When I started reloading in the late 70's, BD had brighter blue dots. Really stood out.

@30-06john

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I used Red Dot years ago and I seem to remember that they were sort of bright too. Hey, appreciate you watching!

@fjb4932

Жыл бұрын

B Harnden, Same with Red Dot / Green Dot. The colored flakes were brighter ( or my eyes were sharper ! ). Seems the bean counters are cutting back everywhere, right to the bone . . .

John being a 10MM fan myself, My recommendation is to use a magnum primer with Blue Dot. The original 200 Gr was traveling 1200 FPS With 639 FPE. Blue Dot is a good power, I’ve used it my Colt Super 38 Auto it performed outstanding.

@30-06john

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info! Yeah, I was just using the Hornady load data, but I know that magnum primers make a difference. I'll have to try that in the future! Thanks again!

@thescbaron

2 жыл бұрын

Why the magnum primer?

@VitoBb1978

2 жыл бұрын

Because Blue Dot is slow burning pistol powder, the 200 Gr bullet is a heavy for caliber bullet.

I have used this combination of 200 grain Hornady XTP bullets and Alliant Blue Dot ever since I got my first GLOCK Gen 3 G-20 10mm in 2008 with outstanding results. Back then it was a special order item and I had to have one of my local gun shops order me one with factory GLOCK tritium night sights. I now also have a Gen 4 G-20 and G-40 MOS to go with that first Gen 3 G-20 with 3 10mm pistols in the mix now. In a GLOCK this combination of bullet and powder proves very reliable, safe and extremely accurate. Make sure you are using a Redding carbide GRX die in addition to your standard sizing die when prepping your brass along with a good case gauge to double check. Stay within the Hornady reloading manuals safe loadings. Make sure you are doing a 0.003" - 0.004" taper crimp and you will never have a single issue.

@30-06john

Жыл бұрын

Good information! Hey, thanks for watching!

Nice work. I’ve been mainly using 1911’s but just picked up the newer SD Elite 3.8”. Love the gun for carry purposes. I mostly use Blue Dot and Power pistol in both self defense and range ammo. It meters consistently compared to fine powders, even if there is considerable flash approaching max loads. Off hand I cannot shoot that well and hoping the optic brings it in tighter. Good video.

@30-06john

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. That XD Elite looks like a nice gun, hope it works out for you! An optic will be great. Appreciate you watching!

Good day John! Looks like 10mm is due for a rise in popularity again. Mike.

@30-06john

2 жыл бұрын

Good morning! Yeah, I think you are right on, going to get popular!

I have yet to try any of the dot series of powder’s. Might have to try them sometime.

@30-06john

2 жыл бұрын

I have used Red and Green Dot in the past. They are all an older powder but work well.

Its a good powder but years ago I loaded it in some 357 mags, for a IHMSA match and after being in the sun on a hot day. It built up pressure and had to pound it out of the cylinder.

@30-06john

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that info, I will be careful!

My personal favorite powder for my many 10mms. I like it better than Accurate Arms 9 which was my previous favorite.

@30-06john

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, around here, it is actually a bit hard to find. Appreciate you watching!

I like that powder I’ve used it a lot on shotgun slug and 44 mag also

@30-06john

2 жыл бұрын

I am probably use it more, other cartridges too.

Great video John! 700x has white dots in it! I've never shot 10mm, or Blue Dot, looks like a great round, though. 🇺🇸👊👍

@30-06john

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeah, I think it is going to get more popular with S&W introducing their new 10mm.

Nice information John and good morning to you sir. Echo

@30-06john

2 жыл бұрын

Good morning Echo. Yeah, Blue Dot looks like a good powder. John

Would have been cool to see the brass after. You're a trooper. I would not even go outdoors in those conditions. 571 foot pounds is good, but I wonder if the 9.4 could get near 700. I have both those projectiles and powder I'll have to give it a go.

@30-06john

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I forgot to add that in the video, but the brass did look OK. Here in Alaska, there is a lot of shooting going on in the winter so that summer is free for camping, fishing and hunting. Thanks for watching and good luck on your load development!

@ShastaBean

Жыл бұрын

To get to 700, that would mean 1255 fps...and from a 4.5" barrel would mean something getting closer to 1275 +/-..that would be seen, if equate to the 5" barrel - that the book velocity data is based off. And while I don't know what the pressure is for Blue Dot at those velocities, if I use estimate using 31.0 as a number to calculate it 1275 means 39,525 PSI...well over max-pressure of 37,500 (31 should be low, of the 3 powders on Hodgdon site for the 200 gr XTP, 32.36 is the average - using 32.36 1275 is 41,259 PSI - which means it would even exceed +P (10% higher) value of 41,250). Even that same number of 1254 fps, from a 5" barrel, and using 31.0 to calculate pressure, it means 38,905. Using 32.36 at 1255 is 40,612 PSI. Definitely something to be careful with.

Thx John for the video. Hope you aren’t getting cabin fever up in Alaska.

@30-06john

2 жыл бұрын

Been cold and snowy for this early into winter! I actually do a lot of load development, also we do a trip to the L48 someplace warm! Merry Christmas!

@frankgagas9569

2 жыл бұрын

@@30-06john Merry Christmas to you also. It was almost 60 and sunny here today. I’m not complaining. I’m glad you spend your time doing something you clearly love.

How far away were you shooting from? Thank you. I’m just getting my supplies for reloading and 10mm is my first attempt. I’m seeking high fps with a 120grain hard cast.

@30-06john

Жыл бұрын

10 yards, also written on the target. If you are just starting to reload, then I would pick a medium load to start to get the process down and to verify your loads shoot OK. 120gr for 10mm sounds really light for a hard cast lead. Good luck, and thanks for watching.

Blue Dot was my original go to powder for loading full power 357 Sig going back 25 years ago. It does equally a fine job in .40 and 10. However, I got turned on to Longshot about seven years ago and do prefer that marginally. For whatever reason, factory load data for Longshot has been neutered when it comes to 10mm compared to data from 3 years ago. If comparing current factory load data between the two powders for 10mm, give me Ble Dot.

@30-06john

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, some load data does change over time. Powder formulation changes too, even if it is not published.. I use Lil'Gun and the newer bottles seem a bit hotter than the ones 4-5 years ago. Hey, thanks for watching!

9.5 of BD with 220gr Straight Shooters Hard Cast Coated 10.0 of BD with 200 XTP Starline Brass CCI 300 Glock 20

@30-06john

Жыл бұрын

You don't give a COAL, but those loads are hotter than any published data. Be especially careful with the 220gr HC coated in a Glock. I have seen the remains of a blown up Glock shooting a factory HC coated. Be safe!

@neilarellano8470

10 ай бұрын

Those are some very hot sounding loads; what velocities are you getting?

@redteam9881

9 ай бұрын

In KKM G20 4.6” barrel 1140 FPS with Hardcast 220gr which is actually 214gr by weight coated no gas check. The 200gr XTP load my max is 10.5 of BD for a honest 1150 fps and accurate.

800x @ 9.6 with 200 XTP Excellent load in G20 1300 FPS in 4.6”

@30-06john

6 ай бұрын

Sounds like a great load! Hodgdon does not catalogue 800X anymore, they still have 700X, so if you see 800X on shelves, better stock up! Thanks for watching!

Basically its a Shotgun Powder! Blue Dot is Good Long shot! Better for Heavy 1200 fps stuff! Thank you! for the vid

@30-06john

Жыл бұрын

I have not tried Long Shot for 10mm yet, but I do have a bottle of it. Hey, thanks for watching!

using g40 10mm kkm barrel starline brass LRprimers and 10g IMR-Blue 200gr rnfp Hi-tek coated. no croni tho based on feel im getting 1250-1325 fps

@30-06john

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a good load! Appreciate your info and watching!

Are you at Birchwood in Chugiak?

@30-06john

Жыл бұрын

In that video I was. Thanks for watching!

I was thinking how did I miss this... Then remembered as watching I commented from other account.

@30-06john

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I heard from Dummy Round that you closed your account and moved over to Rumble. That working OK?

@cw2a

2 жыл бұрын

@@30-06john I didnt close it John. The tube deleted me!!! 15+ years 1000+ videos and almost 1000subs. I LOVE THE FREEDOM OF RUMBLE!!!!

@30-06john

2 жыл бұрын

That's not good, Big Brother in action. Take care.

You can't draw conclusions about accuracy shooting standing or shooting at 10 yards. If you insist on shooting standing you can shoot a 5 shot group and discount the worst 1 or 2 shots then measure the rest. This is because standing is a much less consistent process than using a good rest, you are more likely to have a few erratic shots that way.

@30-06john

10 ай бұрын

Well, I can judge if a load is good or not when shooting a handgun standing at 10 yards. Thanks for watching!

10.5 of BD 200gr XTP CCI 300 Starline brass G20 1.260” Crimp with Lee Factory Crimp Die North Pole 700 FPE Energy Load

@30-06john

9 ай бұрын

Well, depending on coal, that exceeds Hornady load data.

@redteam9881

6 ай бұрын

@@30-06john Of course it does ! The best load in Hornady Manual is the 8.2 of Longshot with 200gr but I believe they even have it lower now …..1200fps in 4.6” a good load but not a max load.