Came here for a transalp review ended up watching an Africa twin review

This was an excellent presentation ! Thanks!

Pretty good video. Enjoyed listening and the video footage was just right somehow

Useful comparisons to the AT 👍

Great review of the Africa Twin. I saw some exerts of thee Transalp in there too 😆

Not sure I'm really on board with the comparison to the Africa Twin. In terms of off road vs on road intentions the Trans Alp is definitely more a big CB500X than it is a mini Africa Twin to my mind. Even the new V-strom, which had always been a heavily road biased ADV, has more travel and clearance than the Transalp if I recall. This is by no means a bad thing, makes it an excellent road bike, but I feel like it's not aiming for the same sort of folks as the Africa Twin with it's more off road orientated setup. If it had cruise control it'd be on the short list to replace my old V-strom 1000 one day. I still really can't understand how none of the big four's middleweight ADVs offer it while the likes of KTM, Aprillia and even Moto Guzzi do. Truly baffling.

Can't wait for your review on Honda XL750 vs Suzuki VStrom 800~ the whole world is waiting lol

Nice video Bob. Thank you for your thoughts and insights. 👍😎🇦🇺

Is this about the Transalp, or the Africa Twin. It’s difficult to know. Why not just review the Transalp?

@BikeRiderReviews

Жыл бұрын

I think if you listen to video at the start, he mentions there have been a lot of questions regarding the comparisons between the Trans Alp and the Africa twin, hence covering the request. I found it helpful as I'm trying to choose between a used Africa Twin or a new Trans Alp, so it was helpful to hear his thoughts on the bikes back to back.

@papachis9535

Жыл бұрын

@@BikeRiderReviews Fair comment, and thanks for the reply. However, for those of us in the potential market for the Transalp (rather than a C B500X) at this time then a nuts and bolts review of that bike would have been helpful, rather than riding it along and saying virtually nothing about it at all. Nevertheless, I understand your needs and respect them. In retrospect, perhaps, it might have been better to do the comparison after a full review of the Transalp itself. Then everyone would be happy. It’s just life.

@BikeRiderReviews

Жыл бұрын

@Papa Chis Yep I guess we all want and like different things, the world would be a boring place if we all rode the same things. Ride safe. 👍

@tonebonetones

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Too much Africa Twin focus.

@pggp273

Жыл бұрын

It would be worth doing a word count of Transalp against Africa twin. I'll give you 10/11 on that Africa twin is mentioned more often. Which is a bit odd on a Transalp review 🤔

I'd be tempted but... Tubed tyres? No way. If I get a puncture, I plug it, reinflate and ride off in 10 minutes. No way am I sitting at the side of a busy road in the rain and try to get the tyre off the rim without damaging the rims or hoping roadside recovery turn up. If it has to be tubed tyres, I'll pick a different bike. 🙄

Cruise. At. Least. Optional! If this rig (and the Suzuki) is designed to put on the miles, then it should be at least an option. You don't want it, don't get it. But for those who rack up miles, specially on highways on their way to wherever, it's a hugely welcome feature.

@MikeKirkReloaded

Жыл бұрын

This +1. All the hardware is there for cruise: I'm not paying for an ADV bike without it.

@TheNumbnail

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree , those throttle wedge things are crap , my last 3 bikes had cruise, no cruise no sale to me . Who can ride several days 10-12 hours without cruise,a robot ?

This is a great video if you want to learn about the Tenere or the Africa Twin.

Had 2 ATs a 2017 and 2020 loved them both. But started doing BDRs and at 5'8 they were a handful with 60lbs of luggage. Bought a T7 good bike as well but not enough power for me. Went through the gears fast and still kinda of top heavy. I'm first on the list at my dealer for a Transalp when they come to the USA. I will put some good dirt tires and should be just fine.

@SimonBrisbane

Жыл бұрын

It has much less suspension travel. That could be a big deal if you’re riding BDRs

@arihZOR

Жыл бұрын

​@@SimonBrisbane its 10mm difference both front and rear. Hardly "much less"

@Kai-ze2rb

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it´s much fuss these days about some minor details that can be fixed. Put in springs at the right rate for your weight, the right fork oil, appropriate tires and then try to exploit the potential of the bike - might take years to develop the skills where you could say, that it is not enough what the bike delivers.

Amazing value for the money. Well done Honda

love my modified 700 transalp (last of the real honda vtwins), if i was looking to change it would be a norden 901 or tuareg

It’s a nice bike. But I think £9.5k is expensive. £7k for a Hornet is better value if you ride more on the road. This vs the Africa Twin is a tough decision though. The AT is a good looking bike but heavy and tall. The XL750 will sell itself to those who want one bike to do it.

When is this thing dropping in the US?

They would sell so many more of them with just one missing feature. Cruise control. If it's a touring biased ADV bike cruise is a must in the US market where destinations are so far away.

As someone who is 6ft4 and has only had experience on dirtbikes, this and the new V-strom are looking pretty promising. I live in Houston soo travelling at highway speeds is a must, and having a bit of offroad capability helps get me to my parents house in a logging town or go camping.

@marcusgeorge1825

Жыл бұрын

I’m only an inch shorter and grew up riding dirt bikes as a kid 40+ years ago. Have done a few years of just racing (home track was Phillip Island) and these days I’m lucky to have bikes for each intended purpose. If I want to spend decent time on dirt then I trailer a bike, same scenario for the occasional track day and a couple of bikes just for the streets. However, if you are looking for a bike that is capable of the highways and some light off roading then I don’t think you will go wrong with either of the bikes you have mentioned. If it was me at 6’3”, I’d be going with the Suzuki. That suspension it has is worth the price difference alone. Plus you get the accessories the Honda has as standard. Plus when you add the sump guard, crash bars to the Honda the curb weights will be much closer. Good luck.

@steve-wu7jp

Жыл бұрын

The Suzuki looks better as it has a quick shifter and fully adjustable suspension which are a must imo

@marcusgeorge1825

Жыл бұрын

@@steve-wu7jp Yep. Agreed.

@roadwarrior8560

Жыл бұрын

@@steve-wu7jp does the Suzuki have cruise?

@marcusgeorge1825

Жыл бұрын

@@roadwarrior8560 Unfortunately neither do. Not even an optional accessory.

What jacket are you wearing, Bob?

T.A 750 Not cheap if You live in Norway with all the crazy taxes…Then all the extra accesories needed since it is pretty naked out the box. Second hand A.T CRF 1000 2016-2019 with most accesories included might be a cheaper option. Furthermore what is the true quality of the Honda accesories i wonder. Allthough they look great. Dekorbars ? plastic panniers, waterproof ? Bashplate, thickness ? Etc Etc Where is the battery & airfilter located ? Where to place My Garmin gps ?

Best value for the money period

@andrewkitchenuk

Жыл бұрын

That would be the Royal Enfield Himalayan.

🆒 bike, Yamaha tenere 700 or this are both badass bikes. I'm loving my cb500x tho. 16 🦷⚙️ & it's fast enough for the 🛣️ don't really need to much more of a bike. I don't do much off-roading I just like the seating position 'n the look of the bike 👌 mine is the 2019 non abs model tho

if Honda put 750 cc on crf300 rally, maybe their customers are a lot happier.

The AT Adventure Sports holds more fuel higher up on the taller chassis. The higher center of gravity is enough to ruin that bikes handling off road. The Transalp will feel much better in that regard and be easier by far to pick up by yourself.

@naturalbornleniwiec

Жыл бұрын

I'm a girl. No problems with ATAS offroad. It's not a dirtbike, but it's still agile, easy to balance and predictable.

Is it available in singapore?

I think Honda blew it with the 750 Transalp. They built an adventure bike for how most adventure bike owners will ride and not the bike they want. Judging by all the videos and comments under those videos, the first thing most adventure bike owners do is modify them to be more dirt capable. I read that the typical adventure bike owner spends $2,000 upgrading their bike with most of it for improved dirt worthiness. Honda put the Transalp further away (and therefore more upgrading) to where most adventure bike owners want thier bikes to be, regardless of how they actually ride.

@sumpoiler

Жыл бұрын

like most people do is spent about $2k on upgrading a new bike to suit them selfs but if you buy a transalp and spend 2k on suspension its still going to cheaper than a T7 and the just be a capable as a T7 in the dirt if not better with more power

@Graybeard_

Жыл бұрын

@@sumpoiler Time will tell. I predict that first the Transalp 750 will not do that well in sales. Second, Honda will adjust and make the Transalp 750 more like its big brother the Africa Twin. From my reading folks have been asking for a 750 version of the Africa Twin for awhile now. I don't see it yet in the Trans Alp 750 (Or I'd have likely bought it). I instead went with the Norden 901 Expedition.

@blackskunk54

Жыл бұрын

@@Graybeard_ The Transalp 750 is selling really well because it is what most people want, especially in the UK. I have ordered one.

@Graybeard_

11 ай бұрын

@@blackskunk54 Congrats! I agree. Most people will be happy with the trans alp because it is weighted towards comfort on street, and yet still trail and dirt road worthy. Many won't buy one because they think they will be doing much more off road than they actually will be.

Honda designated it a XL750 not a CRF750. The Africa was deemed worthy of the title CRF1100.

Not really clear on the likes of the bike. Garbled with the Africa twin endorsement. Would have liked to have heard about how it felt over bumps, bottoming out?, Power going up hills? Balance?

No cruise control? C'mon Honda, All the bells and whistles including phone connectivity but no CC is a bit disappointing. Like having a cake with no icing...a story with no ending.

How do you think the Transalp would fare if you put on proper offroad tires? For the price i would buy the Transalp :)

@motobob

Жыл бұрын

Still not as good as a Tenere or Africa Twin (it's lower and more road-biased than both), but still easily good enough for gravel roads like the ones we were on

They should have just bring back XLV750R put in fuell injected hydroulic valve engine 800-900cc . Fully adjustible suspensions. Keep the fuel tank like where 650GS or KTM 890S keeps. With a smart desing multi or infinite position windscreen. Maintaining the seat hight no more higher than BMW F750GS idealy while still keeping 21inch front wheel setup all around spoked tubeless tires. That would be perfect . I don't realy nead all those riding modes as long as i have ABS with on off button that function while while moving.

Just last week i bought a Tuareg 660 which is almost the same price as the Transalp and the Suzuki 800DE. The Tuareg has lots of tech in it though and I don’t get why XL50 and 800DE wont have cruise control (I just need cruise control in my life for traveling and touring :D). Time will tell whether Aprilia is as durable as the Japanese manufacturers, but I‘m not up for paying the same amount of money for less bike. Great video as always! Love this format!

@nevangelos9277

Жыл бұрын

You will become best friends with mechanics at service.

@davidmallia628

Жыл бұрын

So many trolls, so many haters, so many in denial, and envious of how good the Tuareg really is. The reliability issue is the only issue where they can point at, and it is a myth to a great extent. So enjoy your superior Tuareg.

@francescoporcari8597

Жыл бұрын

​@@nevangelos9277 any evidence of what you're saying regarding the Tuareg?

@NorCalSaint

Жыл бұрын

@@davidmallia628 - T7 and Tuareg are in a sweet spot IF you go on some aggressive trails... But most 'adventure' bikes never see anything more than a dirt/gravel road.

@nevangelos9277

Жыл бұрын

@@francescoporcari8597 Μy friend had it for a year and every 2 months was at service due problems. He sold it.

Cruise and DCT please Honda

the chassis of this bike has not got low part!its a street bike chassis.i dont know...ok,transalp ownres are not going to do extreme enduro,just go throught dirt roads.but,how this chassis will behave in the twisties,on an on-off bike?

To summarize it the bike so good that you are comparing it to the same brand

Put DCT in it, and I’d probably swap my Africa Twin for one. 😉

@stefstaf

Жыл бұрын

Exactly my thought!!

@sachinwadhwani4810

Жыл бұрын

I thought so too. But it'll add another 30 kilos to the weight and again almost as heavy as the Africa Twin. So the advantage of a lighter Honda ADV is nullified.

@Itchybite

Жыл бұрын

@@sachinwadhwani4810 10kg not 30kg.

@sachinwadhwani4810

Жыл бұрын

@@Itchybite the DCT weighs only 10kg more than a manual? My bad then.

Nice motorcycle I will buy that soon😅😅😅

You keep comparing this to the Africa Twin. Sure it is 3000 cheaper but why is this 2500 more than the hornet? Is the componentry that much better?

... but no cruise control 😢

@marcelhavetta4231

Жыл бұрын

Do you really need it ? Didn't use it in 5 years of riding and 100000km

@bobz1736

Жыл бұрын

@@marcelhavetta4231 - I loved it on my Triumph Tiger 👍

@chriscurrie5597

Жыл бұрын

Honda really missed the market, with no cruise control... Its become a standard feature now

@danielbesco1722

Жыл бұрын

Just why

@Nick_of_Time

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. A lot of my touring rides involve hundreds of kilometres of sealed roads to get somewhere interesting. No traffic, no towns, so it’s nice to be able to hit ‘set’ and relax the right hand.

Not to be a spec warrior: If Honda would’ve upped the suspension components I’d be a buyer. I’m skeptical if they pulled a CRF300L regarding suspension. And then the “Honda tax”….

Not sure why al lthe reviewers diss its offroad ability when, it seems, they had about 10 miles of graded road to test on.

Is it a "fun motor"? I think the average buyer does more touring and street than dirt so I think the higher revving motor is probably fine. But the price of these is right at what used AT's are going for. Tough sell to buy a new one of these vs a used AT possibly set up with luggage and stuff.

@2-WheelsMoveTheSoul

6 ай бұрын

Hey! I'm in the same boat. Also, in India these are selling for around USD 16k (crazy import duties & taxes). You can get a used '21 Tiger 900 RP or '19 CRF1000L AT for the same price.

With both Honda and Suzuki new adventure bikes with no cruise control it is a shame!

That transalp 750 is much unlike any Honda. Very rarely does Honda tune engines to 120hp/litre. Usually below 100hp/litre. This bike is just as powerful as the 790 adv and it also has a lighter wet weight. If an adjustable rear shock like the Tenere's KYB is fitted instead of the 'No-Showa', this transalp is a winner!

@sumpoiler

Жыл бұрын

But Its A Bit cheaper than a T7 so can afford to throw some money on the suspension and the bike will still be cheaper than the T7

@aapa3732

Жыл бұрын

@@sumpoiler I have been maintaining a now highly modded CRF250L since 2013. it was dumbed down from 26hp CBR250R spec to only less than 23hp. It's now in CBR250R spec of 26hp plus stage one Yoshimura to about 28+hp, more powerful than the dumbed down latest CRF300L. I had used an old XL00R Showa rebound adjustable shock as the OEM no-Showa is truly rotten.

Hey, I happen to like my 500x headlight 🤣😂😅

The bike was designed, produced and marketed for 3rd World SE Asian countries…..

How did you see anything in this foggy helmet?

Putting the Hornet name to an inline twin was/is and unimaginable blasphemy. Putting the Transapl logo on any inline setup is a blasphemy, too. I understand all the reasons, and I had a Honda inline twin (PC26), loved it. Probably this 750 is a fine all-rounder engine, too. BUT. Hornets és Transaps so far had their own, very distinctive character. That is where the loss is. The sound, the power delivery, the vibration ...

What is that helmet that you are wearing?

@Honda_Africa_Twin

Жыл бұрын

It looks like LS2 Explorer to me. Might be wrong.

To bad no DCT

why tubed tires?

@andrewkitchenuk

Жыл бұрын

If you damage a wheel rim whilst riding off road you won't lose inflation with a tube but with tubeless you're fucked.

@godowskie

Жыл бұрын

right, but this motorcycle isn't for "hard" offroad, and puncture on a asfalt will take serious time to fix. Maybe I am wrong 🤔

Funny how 10k is meant to make us feel it's cheap, I'll just pop down the shops and grab one

No adjustable suspension unlike the twin and Vstrom for those more than 70kg.

Aprilia Tuareg 🚀🏍️💪🏻

@andrewkitchenuk

Жыл бұрын

Need any parts? That'll be 3 months wait, Sir.

@aramparonian7914

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewkitchenuk not in Europe

“Tech Package”…how difficult is Cruise Control 😂. The T7 has the CP2 design excuse, Honda and Suzuki do not…

Can I pop wheelies on this bike like the tenere 700? Or will it damage the bike?

@flexywing

Жыл бұрын

You only "damage" if you fall off 😅

@flexywing

Жыл бұрын

Sorry couldn't resist that, if its anything like the Hornet, then yes, that engine is made for being a hooligan (just got my new Hornet)

@nevangelos9277

Жыл бұрын

Are you kidding? Tenere has 58hp only on rear wheel and Transalp has 88hp on rear wheel both tested on Dynojet. Africa 1100 has also 88hp on rear wheel but of course way better torgue.

@willielewis2548

Жыл бұрын

@@flexywing don't worry about it I'm not sensitive 😄😄 I never rode a motorcycle before I've learned a lot but I'm still learning. Getting ready for my motorcycle safety course soon.

@flexywing

Жыл бұрын

@@willielewis2548 Not sure they teach wheelieing at Safety courses.. (They should I think) Good luck with your biking journey

I don't understand why they chose spoked wheels with tubes on a supposedly 80/20 onroad offroad bike, the only reason would be marketing to people who care more about the looks.

It's more like a road bike yes? front 19-inch tubeless would be better. No quick shift what an error.

@chrishart8548

Жыл бұрын

I thought it did have a quick shifter. The old one did have a 19" front wheel. They should probably do another version with 17/19 wheels maybe even cast wheels

Has it got stainless spokes, cruise control ,tubeless tyres or backlit switch gear…..NO So why is it good value then? I hope Honda up their game for the NT750.

@chrishart8548

Жыл бұрын

I hope it had stainless steel spokes I thought they were a given. I had a wheel built and the spokes started to rust then I heard about the Africa twin having issues. Its unforgivable really.

Curb weight; not kerb weight 😁

When T7 and Tuareg 660 are already available on the market you should either come up with something really good or don’t embarrass yourself with another road bike with the adventure dressing.

Come on the AT has similar power but 40% more torque delivered 1000 rpm lower. There's no real competition.

@nevangelos9277

Жыл бұрын

It's bigger, with 30kg, 4K more.

@Ritte13

Жыл бұрын

The only competition going on is which will rust the fastest 😂

@francescoporcari8597

Жыл бұрын

Actually 18 Kg (not 40), but what you said just proves my point. The AT is on another level, in terms of suspension, engine, electronics, refinement. At 14k the AT is not cheap, but worh it.

Interesting comparison and review. I have enjoyed an Africa Twin DCT for 45.000km, including offroad: it's a great bike worth its price. I changed for an 890 AdvR for lighter and sportier manners. That Transalp 750 is a bargain, but I don't like the style at all, lacks of peps and very cheap looking.

@steliosasmargianakis5188

10 ай бұрын

May I ask please how did you find the KTM in terms of reliability and also in what you think is much better than AT? I'm still not sure which one I get of those two!

@gillesgenete9598

10 ай бұрын

@@steliosasmargianakis5188 as far as I experienced KTMs, 990adv, 450excf, 500excf and 890R, I bever had any issue. With my AT CRF1000DCT, the 2 switchnoxes on habdld bar were replaced under warranty for dust ingress, nothing else, so I rate KTM as reliable as Honda. The main difference is KTM/Sports vs Honda/tourer. Like a BMW vs a Mercedes. Handling is easier on the 890 vs AT, thanks to lower weight, lower gravity center, sharper chassis/suspension.

@steliosasmargianakis5188

10 ай бұрын

@@gillesgenete9598 thank you very much for the reply. My main factor (might sound strange) is how stable is the bike in strong side winds. I do nearly twice a week a specific route to my work (356km total) which a big part of it has super strong side winds and is a pain with nearly every singe bike that I tried in the past. I haven't tried however with the 790 or 890 as it looks due to much lower placed weight of the tank might be more stable in side winds. I have to find one for a test ride.....

@gillesgenete9598

10 ай бұрын

@@steliosasmargianakis5188 for strong side wind, I remember difficult experience with the Africa on road from Cairnryan to Glasgow: Africa did well. No experience so far with 890, but I guess Africa would be more stable from more weight and more inclined fork geometry.

Looks like you fogged up there!

Pinlock! :)

A lighter, better handling, more manageable and less expensive - Transalp.

Nope! Not a v-twin!

I hate the 500x-type headlights - looks like rip-off from Kawasaki Versys 300. Instead the Africa Twin's headlight family-look should have been carried over.

looks like a squashed Africa Twin...

Just review the damn bike as it is

Honda, please bring these to the US so I don't have to buy a 800DE VStrom instead, and make them reasonably priced like they are in other markets. Thanks.

Please don't compare the vanilla Transalp with the wonderful Africa Twin. Sacrilege.

It sounds a lot like the old 650 VStrom.

@anxiousappliance

Жыл бұрын

no, it doesn't.

Still too expensive .

So I think what he is saying is don't buy this honda, get the other honda.😅

I wish these bloody reviewers would just talk about the bike they are on and tell us the practical info on it like where is the air filter etc? waffling on about other bikes is bolox.

The Transalp is not available in the USA which is BS!!!!

If I wanted an off-road bike, I would go for a Honda CRF300, not a big and clumsy 750 or a 1000 cc. 😁

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