This reaction was recorded several weeks ago, prior to the passing of Burt Young. I assume most of you are smart enough to realize this, but just in case: it is the character of Paulie that I do not like and will be making snarky comments about during this video. I have no negative feelings toward Mr. Young, may he rest in peace, and I wish comfort and strength to his loved ones 💜

@jotham777

8 ай бұрын

RIP Burt Young.

@mcgilj1

8 ай бұрын

I loved him in this one though. He screwed up.. But him just.. Jumping in front of Tommy, not backing down the telling him exactly what he is . Muuuuuuah..

@Metzwerg74

8 ай бұрын

just make sure, when you react to the next one, that yousearch out the deleted scene of paulie... it really is worth the effort.... R.I.P. Burt Young.... the only one, that actually was a boxer in the first movie...

@tgriffin3059

8 ай бұрын

@@Metzwerg74 You said it. That was a PHENOMENAL scene. I think that should have been left in. It was like a culmination of all those years playing the role...

@bradhorowitz2765

8 ай бұрын

understandable. this movie really didn't do that great of explaining why Paulie is still around...nor do i think it was smart to give Paulie financial responsibility. this admittedly is one the weaknesses of the movie. We GET what the movie is going for; a return to the roots. Around this time, stallone was becoming a joke. his movies were a clear distance away from the serious critically acclaimed roles he made in his early career and , while those movies like rocky 4, and the Rambo sequels are fun, they were declining returns. So stallone thought he could reunte with the OG director of rocky and regain that respect. It did not work, rocky v was the worst received film and grossed the least. It was clear-stallone was in a dud. Now this movie...isn't good. But it gets hated way too much. There are so many good moments. But also hurt by the bad stuff-poor music, terrible editing, a story tht is hard to accept even by rocky's standards. The best thing is that this movie was that failure stallone needed. Failure cna teach us so much more about what should happen .In 2006, stallone returned...

"Be careful, she's going to breathe Chlamydia all over the living room." was the gem line of the reaction. I love some of the shit that comes out when you get pissed off. I'm in the minority. I've always liked this one. I like the realism and the back to basics. I also liked the story arc of the kid and Rocky's relationship. One left. It's not my favorite, but it's a decent movie for an ending to the series.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

I do wonder sometimes how the random crap I come up with will go over with people, so I'm always happy if I can make someone laugh! Appreciate you guys so much!

paulie's coolest moment in the series is when he steps up to tommy and calls him a bum, taking that punch in the bar, sticking up for his brother in law.

@ConstantineFurman

8 ай бұрын

Everybody seems to sleep on the fact that Paulie takes a blow to the head from the heavyweight champion of the world and more or less shrugs it off (though he seems to be missing a tooth in "Rocky Balboa" as a consequence).

@tgriffin3059

8 ай бұрын

@@ConstantineFurman Yeah, no doubt, there was a lot of tenacity in Paulie.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

He really did step up there, and I wish I'd commented on it, I was kind of caught up in the moment and didn't get the chance 😔

@gingerbreadman1969

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, that was one of Paulie's best moments, and it led to one of my favorite lines from Rocky "You knocked him down... Why dontcha try knocking me down?" Goosebumps. 🥶😡

@Mark-fr7yv

8 ай бұрын

Ya Pauly should at least be knocked out after that. @@ConstantineFurman

Best way to describe this film: No, it wasn't up to the same "quality" of the other films, but it's still WORTHY for the franchise! Glad u enjoyed it.....I do TOO! 😁

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

It takes risks, sometimes they didn't pay off, but I appreciate the ones that did, and that they kept the heart and soul 💜

@winslow-eh5kv

7 ай бұрын

Audiences hated THIS sequel for basically the same reason they also hated the third Halloween movie - because it defied the routine. Creatures of repetition, ya know?

He is Tommy Morrison a real heavyweight fighter in the 90s and won the title,but sadly passed away in the 90s from aid's. RIP Tommy Morrison

@ice-iu3vv

8 ай бұрын

he was such garbage as a person it sucks that youre promoting him.

@dicktrickle741

8 ай бұрын

He won one of the lesser fragments of the championship belt. He was pretty good though, I think he could have knocked out anyone Mike Tyson did.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

I've seen some about him in other comments, sounds like he had a very bad end in any case

@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812

7 ай бұрын

If I remember correctly Mike Tyson actually admitted he didn't want to ever fight Tommy Morrison.

This movie was so different in my opinion because the story wasn't revolving around rocky fighting. I enjoyed your reaction 👍

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

I'm glad you did! I like that they try different things and all these movies feel different. They all kind of "fit" in the time periods they were made, so I think seeing them as one unit feels really complete. At least to me!

@wonder777warrior6

8 ай бұрын

My favorite part of this movie was the character dev for the Rocky, Paulie n even the kid.

My take on the movie is this (essay ahead, be warned): Paulie didn’t screw Rocky out of his money, the accountant did. Why would ANYONE allow Paulie to make financial decisions, and why wouldn’t Rocky (or more likely Adrian) keep up on it? As for the Rocky/Tommy plot, I don’t consider Tommy a villain. He’s just a kid who has nothing but fighting. He’s young, dumb, and hungry for whatever opportunities he can get. He’s just as much a victim of exploitation as Rocky is, but unfortunately he couldn’t recognize who his problem was really with. The real villain is the promoter. He’s perfectly willing to take advantage of others for his own gain with little regard for their well-being, so Rocky’s warning to Tommy was spot-on. What makes him so dislikable is the fact that people like him exist in the real world, and we all know them. My take on the Rocky/Robert plot: There’s really no bad guy in this situation. Rocky has been shown to be a wonderful person and a great father. He just got caught up and failed to see how it affected his son. It wasn’t intentional on Rocky’s part, and it’s easy to see how it happened. Rocky already had trouble relating to Robert because the two are so different, and he also had trouble accepting that his career didn’t end on his own terms. Along comes another person who can more easily fill that void, and it was easier for Rocky to live vicariously through Tommy and pass on his knowledge to him.. No one is perfect, and this can happen to any parent, and likely most of them at one time or another. Rocky handled it right after he learned his mistake, immediately apologizing and trying to make up for it. I like Rocky V and feel a lot of the hate it gets is unjustified. I think a lot of that could come from the fact that the movie is so different in tone from the others in the series. It almost doesn’t feel like a Rocky movie, and it might not be what a lot of fans want or expect. But imo it’s a good movie in its own right, and a very important addition to the series. I’m so glad I found your channel. You’re an amzing reactor and I love your personality and sense of humor. I always look forward to your reactions.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

I kind of came to the same conclusion - it made some mistakes, it wasn’t quite as strong, but most of all it was very different. I think it really benefits from a second watch, even though I liked it on the first go, I liked it even more while editing. I was a bit rough on Paulie, I think. I never figured he meant to screw them, but I was so frustrated that he couldn’t even admit he did a dumb thing (and Rocky definitely should have read what he was signing!) or apologize, instead shifting blame everywhere else. Tommy lost his head, he didn’t have the heart that Rocky had and Rocky couldn’t see the danger signs. I felt so sad for him, he’s so pure and doesn’t understand everyone isn’t like him. But Duke was definitely the closest to a villain in this movie, though I’d venture there really isn’t one. I’m glad you found my channel too! Thanks for the great comment, I love discussing this stuff with you guys! Wouldn’t be here without you 💜

@terminallumbago6465

8 ай бұрын

@@RhetoricalThrill I feel like Duke was actually the most realistic villain in th series. He’s not another boxer for Rocky to knock out and go on with his day. He’s the greedy scumbag we all have to deal with in our own lives, perfectly willing to sacrifice the well-being of others for personal gain, and an expert at promising people the moon to worm his way in. That’s part of what makes him so irritating, because he represents a type of villain that is everywhere and that nobody can really stop.

I say this every time. Paulie was a victim as well. 1) He didn't hire the attorney of Rocky and Adrian. 2) Why did he have power of attorney for Rocky and Adrian? 3) He was a victim of the lawyer (the real bad guy) as well.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

That’s fair, honestly. I’ve never liked Paulie, and his inability to even admit he made a mistake or feel regretful about what happened frustrated me. But he was definitely duped, and Rocky should have paid attention to what he was signing too.

Say what you want about this movie, imo it's got some of the best, most hard hitting things in the entire Rocky series. The Mickey flashback, the opening lockeroom scene after Rocky 4, and like you said the movie still has that heart that the other Rocky films has. It's not COMPLETELY devoid of quality. 👍 Good review! I'm glad you enjoyed this film!

@mcgilj1

8 ай бұрын

I love the ending song. Always have.. And even with the faults i have with it.. That final fight is my absolute favorite of the series.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

@@mcgilj1 most of the music is admittedly forgettable, if not terrible, but THAT SONG! Certified banger imo

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

I feel like if Rocky is still himself, I just can't be disappointed in any of these. Rocky as a character has become so special to me

Originally this was supposed to end with Rocky's death. The studio/producers talked Stallone out of it as Rocky was very popular/profitable for them.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

Well that would have ripped up my heart so I’m glad they did 😂

@stonecoldku4161

8 ай бұрын

@@RhetoricalThrillI think you see elements of the death even in the ending. The fight is outside of Mickey's gym, he sees Mickey, and the priest showing up at the end. He was probably supposed to be there to give Rocky last rights or something before he died.

Imo the scene with Mickey in the gym is one of my favorites in the series. And it perfectly sums up that Mickey was more than just a trainer to Rocky. I also thought it was a nice touch that Mickey’s gym was the only thing that wasn’t taken from Rocky, and it allowed him to pull himself back up. It’s like Mickey was helping Rocky one last time.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

Yes! The gym, where it started, and hopefully the way they can move on 💜 And very prudent on mickey’s part to give it to Robert!

@terminallumbago6465

8 ай бұрын

@@RhetoricalThrill I always thought that was an odd decision on his part (as opposed to giving it to Rocky), but it turned out to be a good move.

Very underrated IMO. Some very rememberable and emotional scenes. I can see why others don’t like it, but I liked how it changed the formula a bit.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

Sequels are incredibly tough sells for me because you have to balance doing something different and justifying the existence of the sequel, but not lose the themes or what makes it special. And I feel like these do, all of them. Anyone who knows me will tell you I'm VERY wary and fussy about sequels, and the fact that I have genuinely enjoyed every one of these movies is amazing and really speaks to the quality of these characters and this story.

Rocky: trusts Paulie and signs the papers he gives him without reading them Paulie: trusts their accountant and gives Rocky papers to sign without reading them No one ever blames Rocky at all...

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

Guilty, I am 100% biased toward Rocky all the time. He's just such a good person in general that it's hard to admit when he makes mistakes. Which, yeah, signing something blindly is definitely one 🤦🏻‍♀

Rocky: “I’ll take you upstairs and violate you like a parking meter.” I hope he started using condominiums.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣 I wish I’d thought of that one!

@terminallumbago6465

8 ай бұрын

@@RhetoricalThrill Oh you always manage to make us laugh as it is. These are some of my favorite reactions to these movies.

Rocky V came out when I was eight years old. And Rocky IV was the first movie I ever saw in the theatre. I've had a very special relationship with these movies and these characters for my whole life. I was born disabled. And my Mom always said, "Don't you let anybody tell you you can't do anything you want to do!" And all through these movies, Rocky is told "You can't do it." ""You can't win." And he always finds a way. So, Rocky Balboa has been with me for as long as I can remember. And I really like Rocky V. It's a next logical state in the story. This is how Rocky handles getting knocked down. (In a more metaphorical sense.) And it's very powerful. For the family dynamics, the emotional beats, it all carries an amazing impact. People just didn't like this one at the time because it was different. I have a feeling that if Rocky and Tommy fought in the ring at the end, audiences would have responded differently. That's actually the first complaint that I often heard from others who didn't care for this one. "He didn't even fight in the ring! It was stupid?" But, I think after so much time has passed, and the movie gets reappraised, opinions are changing. And like Rocky said, "EVERYBODY CAN CHANGE!" P.S. Rocky IV is also the beginning of my unabashedly unironic love of the work of Mr. Dolph Lundgren. 😂

@tgriffin3059

8 ай бұрын

Having the confrontation take place in the street was, in a sense, a victory for Rocky, because it denied Duke the huge payday he was counting on. And then to win, on top of everything else, and thus discredit Tommy in front of the whole world....that didn't do anything for Duke, either....

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

@@tgriffin3059 That's why I loved it! Duke was the closest thing to a villain (I'd argue there really isn't one here) and he got his ass handed to him in the way that was the worst for him! Epic 😂

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

That's a wonderful experience and I'm glad Rocky was there for you! I wish I'd found him earlier in my life but he's actually done a lot for me even now 😭 And Mr. Lundgren will definitely be appearing more on this channel in the future!

@ryanstoick601

8 ай бұрын

@@RhetoricalThrill I can't wait till you get to "Universal Soldier"! Sergeant Andrew Scott is the single greatest action movie antagonist in HISTORY! (And I actually got the opportunity to tell that directly TO Mr. Lundgren!) ♥️ Nice fella.

George Winston Duke is loosely based on real life boxing promoter Don King, who did promote some of the greatest boxing matches and boxers of all time. King was famous for often said "Only in America" much like Duke does while promoting fights, but unlike Duke, Don King was also famous for having really distinctive hair. But like Duke, Don King was infamous for treating his fighters poorly and would often have contracts written in a way that the promoter (himself) would get the most money rather than the fighters. Don King was exactly the kind of guy that would treat fighters exactly how Rocky described Duke to Tommy. "They promise every good young fighter who comes along, they promise him the world. And they suck'em dry and leave'em in the gutter broke."

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

Sadly there are always people who prey on the naive, inexperienced, and vulnerable 😞

Your takes on every rocky so far have been fantastic.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

That makes me so happy to hear! It was an incredible journey and I'm glad you enjoyed them 💜

its a totally fine movie that gets a lot of hate, and most reactors come away liking it. It might be too because of all the hate, new people go in with very low expectations and get a decent movie

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

That's a really good point! Though I actually liked it more the second time around, there were a lot of little things I missed. I think if you were disappointed by it because you expected something different, and then never saw it again, it would definitely explain some of the dislike too.

Thank you for watching and understanding this movie and its message. You are pretty good, I will have to keep watching your stuff

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

I would love that! I hope you find even more to enjoy 😊

I’ve always seen parallels between the Rocky and Star Trek in terms of quality, which is my way of saying if you haven’t seen them, I highly recommend the Star Trek films. Your reactions to Paulie are perfect for the kind of character he is and it really highlights what a great actor Burt Young was. What I enjoy most from your commentary is your commentary, too many channels that “react” without adding anything, they act more like a proxy to watch a condensed version of the film. What makes a great reaction channel is the reaction and commentary. Your reaction is fantastic, your commentary is top tier, especially the payoff with the mr. “you should totally fight on tv to make me money” man, Satisfying yes, could it have been better if it was a face shot? Yes. In any event I look forward to the next one.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

Ohhhh, a shot in his big mouth would have been icing on the cake 🤣🤣🤣 Thank you for saying such kind things, really, it means a lot to me that people enjoy what I do! Especially the commentary bits, I do get a lot of complaints about "cutting out the best parts" and such, so that lifts my heart quite a bit 😊

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

Oh yes, I've seen all the Star Trek movies, though only once each and a very long time ago, but I do think you're right!

Rocky’s son in the movie was played by his real son (Sage Stallone). Sadly he died of heart disease in 2012. Tommy Gunn was played by real life Boxing Heavyweight Champ Tommy Morrison who died of AIDS in 2013.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

I only found out about Sage’s early death after I filmed. Very sad 😞

Btw: don't know if it's ever been disproven.. But Tommy Morrison was a real boxer fighting under the name "The Duke" (he claimed to be the grand nephew of John Wayne)... and this was really the end for a very very long time . 1990... The next late entry Stallone went can to give his character a better ending in 2006.. And feels more like a successor to the original. What I do love about the series be it Rocky and Rambo it's pretty clear that Stallone always had some thought or theme on his mind and didn't just put out a mindless sequel, even if it didn't totally succeed or not.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

I think you're right. I appreciate someone trying something, even if it ultimately doesn't work. And I really do think there's more that works here than doesn't.

This is something that needs clearing up: Paulie did nothing wrong. Everybody seems to think Paulie lost Rocky's fortune. This is what the movie tells you--their accountant sent a letter to the Balboas saying "If Rocky's going to Russia, then he needs to sign a tax extension." The accountant did this for the explicit reason to steal Rocky's money for his own underhanded schemes. Paulie received the letter and took it to Rocky but apparently neither he nor Adrian read it properly before signing it and running off on his Russian rampage of revenge. At which point, the accountant stole and lost Rocky's fortune. And on top of that, Rocky's accountant wasn't paying his income tax like he was supposed to! Paulie was a messenger, nothing more, if that. He didn't steal, give away, or lose Rocky's money. So everybody lighten the hell up on him. You want to be mad at someone, be mad at Rocky and Adrian for not paying any damn attention. As to Paulie apologizing, yes he did... but they cut it out. There was a scene shot where after Rocky comes home from Mick's gym, he discovers Paulie in the kitchen trying to commit suicide by sticking his head in the oven. Rocky and Paulie have a heart-to-heart (I'd have to read the script again to know exactly what they said), but the scene ends with Rocky telling Paulie he knows Paulie'd never go through with it [killing himself]. When Paulie asks how, Rocky turns on the kitchen light and reveals that all this time, Paulie had his head in the microwave. Obviously, this is not in the theatrical cut and it's not in the director's cut either, but a brief clip from this scene of Paulie muttering, "I still got my place in the old neighborhood" appears in the movie's trailer. Reportedly, Burt Young absolutely hated that this scene was removed and it caused a rift between him and Stallone that wasn't repaired until around the time they made "Rocky Balboa." As to the quality of "Rocky V," well, until "Balboa" came along it was the one that was most like the first movie. It was about people again, not boxing. "Balboa" just did everything "V" was trying to do better.

@terminallumbago6465

8 ай бұрын

Between that and the fact that Rocky was originally scripted to die at the end of the movie…this could have been A LOT darker.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

Oh my god, now I feel awful hearing there was a scene like that 😢 They really should have kept that in, it made Paulie appear completely heartless and remorseless, which was my biggest issue here. I did realize it wasn't purposeful, and you're right, Rocky should have paid more attention to what he was signing. I can't agree Paulie did nothing wrong, but that scene would have changed everything.

great reaction , i'm glad u enjoyed the movie. the reason many dont like this movie is becouse it is judge opposite to the rest of the Rocky movies , and it simply not to their level. the manager is based on Don King a very famous EVIL ! boxing manager/promoter . btw since u liked the rocky series so much i STRONGLY recommend a movie called warrior from 2011 with Tom Hardy and Joel Edgerton

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

Added to my list! Thank you! I feel like I know that name Don King, he had crazy hair, right?

@galpeleg143

8 ай бұрын

@@RhetoricalThrill yup , that also why the manager /promoter in the movie had that white streak in his hair Don King i think is the MOST FAMOUS and INFAMOUS manager /promoter in boxing. he manage Muhamad Ali (and if i rem correctly totally rip him off) and other big names

This was a great Rocky and one of my favorites growing up. Glad you liked it!

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching it!

Good take on it- it’s not my fave but I’ll watch it. The manager is too Don King for me but I’ll deal. Also, mad props for representing the tri Lambs on your shirt

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

NERRRRRRRDS

It's a testament to the writing of Paulie's character and to Burt Young's portrayal of the character that Paulie is who he is. Everyone else has a character arc but Paulie is a loser in the first film and for the most part remains a loser throughout the franchise. We get some glimpses of him wishing to be better and his guilt and remorse for not being a better person. But it's a sad truth that not everyone has the heart to make the changes one need to make for one's self and others. And I think Paulie's failure as a person is written specifically to highlight the strength of character that's in Rocky's heart.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

That is a really good observation, and I think you're spot on! Rocky's heart is beyond compare 💜

It wasn't too bad a film, the only really bad thing for me was how unrealistic the street fight was, it went on far too long.

You go girl. I didn't care for it, but it's Rocky and I'm glad you enjoyed it.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

I'm so brave 🤣 thank you for being here even though you don't like the movie, that means a lot for real 💜

Friend, you're name calling is epic and hilarious.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

It ain’t much, but it’s honest work 😂 💜

Yep, I'm with you. I'm glad you're still into it. The next one is... interesting. Has the advantage of a PERFECTLY cast Milo Ventimilia as Robert. But 😭

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

It's funny that I'm hearing mixed reactions to the last one, until recently I'd only heard praise for Balboa. So I'm even more curious!

@sisterdebmac

8 ай бұрын

@@RhetoricalThrill You'll see why...

I love your Rocky reactions sooo much 🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

I’m so sad it’s almost over 😞 This has been such an amazing time

maybe you did not notice... but it was paulie, who was a friend to rockys son, when rockyhad no time for his son.... it was paulie, that worked with the son in the gym, so he could stand up to the bully paulie didnothing bad.. he got scammed, it was rockys bad foresight, to give paulie all the power over his money. paulie actually thought he would do something good for rocky... but like quite some other celebrities from that time, (in real life) got scammed of their money...

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

I'm actually pretty ashamed to admit it, but I didn't notice that until I was editing and saw it again 😞 There was actually a lot of subtle things that I didn't catch the first time, and not just because I was talking sometimes 😂 I'll always have issues with Paulie's personality and behavior, but this wasn't entirely his fault.

@Zylthis

8 ай бұрын

​@@RhetoricalThrill I appreciate you admitting that, it always bothered me the bad rep Paulie gets. Nobody ever looks at things from Paulie's perspective. He was Rocky's best (and only?) friend from jumpsteet, he hooked Rocky up with his sister, was risking his job getting free meat and yeah asked for help getting a better job (which Rocky didn't seem to do until maybe much later?). As pointed out in the comment above he was right there for his nephew, he took that hit from Tommy, and yeah he was scammed but he was always in defense of his family. Hell, he even went to Russia with Rocky in 4, he didn't need to be there and he surely wasn't comfortable he was there to support Rocky when Adrian wasn't. Sure Paulie had some dark moments, he was angry and bitter and you've seen by not how he ended up. He was a flawed and complicated character. But anyway, I'm glad I found your channel and I hope that you keep doing what you do (just maybe with a little more empathy for Paulie).

I absolutely loved this one.

@jotham777

8 ай бұрын

God, why?

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

Sometimes you can't really explain it, for me it just felt good to watch. The characters are there, the heart is there, the story stumbles a bit, but I like that they took some risks, because some really worked for me.

@midnightrain789

8 ай бұрын

@@RhetoricalThrill Yes,I loved the whole heart,a true love conquers all. The richer or poorer line came into play .

Youre underrated. Youre funny as freak.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

Aw, thank you! I truly do love to make people laugh and I love hearing that 💜

You make stress and frustration fun! LOL!!! Rocky Balboa (Rocky VI) is the apex film! I actually put it ahead of Rocky because of decades of life experience. I can relate more to Rocky VI. This was an enjoyable journey with you! I'm looking forward to the final Rocky installment with you.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

Thank you! 💜💜💜

@youmadbro7733

8 ай бұрын

I absolutely agree. IMO it was one of the best. The “stuff in the basement” talk broke me.

New subscriber here...💫 I'm with you. It's not the best but it's not trash either. Hey, I'd watch 2 hours of Rocky & Adrian just going for walks & talking about everyday life. With each movie my feeling was, if we've got Rocky & Adrian, I'm in 100%. Loved your commentary. I'm new to the channel (started by watching all your Rocky reactions) & I'm really enjoying it. You're witty & sassy. And you've given me quite a few smiles & laughs already.. especially a couple of times when I really needed them. Thanks! Much love & appreciation from Kentucky. 💙🌿💙🌿💙🌿💙🌿💙🌿💙🌿💙

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

Thank you so much 🥹 I’m glad you’re here!

That drawing of the French teacher looked like you a little bit LOL.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

My gonzagas are nowhere near that impressive 🤣

God, that opening scene is so chilling.....a great tone switch from the campy 4th movie. Really shows you how absolutely brutal that fight with Drago was. I've always appreciated that part.

@mcgilj1

8 ай бұрын

There's a line in Creed II that relates to that .. and it's really great how serious that film took on what could have been the campier entries.

@cooldude913

8 ай бұрын

@mcgilj1 Yes, exactly. Creed II is massively slept on imo, that movie was excellent in how it really transformed Rocky 4 into something a bit more real and tragic. Exploring the brutal aftermath of how the events in that film affected the lives of everyone involved in those fights.

@mcgilj1

8 ай бұрын

@@cooldude913 yes.. All 3 Creed films are worth a watch.. Even 3.. But I still have some major story issues with it though.. but it carries on the legacy quite successfully.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

It is! You come down HARD from that high!

Cant wait for my comedy request The Heavenly Kid, from 1985

Cant wait for your reaction to #6 (“Rocky Balboa”)

@Metzwerg74

8 ай бұрын

and i hope, She reacts to paulies deleted scene too....

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

Watch this space in a couple weeks!

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

@@Metzwerg74 I will make sure to seek that out!

The thing about Rocky not wanting to have Robert fight was a metaphor for him not wanting his son Sage who played him to follow him into acting. That why he cast him. He said he would get him one job and then never help him again. It also reenforced the metaphor

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

Wow 😮

Thank you lady for reacting Rocky V I love the ending credits with the song "The Measure of a Man" performed by Elton John. Next time reacts Rocky Balboa (Rocky VI)

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

I loved the song too 💜 Balboa will be ready in the next couple weeks

I enjoyed it too. Fyi, the boy who played Tommy gunn was an actual boxing superstar. Ironically, his life as a boxer diminished for the same reasons portrayed in the movies.

The movie gets a bad rep, but the at least the dialogue is still entertaining as hell lol and George Washington Duke is BY FAR the best thing about this movie 😂

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

The PARADE 😂

The guy who plays Tommy was a real boxer and the grandson of John Wayne

Rocky fought Ivan Drago and prevailed but with great consequences! With Rocky unable to fight and the loss of financial security Rocky takes in a young fighter who betrays him. This is a great movie. It is very underrated. It is well worth your time.

@RhetoricalThrill

6 ай бұрын

I think so too!

its a very good and underrated movie. for 1 thing , it is probably the most REALISTIC movie in the franchise, certainly more believable than all but rocky 1. internet trolls tend to hate 5 but love 6, let me predict, since you have good taste, you will like 6 far LESS than 5. tommy morrison (tommy gunn) was a real fighter and a far worse human being than his character in this film. the only good thing i can say about him is that he was convincing in this role, as a piece of garbage. stallone's original script called for his own character's death in the street fight, but the studio persuaded him that he couldnt kill this iconic character. stallone felt that spoiled the stakes, and lowered the drama, and has caused many to misinterpret his words with the falsehood "stallone himself hated the film". um, how can one write something they "hate"? its odd how many people hate on this movie, but seem to watch everyone's reaction to it, presumably to get angry at the viewer? i missed your reaction to rocky 4, i'll go watch that. good job with this one.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

I wonder if it was because it was so different, especially after the fourth one, and it wasn't what people expected so they were disappointed. And over time it gets a reputation as being disappointing. There are flaws for sure but I'm happy to include it as a valuable piece of the Rocky story.

@ice-iu3vv

8 ай бұрын

i hope you can be persuaded to watch "chuck" (2017). the "real" rocky balboa. stallone stole a great deal from chuck's story and the ali-wpner fight (1975) for the script of rocky 1. not the adrienne love story etc, but running stairs, collecting for the mob, punching raw meat, and the contrived way such an underrdog was given a chance at the title. chuck also went to the 15th round, and had knocked the champ down. chuck isnt nearly as fine a human being as the rocky character, but stallone lifted a lot from chuck's story, and didnt pay him until an out of court settlement in 2006. chuck is still alive thankfully. stallone also used steroids for rocky 3 and 4, while lundgren (drago) didnt. so , stallone himself isnt as fine a person as the fictional rocky character either. @@RhetoricalThrill

THANK YOU!!! Its wasn't bad at all!! It was real life!!!! Never understood why ppl didn't like it.🤔

I saw it at the cinema in 1990. So I can say that it's a pretty good movie. People didn't like Rocky not fighting in ring. But it was a disagreement which is why Stallone made Balboa. It became a metaphor for him trying to go out swinging literally and figuratively. Perfect way to end series

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

It could have stopped here and I’d have been ok. But turns out he did have one more in him after all, and I’m glad he got the ending after the ending 💜

Great reaction! I'm with you honey, I don't apologize for loving this movie either. I thought it was the perfect, and what should have been the last movie of the franchise. It exposes the seedy business side of boxing, the long-term health risks in the tumultuous family life a fighter must go through, as well as what is family must go through with him. ❤️👍😎💯🔥

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

I can see how the realistic nature of it would be jarring after the bigness and brightness of the previous one. I have the perspective of seeing the series kind of as a whole so to me it feels more like chapters rather than ending each time. Though I would have been just fine to end it here with Rocky and Jr walking into the museum, the photo montage, and the statue fading to black.

@gingerbreadman1969

8 ай бұрын

@@RhetoricalThrill Same here, that would have been a satisfying ending. The last movie, Rocky Balboa I think, is still a must see for a Rocky fan, and I think even it was a good movie although I'd have to rank it my least fav... I take that back. I still prefer it to Rocky 4. That movie was just too unreasonable and over the top for me. 🤨

Did you know that a director named John G Avildsen released a work print Cut to this movie in 2002 ? I like that one a lot better than the theatrical release. It has more emotion, the training with Tommy and Rocky are more serious. Robert is less jealous and he focuses on training I mean you can tell Robert was annoyed. But I think it’s worth a watch.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

Interesting!

This was supposed to be the most END an ending could End, but then it got out Rocky was going to die and people didn't like that A LOT, so now he didn't but they still kept the memorial credits.

@RhetoricalThrill

6 ай бұрын

I don’t think I could Rocky dying 😭

I hope you have heard Weird Al's "Theme From Rocky XIII". I couldn't help but think of it when I saw Rocky Balboa.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

The rye… or the kaiser

Rocky 5 is very good. Always liked it, and it's still good to this day. Fact. It's weird that people are telling reactors to skip this movie. Idiots.

I liked it too. I got to meet Tommy Morrison about a year before he died. I liked the role he played in this different Rocky movie. Subscribing was an easy decision 😁

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

And I appreciate it! 💜

One reason this film got bagged on was as a presumed end for the franchise in 1990. It views better with 2006's Rocky Balboa being the fitting final movie of the series that it is.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

I think that makes a lot of sense

If you thought this movie was depressing on how it took rocky back to the streets just wait till you watch Rocky Balboa

I hated this ending for Rocky and for years this is where the story ended I can only appreciate this movie because of Rocky Balboa moved………… looking forward to seeing your review on that one🙏💙🙏

Tommy Gunn was very mean to Rocky for calling him a robot 🤖.

Your Awesome!!!

@RhetoricalThrill

6 ай бұрын

Well thank you! 😊

@keithwhite221

6 ай бұрын

Have u checked out any Clint Eastwood movies on your channel?

@keithwhite221

6 ай бұрын

Check out "Any Which Way You Can"Clips "Right Turn Clyde, Clyde Scrap The Caddy and Black Widow's Bald 2! Let me know how hard you laughed

I agree out of the franchise this is the worst of all the movies. The bond with father/son is really good, and it gets explored more later in the franchise. I still always almost cry when Mick is like “because Mickey loves ya.” It’s probably the most father son relationship that Rocky ever had. It still gets more deep as you get into it. Stay the course! I love your reactions, please keep doing it.

@RhetoricalThrill

4 ай бұрын

I did Rocky Balboa not long after this one, and Creed will be along soon 💜

@Tomcat088

4 ай бұрын

@@RhetoricalThrill I’m watching it right now and loving it. 👍

After you are done with the Rocky saga and before you go with the Creed saga (also with a Golden Globe performance from Stallone), you gotta Check “Cinderella Man”. A great real life story of boxer Jim Braddock.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

I’ve been recommended it before, it’s definitely on my radar!

I love this movie this one maybe the best

Hi. Just watched your reaction to ROCKY V yesterday. While you convinced me to see this movie in a different way: that of a father losing his connection with his son. I later thought about why I dislike this movie. In the previous ROCKY movies, he faced obstacles that he had to overcome and that became inspirational to the audience. In this movie ROCKY gets knocked down but doesn't get back up (from riches to rags but not back to riches again). So it's not inspirational.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

Thank you for adding your thoughts! I don't see the money as the important part, so that's probably why I don't feel the same way. To me, getting Robert back and accepting himself was the triumph. It's not flashy, no, but it worked for me 💜

I like it, man. I thought it showed the dirty side of boxing. cheers, lady 😊👍

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

It really did! We didn't see the darker parts early on because Mick (😭) was there to protect Rocky just like he said, and then Duke (the good one) was a good man too.

This is my least favorite of the series. But I can't say I've ever seen a *bad* Rocky movie. There's always a very clear message and it always somehow comes back to the family. "Do you like reaching in your pocket and only feeling your leg?" Better only feeling your leg than having to push past his hand in your pocket.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

Yes! It's not the best, not to me anyway, but Rocky is still Rocky and at the end of the day, because I love Rocky, that's the most important thing to me!

Tommy Gunn was actually pro boxer Tommy Gunn. Sadly he lived a very fast lifestyle filled an excess of drugs, guns, alcohol and women. Ended up dying really young of complications from HIV.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

Oh, that is really sad 😞

@travisbickle1552

8 ай бұрын

@@RhetoricalThrill Btw, i meant to say Tommy Gunn was played by Tommy Morrison. 😂

Cannot wait for your reaction to Rocky Balboa (aka "Rocky VI").

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

I plan to do that one the week after next!

You did the right thing.

Rocky 5 is great in that way that it brought us 3 other great Rockys. Because Sly himself felt very unhappy with this movie and decided to continue the story :)

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

I can’t complain about that!

Yes it was Elton. His sound is extremely unique. He's friends with Sly BTW

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

That’s cool!

if adrien dies, im going to assume paulie is putting hits out on people close to rocky

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

Oh jeez, I can't imagine that

It's a good idea to watch all the movies and see what you feel yourself. In several movie franchises, I've noticed a lot of commenters will suggest just skipping some, but I've found I like a lot of movies that are typically dissed. Even if I don't like a movie in a series, I'll always be in favor of the reactor watching them all and making her or his own evaluation. People have different tastes. That said, I understand why people like this movie less, and I think it has a lot to do with Rocky losing his way with his son and going all in on Tommy. In the others he has been down or dispirited, but it was always about his own humility and not a total tranference of his attention from one person to another. I'm going to make a comment on the next movie, regarding Paulie. No spoilers, so I'm going to be extremely vague. Paulie's always been the type of person we all know who is abrupt and tactless and, at times, plain stupid in making decisions. In the next movie, there's a scene that was cut. All I'm going to suggest is to watch the movie, enjoy it, then react to the deleted scene. Cheers!

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

I’ve been told that I need to see the deleted scene, so I definitely want to. I’ll keep in mind that there is one, and we’ll see how it affects what I think, since it sounds important

@dupersuper1938

8 ай бұрын

Agreed. With any Alien or Terminator movie after the first two being the exceptions to the rule.

And if you love Mick (Burgess Meredith) "Grumpy Old Men" and "Grumpier Old Men" are hilarious.. And he gets to play a wild horn dog . Lol ..

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

Oh man, those would be good to put on the list!

I love Rocky V. Yes it isn't up to par with the previous 4 films, but it still packs a PUNCH!

@RhetoricalThrill

5 ай бұрын

😊

The "warnings" you got were because there are 2 types of Rocky fans - There's the 'action' Rocky fans (Rocky 3 and 4), and then there's the drama fans (Rocky 1, 2 5, 6). After Rocky 4 the action fans were expecting more of the same.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

I must be both, because I just love Rocky 😂 I bet it was different seeing them as they released, vs all at once like I did. I could tell that they were all doing different things so I didn't have an expectation as far as tone.

@alexblatchford4147

7 ай бұрын

@@RhetoricalThrillI’m both too! But mostly I love Rocky !

RIP Burt Young

This is a great movie. Paulie deserved to be punched and thrown out on the street and forgotten. He made me angry beyond all sense and reason. Stallone is a fine actor but he was never better than when he played Rocky. I always had a feeling that Sly is like Rocky in real life because the acting was just to real and good.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

I love Rocky so much

Just found your reviews and love them ………… I’ve got some movies you my not know about that are bangers Empire Records ………has a great story and a great soundtrack ………also Dazed and Confused …………young Ben Afleck and a young Mathew McConaughey and also has a great soundtrack

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

Both are movies I plan to do at some point! 😊

Rocky five doesn’t do it for me because what I liked about these films was supporting him and his reasons for why he fights. And even if he fought Union cane at the end, he would’ve just done it for money.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

I can see that. For me this was about showing us Rocky is who he is, inside the ring or out. It's not for money, it's not for show, it's for himself and his family at the end of the day. Just gritty and stripped down. It was different, but in a way I appreciated, though I understand why it might not be that way for everyone.

well by todays movie standard its a masterpiece.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

I did wonder if maybe it's the fact that so much nowadays is terrible kind of softens this one 🤔

I believe thats actually stallones son

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

It is! I learned later he passed away at a young age 😔

@davep6403

8 ай бұрын

@@RhetoricalThrill yeah so sad

And sadly .. Paulie owns the house. Lol . Supposed to be the house from the original film. The only thing not in Rocky's name besides the gym which Mick left to Rocky Jr. (Robert).

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

I totally didn't think about that 😆

Also tommy morrison had a really sad boxing career, was really tipped to be great and was then falsely diagnosed with HIV totally ruined him

@ice-iu3vv

8 ай бұрын

this is false. he ruined himself, and did in fact have hiv. he claimed it was a false diagnosis so he could keep boxing, which endangered everyone he fought ( boxers bleed on each other sometimes). it was all his own fault and he was pure trash, far worse in real life than in this film. dont promote him as any type of tragedy. nothing unfair happened to him, he brought 100% of his problems on himself, then brought those problems to other fighters and the boxing commission.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

Yikes, a sad ending either way

Audiences hated THIS sequel for basically the same reason they also hated the third Halloween movie - because it defied the routine. Creatures of repetition, ya know?

I LIKED THIS ONE ALOT ! BUT I DIDN'T LIKE THE 2ND ONE AT ALL ! THAT ONE I'D PUT AT THE VERY BOTTOM !

I can't wait until you review the Creed movies. They are sad in places though so fair warning.

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

In a weird way, sad is good sometimes 💜

Yeah it was a fitting way to follow up Rocky 4 but it was more to make money let's face it. Because back to the roots was the only way to go at that point unless Rocky fought an alien or a robot. But getting his money back would have killed the point of the piece

@RhetoricalThrill

7 ай бұрын

All sequels are cash grabs to a point, you’re right on that. But if they can keep the characters right that does a lot for me.

@user-dq4bi8jj1l

7 ай бұрын

@@RhetoricalThrill Yes they are. In fact that's probably true of 4. Ending at 3 would've been fine having resolved the character arc of Rocky. Though 4 was a very good political satire of the Cold War. I don't think you were around so you probably couldn't know what it was like going to bed worrying about the world being destroyed or taken over by the Soviets. So when Rocky kicked Drago's butt there was thunderous applause in the cinema. But you have a point about having him fall being realistic. And again it was the way to go. Plus as an Italian American I loved the Italian Philadelphia aspect in it that was in 1 and 2. Gloria the pet shop owner, Andy the bartender, Father Carmine etc.

I love how unapologetic you are about standing your ground and defending Rocky V from 1990. Honestly I’ve always hated until about my third or fourth viewing of this fourth sequel of the Rocky franchise. It’s a guilty pleasure movie and i find myself to enjoy it every time when i binge watch my Rocky collection on DVD. That flashback scene with Mickey hits the feels every time i watch it. I’ll say it here and now… Rocky V is a good movie and i really don’t give a phuck who says or thinks otherwise however I’ll admit the street fight ending is weak and i really cringe every time but seriously it’s a worthwhile watch if you’re a fan of the franchise and if not that’s understandable if you find that it’s a letdown or just sorely disappointing throughout the runtime. Rocky V to me is a solid contender and a real knockout even though it falls short against Goodfellas, Home Alone, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Ghost, and Pretty Woman. I didn’t hear no bell! 🥊🏆#Rocky #SylvesterStallone #1990 #RIPSageStallone

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

Someone I know who doesn't like it had a really good explanation for me, namely that it was anticlimactic for what at the time was supposed to be the finale of the series. And in that sense I can see it being a disappointment, especially after the bombastic Part IV. As part of an overall story, which I know has more to tell, I like it!

@timothymorris157

8 ай бұрын

@@RhetoricalThrill I’m with you RT! I like what the movie had to offer but also what it shows and tells us from beginning to end.

As I said before, this movie is bad only in comparison to the rest of the franchise. And I think *Rocky Balboa* is a very worthy close to the story (and the *Credd* movies are a good continuation of the saga).

And no..Drago literally beat what smarts he picked up since 2 out of him. Rocky was even dumber in this one.. It was kinda jarring for me to see it.. As for the how is that legal? Ask several celebrities who were ripped off at the time.. Willy Nelson i believe was one of them. He got scammed out of money. And had to work the road for decades to pay off the IRS.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

Pathetic how people take advantage and scam others, old as time but I still hate it.

First Rocky was 76 not 77

Newly subscribed and I didn't like Paulie either. You made me laugh.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

I appreciate you being here! And I’m glad I could make you laugh 😊

Hi there

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

Hi!

I like Rocky V too. Sue me.

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you don't have to apologize, but do question your movie taste. 🙂

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

🤣 very fair actually

I love rocky 5 my favorite out all rocky but rocky 1 but other 2 3 4 ok just not for me and i don't care if people don't like what i say your input doesn't mean nothing to me

Tommy Gunn is a detestable character.,in addition to being useful to Rocky , he also turned against Balboa. In addition to being arrogant ,he proved to be unintelligent as he was manipulated by unscrupulous business men . Despite being a fictional character, Tommy Gunn showed that his behavior is one of the worst examples.

@RhetoricalThrill

8 ай бұрын

Rocky trusted him, so I wanted to trust him 😩 If only everyone could love like Rocky