Jamie Penrith Dog Training
Jamie Penrith Dog Training
Jamie penrith of take the lead dog training.
How do I train a dog to perform this behaviour? Through a healthy balance of motivation, based on reward training; consistent repetition of consequences; establishing boundaries and discipline early on; understanding what makes each dog tick and so developing a healthy relationship between my dogs and myself.
If you would like to build your relationship with your dog or young puppy; if you would like to learn more email Jamie:
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The legendary Michael Ellis is doing the podcast circuit at the moment would be a great guest and conversation
I'm a big proponent for the ecollar when understood and used correctly The ecollar is a wireless lead nothing more Only fools and idiotic cult folks want it banned
Peer pressure affects everyone, its not just a thing teenagers go through at school. Since the ability to judge others has risen exponentially since the internet and social media, its become hugely obvious that humans of all ages are very susceptible to peer pressure. That means most people simply go along with whatever the "socially accepted" thing is, without daring to go against it. And we look back and wonder why craziness happened in the past, from witch trials to genocides. Well, its because the majority of humans go along with the prevailing "right think" (even if its wrong, and we know its wrong). Except the brave few
This was incredibly well explained, nicely done. Subscribed
Appreciate your video. I'm just wondering what's on this thumbnail
The consequences of an untrained dog. E-collars are unique in training dogs to actively avoid prey animals like sheep. When dogs chase/attack sheep, this is the legal and socially acceptable consequence. This is considered less invasive than a momentary electrical pulse.
Open and honest - perfect. Thanks Jamie
Thank you!
Solid, straight talking sense, as usual.
Thanks Chris! 👍
Thanks, Jamie
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I've had dogs for over 50 years and always had great leash control, but I got myself a Patterdale Terrier and have never experienced a dog with such prey drive, fine until a cat shows up, but I suppose that's part of the dog's nature...fantastic dog in all other ways
Nasty house.
Thank you for all your videos! Could you point me to those that describe how to train the avoidance behaviour that you demonstrate here? I am dealing with a 3 yr old Border collie that has a real drive to chase deer (wild) here in Quebec, Canada. We have used a ecollar to train a very good recall, but the recall failed last week when a deer burst out of the brush 10' from her; she chased it, but gave up and returned home on her. How do I work with her to instill an avoidance response, such as you demonstrated here? Thanks again for all your work! 100% agree with you that all dogs are different, responding differently to different teaching techniques, including the use of ecollars.
Sometimes little dog does this to a bigger dog. Friend had a submissive rottweiler and a dominate pug. The pug would do the same thing to the rottweiler even jump up on his back and give him little nip remind him who was boss. Dominance and submissive dogs it's in the brain not the body.
Why doesn’t the industry rename / rebrand these collars as “tens collars”? Based on what I’ve seen in this video, it’s no different to what I went through for a back condition
If they’re cruel and positive training only is a thing, why do the military and police use them instead of just giving treats? They spend all that money on the devices that there’s no evidence for? ;)
lol punishment/discipline? It’s just the puppies learning to respect eachothers space. And that’s a process, discipline can teach people but it will teach them to full on hate whatever bs “lesson” you’re forcing on a young mind.
The vets, these are the same people who push the garbage dog food, stay out of dog training 99% of people can’t teach their dogs to walk on a leash properly. Most people that use e-collars are professionals refining training behaviour . Anything put in the wrong hands of people can be harmful, guns, knifes, automobile , and so on and so on. We have a large farm impossible to fence, our boxer great on leash , but a mind of his own off leash. E-collar saved him from being given away. Our collar has ring, vibrate, and tingle mode why tingle and not shock coz I put it on my neck first, at level 7 I felt a tingle. Our boxer has never felt more than level 3 , and that is only all of four times since we have the e-collar , it’s been 9 months now. Just the ring tone he will come running back from a hectare away. Might I add the other dogs while running freely with the boxer have learned to respond to the boxers ring tone coolest thing ever all six dogs will come running back just on the ring tone mode.
Giveing it a try shack twice so fair we got my red healer at 5weeks old so she got mad anisxty and barks when kids get wild or at next door people or anyone walking she don’t like anyone outside the home so hopeing this help her and stop driving me crazy with the barking part
Man american shouldnt have dog lmao
Poor mom needs a break from nursing and the puppies need puppy chow 🐾🐶🐾🐶🐾
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Facts. So what is the suggested approach to deal with high prey drive dogs like this? It's impossible to call them off the prey, what is the solution?
It's all within my monthly Patreon program. Link in the description!
Mother, dog reprimanding the pups for wanting to nurse. What a stupid dog.
There’s alway that ONE favorite. Lol
typical Asian mother
Got myself such a discarded GSP beauty 3 years ago. As first dog ever. Two times deemed unfit for hunting, but the blood, drive was there, waiting just to be awakened. He has already digested 3 owners, got an abusive one as last. It was quite a ride of wills, which lasts up till this day, going through some hard times, both of us. A few months ago we passed both of the hunting exams, that are allowed to be taken by pedigree-less dogs, and I have to say, quite some part of the obedience, recall work was based on your videos Jamie. It's doable, but by God, it takes determination, willingness to invest time, money, and brain cells (and maybe some hair) in the dog, in learning, and becoming the leader, which is accepted by the dog.
I did so 13 years ago, adopted an 18 month old gsp who was so reserved in person she would constantly pee and drool, hide herself in a back corner. But put her on a leash first, then long line and finally free roam, was an absolute monster hunter in the field. I lost her nine years later to organ failure. By that time she was as happy in the home as she was in the field. Hard work .. absolutely but well worth the effort.
did you borrow Anubis?🤣, We have a intro to man trailing booked at end of month to help fill that tracking/hunting need in him :) thankfully I am a self taught mechanic 😂, although the stress and worry whilst I worked out both has at times been intense.
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My Cyprus rescue has done the roll on back, unclip the lead trick too. Buggered off into the bushes to go looking for foxes in South London. Now at the age of 8 she's pretty good. Ecollar trained and also just passed her Bronze Good Citizens test (I know - I hate the KC too but that's all there is round here and the local dog training club are a nice bunch of people and it keeps us out of trouble) and we're working towards Silver. Has taken a lot of work, but TBH if I knew then what I know now it would've been a lot less work as I would've known what I was in for and how to manage it!
Wow… watching that takes me back, and not to happier times! Always worried for her, and she could never be happy with a life on lead. Our girl was quite the challenge. Jamie Penrith is a world class (dog) mechanic, and she is the most wonderful animal, loving, intelligent and incredibly well trained. Training tailored to her needs has given her freedom and joy, and we are so proud of her. We are three years into our rescue of this beautiful dog and do not regret it, but we took the responsible decision to engage with an incredible trainer. Thank you, Jamie.
She was and remains an absolute joy! A brilliant and capable teacher … With a special forever place in her student’s heart!! X
We rescued an old otter hound a long while back. He was part of a drag hunting pack of foxhounds and used to get severely bullied by the other dogs for being different. He was also pretty rubbish at hunting as he wouldn't follow the pack very well and would wander off down the first river or stream they came across rather than following the scent trail. He'd been passed around through a few different hunts and was going to be retired (shot) so we said we'd take him on and see if he could be house trained. He lived in a stable for a month then was slowly allowed in the house. First for an hour at a time then a 2-3 (only when we were home). After another few months he was allowed in the house full time. He'd generally stay close around the farm but a few times a year would go off hunting in the fields backing onto the house. He'd be out all night running up & down the fields baying and howling. He'd have a whale of a time then need to sleep for like a week afterwards (we're pretty rural with no major roads nearby and it's all arable around us so no livestock). But yeah, don't think he ever once went on a lead so in that respect he was very easy.
Indeed there are many reasons to Not rescue a dog, they don't want the dog to be crate trained, or spoken to in a stern voice... I also despise the fact, the animals are all desexed, like it or not
I once got banned from a well known London 'rescue' when I met an elderly lady in their reception area. She had a FOUR MONTH OLD male Shih Tzu puppy that was never off lead or out of her securely fenced garden and they had told her it HAD to be castrated! I successfully talked her out of it and she left with her dog's bollox intact. I was overheard by reception staff. They just don't want to hear about the incontinence risks or growth plate problems or any of the other problems (and there are a LOT of them) with neutering - particularly those associated with such radical surgery being performed on immature animals.
We rescued a hunting dog from Europe 10 years ago. He was about four years old when we got him. He passed in December last year 2023. What a dog. He was incredibly hard work because he would attack anyone who came into the house. He would lunge at people and cars outside. It took a tremendous amount of work, but after two years, everything changed. People came to the house, no problem. No more lunging at anything outside. Of course, he wasn't allowed to chase other animals, including dogs.. He was off lead, and he really enjoyed his life. I miss him terribly, but I wouldn't rescue or own a dog like that again.
since you have the dog artificially expressing their genetics - love to see it by the way - is the dog trying to kill livestock? Still need a tool like an e-collar on the dog? Or did the dog figure out there is a time and a place to chase? Show us the after the rabbit chase video? Did he go for the food after the chase?
The video you have asked for was recorded and uploaded to my monthly Patreon program, together with an detailed breakdown of everything within it. But it doesn't stop there! Another video was recorded of him on the lure, going even deeper into explaining they details!
No one got hurt and everybody learned a lesson (except for maybe that little squirmer climbing into the cupboard)
Is training this type of routine in your perfect puppy training program?
No, the puppy program aims to develop well rounded, responsive and reliable dogs. This is a bit more advanced. It is covered to a degree in my monthly Patreon program.
Jamie, I'll repeat: I have nothing against ecollars, they are a good tool with the right training. But this type of "experiment" is disingenuous and is going to feed into those who seek to have tools banned. Hear me out: You could set up the same experiment with a dog who has never been taught what the stim means, get the dog in prey drive, send him, stim him and watch him completely ignore the stim. Maybe flick an ear, but the stim isn't going to stop him - not without training. You know this, I know this. So now, someone who wants ecollars banned shows this "experiment" to prove we don't need ecollars. I agree that telling owners "just find a higher value food" isn't helpful and worse advice regarding food that I won't even get into. But you know food is a perfectly appropriate reward seeing as you use it yourself training a recall. As are toys. What about a ball-obsessed BC? That collie will turn down food every time over their ball. It's all very dog and handler dependent.
The video has nothing to do with e-collars. They aren’t mentioned in it anywhere and haven’t been used. It isn’t an experiment. It’s an observation of what the animal will choose under non-experimental conditions. It’s a basic example of a basic truth., based upon the free actions of the dog. That is all. I very much doubt that electronic tools will be banned because my dog chose not to eat a chicken. However I very much hope that the video ignites a discussion based on observation, and that from that discussion comes growth. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
I love this. Not relevant, but your dog is stunning. My collie puppy would most likely have grabbed the food as she ran buy it, but she wouldn't have stopped. Fortunately, she still follows the two older dogs and they can be called off moving prey, but I can only rely on that for so long.
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You make an excellent point - well argued!
The rabbit is the dogs positive reinforcement not the cheese, chicken or the ham. Tell that to the positive only brigade. They don't fully understand what positive reinforcement means
Any cance to make vidieo with steps to deal leash reactivity towards othe dogs?
Powerful video, I actually thought there’s no way he’s running past that roast chicken. Proves the point without question.
This is bloody fabulous Jamie… no Dog with normal prey drive is going to care about food in our hands, when in drive to catch prey. 👏👏👏 Thanks for the clear dose of reality.
Nice video, I agree with you, but it is also about training dogs for this scenario if you want a recall. I previously had two working dog line Rottweilers and trained them to return to an emergency dog whistle. I trained them with high-value food rewards to recall to the whistle. I also trained them to hunt, and they regularly hunted with me. I am a dog trainer and trained security dogs, where we would stop the drive on a human chase from short distances into a drop or sit. Training is the key, and they use high-value treats when training, or a tug, whatever they desire. You can't call a dog back from this unless they have been trained, and even that is a tough call. For example, I was walking my two dogs one day, and they were about 200m away from me. I recalled them, and as I did, three kangaroos jumped across our path. My dogs turned and went after the Roo's. I couldn't verbally call them back, but the emergency dog whistle worked. It pieced through the noise of them running, and they turned after they heard the noise, off the chase and straight back to me. So, you can bring your dog off this drive, but through training and a little bit of luck 🙂. Thanks for sharing, it makes a lot of sense.
Absolutely amazing to see this. Completely blow off the food. Not interested at all.
Don't worry... I'm going to redo this video for you Jamie. I've been upping my food reward for a long time. My wife and I have been forced to eat only Michelin star meals now so we can BE SURE the dog will come when called. For all the naysayers, he has exposure to the meal when he smells it the night before. If the experiment fails it'll ONLY BE because he really can differentiate between just made gourmet meals vs leftovers... Which is probably our next increase in value of our food rewards. I'll get back to you with the results! 😂😂
High value treats? What's any higher then the tasty fresh meat/blood/bone Truman is chasing? The rest is just carrion 😆🤣
A brilliant example of prey drive, this should be shown to the masses on TV