Robert Mugabe "When I become leader, all in Zimbabwe will be trillionaires". He was not wrong.

@dnlfrcrh8521

3 жыл бұрын

@Richard Schiffman Many of them rather starve to death than having a white president

@mwanikimwaniki6801

3 жыл бұрын

@@dnlfrcrh8521 I'd understand why

@user-rc6td2tx2z

2 жыл бұрын

@@dnlfrcrh8521 total nonsense. REAL Zimbabweans (Rhodesians) aren't racist.

@mwanikimwaniki6801

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-rc6td2tx2z lol. Is that why Rhodesia was the only state with black and white segregation together with its neighbor to the south? Fuck Rhodesia.

@mwanikimwaniki6801

2 жыл бұрын

@@mordekaishekelbergiv.4211 False. Zimbabwe is a huge country but has a tiny population.

ThamesTV forgot to mention that America's independence was _illegal_ too.

@acedarkblade1552

4 жыл бұрын

I honestly think America should've stood up for Rhodesia and told England to fuck off

@iandemontfort4276

4 жыл бұрын

Well said Mr Botha.

@charlesuzozie5747

4 жыл бұрын

@@danroley7850 I think your view is very narrow from what I have seen in the news both blacks and whites have been attacked.

@mihanich

4 жыл бұрын

And UK is an illegal entity set up by the ancestors of illegal immigrants on Celtic soil.

@loyalwestbriton5410

4 жыл бұрын

@@mihanich ooooo you are a stupid one.

looked like a beautiful and functioning country, 20 years later they were waking up in the morning to 100 billion dollar bank notes and 95% unemployment.

@CHARLIEMAD33

5 жыл бұрын

@Wonder Boy I see their educational system suffered as well.

@CertifiedRealism

4 жыл бұрын

Then they flee to England and have the audacity to talk smack about white people

@robinsoncrusoe7996

4 жыл бұрын

@Wonder Boy would be nice if all immigrants in europe do the same and go back to africa wonderland. For some reason they don't want to do that, and what's more interesting thousands more are still trying to get there, out from those africas shitholes they created.

@robinsoncrusoe7996

4 жыл бұрын

@Wonder Boy actually my country wasn't colonial superpower but still- hard to steal something from someone who even cant dig it from the ground.

@robinsoncrusoe7996

4 жыл бұрын

@Wonder Boy btw that's funny, how you change topic. Your migrants are fleeing from black rule wonderlands because of colonialism 100 years ago? Hahah interesting

This is like déjà vu with what's happening in South Africa now

@danroley7850

4 жыл бұрын

we are moving on the ANC rat bstrds now! Funny thing...the ANC Commies have made many Seriousl dangerous African Nations Angry. *Dan Roley. Indianapolis. * research staff. *South Africa rescue ops.

@victorzodinmawia7880

4 жыл бұрын

now America.

@mkgzt

4 жыл бұрын

South Africa doesn't just have an anc problem , they're just the enablers that blame apartheid on everything. The main problem is tribalism... Hell, they're even killing blacks from other countries mob style because their "successful immigrants"...

@playboicartiismydad4842

4 жыл бұрын

Its been 25 years since the supposed "genocide/civil war" thats apparently always around the corner

@playboicartiismydad4842

4 жыл бұрын

@WolraadWoltemade 1652 .....what are you talking about? "Fight" im so tired of you lunatics its like you have never left the house

Whenever you see Ian Smith in interviews he does seem to speak honestly and rationally. Something our leaders could learn from.

@jackmatthews4836

5 жыл бұрын

The West of Europe is dominated by Women leaders who don't have any children, such as Theresa May and Chancellor Merkel. This means that really they do not have a vested interest in creating a better country than what was given to them originally. They almost have no connection at all to their respective lands and thus have no real reason to deliver. This can be seen in their absolutely horrendous governance and the insane levels of immigration we have. Ian Smith was different. First of all he was born in Rhodesia, fought for and almost died for his country in World War 2, then became a farmer and raised a family, and then reluctantly became a politician because he was genuinely concerned about the Rhodesian people being left to the dogs due to the push for black majority rule. And what's more, he stayed on as a political leader in Zimbabwe, vowing to stand up for the white Zimbabweans who would have otherwise had no representation whatsoever. In a nutshell, Smith was the among the greatest, if not the greatest politician of all time, he had a farmer's tie to the land and he genuinely loved his country and its people. The corrupt globalists in the UN, USA and U.K. wanted him gone because he represented everything they weren't.

@jtrev492

5 жыл бұрын

Jeff Bozo the fuck is a thicko?

@Gunzberg

5 жыл бұрын

Find the video of Merkel binning the German flag, tells you everything you need to know about her

@BlissfulshadowXD

5 жыл бұрын

@Wonder Boy You realise he was born in Rhodesia right?

@billygiles3276

5 жыл бұрын

Our leaders are owned by Zionist bankers and say what there told to say so they will never speak like Ian smith who wasn’t a puppet.

What a tragedy that Zimbabwe became a failed state. Africa's heroic freedom fighter Mugabwe had 20 000 - 30 000 Matabele Zimbabweans murdered shortly after independence. Not a murmer was heard from BBC or CNN

@recepto

4 жыл бұрын

@@4abrownafrica939 Ummm..if the Zim revolution is so successful why are so many Zimbabwean economic refugees in South Africa. Just asking

@4abrownafrica939

4 жыл бұрын

@@recepto Ask the EU and America that question!

@Don-fu2ib

4 жыл бұрын

@@4abrownafrica939 Zimbabwean here. Unfortunately, ours is indeed a failed state. The government has failed its own people and we the people have lost all trust. Everyone who can is leaving even I, no matter how much I love my country, am forced to seek refuge in another country. The unemployment rate is unbelievable, those employed are not rewarded as they should for their jobs. Naturally, there should be people working towards a solution but there isn't any evidence of this which further divides the country. I really want to do everything I can to help out but as someone fresh out of university, I would not survive a year.

@4abrownafrica939

4 жыл бұрын

@@Don-fu2ib Every sub-Saharan "country" was put there to serve Europe and are all failures for that reason! The idea that one country exist to serve another country is ridiculous and unsustainable! Its only a matter of time till they all collapse as they should!

@Don-fu2ib

4 жыл бұрын

@@4abrownafrica939 I wouldn't know about whether or not the countries are set up to serve another country but if that's true then yes, it wouldn't take off. African countries such as Zimbabwe struggle to gain a foothold largely due to a political structure they had to abruptly adopt.

The ladies in the first part explain the need for the second amendment perfectly

@billygiles3276

5 жыл бұрын

I agree totally I’m a Londoner and in Britain the government stole our guns years ago but the criminals are still heavily armed and were totally defenceless. Don’t EVER give up your guns, they are your last resort to self defence against a regular criminals and to perform revolution against tyranny which I’m sorry to say we are all facing right now in the western world.

@mwangiirungu3670

4 жыл бұрын

@Ewarton Charlton Exactly...the damn boars were lucky the southern African people are soo humble ...in East Africa it was a different scenarios

@mwangiirungu3670

4 жыл бұрын

@Ewarton Charlton ..But anyway my country is Kenya and we don't have this racial stuff going here coz the only other race that is here are Indians ....

@mwangiirungu3670

4 жыл бұрын

@Ewarton Charlton ..not really here...haha...and the Arabs you talking about ...are not that many maybe like 1% and Indians are like 2%

@TheGrenadier97

4 жыл бұрын

"thousands of years of existence, thousands of years of farming" And we all know very well how they're so good at these things nowadays, and how Zimbabwe is a powerful country, par example. There's evn a lot of billionaires.

Still better than Zimbabwe

@HassanAli-zd3oh

6 жыл бұрын

Owen Bunny fuck you

@rjs19862011

6 жыл бұрын

What the brotha said. Evil, racist, cowardly, colonist loving piece of shit.

@HassanAli-zd3oh

6 жыл бұрын

Unkulunkulu Ali are you talking about me brother

@rjs19862011

6 жыл бұрын

Hassan Ali Are you a colonists, racists loving piece of shit? I believe not. Pay attention akhi.

@greyhoundsintheslips3713

6 жыл бұрын

Look it's over now. But could you stay in Africa? Why are masses of Africans coming over to Britain.

Is this bleeding heart journalist still alive? I'd really enjoy him doing a documentary on Zimbabwe today.

@cupidstunt8136

3 жыл бұрын

foreign reporters are not welcomed. Filming anything could get you in trouble

@sliperysid

3 жыл бұрын

@Who said it was me? Thank you for the update.

@ratelmike8825

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah that pussy would piss down his leg

@CarrotConsumer

3 жыл бұрын

@@ratelmike8825 lol. He was out there in a war zone while you sit behind a computer.

@flyingjackcarpentry9394

3 жыл бұрын

@Sagaris Starlight if they didn't have double standards they'd have no standards. It was evil for Europeans to emigrate to Africa, the americas and Australia for a better life. But its also evil for Europeans to complain about about the reverse happening.

The loss of Rhodesia is the greatest tragedy of the last 50 years

@MultiRingtail

5 жыл бұрын

Wonder Boy Don’t worry, China will be taking you next.

@arnoldhuman2856

5 жыл бұрын

@Wonder BoyYou can admit that what has become out of ZIM is not so good. The Blacks had the ruling power and nothing came out. Can people be frustrated about it? People do care and do involve. That is something you can not change.

@arnoldhuman2856

5 жыл бұрын

@Wonder Boy You don't care. But that is not enough. South Africa is flooded with Zimbabwans, they send home money every month. How can you say that only Zimbabwans are importiert for Zimbabwe? South Africa is saving you guys.

@MrGuyJacks

4 жыл бұрын

@Wonder Boy Are you for the repatriation of Africans in Europe back to Africa then?

@philstabler6650

4 жыл бұрын

End of empire

Not able to buy drinks in town after 7pm because he was black . Now blacks have been given the vote he can't buy food any time of the day.

@mrmkhosana6876

5 жыл бұрын

I was in Zimbabwe last month I bought food any time of the day, so don't know what you're on about

@alexb578

5 жыл бұрын

I am Ncube this was 40 years ago

@mrmkhosana6876

5 жыл бұрын

@@alexb578 I know that 🤷🏾‍♂️

@alexb578

5 жыл бұрын

@@mrmkhosana6876 but why did you write your first comment then

@mrmkhosana6876

5 жыл бұрын

@@alexb578 duhh 🙄🙄

So sad that the Bread Basket became the Basket Case.

@cactusrat727

4 жыл бұрын

Daddy Longlegs no that’s product of a communist dictator ship. Plenty of colonial states that became independent turned out just fine. Look at Canada and the US

@jaycee9752

3 жыл бұрын

not true, Rhodesia was under sanctions for 14 years, when did it ever become a bread basket??

@cactusrat727

3 жыл бұрын

Daddy Longlegs conquered people typically are ruled over, that’s how the world works unfortunately. Also how can you say mugabe isn’t communist since he literally took private land from citizens and “redistributed” it among the people.

@cactusrat727

3 жыл бұрын

Daddy Longlegs He didn’t conquer anyone, in fact the closest thing Mugabe did to conquering was when he turned his North Korean trained 5th brigade on the Nedebele during the Gukurahundi. The man received support from the Soviet Union, China, and North Korea, he implemented multiple Leninist policies on health care, land and wealth redistribution, and conducted mass media censorship to prop up his government. The man was a commie who murdered his own people and used the idea of “freedom” to get away with it. Thank god he’s dead and now he’s become the only type of good commie there is, a dead one. Stop trying to defend a man who killed 30,000 of his own people.

@cactusrat727

3 жыл бұрын

Daddy Longlegs I absolutely agree with you on the idea of a tribalistic mindset, and I believe that it’s destroying the United States right now and it’s also a threat to democracy. Not that it really matters but I’m about as close to the middle politically as you can get so if I give off the vibe that I’m some kind of super staunch conservative I apologize because I think they’re just as bad as liberals. I’m trying to tell it like it is, and mugabe was a communist plain and simple. He used a campaign of terror and fear mongering to rally the people of Rhodesia behind his cause, assumed power, and ultimately ran a prosperous nation into the ground. The man was a terrible human being, and the fact that we like to forget that he committed genocidal acts against his own people and we prop him up to be the great hero of black Africans in my opinion is terrible. He’s no better then most colonial rulers and he should be remembered as nothing more then another tyrant who used his own peoples suffering as a means of taking power.

Rhodesia > "Zimbabwe". Mugaugaugabe and his concubines destroyed the place. End point.

@ottereformicus782

4 жыл бұрын

@Rude Boy 77 Watch some People's Veto vids especially about Leopold and guns germs and Steel, it's unbelievable the garbage Blacks are believing from seemingly evident information about history etc.

@loyalwestbriton5410

4 жыл бұрын

@Rude Boy 77 HUR DUR HUR DUR INBWED EUROPEANS..... BRUH INBWED EUROPEANS CONQUERED YOUR ARSE

@cameronschofield6440

4 жыл бұрын

That is a perfectly correct summarised conclusion which I have no quarrel, repeat no quarrel with.

@parchment543

4 жыл бұрын

Daddy Longlegs well lets be fair here. What's the difference between conquering and colonialism? Because if they are the same, then why have states that were previously conquered like Mexico, Germany, and Taiwan doing far better than an African nation that has dipped their toes into racist socialism such as Zimbabwe, South Africa, and tanzania? Is there no personal accountability on the part of these African states for their own failures? I think this whole situation in Africa is a lot more complex then most people give it

@parchment543

4 жыл бұрын

Daddy Longlegs I don't disagree with you on the comparison of other nations but I do have one issue with your diagnoses of African history. You claim that they are behind because of Arab slavery and European slavery, yet are you aware of how ridiculous that is to say? Maybe in parts of Africa that associated with the rest of the world they could be decently advanced like Ethiopia, Sudan, and the west African empires, but the rest of Africa would be more advanced today if not slavery? That's so ridiculous and clearly a left wing post modernists framing of "one practically innocent 'native' population" that would've been perfect if not for "the evil conquering peoples who bullied them from being prosperous." In other words what about the zulus, pigmies, and Shona people make you so naive to think that they wouldn't just be a half naked groups of subsistence farmers and hunters that run around starting wars with each other? Because that's what they were doing before the white man came and...gave them clothes and commercial farming for a start. Which is my problem, there needs to personal responsibility on the part of Bantus (primarily) for their current modern day issues. The colonizers are not to blame because why we're these people so disorganized and obsessed with fighting each other that they couldn't ban together? They are no different from Europeans, they just weren't as successful. These societies are not advanced not because of slavery, but because they chose not to innovate and they have no right to kill those who did.

When I see and hear this, I often wonder why, but when I look back and feel like I really want to cry, I realise then it was all worth the try. With sanctions and against communism, we fought the good fight, in sunshine and in rainand with plenty of pain, I say to myself; If I was given another chance, I'd do it all again. A Proud NON RACIST Rhodesian Forever.

@mwanikimwaniki6801

2 жыл бұрын

Oh welp. A dying breed. You might as well leave us great stories.

@gysgijsbers4202

Жыл бұрын

Do you still live in Zim or did you leave?

@charliemackin9620

Жыл бұрын

The ✡️ sold you down the river. No white lands for white people anymore is literally the plan. Global communism won't be possible with hegemonic white lands. Simple as. The slow death is upon us. We now ALL face RHODESIA!

@gysgijsbers4202

Жыл бұрын

@@charliemackin9620 The ✡ are mostly white too...??? Israel are also fighting for survival now...

@kasikwagoma6740

5 ай бұрын

@rossitherhodie5659, you are weeping for rhodesia, Awww what a pity. I have a suggestion for you, why don't white rhodesians resurrect their dead country in England in a town called Salisbury. After all most of you are descended from white Britons, and the name rhodesia was coined from the nasty, vicious and cold hearted crook of all time Cecil Rhodes who happened to be an Englishman from Britain. You or Cecil were not Africans but europeans... So go and lobby the council in Salisbury to set up the defunct rhodesia there... Africa is ours and it's black African territory. You were outnumbered by 20 to 1 and I am certain that ratio has gone up now.

"It must be inclusive, it must not be seen to leave other people out." says the Bishop in the party that openly butchered and beheaded enemy leaders in front of TV cameras for show.

@vishnuguda6313

3 жыл бұрын

Did Bishop Muzorewa actually do that?

@cricketman1322

3 жыл бұрын

@@vishnuguda6313 i don't think he did. He wasn't part of ZANU/ZANLA or ZAPU/ZIPRA

@humanforfreedom9583

3 жыл бұрын

Haha fucking hell

@DK-cy5mt

3 жыл бұрын

Muzorewa wasn't in either nationalist force, get a grip

@Wickedonezz

2 жыл бұрын

@@DK-cy5mt still was in a militia group

Great to see that 40 years on black majority rule has been such a great success like most other post-colonial African countries.....(shurely shome mishtake, Ed).

@brianmuvuti2102

4 жыл бұрын

Lived in both Rhodesia and Zimbabwe. Zimbabwe is a lot better!

@brianmuvuti2102

4 жыл бұрын

Good riddance to Rhodesia fascist

@lucasgriemsnn9994

3 жыл бұрын

lol

@mandlamasuku7913

2 жыл бұрын

Given that Zimbabwe has been a country under sanctions , it's fairing well

@ianjohngonzales4066

2 жыл бұрын

The country became totally bankrupt except for the thief Mugabe.lol🤣

and now, what about Mugabe? Make Zimbabwe, Rhodesia again.

@jansantel6829

5 жыл бұрын

@trueway82 I dont give a shit about the name and some white africans were racists but the reasonable thing to do was to postpone majority rule. What zimbabwe is today is proof of that

@peytonjanicki5335

4 жыл бұрын

@Wonder Boy why do your people leave and flee your war torn, lack of law, lack of morality, lack of jobs shitty countries and then move into my country and complain that its not like your home? Why is it my countries job to accommodate for you africans immigrants? Why do you move to my country and ignore its values?

@HostileLemons

4 жыл бұрын

@@peytonjanicki5335 Exactly

@mkgzt

4 жыл бұрын

@Wonder Boy because if we're not involved in Africa, Africans would still blame us and say "they're not helping us because we're black"

@castormicah5232

4 жыл бұрын

Not gonna happen! Sorry I guess

Left wing bias has been around for a long time.

@yourdaddy5435

3 жыл бұрын

Sadly. But thankfully, every other nation knows that they are spewing bullshite.

@notundermywatch3163

2 жыл бұрын

It's what the BBC has always been for

@JustanothaGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Yes anything that doesn't agree with you has left wing bias.

@MohammedAli-hl4mr

2 жыл бұрын

@@notundermywatch3163 the bbc is centrist your just far right so you view anything that doesn't align with racist bs as leftist

@nikhilsilva5244

2 жыл бұрын

@@MohammedAli-hl4mr yeah so centrist that they insert black people into every single historical documentary of Britain or Europe they make

Rhodesia was a beautiful wonderful country, shame it was destroyed!

@roninronin6405

3 жыл бұрын

Then it may be have been beautiful for some but Misérables for others, but now its ruined for all....

@annavermmaak2649

3 жыл бұрын

Give a country to blacks and in 20 years there will be nearly nothing left.but the world turn a blind eye so it happen in South Africa also.hope the world leaders learn their lesson.

@roninronin6405

3 жыл бұрын

comparison is skewed .... hmm...

@panashe9724

3 жыл бұрын

you do realize it was great but the majority population was oppressed. Many white settlers had a good life but that wasn't the case for native citizens. Ian Smith may have been a great leader but failure to end this systematic oppression played a part in Zimbabwe's problems today.

@panashe9724

3 жыл бұрын

@@roninronin6405 I know you mean well but this comes off as a little bit racists

The solution was to set majority rule to kick in once the population was ready. Let's say 50% literacy and 10% college educated. In the mean time, set milestones. Were there some racists? Yes. But most Rhodesians were not racist and just wanted competent persons running the show.

@munhumutema8970

5 жыл бұрын

Do you notice that these black people being interviewed are mostly speaking fluent English? Now think of this, English is not their mother tongue, its not spoken in their homes, but these black Africans can fluently converse in that language. Is that what you call illiteracy? these guys were much more eloquent and reasonable than most white racists who were espousing the idea that blacks where dumb or illiterate.

@veaccara

5 жыл бұрын

@Wonder Boy fuck you, you don't have any business on Earth

@poopsiepop4179

5 жыл бұрын

Literacy assumes you can read and write. Anybody can speak fluent english and still be illiterate unless they prove to write competently.

@monkofdarktimes

4 жыл бұрын

Look if people can run the land it will thrive the thing was the black population was not ready if given the time it could have been at least the mantel is not lost as Nambia and Botswana has taken it up

@adrianrodd4299

4 жыл бұрын

@@veaccara how stupid could you be 🤦‍♂️

Love to know what happened to these farmers and business owners that were interviewed.

@tomfrazier1103

4 жыл бұрын

I'm eating dinner, I'd just as soon not.

@zephyrna6249

4 жыл бұрын

In all honestly they were most likely killed, or if they were lucky they managed to leave. After Majority Rule, attacks on Boer families became even more common place. And the same thing is happening currently in South Africa.

@parchment543

4 жыл бұрын

Zephyr N/A well yes it is currently happening in sa but...the anc is kind of pissing of the global business community...so just like when the global community picked on apartheid government we might see this happening to anc government before it's too late. Ya know, we wouldn't want those diamond mines to fall into the wrong hands that won't make everybody else money!

@wecx2375

3 жыл бұрын

Killed.

@marcelomateos3451

2 жыл бұрын

Many left the country, others were killed.

would love to see someone return to all these farms and houses and see what they are like today.

@talentmatarirano1787

4 жыл бұрын

No room in Zimbabwe am second Mugabe shit no white in zim

@prepperjonpnw6482

4 жыл бұрын

They don’t exist. The country is now a shite hole like the rest of the continent. Under white rule they had plenty of food and work plus education and medical. Now they have corruption famine and genocide all on a massive scale.

@PaulKidero

4 жыл бұрын

@@prepperjonpnw6482 you lot are incredibly thick, it is truly marvelous to see. All you can bark up is this good old days nonsense, when there were very clear systemic biases that existed for 'Rhodesia' to exist. It wasn't great for everyone!

@redswift31

4 жыл бұрын

@@PaulKidero It was still a hell of a lot better than it is now.

@MartinA-vp5bt

3 жыл бұрын

They all trashed and the farms that were not stolen by the ruling party are shit holes.

I'm amazed to hear these very English accents. Just seven years later I started living in Harare and all the white Rhodesians, born there admittedly, had very strong Southern African accents. This is why Zimbabweans are unpopular immigrants with the locals. Because they were well educated they always snapped up the jobs. South Africans treated them appallingly. Beautiful, beautiful country is Zimbabwe, and lovely, still well educated people with wonderful wildlife and national parks offering a real authentic experience.

@bloosn

2 жыл бұрын

The South African accent, and the Rhodesian accent are similar, but not at all the same...

@Morelife22

Жыл бұрын

@@bloosn no one said they are the same

Smith was a hard worker who wanted to see Rhodesia prosper as it did under sanctions and war with Black's. Rhodesia was the bread basket of the. World.

@shepherdmwanawashe1521

4 жыл бұрын

Honestly Chiremba Remember smith got assistance from Scotland and Sweden despite sanctions. And also the sanctions were allowing Smith to import and export with Europe, Africa, USA and Asia. The current sanctions in Zimbabwe don’t allow them to export to Europe, USA etc

@greenpeace7380

4 жыл бұрын

@@shepherdmwanawashe1521 the sanctions were on paper. I remember my dad used to get furious about the exports from his company to Asia.

Turns out black rule was very efficient. Efficient at failing.

@areudumbstoopidordumbhuh8998

3 жыл бұрын

As always....

@BryanHobbsMcCalister

3 жыл бұрын

Pillage a land and its people. Destroy a native culture and force yours on them. Then after being forced out and leaving the country and people destitute; then mock them. Typical Brits.

@Sinky-06

3 жыл бұрын

@@BryanHobbsMcCalister rule Britannia

@rainbosprinkles6548

3 жыл бұрын

@@BryanHobbsMcCalister you obviously do not know actual African Colonial history. Did the Ndabele not conquer, slaughter, and force their culture on others? The Shona people then committed genocide when they came to power.

@BryanHobbsMcCalister

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sinky-06 Pax Americana

Since Mugabe took over in Zimbabwe and the ANC in South Africa, what actually has improved for the black population?

@nihilistcentraluk442

4 жыл бұрын

Nothing.But that is democracy .If people wanted white minority rule they could vote to keep it.They didn't .It is the will of the people

@leocozijn2326

4 жыл бұрын

@@nihilistcentraluk442 The will of the people? It's kleptomaniacs seeing opportunities.

@NandiIMbele

3 жыл бұрын

Not being under white rule!!!!! People who aren't even from the country duh...

@zik7724

3 жыл бұрын

@@NandiIMbele We'll conquer whole Africa again

@trisgilmour

3 жыл бұрын

I would love to know

These black peoples were living in paradise. But they just didn’t know it. After independence, these people are now asylum seekers.

Ian Smith, Second World War hero and last Great Prime Minister of Rhodesia. RIP

@gabrielseaborn257

4 жыл бұрын

Wonder Boy I wonder how sad it is to be you. Truly, to be in your mental state where you resort to playground insults at every corner.

@gabrielseaborn257

4 жыл бұрын

Wonder Boy What a quick response! Truly I am deeply affected by your comments. I’m impressed you wrote all that with only one typo.

@gabrielseaborn257

4 жыл бұрын

Wonder Boy You didn’t have to, but thank you regardless

@danroley7850

4 жыл бұрын

@Wonder Boy get off this comment string. You are a Commie fk!

@ColonizerChan

4 жыл бұрын

Wonder Boy Nobody is gonna insult you directly, ah who am i kidding here. This is the internet. Just try to ignore banter when you can mate. Look, whoever ‘owns’ land before doesn’t matter. Whoever is there changed hands a lot. Like the Jews used to have Israel, but were pushed out for over a thousand years and only got it back after they were killed in the millions as a target for the last time in Europe (this has been going on for centuries, like Poland was one of the few places okay with Jews back in the day). Even where I live now, Virginia was rural territory, then the Cold War brought a bunch of yanks I want sent across the river to a place they’re better off. Years before that it was British and before that it was native. Land cares not for who had it first, just who will spill blood to keep it. *we are all guilty of that and nobody’s hands are clean* If you ask me though, Rhodesia could have been something good and possibly helped Africa in the long run. Proper farming and agriculture of European tech. Importing various Rices from Asia and technology to improve society... you could have had black natives get along with whites and deal with threats of mosquitoes, disease, and then develop other countries in need of it. But people ‘wanted their land’ so badly, they threw it away for what it is today and the man who fucked it up, mugabe, even wanted these people back to rebuild....but they lost it and have to start all over again

The man who predicted "5 years max " before UDI collapsed got it right.

@johnnotrealname8168

Жыл бұрын

It was not a prediction as much as a hope.

Rhodesia was once known as the “Breadbasket of Africa”. Now they can’t even feed themselves. What changed?

@Barefoot-Bob

3 жыл бұрын

communist rule by ignorant government

@jostpolc3858

2 жыл бұрын

Ask Mugabe and Co.

@ShingiSamudzi

2 жыл бұрын

Being blacklisted by American banks. Seriously, try making a bank to bank wire transfer to Zimbabwe. Very few American banks will let you, and you have to use wire services like Western Union which have low minimums (anywhere from $2k to $5k) and crazy high fees. Cut off access to foreign investment, you kill development. The US willingly does business with governments just as vile if not moreso as Mugabe (Taliban, Saudi Arabia, Emirates, slew of South American dictators, etc). So acting like the last 30 years are an indictment of leadership is incredibly dishonest and ignores the clear efforts of the US and UK to ensure that the country is starved of capital.

@integrityrentalproperties9173

2 жыл бұрын

@@ShingiSamudzi - Zimbabwe is a shit hole because of US banks? Zimbabwe is a shit hole because the US doesn’t trade and invest in Zimbabwe? Funny, when the country was Rhodesia, IT THRIVED!!! Even when the US & UK embargoed Rhodesia (tried to destroy it) the people of Rhodesia were resolute! You can’t keep good people down! Evil people were trying to destroy Rhodesia. The only destructive forces against Zimbabwe came from within. Communism is equally shared poverty. You want Zimbabwe to thrive? Bring back the Rhodesians!!!

@jackgannnon5000

2 жыл бұрын

80 percent of the white people left

Thames Tv, Thank you for making available these important historical testimonies and recordings.

Rhodesia was a beautiful, clean & prosperous country.

@yeshuasage3724

2 жыл бұрын

Also a racist colonist country which had no right to be established in the first place

@yeshuasage3724

2 жыл бұрын

@@glocksmith226 you’re a bit naïve to say the least The fact that they named their country after rhodes itself was pushing it You name lands by the names the natives gave them or certain features it has, not after some foreign dickhead Cuz the land rhodesia occupied was not an empty land like the austrailian out back was, it was an inhabited land. So all in all, rhodesia shouldn’t have been established and it’s for the greater good it fell

@PompeyBoy66

2 жыл бұрын

Not if you were young gifted and black and couldn't get a job.

@mwanikimwaniki6801

2 жыл бұрын

@@PompeyBoy66 Welp. At least there is some sense in this comment section.

@maryturnipe9297

2 жыл бұрын

It is also a BLACK country, NOT a white country. It should be BLACK majority rule.

South Africa is now the new Rhodesia

@shaunpatrick8345

4 жыл бұрын

@Ewarton Charlton the Europeans were there before the Bantu. The Bantu are the colonisers, and the supremacists. While the whites were able to hold them at bay the country flourished, the black population grew, and people from across Africa migrated there. Now it's just a shit-hole.

@shibuya3185

4 жыл бұрын

@Ewarton Charlton : There certainly are racist laws against whites in South Africa...who are less than 10% of the population. The Employment Equity Act and the Black Empowerment Act both discriminate against whites and non-black people. That is exactly why many whites are leaving...and of course the rampant crime and corruption in the country since blacks came to power.

@shibuya3185

4 жыл бұрын

@Ewarton Charlton : "laws protecting indigenous people from usury and abuse as being "against" them."....Er, how uneducated you are. The laws don't protect anyone from abuse they merely deny whites equal rights when it comes to employment.

@shibuya3185

4 жыл бұрын

@Ewarton Charlton : "Not if you banned from walking on them".....Nobody was ever banned from walking on a street in South Africa. Why are you such a racist liar? The only people who fear to walk on South African streets now are blacks from other African countries, as dozens have been murdered by South African blacks in Xenophobic murders.

@playboicartiismydad4842

4 жыл бұрын

@@shibuya3185 Jesus the dishonesty. Yes people were banned from walking on many many many streets due to their skin colour and had a strict curfew. And the reason BBBEE exists is due to the massive racial inequality in SA. The fact white unemployment is about 7% while black unemployment is around 40%. South Africa was hell for non-whites before 1994 the country was a warzone in the 80s and early 90s. Now white people just have to actually start sharing the pie.

What a tragedy. Ian Smith a true hero.

@VB-dp1vs

4 жыл бұрын

@Wonder Boy better than Mugabe

@hre2044

4 жыл бұрын

@Wonder Boy He was born in Zimbabwe, he was just as Zimbabwean as every black in the country, I mean that's the SAME argument made to foreigners in America. Zimbabwe isn't for blacks, it's for everybody of every race and ethnicity.

@hre2044

4 жыл бұрын

@Wonder Boy We was born there he was just as "Zimbabwean" as everyone else there. Zimbabwe has always been a country for everyone, no one single person can claim it. Was EVERYONE who was white land occupiers? black nationalists are idiots who don't realize their world was made from white hands and from white minds. White Rhodesians born in Rhodesia back then are Zimbabwean citizens today, just as Smith was.

@jjbv2147

4 жыл бұрын

The Greatest of our Race.

@jjbv2147

4 жыл бұрын

Wonder Boy ohhh your just a bantu talking, right? No point even furthering a conversation, I’m dealing with a talking vegetable.

Looking back from 2019 , its a total collapse, as predicted. Typical African run country, absolute poverty.

@judieg.7945

4 жыл бұрын

The whites develop African countries and the blacks say they should rule because they are the majority. They don't seem to remember who built their world, and the whites rightly think they should have some say in what goes on in the countries they developed. Only marxism would give majority rule.

@Colmcille_

3 жыл бұрын

@Timothy Somerville Where is that ever represented? Where has communism and democracy flourished? I dislike many aspects of Capitalism pretty much to the same amount as Communism. But to say democracy is more of communist ideology is incredibly ignorant. Democracy first started (as we know it as the concept and what we base it off of, not counting tribal councils or group agreement) with upper-class Athenian men. So it never really was originally a 'for the people' system. Now sure, communism and marxism can work with democracy in theory and is ideal for it, however, with these economic systems it requires a strong state to enforce these systems and regulate them. Democracies seriously limit how effective a government can be. At least on the national level. Democracy should not be the default 'good' government, but any government that respects people's rights and maintains order. There have been good dictators and bad elected presidents/prime ministers. In reality democracy is as idealist as any other ideology. In practice most of the world's democracies either function as a 'watched' oligarchy, or as a masked dictatorship.

@Colmcille_

3 жыл бұрын

@Timothy Somerville I can't tell if you are pretending to be dumb or you don't know how to scroll up. You stated: "True democracy and representation is more of a Communist/Marxist ideology." I was stating why that is a completely ridiculous statement.

@Colmcille_

3 жыл бұрын

​@Timothy Somerville Fantastic reasoning and disputing of my points, you are very clever.

Nice initiative on this upload. Greetings from Denmark

'I didn't think they would attack me as I do so much for them' - delusional in his assessment as to his actions or does it say more about the blacks he interacted with. The statement is heard in many places and at different points of time.

This documentary is false. Ian Smith never said he wanted to strictly keep blacks out of Rhodesian government. He simply wanted blacks to be educated on how to run government and economy. Most African blacks couldn’t read or write, thusly they couldn’t reasonably vote and run a government. This was proven after the country became Zimbabwe.

@chiyenyumba7135

Жыл бұрын

Well how comes only whites "knew it all" why did they segregate in the first place... Itwas too little too late.... He ruined it for everyone both Europeans and Africans

@superguyx5468

Ай бұрын

The natives were so stupid, they thought printing money is how you get everyone rich 😭😭

@superguyx5468

Ай бұрын

Ian Smith only wanted tax paying citizens to vote, not everyone. He was ahead of his time

black majority rule in zimbabwe… nearly 40 years on... well... that went well.. country has progressed brilliantly... economically flourishing... not just the jewel and breadbasket of Africa...but the crowning glory.... black controlled farms producing more than enough to feed half of Africa.... basic infrastructures such as electricity and water all operating smoothly and free to all citizens..... no unemployment.... health and education unrivalled in the third world... finest police force and military in the southern hemisphere.... zero corruption.... political freedom and impartiality is a given.... it's true... isn't it... smith was wrong when he said black majority rule would be a failure.... wasn't he??????

@Mr.Simbar

4 жыл бұрын

CLEARLY YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN ZIMBABWE NOW

@nkosisky7334

4 жыл бұрын

@@Mr.Simbar its a mess!!

@howardm-h2936

4 жыл бұрын

@@nkosisky7334 i have family and friends still living there... are you trying to tell me it is all working, all in good order, how's the currency doing? when i left in march 1981, the official bank exchange rate was Z$1.00 = USD 2.00... schooling was still excellent, healthcare, top quality, and i am talking about Mpilo Hospital in Bulawayo, not some private hospital.... food was plentiful and AFFORDABLE... elections were a total farce in 1980 and still are.... but i am sure you will put me right

@howardm-h2936

4 жыл бұрын

apologies @nkosi sky... i clicked on the wrong reply .... my comment above was directed @ steven Mubayiwa

@trevormann8221

4 жыл бұрын

howard m-h , well said

The woman in uniform at the start of this documentary was a member of the BSAP, Rhodesia’s police force. The British South Africa Police was the oldest unit in the Rhodesian security forces. It was formed in 1889 on the eve of the founding of Rhodesia and was part of the Pioneer Column that established Rhodesia’s capital in 1890. The BSAP had a paramilitary role and thus members of the force fought against ZANLA and ZIPRA during the Rhodesian Bush War. One of the members of the unit killed in action was 23-year-old Spencer Thomas Morgan Thomas, who was shot in an encounter with the enemy on 23 August 1967. He was a great-grandson of the missionary, Thomas Morgan Thomas, who had begun preaching to the Matabele in 1859.

@captainroberts6318

Жыл бұрын

All of them should have faced the wall

@angusbull9685

4 ай бұрын

Stunning woman!

I suddenly had this thought... Just like colonialism was often (but not always) a case of the developed countries pretending to know what the undeveloped countries need best, so, in the same way, the suppression of Rhodesia by the international community was the case of the "world leaders" pretending to "know better" than the locals what they needed best. In the same way, modern West's promotion of pseudo-"progressive" values in the Third World (abortion, feminism, homosexuality) reflects this belief that they "know better" about the direction the "brutes" are supposed to develop. Rhodesia should have been treated with respect back then. Modern Africa should be treated with respect nowadays. There is no "progress" besides the one the societies chose for themselves without external pressure.

@shriekingbushpigshrieking

5 жыл бұрын

Your thought is rubbish. What the leftist media likes to ommit from their reporting is the fact that these 3rd world countries desire development. The majority of people, especially women are not really happy to be living, starving and dying in squalor. There is nothing noble about a woman dying in the dirt giving birth to babies that have a high chance of dying.

@SymphonyBrahms

5 жыл бұрын

Right wing crap spewed from your mouth to oppress minorities. Disgusting creep.

@monkofdarktimes

4 жыл бұрын

@@SymphonyBrahms history has called and it happens very often and to today it happens

@Tracymmo

2 жыл бұрын

So the African women who want abortion and feminism don't exist? I know women from a number of countries who'd be surprised to learn that. Gay Africans don't matter because they are in the minority, apparently? It wasn't long ago that gay men were arrested for just being in bars wth other gay men in the West, and they still get physically attacked.

@jurisprudens

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tracymmo What someone "wants" does not matter. Values are a matter of social norms. The minority in any society is just that - a minority. It has to comply with what the majority dictates. And, no, no outsiders has right to intervene into another society's business.

Welcome to what will soon happen in the EU/UK.

@ColonizerChan

4 жыл бұрын

Rude Boy 77 The British hold more power than you think.

@ColonizerChan

4 жыл бұрын

Rude Boy 77 Making colonies, maybe for Europe, but China is just getting started with their sphere of influence

@GlobstersMessenger

4 жыл бұрын

I feel as if I probably share some sympathies with you but you do realise what you're saying is asinine right? Rhodesia had close to 90% black majority population AND had two powerful soviet/communist states directly funding terrorist movements, If you think this is comparable to literally anything happening in the EU right now, or shares any fundamental similarities then you're bending over backwards to find the link. The issue of immigration into the EU and demographics, and the crumbling of Rhodesia/Zimbabwe might be looked at in dismissive and callous ways by neoliberal or socialist thinkers but the two situations have different origins, causes and concequences. One similarity might be the push towards the left, but the left understood back then and the left seen in Europe now are not really comparable.

@notroll1279

4 жыл бұрын

Do you mean EU and the UK or EU minus the UK?

@muchada15

3 жыл бұрын

doubt it

How I wished Bishop Abel Muzorewa became a president back then. Mugabe had vengeance to unleash and it destroyed the country. Smith was level headed though and very intelligent

@stephenchappell7512

Жыл бұрын

Indeed It's a pity that he wasn't given more time Mugabe just wanted power for himself

Thanks for the upload! Beautiful Rhodesia

@mrman9977

5 жыл бұрын

@Wonder Boy the netherland did not have anything to do with Rhodesia. You are thinking about Afrikaners in South africa

@mrman9977

5 жыл бұрын

@Wonder Boy South Africa was however Rhodesias larges ally

@TheDiasporaMedia

4 жыл бұрын

@Wonder Boy hey man what happened to you!? I used to see you a lot on that senile old man's videos comments "Loving life" hope you doing well brother

@TheDiasporaMedia

4 жыл бұрын

@Wonder Boy Hahahaha! Good Lad. I just stopped going to that YT page because I was trying to have nice nuanced conversations with them and non of them even want to cede a inch of intellectual honesty that Africans do have a point. They are all just a bunch of right wing racist South Africans that want to cry about everything and never take responsibility. So I don't bother anymore.... Last time I was there I remember one of them saying they've banned you from the channel.

@TheDiasporaMedia

4 жыл бұрын

@Wonder Boy nah bruv, ive meet tons of people on other YT channels that are reasonable and ive had great conversations about Africa and even convinced some to change their thinking. Its just that dumb old racist mans channel thats like that. They all gather on that channel and use it as their community hub because they're bitter white racists and they use the channel to bitch and be bitter. They actually told me I should not comment on "THEIR" YT channel and go to my bantu channels.

While ancient Rhodesia was a major exporter of agricultural products, 80% of the food needed today is imported. The brutal eviction of white farmers - Appaling crimes even on white Children- and their staff by the arsonist gangs activated by the Mugabe regime led to the displacement and misery of tens of thousands of agricultural workers

So sad that South Africa and the USA threw Rhodesia to wolves and now its their turn.

@januszchol2267

2 жыл бұрын

So true .

I was recently in a rehab center. One of the nurses was from Zimbabwe and said they all wish Ian Smith was back. She hated Mugabe.

@frankie7529

4 жыл бұрын

Black or white?

@bobapbob5812

4 жыл бұрын

@@frankie7529 she was black and about 30. I think all the whites were forced to leave. Many of the aides and nurses were from Africa. They were all very devout and helped me get through a difficult time. I am white.

@frankie7529

4 жыл бұрын

@@bobapbob5812 thank you.

@alphabogeyman7462

4 жыл бұрын

@@bobapbob5812 you're obviously a nice white guy with many black friends or colleagues, but Ian Smith hated black people.

@toomanysecrets7121

4 жыл бұрын

Alpha Bogeyman he hated Marxism! You don’t know what your talking about

Thanks for posting!

Honestly been researching about Rhodesia. The conclusion I've come up with is that Rhodesia Europeans were correct in keeping the wealth voting system since the vast majority of residents didn't have allegiance to the state or the ideals of uniting together for the greater good of the nation and the progress for a better future. Ian Smith could have implemented a federal job guarantee run by local councils to improve the infrastructure and educational needs of the populace (check out modern monetary theory). I believe this would have improved relations with the native Zimbabweans and encourage economically integration of the whole nation. Indirectly discourage the enlisting of guruela fighters by offering a meaningful job to anyone who seeks work. Just my thoughts, please leave any comments for further intellectual discussion. ( I'm a native black African )

@kasikwagoma6740

5 ай бұрын

@MRABDAHMED1, you are a liar you are not a true native black Africa because you empathise with the white invaders. Your idea that just giving blacks some stupid jobs would placate black Zimbabweans shows you are not one of us. What blacks wanted was their entire country back, all their lands that were stolen.

@BG-uf8kh

4 ай бұрын

Your a product of slavery. We would never accept white majority rule in our nation. You are not an African.

We used to go down for the weekend as a break from Zambia. It was lovely and worked for everyone- now it works for no one apart from the ruling elite. The locals used to laugh when they found we were living in Zambia. The UK Government were totally irresponsible in just wanting to get rid of it.

@pooplord6688

2 жыл бұрын

Well you can say that what happened ended up being terrible, but it quite obviously did not work for everyone. If Smith's government were more willing to make concessions, maybe the country wouldn't have fallen to communists.

@jimmeer

2 жыл бұрын

@@pooplord6688 Disagree. Watch South Africa.

@pooplord6688

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimmeer I think South Africa is another example of what I'm describing. The people were frustrated for so long and the only people promising them anything at all were communists. By the time the government changed its tune and recognized it could not go on forever, it had lost any chance it had of controlling the process of reform. The lesson of history is that it's often better to get behind reform rather than to see reform overtake you.

@chiyenyumba7135

Жыл бұрын

@@pooplord6688 well said

The keep is quite similar to new villages we had during the Malaya Emergency, where my parents were brought up. I think the lesson we should draw from either Malaysia or Rhodesia are we should be fair to all and judge on merit instead of skin color.

@azhariarif

Жыл бұрын

The Dutch don't belong in Africa, just like the Chinese don't belong in Southeast Asia. It's fair that the Africans don't want to be rule by white foreigners.

Freedom on a empty stomach is nothing.

@faraitogie5924

4 жыл бұрын

THATS N0NS3NS3

@randomperson8695

4 жыл бұрын

@Farai Togie I agree with you, there is no nation on this planet that became free and prosperous practicing any form of Marxism. Zimbabweans got empty stomachs, unemployment and a dictator who became enormously wealthy as his people suffered. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5297435/Grace-Mugabes-supercars-crashed-taken-Zimbabwe.html

@odialscarrers

3 жыл бұрын

@@randomperson8695 say that to the russian that went from a feudal sociecity to be the 1st ones to send humankind to space.

@muchada15

3 жыл бұрын

did you hear what the black man said. a grown man being given a curfew. 7pm. a grown man being told where he can take a dump. grown man who can not attend a meeting. can not participate in politics has no say in the direction of his future. and you say food is better than freedom. its bcz of freedom you can escape to britian to south africa if things are bad in rhodesia. with out freedom you are a sitting duck.

@vahif.ahiulmamedov809

3 жыл бұрын

@@odialscarrers are you serious? Gagarin flew into the space in 1961, but the first factory for production of toilet paper opened in the USSR in 1969(!!!) In 8 years (!!!!). And the equipment for this factory was bought in Great Britain 🤣🤣🤣.

And look at Zimbabwe now! Progress, majority rule, democracy... Enjoy!

@vahif.ahiulmamedov809

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣 "you forgot to add prosperity"👍🏻

@kazer353

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you stay in Europe Africa for Africans

@bigger_mibber6029

9 ай бұрын

@@kazer353 Yeah and Europ for europeans, yet we see you all over western Europ

50 years gone--the same clueless BBC journalists.

wish there was a follow up where they asked these people the same questions, what they think of this land of bliss with majority rule

@emilegriffith1473

5 жыл бұрын

only ppl who benefitted are the generals and officers of mugabe who were given lands and high paid jobs where they became corrupt, etc. a very small black middle class emerged. whits stayed rich, until 2000. the remaining whites almost are all wealthy still. everyon else is impoverished

@josoece3483

4 жыл бұрын

@Wonder Boy great, so you all please stay in Africa dont come to horrible Europe

@josoece3483

4 жыл бұрын

@Juden Arier Nah, I don't want kill anyone just hate fuckin' hypocrites

I'd ❤️ to see the same access in nowadays Zimbabwe 🇿🇼 with such living standards! TOGETHER PEOPLE NOT RACIAL,POLITICAL AND BOURGEOIS BOLLOX! SAVE OUR PLANET EARTH ♥️ LIGHT AND LIFE

15:27 "Are you optimistic about the future?" "I certainly am......"

@lucasgriemsnn9994

3 жыл бұрын

ha!

I strongly believe very soon Zimbabwe will start rising again. What we have been through has created a breed of extraordinary people. If only they would get a chance

@Milk_Bone

2 жыл бұрын

We make our own chances.

@wilts8965

2 жыл бұрын

@@Milk_Bone True

@davidlopez6703

2 жыл бұрын

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@mwanikimwaniki6801

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidlopez6703 Laugh in English Lopez

@Woovisu

2 жыл бұрын

@@mwanikimwaniki6801 "mwaniki" 😂

People in zimbabwe needs to come together white or black they should all come together

@roberttgwena9047

4 жыл бұрын

@Be Frank fuck.off you twat

@roberttgwena9047

4 жыл бұрын

@Be Frank lol

@roberttgwena9047

4 жыл бұрын

@Be Frank fam plz lawet

@judymagondo1229

3 жыл бұрын

@Be Frank We don't need respirators here.

@judymagondo1229

3 жыл бұрын

@Be Frank Look at our stats and compare with yours.

So what does everyone think is happening today in Zimbabwe???? 88% unemployment and 100% inflation! It's on it's knees now.

Fact is everybody's life was better then

@tinopopsyhove6747

5 жыл бұрын

Fuck you!

@raymond7938

5 жыл бұрын

Fact is not everybody's life was better back then black Rhodesians where marginalised and I am a Scottish anglo saxon man I was there in Rhodesia and Apartheid South Africa I was appalled at the treatment they received from their white counterparts so I went back to Britain.

@mrmkhosana6876

5 жыл бұрын

Speak for yourself mate

@cm2973

5 жыл бұрын

Lol you're dead on man. There was plenty to eat and you had order. These three stooges that have commented read "better," as "perfect."

@cm2973

5 жыл бұрын

@@tinopopsyhove6747 any time someone says that it means they dont have an argument. Good to know that you know when you're beat.

I must write that this is a brilliant report. It does not seek to diminish any of the real problems facing the country such as segregation and inequality but does not unnecessarily condemn it (It was not apartheid.). I wonder what would have happened had Alexander Frederick Douglas-Home, Baron Home of the Hirsel had remained Prime-Minister and a settlement had been reached for a slow but definite transition accepting Rhodesian proposals of standards equally applied and reasonable while ensuring that barriers were lifted. Maybe I am in a fantasy land but I do think James Harold Wilson, Baron Wilson of Rievaulx's stance caused a lot of the problems.

Long live you brave people

As a history enthusiast with an apolitical fascination with Rhodesia (and by extension the Bush War) I find the biased, selective tone permeating this otherwise insightful contempary documentary rather distasteful and unprofessional. Sadly, such dubious efforts appear to be pretty standard policy for seemingly most British-produced reports/documentaries/coverage made during Rhodesia's twilight years (at least judging by those now available on KZread/online) of which almost uniformly exude a curious 'amiable animosity' towards white Rhodesian interviewees. ^An early, mid-seventies precursor to "Fake News" (tm) perhaps?!

@Cos_Why_Not

5 жыл бұрын

makara80 I share basically the same view on the issue. It annoys me how people politicize Rhodesian history so much, be it from white or black identitarians.

@patrickgordon9893

5 жыл бұрын

@@Cos_Why_Not I agree, a labour government hung out Rhodesian to die.. everybody forgets about the political influence. its easy to play the race card. That's why China is left to mine all of Black Africa's minerals with no return to the Black population, a good socialist/ communistic investment.

@glendodds3824

5 жыл бұрын

For people who love history, Rhodesia is a fascinating and frustrating subject. Sadly, over the years the country’s remarkable story has been distorted by misleading and dishonest commentary from people on both sides. However, although Peter Taylor (the British journalist in the above documentary) was not a fan of white Rhodesian society, he was fairer than some of his colleagues.

@birb9422

3 жыл бұрын

@Ewarton Charlton there were no fucking slaves, are you delusional?

I kept thinking of the phrase "don't bite the hand that feeds you" during this. Did anyone else do the same?

@EubulusKane3259

3 жыл бұрын

Nope

@paulanderson6834

Жыл бұрын

@Ben Doesn't it strike you as an odd coincidence how quickly both of these countries became hell on earth as soon as the evil colonialists ceded power? Also, most countries consisted of 90% illiterate, poor and violent populations throughout History, the only difference here was the international pressure by "well meaning" global powers who felt they could pillage these countries more easily if the 90% took over. Am I being unfair?

@paulanderson6834

Жыл бұрын

@Ben You're clearly well informed on the subject, I jumped to some wrong conclusions about what your position is. The only problem I see with the implementation of majority rule in the region is the fact that it was almost imposed from outside (with help from inside) by people who didn't have the interest of either the majority or the minority in mind. Have a good evening!

Pretty hilarious how much of the Smith interview was about "negotiations" at Victoria Falls - so obvious he just wanted to end the documentary there with the dramatic shot of the water. The place of the negotiations wasn't the sticking point and everyone knew that, including Smith - he was just too polite to say. In the end the Internal Settlement was signed at Salisbury. The final settlement, the Lancaster House agreement, took place in London.

Zimbabwe was good under Smith

Now everything is returning to its natural African state.

I wonder if Thames TV would be allowed into Zimbabwe today let alone the freedom to interview anyone they want to? - oh, wait - Thames TV doesn't exist anymore.... rough justice? one has to ask...

Long live Rhodesia , Rhodies Never Die

@Witnessmoo

3 жыл бұрын

But it did

@Eli-yr7ou

3 жыл бұрын

@@Witnessmoo Rhodesia was more alive then Zimbabwe is now lol

@NandiIMbele

3 жыл бұрын

Although ZIMBABWE is not functioning well rn I'm pretty sure the Zimbaweans who were originally in that land destroyed it to stop white rule and don't even say it was better off...it might have been but would you have wanted to stay under someone elses rule in your own country...I think not

@maxb9315

3 жыл бұрын

Liberate occupied Rhodesia!

@Tracymmo

2 жыл бұрын

@@maxb9315 Yeah! And occupied England! Get those English out of there

My dad worked out in Rhodesia from 1976 to 1980...the British government sold the settlers out. I feel ashamed to the plight of the white farmers in South Africa that Europe has refused to help....yet Europe fall head over heels to help the illegals and economic migrants who have no loyalties towards our heritage. Would be nice to ask all the same people all the same questions (if they are still living) I bet their views would have changed.

MAKE ZIMBABWE RHODESIA AGAIN

@liltree8382

4 жыл бұрын

Isaac Bruce Dumbass it’s gone never coming back

@maxheadroom224

3 ай бұрын

​@@ratidzotakawira6191chinese colony now

@throwaway6478

2 ай бұрын

@@ratidzotakawira6191 It's literally a Chinese colony right now. 🤣

Great Man

God bless Ian Smith. Rhodesians never die!

@wesley939

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah they do

@adamgardiner5869

Жыл бұрын

Ok boomer

It's so funny that the reporter allows the farm owner to ask one of his employees what he thinks of the fence surrounding where the black farm workers live (around 5:35). What do you think that worker would say? He can't be frank. Of course, he was noncommittal, finally giving a monosyllabic answer that the owner chose to interpret as agreement.

@glendodds3824

4 жыл бұрын

The farmer must have felt embarrassed by the unenthusiastic response.

@gerberjoanne266

4 жыл бұрын

@@glendodds3824 Yes, I think you're right. It did make for an awkward moment.

Damn, Ian Smith knew it was over. Dude looks so sad.

@Tracymmo

2 жыл бұрын

Poor baby!

@devinfraserashpole4753

Жыл бұрын

Yep, sucks being proven right when you predicted a disaster.

BBC supported Mugabe.

@liltree8382

4 жыл бұрын

D. J. Good everybody that’s not a Virgin does

@johnnymclaneutah

3 жыл бұрын

@@liltree8382 amazing arguments

@bigger_mibber6029

9 ай бұрын

@@liltree8382 As if being a virgin until marriage and not having aids is .... LE BAD!

It’s a crying shame that Rhodesia fell.

@theslaviccookie5137

4 жыл бұрын

@Ewarton Charlton what a silly comparison. And Mugabe systematically killed people based on ethnicity. Sounds more like Hitler to me

@theslaviccookie5137

4 жыл бұрын

@Ewarton Charlton literally killed whites for a solid 10 years and has made the lives of black people significantly worse in the country. He killed a lot of black civillians while being a "revolutionist" as well. Don't forget that he only gained power because of a Soviet ploy to gain strongholds in Africa.

Well done teacher, today they are good

It’s amazing farms working well, kids being taught, people with money to shop of both colours and healthcare then black majority rule and it’s obvious they weren’t ready

They should do an interview with these people now 2019.

@caedmonstone

4 жыл бұрын

Take the reporter who did the initial report with to give his view on the successes of what he was promoting...

@speakertreatz

Жыл бұрын

@@caedmonstone he's still around. I don't know what you think he was promoting though. In Ireland we know him to be a fair and fearless journalist who asked very difficult questions of the two sides in the dispute to Northern Ireland and made a lot of enemies on both sides.

@caedmonstone

Жыл бұрын

@Gavin Paisley being fair and fearless does not preclude a bias, in fact as this was done as a documentary a bias is implicit and the best he could have done was include (with only minimal necessary editing done) counter interviews. And thats the point of my comment, decades later with a world view that would have changed (age does that) going back, comparing his biases then to biases now and the changes that time has wrought, what would be his current view. Would he still hold the view that white Rhodesians were deeply in the wrong, would he still hold the view that the Ian Smith government needed to fall and that the Black Zimbabwean needed to have the vote as they did, even though that was what lead to decades of Mugabe and unknown numbers dead in Mugabe and Mnangagwa's Gukurahundi? Or in short given hind sight what would he wish to tell his younger self NOW!

@speakertreatz

Жыл бұрын

@@caedmonstone Where did he express his personal views in the documentary?

@caedmonstone

Жыл бұрын

@Gavin Paisley umm where did I say he expressed personal views, i said he biased his reporting with his views. If he did not he would not be human, if you disagree go find a priest of intersectionality and ask for a lecture on implicit bias...I also noted that he fought against his biases by acknowledging that he included opposing views. Your bias of if its not what you think is right it must be universally wrong is showing, please try to control it for future interactions.

A new wrong does not make the historical wrong right.

@watchwomanwhatofthenight1426

2 жыл бұрын

This is the perfect answer ,my parents lived in Rhodesia and she swears that she could never trade this ungovernable Zimbabwe to Rhodesia.Being treated as second class in your own country is the worst kind of feeling

@oliverford5367

2 жыл бұрын

@@watchwomanwhatofthenight1426 You see videos of black servants pouring tea for white cricketers. It must have been so humiliating to have to serve people who feel superior to you and let you know it. Sure they were fed but psychologically it must have been miserable.

It took years for Europeans to build their countries,went through great depressions, savage wars,all manner of terrible things and yet they r quick to point at what Afrika is going through today,to justify their racist policies.. please allow Afrikan countries to go through their own pains of growing. The biggest reason Afrika failed was massive capital withdrawal,subtle punishments for supporting liberation movements,like in the case of Zambia, Tanzania....I can write a book not of excuses but real living facts.

And they are all so much better off now, that's freedom for you.

he was a good man

Mugabe was inevitable. Ian Smith and Co created him - to pretend otherwise is frankly laughable. Rhodesia was a ticking time bomb, just look at this video, the tension is palpable . Rhodesia was always unsustainable and the idea you could exclude the black majority is nuts.

I present to you the future past and present of the United States of America.

MAKE RHODESIA GREAT AGAIN

@marcelluswhyte2291

2 жыл бұрын

😅😃😃

Researching it's interesting how commonsense these ladies are, if you are armed you have a chance. Something UK citizens do not have.

@ChibabaDave

5 жыл бұрын

@@bearwolfable tell that to one of the thousands of victims of crime each year im sure they will find that very reassuring.... the victims of the london bridge attack for example would no doubt be thanking you for pointing this out as they got cut to pieces. The fact that women cant even have so much as a pepper spray is ridiculous and shows the contempt our betters have for us.

@ChibabaDave

5 жыл бұрын

@@bearwolfable you are very misinformed about the situation in the united states im afraid, gun ownership has increased and violence has been falling states with the most liberal laws tend to have lowest crime, millions of crimes are thought to be prevented and lives saved by gun ownership in the US but the media wont print that. You also ignore European examples like Czech republic.

@ChibabaDave

5 жыл бұрын

@@bearwolfable well what do you want to know? Look at worldwide legal gun ownershipvs gun crime rates, look at overall crime vs legal gun ownership, look at legal gun ownership vs gun homicide and vs overall homicide no correlations. Look at US DoJ figures look at FBI figures, look at the works of Gary Kleck, Katja triebel and Joyce Lee Malcolm. Look at the states in US with strictest laws vs those with more liberal laws. Look at czech republic vs UK crime rates. No corrolation what so ever with legal gun ownerhsip and increased crime but plenty evidence to suggest it at best helps reduce crime to at worst has no effect. Look at the root causes of violence, it aint guns.

@ursus911

4 жыл бұрын

@@bearwolfable

Well, the good news is that everyone in Zimbabwe is a millionaire now...

@shibuya3185

4 жыл бұрын

They are certainly all happy that they are now not treated like shit by racist whites.

This is journalism. Not the "in your face" never leave the comfort of your studio garbage we have today.

10:49 He predicted the future well.

South Africa and Rhodesia were the wealthiest and most developed countries in the region. Indeed, South Africa was the continent's superpower. Moreover, the Portuguese colonies of Angola and Mozambique also had modern cities, commercial farms and productive factories. For example, the following footage shows cultivation occurring in the Vila Pery area of Mozambique: kzread.info/dash/bejne/m3qp09yiZNbRqNI.html

@panashe9724

3 жыл бұрын

I'm 21 years and I cannot accurately speak on behalf of black Zimbabweans as I wasn't born at the time. My only knowledge of the times back then is based on books or videos like these. Firstly I agree with you, Zimbabwe was better back then. At the same time it was better for the white citizens. You can understand the frustration that led the black citizens to fight the way they did. What started as a fight for equality turned into greed by the black politicians whom I feel felt entitled to the riches of the land they fought for. This eventually led to out downfall. Having said all this, for Zimbabwe to get back to it's glory, there has to be a lot of reconciliation(the true kind) before real change can be made

@worldfromnwa2305

Жыл бұрын

So you consider it "development" for the vast majority of people in a country to be marginalized while power is monopolized by a small minority of white people? The whites had the opportunity to share power equally with the blacks while still ruling the country. they chose to keep the blacks in underdevelopment. what is happening today is not good for either blacks or whites and it is the consequence of both white and black misrule.

Rhodesians are a remarkable people. Both black and white. I was there in the 70's and was amazed how tough the whites were.

@thesoulbrother8636

4 жыл бұрын

They weren't tough enough. cheers🍺

@jaymeehoffstar2621

4 жыл бұрын

They were more than tough, just betrayed and left isolated by the same trash doing their best to wreck Europe, the west, nowadays.

@thesoulbrother8636

4 жыл бұрын

@Jaymeehoffstar: They were euro-thieve-lands, who deserved everything that happened to them. God does not like murderers and thieves. Cheers🍺

@bigger_mibber6029

9 ай бұрын

@@thesoulbrother8636 You speak of God, but where is God in your foresaken country? You stole, you murder and you can't even manage your own land and people. God and his church help you.

Targeting civilians is all they could do...even to this day in South Africa...If they can't get their way politically, they turn on hard-working civilians...On the battlefield they would lose...

@Africa1000

4 жыл бұрын

Interesting revision of history! Africans won the war in Zimbabwe and in South Africa... It's no longer guns v spears. The numbers mean that any more wars like that in Africa will mean the result will only go one way!

After transistion Rhodesia and South Africa went down the drain. I am sure there are capable black leaders but actually they did not choose such in both countries. Also may be Smith was right when he suggested it would take more time and preparation for majority rule. You need educated people for a democracy and South Africa should have listened to him. There are not many Mandelas out there and they don't live forever but there are many Mugabes ready for take over. People should be able to distinguish between them.

@alexsandrodesouzagoncalves3373

Жыл бұрын

Excelente post...

Zimbabwe is what happens when the world fucks up. Shame on all of us.

Who's here in 2020

Long lives B1 Afrikaz Original Indigenous Peoples Worldwide **

What a beautiful country it used to be!

@AlexAlex-lj5zk

4 жыл бұрын

eish

@semyaza555

4 жыл бұрын

Ewarton Charlton Lolol

@HostileLemons

4 жыл бұрын

@Ewarton Charlton stfu moron

@CanineCereal250

4 жыл бұрын

Ewarton Charlton what, you love seeing black people starve to death and poverty?

@castormicah5232

4 жыл бұрын

I was there just a few weeks ago. It is still strikingly beautiful. I heard from locals that the British did not bring beauty to Zimbabwe, they found it there.