I hope I can learn to use the E collar as well as Holly did. Thanks for the video

@SuburbanK9DogTraining

5 ай бұрын

I'm glad you liked the video! Acclimating to vibration can be easy and a lot of fun as long as you have a plan. A lot of people just pop the collar on and push the button and the dog ends up getting nervous. Thanks for taking the time to drop a comment and feel free to reach out if you have any questions!

How many feet should the long line be ? And is there one that you recommend? Love your videos 😊

@SuburbanK9DogTraining

5 ай бұрын

25 feet is fine for many dogs. If your dog tends to bolt then 50-100 feet is a safer option but they do tend to get tangled more. We sell ones that we really like, but unfortunately don’t ship them. Ray Allen sells really high quality dog products. I would probably just buy one there. Thanks for watching!!!

When you train the vibration/come command, is it the only command you can teach them to associate with that buzz? For example, if I wanted to teach my dog to “place” at home, and “come” outside of it?

@SuburbanK9DogTraining

3 ай бұрын

I generally only use it for come, but you could use it for both place and come if you make some slight changes. We usually say "come" right as we vibrate but if you did it that way your dog would learn vibration means come and could end up confused in the house when you want them to place. If you want to use vibration for both I would probably teach the dog that the vibration means look at me. That is what I often do with deaf dogs. Then you could follow up with a hand signal or verbal command to ask them to come or place. Hopefully I explained that well, its always harder to type than it is to explain verbally.

Hi! I’ve been watching Tom Davis videos to understand how to use the ecollar and his method confuses me a little because he holds the stim button (at a low level) and gives the dog a command, but I feel like this still relies on the handler being close to the dog to give the command. I was looking for other methods of using the dogtra 280c and found your videos. Pairing the pager function with one specific command all the time makes more sense to me. However I also feel like I would like the ecollar to be able to communicate multiple things. For example, come is obviously a very important use of the ecollar, but what if I wanted to use heel instead so we could continue our hike? Could I use one tap of the pager means come and two taps means heel? Do you think that would work?

@SuburbanK9DogTraining

Ай бұрын

Great question Stephanie! We definitely use the collar differently than Tom does. With most dogs we use the vibration as the come command and that is its only purpose. Your idea of using it for heel with two taps could certainly work but it might be easier to just call the dog with the pager and then issue a verbal heel command when needed. That is how I train most dogs. Pager for come and when the get in front of me I tell them heel (if needed) and then have them circle around to the heel position. If you decide to use the stim function (as a correction) here is a video showing how we do that. You will notice it is much different than Tom's method. kzread.info/dash/bejne/mIKokspvmMyqgdI.html We only use the stim if they mess up and we are using it to stop undesirable behavior. Reach out with any questions!

you set the setting to 0 to start and never increased it so how can u say it was working other than normal commands???

@SuburbanK9DogTraining

5 ай бұрын

Great question! The numbers only apply to the stim function, not the vibration. The vibration level is the same no matter what. The reason we recommend setting the stim function to zero for this step is that if you don’t have a lot of e collar experience you could accidentally push the wrong button and correct the dog for no reason. If that happened on their first training session it could really stress them out or make them nervous. Let me know what other questions you have!

what about using the vibration collar for "hill" and get to a level of leash free dog walks? is it a good use case?

@SuburbanK9DogTraining

3 ай бұрын

Absolutely! A lot of people use the e collar to proof the heel command so that their dog can walk off leash. It really just comes down to your goals.

@heeku_

3 ай бұрын

@@SuburbanK9DogTraining i wonder if the vibration collar works for kind of one purpose only, or using that any training can be achieved. like how does the vibration secures a hard command like hill, stay, come when there are distractions? seems like the dog needs to realize that when he feels the vibration his attention should be fully move to you and he must not break it until he is "free". ofc not turning the vibration to a negative thing.

@SuburbanK9DogTraining

3 ай бұрын

We generally use the vibration as an attention getting device and not a correction. That being said, we firmly believe that there must be consequences for dogs purposely disobeying commands they understand. The consequence could be as simple as grabbing their collar and telling them "no" for ignoring whatever command you are working on. You could also use the stim function on the e collar of course. It doesn't need to be and should not be at a high level. Here is a video where we introduce the stim function with a dog. kzread.info/dash/bejne/mIKokspvmMyqgdI.html

@heeku_

3 ай бұрын

@@SuburbanK9DogTraining tysm for the answers! i do have 2 dots to clarify - 1. stim refers to the vibration e-collar right? as i have ordered a vibration collar, no electric shocks. 2. i was a but confused at the end of the 2nd video regarding the correction. u were calling "no" along with pressing the vibration, isnt it something i dont want to do? im probably missing something.

@SuburbanK9DogTraining

3 ай бұрын

Great questions! The stim is a correction and is different than the vibration. We use the vibration as a positive (we usually tie it to the word come) and the stim as a correction for not listening. You can certainly train without any stim function using a vibration only collar. The first thing you need to decide is this: Is the vibration an indication of what to do or what not to do? Will you use it to mark something you like or as a warning to stop doing something bad? We prefer to use it as a positive but that is not the only way. If you use the vibration as a positive you will need to decide what behaviors will you correct the dogs for and what will you use for a correction? A verbal no works for some dogs. Others may need a lot of training on a long line so that you can stop them when needed. I hope this helps!

Great video. My dog keeps jumping up on our table and kitchen units to eat food. I’ve bought an e-collar to try and stop it. Do you have any suggestions as to how I might use it to stop this behaviour? I was going to use it as a deterrent but I noticed from your video that you said not to do that and use it as a positive experience. He is a 2 year old golden retriever. Any help appreciated. Thank you. Mark

@SuburbanK9DogTraining

18 күн бұрын

Great question Mark! We don't ever use the vibration as a correction, but the stim function can definitely be used that way. Here is a video of us working with a Golden Retriever who steals food from the counter. kzread.info/dash/bejne/rIuKta2Nc5vcg84.html We don't use an e collar in the video but it could be used. I would watch the video and practice for a few days without the e collar and then consider using it if needed. I would definitely spend some time dialing in the level first to make sure you don't over correct. Getting good contact with a Golden can be an issue due to the fur. Here is a video on how we acclimate a dog to the stim function to get the proper working level. In this video we start with the heel command and then move to off leash come. The initial goal is to find a level that the dog cares about but that doesn't scare them. kzread.info/dash/bejne/mIKokspvmMyqgdI.html Want type of collar did you get?

@markh9990

18 күн бұрын

@@SuburbanK9DogTraining Thank you! I watched the video and will start trying this tomorrow! Thanks again.

Can this be safely used to help correct a dogs behavior who is too jumpy and barks at guests? With positive reinforcement only somehow? Or are these never used for corrective purposes? We wanted vibration only no shock to help with our large breed

@SuburbanK9DogTraining

9 күн бұрын

Hey James! If you want to use the vibration to stop jumping and barking you will need to do things very differently than we do in this video. The dog will need to be conditioned to the vibration being a bad thing rather than a good thing. Here is a video of how we stop jumping at the door. You could do this and use the vibration collar as a correction in this method. kzread.info/dash/bejne/rJuWrLOjfri0Zto.html

@jamesrusso4446

9 күн бұрын

Thank you so much! We have hope!!

I have a Great Dane/ St Bernard mix. Shes 1 year and has 160 acres to run. We are off grid. It was winter for 6 months and she had her first heat cycle and then her spay. Recently she's been free to run and play, however she's become a hunter. Rabbits and birds . She also going to neighbour's and scaring shit out of them when she barks at them. She's never went after a human. I am a hairdressor and she is always within feet of me and clients. So its when I'm not around that she intimidates. Like tge police telling you tgat your teen ager is the neighborhood bully. We have her on run now and starting e collar training today. Baby steps for the giant Jasmine . Lol

@SuburbanK9DogTraining

Ай бұрын

Good luck Tammy! There are some really cool GPS collars you can try if you want the ability to know where she is at all times. Let me know if you need any recommendations!

My collar seems to be sending a delayed vibration. I am working with my dog on his insane nonstop barking. I hit vibration and it seems delayed in getting to the collar. Am I supposed to hold the button down?

@SuburbanK9DogTraining

3 ай бұрын

Hey Danielle! What brand/model collar do you have?

What if you do accidentally start using the e collar with the pager as a correction for the first training session. Is it possible to switch to a positive or would that be to confusing for the dog?

@SuburbanK9DogTraining

Ай бұрын

You can definitely still make a change! Just spend time make the pager extra fun. Pair it with treats, praise or toys at first and soon your pup will love it!

Do you give the dog a chance to come before using vibrate or stim first or use it anyway as you say come ?

@SuburbanK9DogTraining

2 ай бұрын

We use the vibrate as we say come. We pair the vibration with come so that through time when the dog feels the vibration they associate it with coming to you. The reason we do it this way is that the vibration is not used as threat or a warning. Its a positive. We never train that way with the stim function though. If we use stim it is only as a correction if the dog has not listened.

@type2life396

2 ай бұрын

@@SuburbanK9DogTraining Would you use an e collar to deter barking while in a car ? This is when she spots another dog, Verbal No Bark, she continues to bark… would you use stim or vibration to deter ?

@stephanieparis33

Ай бұрын

@@type2life396I’m not a trainer but from my understanding from this video, in the case of deterring barking in the car, you would use the stim as a correction for not listening to your “no bark” command

Do you stop the vibration as soon as she turns and starts to come to you?

@SuburbanK9DogTraining

4 ай бұрын

Great question Jon! We generally do a very quick vibration right as we say the word come. Some trainers use the vibration as a form of negative reinforcement by allowing the vibration to be startling/scary and then turn it off when the dog gets to them. That way the dog learns when it comes to them the unpleasant thing stops. We use the vibration very differently and it is meant to be a fun thing for them. That is why we often acclimate it with treats to ensure the dog knows the vibration is a good thing. Once the dog is acclimated to the vibration we can then acclimate them to the stim function on the collar which can be used as a correction if needed. Thanks for watching and reach out with questions any time!

@jonroth9796

4 ай бұрын

Thanks!@@SuburbanK9DogTraining

Must be a KZread thing because I'm hitting the thumbs up like button but it's not doing it. The button seems to be stopped or stuck on 275.

@SuburbanK9DogTraining

2 ай бұрын

Weird! Sometimes I will look at someone's video and it will show zero likes and then halfway through the video it shows the full number. Thanks for watching!

That's great My voice doesn't carry so far and I am calling (shouting) like Mickey Mouse on Helium....... even me can't stand it We like to go into the woods and this way way I can leave him a bigger distance 🔭

@SuburbanK9DogTraining

3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 The vibration is awesome and definitely prevents you from having to yell!!!

I can understand if you don't want to show the brand you're using, but not actually showing close-ups of the device and what you're doing with it as well as explaining what the e-collar is around the neck and exactly how it works, is a big lack of information here. Does the car have a device that has problems on it, are they metal are they plastic tipped? Do you need to save your dog's neck down at all for it to fill a collar, if the dog is a water dog, a doodle or a wheaten? So many unanswered questions in this video. I guess I'm giving you a new content right? Lol. Otherwise talk a little bit slower, don't repeat yourself.

@SuburbanK9DogTraining

2 ай бұрын

Definitely agreed that there are a lot of unanswered questions. Our goal with this video was just to show people how to acclimate a dog to vibration without scaring them. A lot of dogs get scared during this process because they don't know the vibration is coming and then don't know its supposed to be a good thing. We really want people to see that this process is fun for you and the dog when you do it right.