Renault Megane E-Tech 1000 km challenge
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Nice enjoyable video. Every video I have a positive launch because of you. Thank you. Hope to drive to your country once. Your charge infra is freaking awesome. Greetings from the Netherlands
I watched Bjørn’s videos before buying our FIRST EV, a Renault Zoe. I watched Bjørn’s videos before buying our SECOND EV, a Model 3. Now I watch Bjørn’s videos… to see Bjørn eat. 😂 Bjørn is the best!
This car is far better than many other rivals … I’d rather have this instead of the ugly Model 3
Be careful Björn. If you say bad things about Julmust, you might be banned from entering Sweden... 😁😂
@mesaber86
Жыл бұрын
TrocaMust however.... Yuck!
@ptrk64
Жыл бұрын
Well, it was the bad stuff, try Zonerts Julmust. Way better. And for the win, do 70/30 mix with sockerdricka 🎅
@volvocars5189
Жыл бұрын
Not only banned, shot on sight after passing the border you mean? 😉😅
@krzysztofkn8271
4 ай бұрын
Julmust rules! ✌️ as your test
Owning this car I can confirm your car is obviously broken concerning the drive assistant, never had a single problem activating it. Also I don’t have to move the steering wheel to confirm I’m still awake - just touch it. Also never had a problem with charging, though I can confirm that charging speed could be better. I‘ve tested so many cars, including ID3 and ID4, they where really disappointing. So far we love the car. Btw. we have no problem driving it on longer road trips, surely a larger battery would help a lot to get to the destination a bit faster but comfort wise it’s pretty good.
@basedw
Жыл бұрын
I spent this weekend with the Megane. I used the autosteer on highways a lot and it was awesome. At 130kmh i was getting around 220wh/km.
@webplugin
Жыл бұрын
Same experience in our Megane E-tech, you really get used to auto steering very fast. Just remember to keep and eye on the road as it shuts down without warning when the road is too tricky
Thanks for setting off my Google Assistant by asking the car questions! 😅 This is a nice looking car, and somewhat efficient. We don’t get Renault in the US anymore, but we might see elements of this through Nissan in the US (not sure if the Ariya shares anything with this) It’s 15C in Norway, meanwhile here on the US West Coast it’s been below 0C every evening for the past week. That’s normal for a lot of places in the world, but not here, or at least not for that long. Our weather has been messed up this year (well, every year for the past 5 years) The difference between the displayed SOC on the car vs Car Scanner is probably the actual SOC including buffer (on the Car Scanner) vs the SOC not including buffer (what is showing in the car).
@pxidr
Жыл бұрын
The Ariya has the same powertrain.
When one of your chat contributions from live chat makes it into to the final video: priceless 😂
"the press cars need to have the best trim". Indeed they added the power button (FFS #1) and "the engine" in the bonnet (FFS #2)
Can’t wait for ET7 1000 km challenge on the Lillehammer- Vestby - Varberg route
23:57 in Estonia, ionity is most expensive option, like double price. Unless you have their network car. For a muggle it costs 79cents kwh, while other three networks are 30-35cents per kwh.
Thank You! The result is surprising, I expected a slightly better time...
It is funny that here in USA, Circle-K would never make me think of high-speed BEV chargers at good prices AND good food. Glad I see this as it must be coming here (the chargers) in a decade maybe at Circle K.
Your channel is awesome, your a funny guy, please keep up the good work bro.. nick from London uk
Ach Björn… I am laughing since ever about your humor😂 JulMusk is not like Dr Pepper
Thanks for doing this, I am due to sign up for this exact make and strim, I currently have a 3.0l Jag S-Type so I know I will save money, I am looking forward to getting it, delivered January. 😅🎉
Please stop saying this kind of rear door handles are specific to french cars. They appeared for the first time on a Renault (Zoe) in 2012 but you could find them on Alfa Romeo 156 since 1997 ! Call them italian door handles instead !😉
Thanks Björn for your video, always informative and fun. I am wondering about your efficiency though. I have a Mégane e-tech, and most of my driving is on the freeways in Switzerland. I use the adaptive regulator (works great) and set it at 110 km/h. My average consumption is only about 16 kWh/100 km against your 25 or so,. Slowing down by 10 km/h can make a huge difference in efficiency and need for charging...
@filippxx
Ай бұрын
I know Switzerland is crazy when it comes to speed restrictions, but in the rest of Europe 110 is unusable on the national roads: too slow for regular cars, too fast for the trucks.
As an Ioniq driver, I had a strange experiance with my wifes ZOE135, this car is not holding the adjusted cruise control speed when going downhill. So far I was sure all electric cars whould do this perfectly as my Ioniq. Do you have any experiance how this is with other EV‘s? Testing this could be part of Geilo test. Your work, introducing and testing EV‘s with that special Björn stile is #1 Thank you👍
I love julmust😊 it Sells like butter in the sun here in sweden😝
I watch your channel regularly - and I think it´s one of the best EV channels out there! Thanks for that. Concerning the 1000km challenge. On one hand it´s great to do it as fast as the car is able to do it, but this can result in some "unrealistic charging strategy". Consumers will not use in daily life. Probably it could be useful to be more "consumer focused" - meaning that the normal "consumer might not go lower than 10% - but will charge always to around 70-90%. Test procedure would be more like to drive down to 5-15% and always charge it to 75-85%. This would also signal to the OEMs the importance of charge ability over time and not peak ability for some narrow percent range.
Hi Bjorn,my name is Daniel.i"m watchig you from Romania.. please what you chose? Model 3 standard or megane e tech?. Thank you Bjorn
Hi Bjørn, do you prefer this car or the MG Marvel R?
What is the best time to keep driving VS charging.?
Nio swapstation in Varberg is up and runnig.
Björn why is the right side the wrong side?? in a parking lot along the street that is handy imo!
Guessing that over 100% SoC is to calibrate and afterwards balancing. Not like the Fiat 500e what can only balance in AC, and bricks to 50+kW instead of 85kW peak DC charging, for "protection".
Munich to Zagreb in Megane EV60 - I needed a bit over 7 hours (it's a 550 km trip).
KEMPOWER FTW!
I am not a huge fan of Julmust. But the sugarfree version is the worst. You should try the normal version for a fair test. We do also have Påskmust (Which is the same thing but with a different label) which sells around easter.
I hope they release an OTA with a slightly updated charging curve
@alfrredd
Жыл бұрын
Probably not gonna happen, the french can be very stubborn, they won't improve something they think is 'perfect'.
@florian_spdl
Жыл бұрын
@@alfrredd PSA improved the carging curve on their e-gmp platform drastically about 6 months after first deliveries of the Peugeot e-208 and Corsa-e
What is the mobile app that you are using to check charging speed and etc?
We buy Julmust every year from Ikea and strangely after a while it tastes great. Go figure!
Snow it's the winter coming
Would be nice if the "Hey Google" was muted in the video, otherwise awsome work as always Björn.
My man drives like he's going "back to the future Marty!" 😊
we decide to sale ours e-golf and buy brnat new Hunday kona ir renault megane e-tech waht do you can recomend ?
What's the car scanner and odb you use? I've bought this Megane and would be great to monitor the battery charging
@eddymaes9620
Жыл бұрын
in the beginning of the video at 55 sec he says "car scanner" (ELM OBD2) for your phone. After downloding and installing the app search for Renault en choose "megane e tech" and use Konnwei odding BT 3.0 for your OBD port. make connection with blue tooth
@EV_OBD
25 күн бұрын
@@eddymaes9620 Now it shows SOH, battery temperature, cell voltages (in All Sensors).
If the screen is black my instinct would definitely be to press brake and click start. What a ridiculous solution 🤦
Stopping the charging session when "starting the engine" is so annoying. Why??? I get that they wanted to be careful in 2012, but cmon.
Unfortunately you can’t get this with a heat pump in right-hand drive markets
Seems that VW has done great job with the MEB platform. Not so easy to beat ID.3 after all.
@Dreadpirateflappy
Жыл бұрын
except interior build quality... the ID3 is shocking in that regard.
@UbuntuAllTheWay
Жыл бұрын
@@Dreadpirateflappy The interior build quality is decent. It's only a bit plasticky.
bit disappointing for a new car and platform
If you do press the brake and power on and the charge stops. What’s the trigger to restart it? Can you have heating on whilst charging?
@christofferbakkenakre8012
Жыл бұрын
You can have heating while charging by simply pressing the A/C button.
From now on your official title is 'Deductator' :)
What an amazing charging experience. Can't even keep the car on and use the AC. (I know he showed how to keep the cabin warm, but it's ridiculous)
Try HVAC test on this. Suspect that's the issue. E-tron heater consumption...
White leather and large screen in the middle, Top of the range in the UK gets grey cloth and tiny middle screen. Whats going on with Renualt ?!?!?
When to test BYD Atto 3?
Doies anyone know where the OBD access is in this car?
Hello, I don't know if it's available in Norway but you should test the Megane with 60kWh battery and 100kW motor with 18 inch wheels. Available for pro in France for exemple, call "evolution ER". We have order one to do family road trip, after sold our E-C4.
@GunitEngage
Жыл бұрын
He is driving the 60kWh Version. That is for him tiny battery 😅
You must sign in so location tracking can be accepted for the google assistence... is my guess..
@IceAce1
Жыл бұрын
I guess you're right and wonder about the answer, if he had asked about the car's elevation instead. Maybe assistant would have replied "I don't know, the car has not signed in either."
Julmust e ju gott det =)
What? No word on the Tesla being towed at 15:16 ? :-)
Ionity are ripping UK drivers off. They are the most expensive chargers.
@bjornnyland
Жыл бұрын
Get subscription.
15 Volt isn't that a little bit high for 12 Volt battery? Recommend for charging 13.8 - 14.0 volt as far as I know.
@hadtopicausername
Жыл бұрын
14,2 volt is the perfect charging voltage for a 12 volt battery, if I remember correctly.
@Infinion
Жыл бұрын
12V is ambiguous. In the lead-acid family, charging voltages vary depending if its a flooded, gel, vrla, agm, or lead carbon chemistry. For flooded batteries 15V is necessary as a finishing charge. If your charger charges to 14.2V and never tops off at 15V, that represents an incomplete charge where you're leaving a little bit of lead sulfate to cover your plates, and sentencing it to a short life when you repeat that over and over. 13.8V is for "float charging" when the battery is not in use. You're simply compensating for the self-discharge and retaining the battery state of charge.
Even the Megane
I wonder why it is not sharing the battery and curve of the Aryia
Nice little Renault. Curious about bmw i7……😊
Hey nice, but trikky score... Mégane is realy great car at this Time. But i'm Hope a little more fast charge to Travel for a 2022 car... I'm think a last phénix 1000km challenge to 2023 leaf version some great final life score. A little Aero amelioration is possible to up score of the leaf to the actual véhicule... May be... N.b. : A think to try challenge to leaf, use 16" wheel ans 2.8bar and Travel speedy at 106km/h to maximize efficiency. To maximize chance to approch actual véhicule.
Can someone please explain to me what it means to be charging at “1 C?” Bjorn mentioned it when he talked about charging speed at 44% and the size of the battery being 60kwh. Appreciate the help!
@xavierwattrelos1085
Жыл бұрын
Hey, charging a 60 kWh battery pack at 60 kW means you are charging at 1C. Charging a 60 kWh battery pack at 120 kW means you are charging at 2C Charging a 120 kWh battery pack at 60 kW means you are charging at 0,5C This just a ratio between battery pack capacity and charging power. Hope that help.
@nohcam22
Жыл бұрын
@@xavierwattrelos1085 thank you so much yes this makes sense. Appreciate your time!
@petertraveller6421
Жыл бұрын
@@nohcam22 some Chinese EV's will charge soon 6C, current model is 3C, but they also work to get it up 12C, they try to double it every year. Then 3 minute charge is enough. 6C model will charge 480kw, and the battery is somewhere 900 volt when full.
@nohcam22
Жыл бұрын
@@petertraveller6421 this is crazy. Isn’t this bad for the battery long term?
@petertraveller6421
Жыл бұрын
@@nohcam22 they promise million mile warranty, or was it kilometer, can't remember which one. It's not a problem for the cells, because they make new type of cells which can handle high current. That's why other car brands have problem, they don't have these new cells and they will fall behind. 6C model already exist, but for sale maybe 2023 summer. 3C model early next year.
Careful with them burgers! Eating too many will eventually ketchup with you.
@bjornnyland
Жыл бұрын
Only if you're Hungary.
Time 22:30, any idea on the song's name?
Julmust is da shit!!!
Interesting the Kia Niro EV outperformed it, seems that even at the lower max charge rate that the efficiency and flatter charge curve works in Kia's favour.
@TorAsbjoern
Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if 0.7 km/h is outperforming, but I get your point. 5 minutes in a 1000 km isn't something you would notice too much hehe.
Why?! Why?! - Computer says no, that's why.
14:17 🤣😂
At 10:25, ABS? Not ABC! 🤣🤣
The 12th of November was my birthday 🎉
Fantastic review - and very funny :)
Wonder why Ionity are the cheapest there and one of the most expensive in UK. 69p before the energy crisis, but they haven't raised it yet oddly!maybe because they were taking the pi$$ before?
@bjornnyland
Жыл бұрын
Get Ionity subscription.
@austin2planks
Жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland good point! Depends on usage whether it's worthwhile though. I don't use them enough to save the subscription, just grudge paying the rates! 😄
hmm .. not really fair to say the car estimates wrong when you constantly drive over the speed limit ;-).. the Renault calculator is normally pretty spot on IF you stay under the limits :-)
@bjornnyland
8 ай бұрын
It's wrong. What if you for some reason must drive under the speed limit due to traffic?
Your reviews are great. There are few growing EV's in indian market, among them the best selling one is nexon EV. Can you do review on this one?
It's supposed to charge twice as fast as a niro but completed this more slowly?
@Likr666
Жыл бұрын
Niro has better efficiency.
@Lewis_Standing
Жыл бұрын
@@Likr666 its supposed to charge twice as fast though. Must be quite a big gap in efficiency (for a bigger car,on a non EV platform too)
All car makers should have Android google system. The best for cars. I never use inbuilt navigations because its too clunky and hard to use. Definitely a good move for Renault from their TomTom system in previous generations.
At 1:25, did you say "Spekeröd" only one time?
@Likr666
Жыл бұрын
Otherwise the video would have been too long 😁
What track is that at 19 :46?
@bjornnyland
Жыл бұрын
19:46
Consumption is a bit high vs ID3 - is it because of battery conditioning? The range test had a great consumption
@brottochstraff
Жыл бұрын
I think ID3 is smaller actually.
@JPetr94
Жыл бұрын
@@brottochstraff ID3 is 4,261 long 1,809 wide and 1,568m tall Megane is 4,200 x 1,768 x 1,505
@Scrap-press
Жыл бұрын
Also interesting this challenge was done 2 years later than ID3. ID3 nowadays has better charging curve so the gap would be even wider. I expected the Megane to do better since it got so much hype.
@brottochstraff
Жыл бұрын
@@JPetr94 Wierd i was standing next to it with me e-niro and it felt almost as big...
@TorAsbjoern
Жыл бұрын
@@Scrap-press has the ID.3 charging curve actually been improved?
Ë-c4 without energy management upadate (middle of 2021, for better consumption and recharging curve) still a beast with 10k less than other car except 100% chinese mg4 ! Please found lates version of PSA-stellantis car e208 or ds3 with 400km wltp Bjorn 😃 And also 2022 ë-c4 😃😄
@alfrredd
Жыл бұрын
well, E-C4 is 10k more expensive than MG4 with 10% tariff 😭😭😭
@oliviertivi1858
Жыл бұрын
@@alfrredd Absolutly not! Ë-c4 is comparable to mg4 64kwh not the 51kwh. More about 3 or 4 k euro. And we don't even speak about quality or technology wich is seriously risky with Chinese MG... And the new motor and battery of ë-c4 will be seriously compétitive in 2023, even if it is 100% chinese production for mg4
How can they be competitive if the car doesnt allow you to dc charge it more than twice in 24h.wtf
When will it be time for the toyota bz4x to do the 1000 km challenge? In the new year after Thailand trip? Have a nice stay in Thailand this winter :)
@alexandrutudor9497
Жыл бұрын
bleah. F Crapyota! they are anti-EV
@Lewis_Standing
Жыл бұрын
He'll need a spare wheel
The power socket is located in the worst possible place, I can't explain why they have not used the front Renault sign just like in the Zoe. Otherwise nice car 👌
@tarbat
Жыл бұрын
The power socket is on the front left for UK (RHD) cars
@Lewis_Standing
Жыл бұрын
Really useful for my drive actually 👍
@stefank9939
Жыл бұрын
For the left-hand drive version, it is actually the most inappropriate place for the loading flap! Nobody with a single garage can do anything with this vehicle, unfortunately. Impossible and unique. To my knowledge, no other electric car has the charging flap only on the front right!
@stefank9939
Жыл бұрын
how björn usually says: the left side is the right side, the right side is the wrong side. the front right side is the double wrong side!! 🤷🏼♂
@SNORKYMEDIA
Жыл бұрын
is it a worry about frontal impacts???
Julmust is the best, with sugar 😅
Epic one🤣 "I drive electric, so I can eat real meat" You are totally correct 🤣
Circle K makes the best on the road burger... period. WAY better than the MAX cr**!! Try another circle K!, they did something very wrong on that one!
Renault give promise my country Turkey end of year put up for sell but break one's word!! Its shame..
Right now, you can get this exact car or ... a Model Y LR. For the same money. No wonder Model Y has been selling like hotcakes. Bigger, better, you get more per euro paid with the Tesla.
@christianolsen9781
9 ай бұрын
That depends on market. Where I live the Iconic E-tech and the Base RWD Tesla Y cost the same. But quite different cars - Y is a huge lump to drive where the Renault feels more like a Golf GTI type of car. Feels much lighter and more nimble, but much smaller and less spacious.
that top toolbar animation on the top of the centre screen would drive me crazy. something constantly moving in your peripheral while driving. terrible design choice
@christofferbakkenakre8012
Жыл бұрын
It’s for notifications. You can remove it by clearing the notifications.
@markifi
Жыл бұрын
@@christofferbakkenakre8012 i'd probably put black tape over it instead
Ed anche oggi un bolognese si sta rivoltando nella tomba 🤣
@lorenzopoli5270
Жыл бұрын
veramente golosa poi magnata in quel sacchettaccio 😅
Renault 5 🤘
thanks for your tests and dedication Bjorn! I'm so happy to see confirmation that I made the right decision to not buy this car. A 2019-level EV from a greedy manufacturer which prioritises design over quality and performance. If it were 15.000€ cheaper, then yes, I would consider it (27.000€ and not 42.000€).
7:51 i think google thought you asked for your height and it wants to check it from your account information! :P
Hi Bjorn, Matteo Valenza in Italy has done the 1000Km with a Megane 60Kwh in less than 7.30 . Here is the link to the video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/d6eCpdqyY7vFfJs.html
@PaoloSulprizio
10 ай бұрын
11h20 recharges included. The strange part is that they consumed both around 240Wh/km despite the 130km/h of average speed of Matteo.
Spork... 8mn of lol and counting
"Maybe it's not that bad" -*nope* :)
the problem is, because of their shitty ev plattform you don't get a long range version with a bigger battery. if they had more space for a bigger battery they could even use cheaper LFP batteries for that short range version.
Julmust is good but get another brands julmust also Max is overrated specially their grand deluxe patty is terrible try Frisco mål
31:05 EV drivers get the real meat, fossil drivers need to get the vegan version to even out emissions and hybrid drivers get the vegan burger with bacon on it! 🤣
@windyfarmer.6095
Жыл бұрын
CETS charge eat talk shiiiit. But dont eat shiiiit, good man ,bbest wishes from a windy cattle farmer.
In German it’s actually called “Gaffel” - Gabel und Löffel.
@Danne89
Жыл бұрын
Gaffel in Swedish is the exact word for Fork. 😂
@oasiasoasiaso
Жыл бұрын
No, it's Göffel.
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Toooo smalllll battery !