie based on Micky Ward's life called "The Fighter" it's pretty good. I recommend checking it out. Ward vs. Gatti isn't covered in the movie, but their three fights against each other are considered some of the best fights in boxing history. Especially their first one.

First Creed movie, it just doesn’t work without Rocky. By the third they thought they could fly without him and found out the hard way they’re not ducks.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

Very interesting!

Love the franchise, my personal favourites 2,,this 1 is me 2nd ,but it makes is cry like a baby 👌 👏

Rocky is all heart and all class ❤️❤️

Originally Adrian was going to be in the movie, Talia Shire had agreed to do it and they worked out her pay. Stallone felt the script lacked a good reason for Rocky to step back into the ring and felt Adrian's death would be believable motivation. Plus Adrian didn't have much to do in the script at the time outside of the "fighters fight" speech which was originally going to be delivered by Adrian. He talked to Talia about it and she was openly supportive of it. Stallone still made sure she received her full pay, Listing it as pay for the archival footage. on the other side of things According to the actress who played Little Marie in the original film and deleted scenes of Rocky 5, Stallone had promised her the part and she had cleared her schedule to do the movie. She sued and they settled out of court. So either she misunderstood something since they recast the role or Stallone decided to go in another direction and failed to inform her.

Subbed in around ur Braindead reaction (Braindead is a personal fave here, so seeing one watch it makes my happy) & now u have done every official Rocky movie & i've enjoyed every single of ur reactions all the way, ur goddamn genuine & a blast to watch 👍

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

I'm so glad someone enjoyed the Braindead video 😂 Horror movies are generally poor performers for me but I love them so and sometimes you just gotta say eff it 🤣 I'm glad you're having a good time and I'm so glad to have you!

When you're ready you will love the Creed movies

Hi, I just found your channel!😊 So, in the original script Adrian was alive. But they thought it was better for the growth of the Rocky character that she had passed away. Talia Shire (Adrian) was asked about what she thought about her character being deceased and she thought it was the right thing for Rocky's growth. Burt Young (Paulie) passed away last month, R.I.P.🙏🏻 Great honest reactions to the final Rocky film!!!!🎬👏👏👏👏

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

Thanks! Glad to have you here, and I think as much as it hurts, Adrian being gone works for the movie on every level 😢

I'm sorry if I'm repeating something that someone else mentioned already, but.... As to the "why".... Sylvester Stallone once said that he had written several drafts of the script where Adrian was alive and Robert (Rocky Jr.) was in the Air Force. Rocky expressed the desire to fight again and his family were justifiably perplexed. Sylvester didn't find that emotionally engaging or interesting. He said that if we as an audience were going to get back behind Rocky as an underdog, then he would have to be at a place in his life where he felt like less than zero. In order for that to happen, the most precious part of Rocky's life had to be gone. Now, he isn't just wanting to fight to prove he still can. Now the desire to fight is born out of a deep place of grief and rage. Figuring out how to deal with the worst kind of trauma. Figuring out how to heal and move on to a new part of life. He has to get rid of the "need" to fight. The "beast" inside, the "angry stuff in the basement." This has become my favorite film in the core Rocky series. It's all about the heart, the last thing on a person to age. If you can be grateful for your blessings in life and "keep moving forward" through whatever you face, you are rich.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, he was right in the end but it was like a sucker punch 😭

This character has inspired millions of people,that in life strong is the one who overcomes injustice,resists ingratitude,does not bend to pain,is not afraid of abandonment,faces loneliness, does not give up the fight...FORGIVES!!!!!!!!!!

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

Rocky has the biggest and best heart 😭

You're a tough cookie. I like your take on all this.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

Thanks so much! 😊

Ive loved Rocky since i was a little boy but this fight made me a Mason Dixon fan too. Great storytelling

You’re definitely one of my favorite reactors. This Rocky journey with you has been special. The kind of emotional involvement that you convey, cannot be faked. You’re all heart, (Insert your name here) 😉 I do think that you should check out and react to the Creed movies. Maybe just go in with the expectations that they make great "boxing over adversity films", but separately as their own story. That way you’re not disappointed. IMO, they’re good movies, just maybe not the best ROCKY movies. That’s how I look at Scream 5 and 6. Good movies, but not good for Scream movies. Which, oddly doesn’t actually ruin them for me within the franchise. That’s how I look at it. Maybe it will help you too.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

I like this perspective! I'm hearing a lot of reassuring things from you guys, so I think Creed will happen at some point, probably after the new year. And thank you, so much, for the lovely compliment. Being honest and real is extremely important to me and I never want to lose sight of that 💜

@adnap

7 ай бұрын

@@RhetoricalThrill Of course. Looking forward to it. 😊 👍

Great reaction! Adrian was the movie! Her legacy fueled Rocky even as he had flash memories of her during the fight.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

She’s his everything even when she’s gone ahead 😭

This was a great journey with you. I absolutely hated what they did to him in the Creed movies. This 6th one is a beautiful addition to the Rocky story

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

Thank you for coming along!

It was a shock to me when I found out Adrian was dead in this one too!

I get what you’re saying about Paulie trying to make it about him. The way I saw it, he regrets being a shit person, he sees what his choices led him to, and he hates it. And he knows he can’t change it. That’s why the deleted scene is so important.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

It didn’t tell me too much I hadn’t kind of guessed, but yes, it’s a very impactful scene. I wish they’d kept it. I can tell it’s not him being *just* self absorbed, he really wants Rocky to move forward too, but I think he was pushing too hard. In the end once Rocky knew what he needed to do, he was there to back him up 💜

Brilliant Reaction, I was gutted about Adrian but there's only one Rocky and sometimes heart and courage is enough.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

I feel like I went through the five stages of grief myself in the span of this movie 😂 😭

@davidnorton6400

7 ай бұрын

@@RhetoricalThrill It's a pleasure to hear your reactions and Rocky is a force of nature if you keep hitting him he just gets pissed off.

You are one of my favorite reactors. You are genuine. I would love for you to do the Creed movies. They are really like Rocky 7 and 8!! Hopefully soon. I'll be there when you do!!!

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

I think at this point Creed is going to have to happen 😂 Probably a bit of a break, after the holidays at least. And I hope you will be there too!

Thank you for reacting to Rocky, bought back memories and tears. Now to Creed 1-2. The 3rd part is so so for me. But will watch if you decide to watch

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

I'm definitely leaning toward doing it, not right away, but at some point 💜

loved the trip with you. ive seen creed 1 and 2 and they were both amazing!!! they were very respectable and true to Rocky's character, it felt right! definitely worth it. I have not seen Creed 3

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

Thank you for responding! Seems a lot of people think it’s worth a look!

Awesome reaction.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

Thanks! I'm glad you liked it 😊

@christopherking4932

7 ай бұрын

@@RhetoricalThrill your welcome and thank you for the awesome reactions.

It's actually pretty realistic that rocky and his kid are still at odds. It happens in real life. Some father son and mother daughter relationships are like that. Some are constantly like this.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

Very true. Thematically it felt a little cheap, since they'd already done that, but it ended up being very different in the end and I think it worked

5:48 I like Paulie’s part in this. He’s realized how bad he treated her and can’t fix it. He’s the victim of the military & government not supporting their soldiers once they leave service. He seems like a person that is haunted by his past. Both of them aren’t moving on. Rocky is expecting everyone close to him to feel the same way he feels. It’s fine to remember the past but don’t force others to do the same if they don’t feel like it. 9:15 it’s different from the last movie. This one is his son wanting to have his own life but is always referred to as “Baby Rocky” and gets asked why he’s not a fighter like his dad. 12:44 how did he pass his tests? His brain was scrambled after fighting Drago plus he’s been right eye blind since the second movie. 21:22 this July 2024 Mike Tyson (58) will be boxing Jake Paul (27) which if Rocky & Dixon are playing the actor’s actual ages then they have almost the same age difference (Rocky 60 & Dixon 38)

@RhetoricalThrill

Ай бұрын

Thanks for commenting! You have a lot of good stuff here 😊 I’m a little hard on Paulie, I know. His personality rubs me the wrong way and he puts up defenses so it’s hard for me to see his side sometimes. Always a good reminder 💜

Why kill Adrian off? Fight would never have happened with her around. But like Talia Shire said, even without Adrian there, the movie was all about Adrian and Rocky’s relationship with her.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

It made sense in the end, but it hurt SO BAD at first 😢 I actually think she was more present than if she had been there.

@mcgilj1

7 ай бұрын

​@@RhetoricalThrillthe scene when Rocky is talking about her . And seeing her. Just destroys me every single time.

The alternate ending actually has Rocky winning

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

It could have worked, but I liked it as is. It felt like an echo to the first one. Plus it was a nice outcome for Dixon, who really didn’t do anything wrong.

The mom and young girls running up the steps at the end is sly's wife and daughters

@RhetoricalThrill

5 ай бұрын

Awww

Excellent Movie. Defiantly had the feel of the first two.

To be fair, George Foreman was 46 when he regained the heavyweight title.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

That’s something else!

I love Rocky movies. But i like the little something extra you add to them. 👍

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

Thank you! I’m glad you like them 😊

Great send off to the Rocky series, Creed 1 and 2 are worth a watch for more of Rocky in a supporting role.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

I don't think I'd mind seeing him sidelined as much as pushed aside. If that's not a problem then I'm definitely game. Eventually lol

4:58 "am very hurt right now...." Oh... give it a few minutes.... It's gonna get worse.

@RhetoricalThrill

5 ай бұрын

💔

Another favorite this one sweet

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

Best love story of all time? I wouldn’t argue 😭

Glad you remembered he was made of iron he heh, great movies!

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

So great!

about the brain injury from the last movie, i am pretty sure there was a scene in this movie somewhere that they said th enew MRI showed that the initial one from 20 years ago was wrong or that it healed. i forget exactly where.

I will say the thing that amazes me entirely about this film and about Sylvester Stallone. About a year after this he was filming the expendables. I saw a picture and I swore that man had just walked off the set of Rambo: first blood part II. Rocky was in very different shape than we'd ever seen him before in this film. In a year he had totally changed his body. Not just at his age but at any age that is just incredible.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

It's cliche, I'm sure, but I've been doing serious work trying to get myself fit for the first time in my life, and I'm not exactly young anymore. So these have been hugely inspiring for me.

Oh gee ... should I start calling you Yoda?

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

AHAHAHA SOMEONE CAUGHT IT! 💜

For me as a long time Rocky fan, this movie was a brilliant end to Rocky's story. Yes there's the Creed series but those are a passing of the torch, but this is where the OG story ends.

Can't wait for my The Heavenly kid request My Stigmata request 😊

You can watch Creed son of Apollo Creed and Rocky still training him

Yes the Rye or The Kaiser. That's probably what Sly had in mind. He's no bum he bought the neighborhood deli

@RhetoricalThrill

6 ай бұрын

Back on his feet, now he's chopping up meat

I picked up several very important things from watching your reaction. That I did not occur to me. Thank you. You must watch Creed 1 and 2. You will love it and Rocky's role in them.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

I hear you guys, and I'm definitely warming up to it! And thank you so much for watching!

Relationships don’t always work out normally. Fathers and sons don’t always get along all the time

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

No, sadly, they don't. I didn't really explain it well, but what I meant was more thematically I didn't understand the choice. But once I realized it symbolized something else entirely I got it.

You can´t finish this series without seeing Creed, it´s an amazing movie. Please don´t do this to me.😅

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

If it's that good and that important, I think I will have to go on!

The did film two different endings. One where Rocky got the decision win and the one that made it into the movie. I think they always intended for Rocky to lose but they didn't want spoilers from the live crowd to leak online so they filmed both.

@ConstantineFurman

7 ай бұрын

Stallone shot four endings for the movie! 1.) Rocky loses decision. 2.) Rocky loses K.O. 3.) Rocky wins decision. 4.) Rocky wins K.O.

Will Buckle up, because Sylvester Stallone is actually writing another Rocky film. You can see recent interviews he is discussing a new script he has been working on for a few years now. And saying that just because it's being written doesn't mean it will ever get done. But he's already got plans to do another Rocky film. And you may have also heard there is a rocky prequel coming out.

@ConstantineFurman

7 ай бұрын

"And you may have also heard there is a rocky prequel coming out" That died off.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

I hadn’t heard that! I’m still very wary of sequels but this series has shown me to always take things as they are and be open minded until given a reason to avoid 💜

Your calling Paulie a complex character shows you see into things more than most. Most people just love to hate him, and that's that, so you're an outlier, which is a good thing. Can't wait for you to watch the deleted scene. :)

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

I actually saw the scene just after I filmed. It’s a shame they cut it, it was so short and did a lot for ole Paulie. He’ll never not annoy me, but that’s just how some people are 😆 and it doesn’t make them bad. Thank you for being here!

Adrian’s death was essential to the plot. With her alive, he would have no motivation to fight again.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

Yep. It hurt me real bad, but in the end it made sense 💜

@kennethfinnegan2978

7 ай бұрын

@@RhetoricalThrill when I first saw this movie in 2006 I cried like a baby when Rocky and Paulie were at the torn down ice rink.

Parabéns por reagir a essa saga que é a principal da minha vida! Vamos não desista tem mais dois filmes com nosso personagem principal agora a luta é outra com atuações fantásticas do Stallone! valeu aqui do 🇧🇷

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

I think I will be giving Creed a try! Maybe not right away, but eventually. And obrigado por assistir meu video! (I hope that was right!)

There’s a deleted scene from this movie on KZread and you should react to it. It’s a paulie scene that should’ve never been taken out. It’ll blow you away and def change your mind on paulie

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

I did see it afterward, I wonder why they cut it. It was a great scene and wasn’t long at all.

Rocky Saga ends with Creed II

You know I mean you know Rocky visits her everyday probably crystal too

@christophermedvetzsr.9184

5 ай бұрын

And Carel Weathers died so sad his performance was great in everything