She can shoot the child, but she can't bring herself to shoot the guy responsible for causing her to shoot the child.

@nont18411

Ай бұрын

I always hate this “the protagonist refusing to kill the bad guy when they should have” plot armor bs

@Touriquette

Ай бұрын

​@@nont18411 Even worse us when they have no real reason not to

@ssharp755

Ай бұрын

Worse is that he makes his protagonist an utterly amoral villain without even realising it, she killed the kid because she believed him when 'Belisarius told her he would protect her'. No moral agency and she regrets her actions seemingly only because he broke his promise to make her immune to punishment for the murder of the child. It's only that betrayal that causes her to reflect (and lets not even get into the utter idiocy of having him scream about her betrayal to a crowd that was fully complicit in the murder of the Royal couple, it's not like they need to be convinced of anything) utterly tone deaf imagery for imagery's sake which makes no sense upon even the briefest contemplation. Scream it down a radio to a remote security battalion once she's in custody perhaps, but gesturing histrionically at her while she's still armed to willing collaborators is absolute nonsense.

@josephkerrigan733

Ай бұрын

​@@nont18411Especially when they have super medical technology in this universe. So she absolutely could have shot him a load of times and then gone "I thought I killed him but they brought him back". Instead Zach just has to go "...no I won't kill the obviously evil bad guy... only the child!!!" Insane

@DonVigaDeFierro

Ай бұрын

Wouldn't have mattered since they could just revive him like the bad guy from the first movie... EVEN MORE REASON TO SHOOT HIM!!! Holy shit. Fuck Hack Snyder.

Unfortunately we needed Rebel Moon because it knocked the mask off Snyder's face and showed people how bad of a film maker he really is hopefully people will stop giving him money now

@Felipin7228

Ай бұрын

You're right. I used to be a Snyder defender and now I regret I ever thought that man knew what he was doing.

@ninatomamon5630

Ай бұрын

I understand you People made fun of me for criticizing Snyder even if I was only doing it as a joke. It's good to know that little by little people are going to eat the balls of this low-quality filmmaker.

@codycigar6542

Ай бұрын

This guy has always been bad. Sucker Punch felt like a 4 hour movie to me it was so dreadfully boring.

@pdzombie1906

Ай бұрын

​@@codycigar6542 Exactly, if you needed things to get to Rebel Moon to realize that, It's more of a "you" problem than Snyder's...

@yamatonoryuujin4871

Ай бұрын

To be fair he works better if there is someone actually limiting him and only if he is involved in cinematic shots with heavy supervision, though what I consider to be good from him was Guardians of Gahool but even that movie has issues, the shots he directed there were amazing however I don't understand how this dude is inconsistent with what he should already be familiar with at this point, cause the camera work in his later movies are dogshit compared to Guardians and that's a fully animated movie about fucking owls and somehow his best work arguably his camera work there is decent to great, since the writing aspect was taken from the book with heavy cut off by the writers to make it fit although they did change some of the significant parts which is baffling and somewhat understandable, it's absolutely valid to ask what the hell was Zack on when it comes to actual growth as a director it's like the guy heard good things about his work and then instead of improving decided he was perfect all if a sudden.

Guys, we must wait for the Director's cut. Surely 30 years worth of slow mo and all the sex/gore will fix everything.

Can't wait for the RLM "Best of the Worst" featuring only Zack Snyder films.

@pdzombie1906

Ай бұрын

Have they made videos that long?

@verazollinger6862

Ай бұрын

What a great idea!

@patrioticcat5768

Ай бұрын

Im gonna wait for the RLM directors cut of that video.

@zigzag1630

Ай бұрын

@@pdzombie1906 "Have they made videos that long?" My son, RLM were the original internet longmen, back when people thought it was insanity to spend more time reviewing a move than it takes to watch it.

@PoopaChallupa

Ай бұрын

The Last Zach Snyder on Earth - RLM

It stuns me that Zach really think morally gray character is “she nixed a child princess cos she was assured she would suffer no consequences” Zach, that’s a villain. Straight up. I don’t care if she cries and feels sad about it. Those are the actions of a bad person.

@marcogenovesi8570

Ай бұрын

but hear me out, G R A I N

@giulizpaviz6381

Ай бұрын

He should be old enough to know something that even an edgy teenager would say "dude, uncool"

@jeremybrimmer1990

Ай бұрын

Wasn't that also in Marco Polo on Netflix where khan smoothers the kid emperor?

@filteredjc4653

29 күн бұрын

It's not wrong if you get away with it - Hollywood morality

Watching rebel moon feels like watching Han Solo movie in a world where star wars doesnt exist

@patterofheads256

Ай бұрын

That's because it's based on a rejected star wars script.

@mryellow6918

29 күн бұрын

Nah, I think solo can stand by it's sell as a film over rebel moon tbh

To go back to an old quote about snyder, when he says he enough footage to make a 6 hour cut of his movie, how about he uses it first time round to make a good movie instead!

Another video essay said this too. The only way to enjoy BvS is to basically join the cult of Zach Snyder. "It's his style." ~ "He's always made movies like this." ~ "It's a brave artistic choice." ~ "An acquired taste" If you have to reach OUTSIDE the content your watching to enjoy the content you're watching... I don't think you're consuming content correctly enough to tell other's they're wrong for not liking it.

The most consistent Zack Snyder character is Zack Snyder.

I can’t believe I’m saying this, Jurassic World Dominion is unironically better than Rebel Moon Part 2

@spiderjeranimo4992

Ай бұрын

"This turd is better than that turd."

@grandarkfang_1482

Ай бұрын

​@spiderjeranimo4992 No, it's like saying "IBS is better than Constipation."

Here is what Netflix doesn't realize; viewers doesn't mean they would've paid to see/ actually care about it. In realistic terms how many people would've paid to see a movie like this?

@Alex-pm9vy

Ай бұрын

I would have, I probably would have left the theatre disapointed but I like the costumes and over all design of it. A tad too edgy but I would have gone to the theatre for the first part at least.

@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access

Ай бұрын

@@Alex-pm9vy I would not. No disrespect but I personally need more than “it’s bad but hey it looks purdy” to justify spending AT LEAST $30-$50 at the movie theater in a time when gas is $5 a gallon (PNW native)

@corvus8638

Ай бұрын

@@Werewolf.with.Internet.AccessSame. Not paying these people for their shotty films

I think Chris Gore said this, but all it takes for a franchise is two great films. If Netflix drops more money on this hack they deserve to lose all their money, and I'm very reticent to call people hacks, but I legit think I could have made something better than either Rebel Moon if give the money and resources, that's how little I think of Snyder.

@ManHamAlsume

Ай бұрын

Snyder shot Chris with the stroke gun

@grandarkfang_1482

Ай бұрын

​@@ManHamAlsume💀

I feel like with Snyder a lot of his fans aren't actually online. Like, at my work EVERYONE had seen the Snydercut and was talking about it. Similarly, everyone had seen 300, and Watchmen, and the DC movies, and even Sucker Punch. Those people are pretty irrelevant to online discourse, and they're not very loyal, which is a double-edged sword because it means that if Rebel Moon is bad they might not know about it, or care about it enough to not see Snyder's next movie. Like, his next project could be a remake of Ice Cream Man and people would happily see it and just completely forget about Rebel Moon.

@AshleyWilliamsN7

Ай бұрын

He started out strong with his first 3 movies, Dawn of the Dead's remake, 300, and Watchmen. It has been all downhill from there with a slight bump up for his Justice League, which was good when compared to the original Whedon cut, and then immediately back to free fall.

@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917

Ай бұрын

@@AshleyWilliamsN7 Remember on EFAP when they said that Snydercut was actually worse than the Whedon cut, but people thought it was better because there's more of it?

@AshleyWilliamsN7

Ай бұрын

@@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 I respectfully disagree with their assessment, and side with RLM on this film. And I normally tend to fall on EFAPs side more when the two have opposite reactions to a film.

@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917

29 күн бұрын

@@AshleyWilliamsN7 I don't see how you can claim it's better when a major plot point is that Darkseid forgot about the only planet that ever successfully drove him away, and they did it with a few arrows. At least Whedon was smart enough to cut that.

Films that performed poorly when released then found a cult following later, were usually pretty low budget but made by a passionate team that really worked hard to make it what they wanted it to be, to realise a collective vision. These Rebel Moon movies are just the vanity project of one deluded narcissist. They have no redeeming qualities and no lasting , or timeless, message. That's why they aren't good now and won't become cult classics.

@DonVigaDeFierro

Ай бұрын

This is an anti-classic: Deriving shit from the most popular sci-fi franchises. Obvious writing by commitee. Expensive production. Made by one of the biggest names on Hollywood. Too boring to be mocked. Too generic to be remembered. If this movie is not forgotten, it will only be used as an example of incompetent filmmaking, like the black and white "before" on a product ad. Zack Snyder _wishes_ that Rebel Moon shared the same category as Tommy Wiseau's The Room.

It’s honestly shocking to me why Zac Snyder wants to make FOUR more of these movies. This is some of the laziest vapid writing I’ve ever seen and some of the most terrible world building I’ve ever seen. I feel no passion from this movie it’s just so bland. I’ve seen both of these movies and I still don’t understand anything about the powers in this world. I mean it’s kinda implied that humans are under the illusion magic isn’t real, since the powers of the little girl were only described as rumors. But the Asian chick chops off her hands for her ancestor ghosts to possess her and give her fighting powers and no one bats an eye? It’s confusing???

@DonVigaDeFierro

Ай бұрын

Don't forget the director's cut of all those movies. 12 movies total.

@Twisted_A

Ай бұрын

@@DonVigaDeFierro That’s insane! To plan for TWELVE movies ahead of time. Does he not understand TV series are a thing?

@kieronchick1663

29 күн бұрын

You are confused by someone wanting to get paid.

@Twisted_A

29 күн бұрын

@@kieronchick1663 oh yeah, forgot about that 😂

The reason they push the franchise model is because the industry is so bloated with such a ridiculously high amount of money being invested in everything, that it isn't enough to just make a good movie anymore. The way they have made cinema as a business today is too big to sustain itself, everything has to be a franchise, everything has to have multiple cuts they can sell, everything has to have prepackaged sequels and make hundreds of millions of dollars per release. It was a lot of short-sighted gains with ZERO regard for where the industry might be in 10+ years, especially if they couldn't produce anything anyone would bother paying to see.

@QuatrinaVR

Ай бұрын

It’s due for a market correction now that the MCU has died and can no longer be the corporate studios’ excuse for chasing franchises

@Gakusangi

Ай бұрын

@@QuatrinaVR The market may, but that shift in gains will burn a lot of people, most of whom I have no sympathy for, but it'll be pretty brutal when it happens.

@giulizpaviz6381

Ай бұрын

It's so sad how buisness ruin even art. Think about it, the first Star Wars movies will still be remembered for generations, Rebel Moon in a matter of few years will be forgotten because of how shallow it is

Zack Snyder is such a Rebel Moon Filmaker!

@yoyothemanman

Ай бұрын

Stop insulting him! 😂

@spiderjeranimo4992

Ай бұрын

Rebel Without A Clue.

Don’t know if it’s been mentioned before, but the “trapped space god powering the ship” is also lifted from a comic - in the Annihilation crossover, (RIP Keith Giffen) Galactus is used as an energy source by Annihilus to power his attack on the universe

@dodojesus4529

Ай бұрын

Its also in 40k kinda, the necron shattered their gods and are using those shards as weapons

@DiceOL

28 күн бұрын

Also in Trigun

I started the movie but it's stuck in slow motion and I don't know what to do, please help it's been on for two days and it keeps going

Zack Snyder started his career making music videos, and he NEVER developed beyond that. Perhaps that's where he should have stayed.

Zach Snyder was not the cinematographer for 300, Larry Fong was. That is the reason why it looked good before, someone else was framing the shots.

I read that as "Rebel Moron" and honestly I'm sticking with my brain's misfire, what a pile of trash this movie was.

6:50 as a former Snyder fan, I feel that in my bones. I was one of those "No seriously, you just don't understand what a misunderstood masterpiece this movie is" types for the longest time, but every time he opens his mouth, he just proves all his haters right.

I can’t wait for the extended cut with extra slow-mo wheat harvesting

Movies like this make me wish that I could instantly get an audience with major studios, because I know I can do far better than this. I got into this industry because I want to make better movies, and every passing year just looks like we're falling into the dark ages of film. Competent people need to take back control.

EFAP on point as always

In my friend group, I will constantly reference Star Wars or see a Star Wars reference and say that it was from Rebel Moon

Realising this a mare 2 hours before Rando's Rebel Moon vid is suspicious, a suspicious amount of hours

Literally just walked down stairs to see my dad at the end of part 2 and he literally said 'I don't know how I put up watching this entire piece of shit'

@LethallyReptarded

29 күн бұрын

The only thing worse than seeing my poor father having sat through that few hours of utter shite is the fact I'm close to 30 and still live at home

Zack Snyder is the movie-maker equivalent of the monorail guy from The Simpsons.

recency bias is a thing, we cannot forget how completely terrible, bad, ludicrous, and abhorrent Sucker Punch is. literally one of the worst movies ever made

@whitethunderclap451

22 күн бұрын

I liked Watchman and 300. Didn’t realize he did Sucker Punch and now that movie finally makes sense to me. It was pretty awful.

I guess Batwoman is the "Easy Mode" of EFAP, but damn if Snyder's work isn't a close second (top 5 at least).

Rebel Moon is the Room of Star Wars knockoff movies.

Yeah, but Zombie movies are usually kinda B anyway. This was supposed to be an event, like S+ rank.

When Snyder Cult always want a Snyder Cut of his films, they still cannot admit how bad they really are😊

Imagine trying to remake 'Seven Samurai' but, in space. Not nearly enough slowmo grain for my liking.

@marcogenovesi8570

Ай бұрын

We had that already, it's called Battle Beyond the Stars

@honestkyn718

26 күн бұрын

You can do that... if you're smart

I regret being excited for Rebel Moon. These movies are proof Zack values massive spectacle more than good storytelling.

Simple Zack

@horaciosi

27 күн бұрын

"Slow mo mu-mu-muhhh make me'ha-aaaapy."

David Lynch was turned down by Netflix. Just let that sink in.

Hi wolf!

@a_lost_one

Ай бұрын

'Translate to English' o_O Do you speak wolf, good sir? KZread thinks you do.

@marcogenovesi8570

Ай бұрын

@@a_lost_one youtube is drunk

What I've noticed is that people stop talking about good new media they see probably because they are afraid of hearing something they don't like about the writer directors producers or actors

@blockdparty

Ай бұрын

In short people don't talk about good new media to protect their opinions of it.

@chuckleshelicopterwigwamjo6305

Ай бұрын

​@blockdparty They do though. If you mean in general, or on EFAP specifically, they often do. People aren't afraid of having their appreciation of something shat on, if anything there is much more toxic positivity and shutting down of "negative" opinions in wider culture right now.

Worst film so far.

@CaptainTitforce

Ай бұрын

The next movie will reveal someone's mother is also named Martha

Worst guess with that sudden inclusions of 40k namings - Snyder trying to position himself into situation where he can be hired to make 40k movie in case initial series take off for some reason. And sadly that isn't completely out of realm of possibilities

Army of the dead somehow has a higher rotten tomatoes score than Watchmen 😅

@ChucksSEADnDEAD

Ай бұрын

Without looking at it, I'd assume that Watchmen was judged by a higher proportion of legacy media and writers who had years of experience writing about movies, while these days it's online publications and even legacy media just hires glorified bloggers. Plus they're all in the same media conglomerate so the movie technically belongs to their parent company so a positive review is encouraged.

@marcogenovesi8570

Ай бұрын

rotten tomatoes is owned by movie studios, the ratings are meaningless, especially in more recent times

@CaptanF0rever

Ай бұрын

@@ChucksSEADnDEAD I was talking about audience score, not critic's score

I liked the Snyder Cut, Watchmen, and 300, but no way do I think they are great movies. They appeal to my love of comic books. Meanwhile, Rebel Moon is beyond the pale of awful and it’s the first absolutely awful Snyder film. I was introduced to him after Man of Steel, so I never thought much of him until now. This guy needs to rethink his creative process or he won’t be getting anywhere the level of interest as he did at DC.

What’s crazy is you guys forgot army of thieves the follow up to army of the dead

@pastichiorocker

14 күн бұрын

Not directed by Snyder.

There you go then

I don't know who Zack Snyder is, but is he related to this other director I keep hearing about, "Clown Snyder"?

I have no desire at all to see the Rebel Moon series. Not going to bother.

remember netflix bright universe with will smith? even that doesnt work either

Give Snyder a happy meal

#SaveRebelMoonVerse

@honestkyn718

26 күн бұрын

From Snyder

Snyder sucks deep to the very core

Mom said it's my time: first!

I have no idea how can anyone defend this. I was pretty generous to Snyder up to Rebel Moon, which is hands down the worst movie I've seen in ages.

The nonsense feast scene was a sneaky Pro-Palestine signal. The watermelon is a code for the Palestine flag (red flesh, white rind, green shell, black seeds). People who defend this movie loved that.

@Ale-dd3ek

28 күн бұрын

You made loving watermelon political I Need a drink

@DiceOL

28 күн бұрын

What

@honestkyn718

26 күн бұрын

Dude the movie is already bad enough it's not pro Palestin because Snyder is incapable of subtly

@egomania2792

Күн бұрын

TF are you talking about dude? This movie was shot and done way before that war even started. Y'all "everything is political" mf'ers really need to apply your thinking meat more often.

BvS is the only Snyder film I watched and that’s all I needed to know he was trash

GTFO, Army of the Dead and Sucker Punch are way worse than this.

Cultists 🤣🤣 Grow up.

@honestkyn718

26 күн бұрын

They are cultists worshipping a shifty movie director

@Buttsy1

26 күн бұрын

@@honestkyn718 Ok snowflake ❄️

Haven't seen, 'Army of the Dead,' or, 'Rebel Moon. Didn't care. Positivity is water in the Sahara desert around here. Re-Review SOMA, MauLer. Give us a drink.