Recall With and Without an E-Collar | Video 10 - recall training for a high prey drive dog.

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In this video - video 10 in the recall training for a high prey drive dog series - I demonstrate what the e-collar - electric collar - MEANS to the dog when they are being trained to come when called.
As you will see, the E-collar MUST MEAN SOMETHING!! It cannot simply 'appear' to the dog simply as a result or consequence of the dog failing to recall during recall training. The e-collar MUST provide the dog with INFORMATION.
In this video, you will hear me talk again about POPA training - Point Of Perception and Adjustment training. When you think in terms of POPA as opposed to 'Low Level' or 'Working Level' for e-collar training, you will become far more comfortable with adjusting the levels of stimulation on accordance with what is required to effectively influence the behaviour of the dog.
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Thank you!
Jamie Penrith
Take the Lead Training.
jamie@taketheleadtraining.co.uk

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  • @kristenray4796
    @kristenray47962 жыл бұрын

    Recalls that put a smile on your face! I'll never forget the first time my dog understood the stim and came roaring back with a big body wag :-)

  • @kristinakay9558
    @kristinakay95582 жыл бұрын

    I lost my dog for about 5 mins on a hiking trail today. She went after a deer and disappeared. Usually she is good with keeping me in her vision but today something snapped and I had no plan B. Needless to say I ordered an E Collar and have a trainer on standby to help me use it correctly. What a stunning recall I envy you! Edit: I really do not expect much from my dog I want to allow her to be as much as safety will allow to be a dog. I hope I will never have to use the collar but it gives me peace of mind to know I can. I love her the most in this entire world and cannot risk harm to her.

  • @LauraHopkinsCDL
    @LauraHopkinsCDL2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. The environment and distractions dictates what level is required. Of course different collars vary depending on the amount of levels. Very interesting Jamie. Thank you : )

  • @JoJo_GSD
    @JoJo_GSD2 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant 🙌🙌

  • @lornacrook89
    @lornacrook892 жыл бұрын

    Thanks again for this! Thoroughly enjoyed it. Really informative about POPA training which came in handy today with squirrels. 👏👏👏 xx

  • @lornacrook89

    @lornacrook89

    2 жыл бұрын

    I also should add that my girl came running back with happy tail and so happy to receive praise 👏 x

  • @Venomator.
    @Venomator.2 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff Jamie, I have really enjoyed this series and learnt so much, while still having sh*tloads of questions… 👏🏻 🤔 Our Ozzy aspires to be as great at this stuff as your student/s, thank you for sharing your time with this gorgeous girl… ✅ 👍🏻

  • @rensha8635
    @rensha86352 жыл бұрын

    In response to your question :- do you use the stim before the whistle (when first training it) because the stim grabs her attention and through the whistle immediately after it, she learns to associate that stim with making a return to you? Then Later on in her training I presume the stim will be phased out and only used as a positive punisher should she fail to respond immediately to the recall - by which time she will already know that the action to follow that positive punisher is to return straight to you?

  • @JG-mv5qn
    @JG-mv5qn2 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff Jamie, if anyone thinks this is shutting the dog down and making the dog worry when the next (shock) is coming then they should be a politician.

  • @sweetlorraine6982
    @sweetlorraine69822 жыл бұрын

    How do i use the collar. Do i give the come command then pear it with the collar.

  • @delcroft7349
    @delcroft73492 жыл бұрын

    Hi Jamie del here first time commenting long time watcher of your channel... OK for me with the stim and the Whistle ..would you have Conditions the E colour and whistle first by using name .. stim with reward .. name stim with no reward...name no stum reward ..name no stim no reward ... done that say out your bk garden and when it is conditioned the out in to a different environment to reinforc the hole practice..would that be the way's you would have started on it ...🤔.. tks love the channel..

  • @HESLOCAL
    @HESLOCAL2 жыл бұрын

    Hi mate hope all is good. What e collar are you using and were can I buy one ? Thank you

  • @adamlunt645
    @adamlunt6452 жыл бұрын

    Which collar is it that you are using?

  • @gaynorsanders8953
    @gaynorsanders89532 жыл бұрын

    Great video! In answer to your question, could it be that the ecollar is the ‘nudge on the shoulder’ that tells her ‘oh, that’s me’ and the command or whistle let’s her know what you want her to do next? If that makes sense…

  • @JG-mv5qn

    @JG-mv5qn

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree with you Gaynor, that's how I use it.

  • @user-qc5jw1xy5l
    @user-qc5jw1xy5l2 жыл бұрын

    8:50 how to find this level each time?

  • @marklamport9140
    @marklamport91402 жыл бұрын

    Hi what Collar are you using, we got one from Calmshop and my Springer Spaniel just ignores it.

  • @kawabungie
    @kawabungie2 жыл бұрын

    You whistle or call as well as e collar because I assume eventually you pose out e collar

  • @HassanAli-qn1uo
    @HassanAli-qn1uo Жыл бұрын

    Jamie, are you not worried that they may run to or a dangerous dog may run to them and attack?

  • @ukcharlietaylor
    @ukcharlietaylor2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Jamie - I've been using a vibrating collar and wondered, since the dog can notice the vibration, what's the advantage of the e collar.

  • @JamiePenrithDogTraining

    @JamiePenrithDogTraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    Many dogs will find the stimulus of vibration too aversive, whereas others will care nothing for it. Most will rapidly desensitise to the initial surprise of it since it relies purely on ‘annoyance’ and nature ensures that most animals will override annoyance in order to carry out biologically essential behaviours such as predation, reproduction, eating, drinking etcetera. Electronic pulse is FAR more variable in both delivery and interpretation. Ranging from imperceptible, through novelty - mild annoyance - irritating - uncomfortable - briefly (likely though highly subjectively dependent) painful - to (again, subjectively dependent) highly startling events. These interpretations are of course subjective and vary across individuals and context compounds. There are very valid instances where startling levels are absolutely necessary to break through competing motivations to ‘reach’ the animal and intentionally develop negative associations in order to secure the welfare of that and other animals. This variability in stimulation and perception is not possible with a vibrating collar for many dogs.

  • @ukcharlietaylor

    @ukcharlietaylor

    2 жыл бұрын

    Incredibly helpful, thanks

  • @mattbates481

    @mattbates481

    10 ай бұрын

    I find vibrate to be a "fixed" stim, far too much for most of my jacks. As Jamie touches on, using electric allows to regulate the stim, for the size of the dog and environment. As mentioned, the stim is used purely to get the desired behaviour. That way the dogs always return with a waggy tail!

  • @kawabungie
    @kawabungie2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Jamie Thinking of using e collar on my 26 month old spaniel who has started chasing hare and also not coming straight back on whistle. Now on a long line whilst on her first shoot season. Would like to book a 1 2 1 and advise on e collar prevarication if needed. Can you advise on how I arrange with you. Cheers Tony

  • @JamiePenrithDogTraining

    @JamiePenrithDogTraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Tony. Please can you drop an email to jamie@taketheleadtraining.co.uk Thank you! 👍

  • @kawabungie

    @kawabungie

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JamiePenrithDogTraining email sent

  • @fwhipp1
    @fwhipp110 ай бұрын

    Can I ask of you are able to share the brand you would recommend purchasing?

  • @JamiePenrithDogTraining

    @JamiePenrithDogTraining

    10 ай бұрын

    If you email me, I’ll advise without looking ‘promotional’! Jamie@taketheleadtraining.co.uk

  • @heyarnold1484
    @heyarnold14842 жыл бұрын

    Considering this but arent e collars banned in UK?

  • @aviduke

    @aviduke

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not yet , they are in Wales.

  • @heyarnold1484

    @heyarnold1484

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@aviduke thanks! Ordered mine today.

  • @heyarnold1484

    @heyarnold1484

    2 жыл бұрын

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  • @JazzyJADAxxx

    @JazzyJADAxxx

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not yet but hopefully very soon

  • @heyarnold1484

    @heyarnold1484

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JazzyJADAxxx i really hope not because this collar is absolutely amazing! I can finally let my dog off leash with confidence!

  • @paulinebackhouse4805
    @paulinebackhouse48052 жыл бұрын

    Hi, I live in England and your in America I can’t get a collar like yours over here. You have Labrador’s beautiful ones but I have a dachshund 16 months but I would love him to be like your GORGEOUS DOGS.

  • @convidtruthshallout

    @convidtruthshallout

    2 жыл бұрын

    He’s not in America! Buy e collars from Amazon

  • @paulinebackhouse4805

    @paulinebackhouse4805

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@convidtruthshallout Thank you 🙏 for your help. Can we buy the remote collars on Amazon too?

  • @convidtruthshallout

    @convidtruthshallout

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@paulinebackhouse4805 yes. But research how to use them properly before you put it on a dog. Look at previous videos on this dog on how to get to the point of use. The dog HAS TO UNDERSTAND THE COMMAND AND RESPOND to you before you use an e collar

  • @paulinebackhouse4805

    @paulinebackhouse4805

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@convidtruthshallout Thank you for all your help 😍

  • @RooBear99
    @RooBear992 жыл бұрын

    You stim FIRST so as not to 'poison' your verbal recall cue? 'Trotting off' made me laugh. I always refer to a woodland run about like this as a 'romp'...it makes my son cringe, he says it's a dog walk not a swingers' party 🤣

  • @ragdollyally

    @ragdollyally

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also, because the stim starts and THEN you call her, the reinforcement for her response is the pressure turning OFF not ON. Negative reinforcement of her turning and committing to coming.

  • @treborob
    @treborob Жыл бұрын

    When you say you won't say what level you're using because it's not important, that's inviting the non-professional to use too high a level surely? I am totally sure you never "fry" the dog because you know the limit.

  • @k9services271

    @k9services271

    11 ай бұрын

    Because you work from 0 upto level for your dog it's science but not rocket science

  • @beverleyfielden4655

    @beverleyfielden4655

    8 ай бұрын

    the level is not important because its the dogs response that is important. The level also changes depending on the dogs level of excitement and adrenaline. the level can go up or down in various situation. so that's why level is not important.

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