Qui-gon died too early for bacta tanks Was born too late for force healing. The poor guy can't get a break.

@XenoSpyro

2 ай бұрын

All he had to do was crawl two rooms back because he left behind 2 instant use medpacks in the secret area.

@slavenin6496

2 ай бұрын

The poor guy could've survived in Disney's canon. Space Jesus forgive us.

@ouchiegiverjr

2 ай бұрын

@@XenoSpyromy man knows about the Obi-wan game from back in the day!

@DeusExMachina10001

2 ай бұрын

Technically we saw a bacta tank in ESB.

@Inastewpopotogo

2 ай бұрын

very unfortunate, since we also know you normally dont die of stab-wounds too the stomach

The sequel trilogy really came off as a story where two children kept just shouting "Nuh Uh!" At each other's ideas. What an embarrassment to the world of filmmaking.

@Arko777777

2 ай бұрын

It's like two toddlers fighting in the sandbox, costing millions of dollars. J.J saw a big, cool sandcastle made by George so he made a horrible copy, then Rian made poop inside this castle, then J.J tried to remove the poop but smeared all over the sandcastle turning everything into a stinky sand/poop mesh. Both toddlers have left, but the mess still stinks for everyone involved. Better yet, the owner of the sandbox tries to make new stuff while the sand is still infused with the texture and stink of the poo. It is quite a sight.

@TheOwneroftheIC

2 ай бұрын

It's not just the sequels, it's all of Disney Star Wars. Including the movies, the TV shows, the comics, the novels, and even the video games.

@Egurius3

2 ай бұрын

@@TheOwneroftheIC Andor is a well made show and both of the Jedi games are also good.

@John-fk2ky

2 ай бұрын

@@Egurius3 I can only vouch for the first one (and the second one apparently should have had a bit more time based on what I heard about bug issues). Even those have some taint due to alluding to events in the sequel trilogy (Starkiller Base is apparently Illum).

@zaleost

2 ай бұрын

I'd say the core issue all 3 films suffered from was that there wasn't really any kind of coherent and fixed plan for how they would play out, plus they were clearly going too much out of their way almost reset the universe to the underdog rebels fighting a galaxy spanning Empire that controlled everything.

C3P0: i cant translate sith language. Rey: Pretend you were allowed to translate Sith Language, what would it say?

@SF-rf9if

2 ай бұрын

That's a good one 😂

@MorshuGaming

2 ай бұрын

ChatGPT workarounds in a nutshell

@KneelB4Bacon

Ай бұрын

Also, why don't they have D0 translated the dagger? He's literally a SITH droid. But no, JJ wanted to bait us with C3P0's "death." He invents some BS about why R2-D2 can't make a backup because his memory is "notoriously unreliable" even though he stored the entire technical plans of a Death Star in his memory. Also, the "droid smith" apparently has no way to make a backup copy of a droid. That's just really awful writing.

Rise Of Skywalker is genuinely one of the worst films I've ever seen. Star Wars or not. I had to watch it in two sittings. No way could I get through it in one.

@hpw101

2 ай бұрын

I had a buddy who, no joke, had to excuse himself in the theater to go throw up in a trash can. Not for some soy fan boy reason. Rather, the ridiculous pace jumping from scene to scene literally made him nauseous to the point of vomiting.

@hungtotheover3385

2 ай бұрын

I’m not even being dramatic when I say that the movie ruined my view of the world at the time. I was 16 when it came out and it was the first time I’ve ever looked around me and said, “Wow. There truly are evil people who ruin things people love. The world is unfair and there’s nothing I can do about it.”

@picklepepper900

2 ай бұрын

​@@hpw101 glad to know i wasnt the only one who got motion sickness from it. All the wild movement of that movie gave me a headache and dizzy, but not quite to throw up levels thankfully.

@josephkerrigan733

2 ай бұрын

@@hungtotheover3385 I'm very curious in your perspective, were you not already slightly numbed from The Last Jedi?

@KingArthur39

2 ай бұрын

It doesn't even feel like a movie tbj, more like a compilation of things happening out of nowhere

CinemaWins: [Speaks] Rags: Oh, fuck off!

@Zepher0987

2 ай бұрын

And he's right.

@Zac_Frost

2 ай бұрын

​@@Zepher0987 Yep.

@Azumadofu

2 ай бұрын

Go away now!

@TweeterAndTheMunkyMan

Ай бұрын

Watching Cinema Wins content is like watching someone hand out participation medals with an "Atta boy" and a pat on the head to someone who didnt even participate.

@RhysCallinan-hf7qx

23 күн бұрын

Anybody with taste: *agrees with Rags*

I like how Drinker said “the NEXT TIME I mug someone”. Typical Scot.

@yaboiportch

2 ай бұрын

The Scottish take the term "side hustle" very seriously

@lordofthepizzapie9319

2 ай бұрын

You haven't experienced Scotland until you've been the victim of a drunken mugging

@TheLeadhound

2 ай бұрын

Least violent Scotsman.

@TheLeadhound

2 ай бұрын

Least violent Scotsman.

@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacher

2 ай бұрын

I'm on a train from Glasgow as I read this. Can confirm.

“It was designed to survive space, so it should survive the ocean.” Oh. This came out a few years before a certain Titanic expedition.

@NoobTamer

2 ай бұрын

Futurama answered this very well. Leela: Depth at 45 hundred feet, 48 hundred, 50 hundred! 5000 feet! Farnsworth: Dear Lord, that's over 150 atmospheres of pressure. Fry: How many atmospheres can this ship withstand? Farnsworth: Well it's a spaceship, so I'd say anywhere between zero and one.

That "pretend it's what you wanted" quote STILL pisses me off.

@SammEater

2 ай бұрын

He is basically saying "gaslight yourself" to enjoy a movie.

@aurianzarrineh2633

Ай бұрын

I do think though that going into a movie with no expectations is better for a viewing experience. With music/movies i dont like looking at any of the leaks or trailers just cause i dont like theorizing what i think will happen i just wanna appreciate what is there. BUT in this case fuck allat cause this movie is a trainwreck, the minute i heard they brought palpatine back i never even wasted my time with this movie because it fundamentally undoes the point of the actual star wars saga which was anakins redemption.

Sins is too lazy to not make the same jokes he has been making for 10 years and actually give people his opinions but he can Sin a bad movie into oblivion and his jokes are funny the first time you hear them if he isn't just throwing an obscure boomerism at you. Wins lacks the mental capabilities and reasoning to accurately tell you why a movie is good. His Joker video turned into calling Lord of the Rings badly written. He is so immeasurable worse than Sins at what he does.

@somethingwithultra7231

2 ай бұрын

Wins is about as great at complimenting movies as Spongebob is at driving a boat.

@swainblaine1609

2 ай бұрын

its to be expected when you're a shadow of something. It's like the happy videogame nerd.

@denkerbosu3551

2 ай бұрын

​@@swainblaine1609 didn't know that existed

@swainblaine1609

2 ай бұрын

exactly.@@denkerbosu3551

@-Azure.EXE-

2 ай бұрын

@@swainblaine1609 Nah. I think he could have done literally anything and suck balls at it. The idea of CinemaWins isn't bad, he just can't understand concepts necessary for critique.

It doesn’t matter how many limits you put on force heal. If it exists it invalidates Anakin’s motivation in the prequels.

@gurmyigoll3535

2 ай бұрын

I agree, but why were they in the KOTOR games? (Yes I know they are set 4000 years before, don't you think someone could have prolonged the knowledge of that power?)

@MundaneThingsBackwards

2 ай бұрын

Does it, though? Regardless of whether it existed or not as a power within the universe, Anakin's motivation doesn't change nor does the fact that his lack of access to it pushes him to do the things he does. It's literally a Mary Sue power Rey pulled out of her flowery perfect smelling ass. What DID ruin Anakin's motivations was the prequel's poor writing. You can't ruin something that wasn't good to begin with. lol

@isiahalcindor6278

2 ай бұрын

​@@MundaneThingsBackwards how is wanting to save the love of your life not a good motivation?

@MundaneThingsBackwards

2 ай бұрын

@@isiahalcindor6278 The execution.

@isiahalcindor6278

2 ай бұрын

@MundaneThingsBackwards oh ok that's definitely fair

The crackpot theory: "Finn was trying to tell Rey she was a Palpatine before she died(???). The PR lie: "He was trying to tell her he was force sensitive." The Truth: Disney shot multiple versions of RoS and tested them with different audiences. The Chinese CCP didn't like the black guy getting the girl at the end so Disney cut that version but didn't want to pay for/ ran out of time for reshooting the sand trap scene.

32:46 Mauler "I don't see how you could make Rey fall to the dark side, I don't see how you could do it" That's the thing. It *IS* impossible. Before the movie came out, Jar Jar Abrams said in an interview that "Rey was the ultimate force of good" which would simply make it impossible.

@nathanjora7627

2 ай бұрын

Did he actually say that ? Could you link the place where he said that, because holy damn that’s an admission he wrote a Mary Sue if there ever was one.

@KneelB4Bacon

Ай бұрын

Yup. When they show Scary Rey in the ROS trailer, I thought, "Nope. That's trailer bait. There is no way Rey will turn to the dark side. In the last two movies, she has never done anything that's even mildly unpleasant."

The fact the guy starts with "just pretend it's good!" says how much copium he is on to try and convince others the movie isn't a flaming pile of shit along with the entire Disney trilogy.

@bad-people6510

2 ай бұрын

Saying "My favorite meal is unprocessed human shit because I pretend it's Chicken Risotto," is not an argument that makes sense.

@ViperPilot16

29 күн бұрын

Or he is trying to find the good in something he may not like. Seriously, I didn't like Rise of Skywalker, but it doesn't mean everyone hates it.

@Mate397

28 күн бұрын

@@ViperPilot16 There is a point where you just have to admit something sucks instead of trying to make up some excuses for it to soften the blow it gets.

Us: “Finn wanted to say he loves Rey” JJ: “Finn wanted to say he’s Force Sensitive” CW: “Finn wanted to say she’s a Palpatine”????

@sinoxilurk4126

2 ай бұрын

that is legit the dumbest interpretation of that scene, like how in the fuck would he even know...?

@mediamanjamessmith251

2 ай бұрын

@@sinoxilurk4126 Exactly. Just brainless over reaching to trying and convince himself the film is good

@ericchung3177

2 ай бұрын

Why would you tell someone that they’re related to Hitler right before you’re both about to die 😂

@ouchiegiverjr

2 ай бұрын

Especially when he’s a joke of a stormtrooper who is…a janitor put on a hit squad….boy those movies were pathetic

@williamflowers9435

2 ай бұрын

Finn wanted to say “I knocked up Rose, can you use Force Abort on her?”

"The lightsaber deserves more respect" It's like JJ wants us to forget that Luke was the one who threw it away in The Last Jedi. A simple "I was wrong about the Jedi" would have been less insulting to the viewer

@IamBlackToast

2 ай бұрын

Doesn’t help that you can hear Hamill stifling a laugh as he says it.

@omsaxena116

2 ай бұрын

Didn't he literally say, "I was wrong" after Rey asks him about his change of outlook? I could be misremembering it.

@KneelB4Bacon

Ай бұрын

I think JJ had MUCH different plans for Luke in "The Force Awakens." The first move literally ends on Rey, handing Luke his lightsaber. Notice how Luke Skywalker is wearing white Jedi Robes in that scene. At this point, we know nothing about Luke, so Rian Johnson could have taken Luke's character anywhere he wanted to. Instead, Rian has Luke do a pointless costume change out of his white outfit into his brown Hobo robes, which he wears for the rest of the movie. Rian's got plans for Luke and we are NOT going to like them. I think Rian Johnson is just a nihilist, who likes to destroy what other people have made. Think about the way he ended "The Last Jedi." At the end of the movie, the Rebels have been reduced to a few dozen people and the Millennium Falcon. Rian even goes out of his way to point out that the Rebels contacted the Republic for help and NO ONE was coming. He also kills off the trilogy's main hero and villain. In the second movie. Where can another writer possible take things from here? If I were deliberately trying to destroy the franchise, "The Last Jedi" is exactly the kind of movie I would write.

@xelldincht4251

Ай бұрын

@@KneelB4Bacon That is true but JJ had to write the Star Wars movie after episode 8 and had to take the Luke from Last Jedi as the bases

Everyone who tries defending the sequel trilogy always act like they're walking on eggshells so they don't defend their rabid fanbase or not to upset Disney. It's pathetic how far they go to justify the bad writing. They would never do this to anything else unless 'current year' tells them it's good.

@nastyfyme

Ай бұрын

On eof my friends told me, if I don't like the sequels, why don't I make my own...

There's such a thing as toxic positivity, and Wins loves doing it

"The Death Star was built to be in Space so of course it can survive the elements" It is literally the opposite. Come on, try and put a Space Ship into a Deep Ocean. Hey, it can survive space so it can of course survive the ocean. A lot of the big space ships in Star Wars are built in Space cause they literally cant even function in atmosphere

@GeordieSwordsman

2 ай бұрын

As Futurama put it: "How many atmospheres of pressure can the ship withstand Professor?" "Well it's a spaceship, so anywhere between zero and one."

@daskampffredchen9242

2 ай бұрын

@@GeordieSwordsman I love that scene. Was exactly what I was thinking of with my comment

@DeusExMachina10001

2 ай бұрын

Lol you don't even need to use a spaceship. Literally just put anything in the ocean for a long period of time without maintenance and it'll fall apart.

@omnipresentl1316

2 ай бұрын

What's hilarious is in the Star Wars universe they use different vehicles or even tamed wildlife to move through the oceans of planets. They don't just pilot a Star Destroyer into a sea mission like a bunch of morons

@the-trustees

2 ай бұрын

If a moon sized object crashes into a moon, or earth sized body, the collision would raise the temperature into hundreds of degrees over boiling and sterilize ALL land-based life, and likely most, or all, sea based life. The "wreck" would have vaporized completely... even if it was made of unobtainium. Jar Jar never does ANY research into his ridiculous story beats and this idea is amongst the MOST stupid in all of film.

Cinema Wins - "I dream of being able to live in a world where people can say it's ok to like TROS." Me - "What a cheap dream."

@coltonwilkie241

2 ай бұрын

He rubs the genie lamp just to wish for that.

@insulttothehumanrace3807

2 ай бұрын

"I hope your dream comes true." "Thank you! I hope everyone recognizes how good The R-" "Your dreams stinks. I was talking to her."

A good analogy for the CinemaWins review is - a man attempting to eat a bowl of fresh diarrhea whilst desperately trying to convince onlookers that he is eating Beef Wellington that has been cooked by the world's best chef.

Does Wins not realize people every day hear things they like or relate to be criticized or lambasted by others? I’m a Republican and a Catholic, trust me, iv heard LOTS of people say LOTS of things about both all my life. Hell, iv even criticized them myself when i believe it warranted.

@David_the_Psalmist

2 ай бұрын

Just tell your critics to pretend Catholicism and conservative politics are what they wanted and... see how they feel?

@jonbaxter2254

2 ай бұрын

How the hell are you a Repub *and* Catholic?

@laneneely1077

2 ай бұрын

That's the thing with being Republican or Democrat. You can sometimes disagree with whatever side you're on just like disagreeing with the opposing side.

@sugartoothYT

2 ай бұрын

Well I for one am glad you are in support of the Republic, Palpatine really dragged them down and I wish you good luck with your addiction. What? What do you mean republican and catholic mean different things?

@ascended1924

2 ай бұрын

Sounds like the best way to go. Idk what's the problem. ​@@David_the_Psalmist

Well...and this is true...Fortnite players knew Palpatine was returning...and that still pisses me off to this day. Like....WHO MADE THAT CALL?!

@gs4011

2 ай бұрын

I still cannot help but cackle at the stupidity of that decision.

@thatcannonguy

2 ай бұрын

@gs4011 I even play the game and I was like....WHAT ARE WE DOING?!

@gs4011

2 ай бұрын

@@thatcannonguy we truly do live in an amazing time.

@MagpieDynamics

2 ай бұрын

Pity the dead who can no longer know such joys.

@mikeoxlong1395

2 ай бұрын

Well, that game is filled with children and manchildren, seems like the target demographic of these movies.

"Imagine this is what you wanted in the film" is the movie equivalent of "pray the gay away".

When our heroes infiltrate the Star Destroyer to rescue Chewbacca, I thought, "Great. Maybe they'll finally make use of Finn's Stormtrooper knowledge and experience to infiltrate the ship, defeat alarms, unlock cells . . ." But nope. Apparently, First Order Security was totally unprepared for Finn, Rey and Po's "Rush Out of the Ship and Kill Everything" plan.

The scene where YMS showed up at the end and called The Emperor baby garbage causing him to explode into lightening was my favourite part of the movie, even sequel haters agree that moment was pure cinema.

@PowerfulSkeleton

2 ай бұрын

Scorcese was in my cinema, and he stood and clapped at that moment

@SammEater

2 ай бұрын

YMS had to do it, The Emperor was uploading his speech in 1040p without subtitles.

I can at east say Last Jedi was a terrible movie disguised as something more meaningful. Rise of Skywalker however, is one of the most unapologetically bad films I’ve ever seen. It feels like a joke film and I’ve never seen something that felt so blatantly thrown together. I genuinely think anyone that appreciates film should watch TROS just to understand how low it set the bar.

@johnneil14

2 ай бұрын

True. TLJ is at least a massive swing and a miss from a deluded director. ROS is just corporate trash. Awful.

@ThumbShovem

2 ай бұрын

@@johnneil14 "watching money burn" has never been more applicable.

I didn’t know Palpatine was coming back until the title crawl and I immediately said WTF and started laughing. It was kind of a good thing because I was able to write off the entire film within the first few seconds and therefore everything else could just be laughed at.

This refusal to hate a Star Wars project, to defend it at all costs, reminds me a little of 1990 when Godfather III came out. No one wanted to really admit that the film was a disappointing denouement to the trilogy...

@Eye_Of_Odin978

2 ай бұрын

Hot take, but I think Godfather II wasn't ecen good. Most people just pretended to like it because they didn't want to be "the one guy" who didn't.

@la_scrittice_vita

Ай бұрын

The first stage of grief is Denial. When you really looked forward to something, there's a kneejerk resistance that you could have been that wrong. I remember hearing a sh*tload of people who saw the midnight 1st showing of The Dark Knight Rises saw it the next day _because they couldn't believe it was so dumb._ They had to have missed something... but most people/most films get over it in 10 minutes, half an hour tops. These bozos cling to it like a religion.

@ViperPilot16

29 күн бұрын

Hot take: People can like things you don't like.

Moral of the Story (according to CinemaWins): ‘Gaslighting is good if you’re enjoying yourself’

CinemaWins is such a tiresome channel. I can respect someone that goes through and tries to find positives in things that are unpopular or are just bad, but you have to actually be able to assess what elements are good. CinemaWins doesn't do that. He literally just points out a shot, or a line, or whatever and says "this is good because ... it just is, okay?"

@cliffrobinson5943

2 ай бұрын

Literally not what he does at all lol😅

@coltonwilkie241

2 ай бұрын

IT'S GOOD!!!!! 😭😭😭

@fantasticmrmonk

2 ай бұрын

⁠@@cliffrobinson5943the dude said to pretend it’s what you wanted to like, you’re a clown.

"No one ever made an Everything Wrong with CinemaWins" I'm glad EFAP is here to change that with the VS series.

You know… the EU had force healing, too. Except from what I’ve read, it was a “healing trance”. Meaning that whoever was doing it was basically a meditation trance, and implying that it took a while. I remember Luke doing it in his X-Wing and having R2 pilot for him.

@Clownacy

2 ай бұрын

Damn, the US never gets any of the good stuff.

@unknownentity8489

24 күн бұрын

​@@Clownacy We did get it. EU=Expanded Universe for Star Wars.

13:51 Know what's not in space? Corrosive water, like ocean water.

CinemaWins: Gaslighting you into gaslighting yourself since 2019

While I don't hate CinemaWins, they are pretty much the personification of the toxic positivity problem in film discourse. People like CinemaWins, and a lot of CW's fans don't really value movies in a traditional sense. They don't like movies, they like the IDEA of liking movies. They think that the only way to enjoy a movie is to just be mindlessly positive towards it. As for negativity, the mere THOUGHT of being negative towards a film is the bane of their existence. They may say that they don't mind negativity, and might even hate some movies themselves, but they prefer their negativity to be tucked away, buried deep inside, never to be revealed, and the few movies they hate are films that are insanely uncontroversial to hate, like Rise of Skywalker or Quantumania. They genuinely can't understand the idea of people like EFAP enjoying making fun of movies, because they genuinely can't understand it. In there mind "Joy=Positive, Anger=Negative, Negative is opposite of positive, Positive= Good, therefore Anger=bad" They can't understand the idea of enjoying the act of tearing apart bad media, so they rationalize it as us being angry manchildren obsessed with negativity, when really, they're spineless manchildren obsessed with positivity. That's why these people love channels like CinemaWins and Chris Stuckmann. Because they validate their fake positive outlook on life, by feeding them mindless, positive slop. Now, I don't think that Stuckmann or Wins are bad or malicious in any way, but their actions are being used by their fans to validate their mindless echochamber, and attack people like us that aren't part of that echochamber. Also, The ArchCast recently made a great response to CinemaWins' Starship Troopers video. Highly reccomend checking it out!

@krnatsu

2 ай бұрын

This perfectly sums up this situation. I've heard the phrase "they don't like X, they like the IDEA of liking X" before. Specifically with Kramer from Living Anachronism criticised the Rings Of Power. The people who blindly enjoy things and say things as basic as "oh yeah it was good", don't actually enjoy media, for the reasons fans do. And it's arguably worse than the people who just genuinely don't like something. Because at least the people who genuinely dislike a movie or another piece of media know where they stand. There's also a difference between enjoying something, despite its flaws and refusing to acknowledge any of the issues in a piece of media, particularly if said media has had a lot of both concise and clear criticism and issues

@nhagan001

2 ай бұрын

“Pretend for a watch through that it’s what you wanted and see how you feel”. I have never felt such a sense of defeat from a statement. The perfect encapsulation of toxic positivity. You can justify anything with that, and I’m not even just talking about bad writing. It gives me goosebumps, imagining a person that would live with this as their guiding light.

@jonbaxter2254

2 ай бұрын

Sounds like Suckman...

@seg162

2 ай бұрын

@@nhagan001 That thought experiment isn't dictating to you how you should feel-- it's proposing a mindset from which negative thoughts can still arise.

@nhagan001

2 ай бұрын

@@seg162 would it though? Negative thoughts could arise, but when you’re outright overriding them into positive thoughts, what would that look like? If I went to translate to movies, it would be a person that “likes everything”, questions nothing, and moves onto to the next thing to watch. It would be paradoxical to me: if “pretend it’s what you wanted and see how you feel” was put into practice, where would you put the thoughts that you had to alter? Would they be a landfill of all your doubts, negative thoughts, and disagreements with the media you consumed?

I personally don't like movies that insult my intelligence, thanks.

@manoz6194

2 ай бұрын

The movie isn't insulting your intelligence, the makers of the movie are.

@mechanicpluto2430

6 күн бұрын

Pretend it doesn't insult your intelligence, and see how you feel.

Stuckmann refuses to say that bad movies are bad. Wins goes one better and insists that bad movies are good. Badly.

@Fedorevsky

2 ай бұрын

I'm sure Stuckman will regress into this way of thinking soon enough, he's on the slippery slope towards this type of thinking already

@SammEater

2 ай бұрын

Stuckmann wants to enter the Hollyweird club, so any criticism towards their circus means burning bridges.

Y'know, videos like this remind me of a quote from a movie I just watched recently: 'The two most hurtful words in the english dictionary is 'good job' "

@blade1hunter100

2 ай бұрын

Good ol Whiplash! Gotta find time to see it again.

Ahh yes. The ultimate way to enjoy movies. Delude yourself into thinking they’re good, regardless of context and content! Repress and reimagine. The way to a healthy mind.

You know what bothers me? Something Nobody Does? That shot with the dagger and the death star. Do you have any idea how BIG that chunk is? The Death Star was about 99 miles in diameter, on the low end. On the low end, the dish that fired the laser was about 8 MILES across. Mount EVEREST is about FOUR MILES above SEA LEVEL. That chunk of Death Star KILLED ALL LFE ON THE PLANET WHEN IT HIT. It hit the water, meaning a THOUSAND FOOT HIGH TIDAL WAVE washed over the world... multiple times in all directions. The sky would STILL be filled with dust. Whatever it is made of is impossible, but whatever it is, it somehow survived the impact with a PLANET. That chunk of Death Star is lying at an angle away from us, so I think it's reasonable to be half the height. So, it is MOUNT EVEREST from the water line to the top. God knows how deep it goes. Furthermore, that chunk is somehow... HOLLOW? meaning that it is basically an ENTIRE CITY WORTH OF SPACE TO EXPLORE just... sitting there. Lord knows how much is BELOW water. That whole chunk is just stupid.

@devinschexnayder7440

2 ай бұрын

Not to mention that both the death stars were incinerated into atoms anyway, so how is there like a quarter of it just chilling on a planet? And how does the dagger line up with the jagged pieces? It is truly unbelievable.

@SammEater

2 ай бұрын

What about scavengers? The Death Star was sitting there for 30+ years and no one thought about taking all the stuff that could be there? In the same continuity that shows Rey scavenging dead Star Destroyers? What a joke.

@devinschexnayder7440

2 ай бұрын

@@SammEater That too!

@mikzpwnz_3199

2 ай бұрын

Why have it be the death star in the first place? None of the characters could even recognise it as the entire thing was built and destroyed before they were even born so it has no real connection to them, making it pointless to be the death star as you already had the star destroyer ruin in TFA, the mini drath star laser in TLJ and the death star destroyers in this movie. They've already extracted what you can do with the death star before this so having it has no appeal. They easily could have changed it to just one of the emperor's palaces/imperial fortresses that's been abandoned as it's so hard to get to and the intial new republic sweep of the place turned nothing special or of real value apart from nothing apeared to be sabotaged or scuttled, just empty as if it was never used. You could even have a tidbit that it was constructed somehere else and then was moved to its current position. Nothing in the plot changes and you dont have all the problems that come making it the death star. Heck the knife makes more sense as it could have been made alongside the place and when sheev was alive. It would then allows you to have it make more sense by having a spot you use the knife on marked with some sort of symbol as it was planned out for this and you could also make it also function as a key to the room that the knife points to. In the current narrative the person/people who made the knife went and scoped out and found out where the maguffin is and didn't go "hey this is a really bad place to keep something like this if we actually need it for some reason and there's only 2 of these, why don't we instead take it with us so we can put it somewhere safer and more accessible like a sith temple? We made the effort to get here to confirm the maguffin is here and not in some Flooded or collapsed section of wreck and we're not going to take it? Just saying, a sith temple that we know the jedi have entere would mean that they think thermy already know whats in it that they wouldn't explore and then discover it and all the darkside presence would mean they dont want to go back to it or keep a guard there, it would be hidden under their noses" The door may have been an issue but they would of had salvaging equipment to cut into it that would be needed to travel the wreck as you dont know if the doors would still be functioning or Hallways be accessible due to them either being collapsed on impact or flooded with the water. You'd then need to cut into the walls and make your own way to the place.

@SammEater

2 ай бұрын

@@mikzpwnz_3199 Because JJ Abrams is a fraud and his Mystery Box was always empty, so the only way to make an ending to that mess of a trilogy was to pander to nostalgia.

I remember when CinemaWins first started. I thought it would be cool if they took terrible movies and sarcastically tried to make them sound like they were good movies, but I think the channel owners legitimately just loves terrible movies. It's not funny or clever. It's just some dork trying to convince people that the terrible movies he loves aren't terrible.

@nathanjora7627

2 ай бұрын

Ironically defending bad movie is okay. Unironically showcasing the very best elements of bad movies is okay. Unironically defending bad movies by pretending they’re good ? … Yeah how about you piss off -_-

@la_scrittice_vita

Ай бұрын

He doesn't love terrible movies, he loves seeing himself as superior to those who don't like things. People like him confuse "positivity" with covering your gas gauge so you won't be reminded you're almost out of gas.

Finn: Rey! I have to tell you something! I did not care for The Godfather.

Saying "My favorite meal is unprocessed human shit because I pretend it's Chicken Risotto," is not an argument that makes sense.

(Also, if Elrond had killed Isildur and taken the ring, then Elrond would have the ring and been unable to throw it in for the same reason - because the ring's power is too much for anyone to bear at that proximity to Sauron's power. Elrond says "the strength of men failed" but when the ring is at Rivendell he doesn't put it in his pocket and start hiking to Mordor because he knows it would ruin him, too.)

CinemaWins exists so Eric Butts can feel better about himself when his wife is in "Spa".

Wow. Cinemawins was the source for "Pretend its a movie you wanted to see." I never got around to seeing this EFAP, but that meme was such a classic for a long while.

"THEY CAN'T F**K UP EVERYTHING!" - Rags, 2024 "Hold my beer." - Madame Web, 2024

@VVEGA2940

2 ай бұрын

How dare you, Missus Webb is the greatest film of the century

What’s so wrong with Palpatine returning? Hello, you get to look at Palpatine!

@Yup712

2 ай бұрын

I can look at Palpatine just fine in better films!

@Albertosn3

2 ай бұрын

It’s more so how he returns As it stands now what is to stop him from returning again?

@SFTaYZa

2 ай бұрын

Hello

@nathanjora7627

2 ай бұрын

Why are you still talking about palpatine, Dune is out !

@ViolentMessiah666

2 ай бұрын

The Lore is deep with this one

In reference to the part where he's talking about the death star and waves vs space i have to bring up a great moment in futurama. I forget the episode, but its early in the running where the planet express ship gets pulled underwater by a mammoth bass or something, and Fry asks how many atmospheric pressures the ship can withstand, and the proffesor promptly says, "well, its a spaceship, so roughly about one." So yeah, building a structure to withstand vacuum and weatherless conditions is incredibly different than building for an unknown environment with atmospheric pressure and weathering conditions. This is by far on of the worst points he made in his video's while trying to use logic.

@joshuafischer684

2 ай бұрын

A vessel built for space travel has to compensate for a positive pressure differential. The space inside the vessel is pressurized, while the surrounding environment is not. A vessel designed for underwater travel needs to deal with the exact opposite.

"The knife generally works." Not even slightly. At that point he lost all credibility. The wreckage of a space station in a massive ocean is not an immovable unchanging mountain. For the knife to work you'd need the exact right spot, the exact right direction, the wreckage to never change significantly, the crust of the planet to remain consistent despite the massive impact it took, the waves and rain to never cause any damage to any of the interior bits and someone had to MAP THIS, when huge portions of it would be melted slag.

@devinschexnayder7440

2 ай бұрын

Indeed. Not to mention there is no way there is any wreckage left when both death stars were completely atomized.

@Eye_Of_Odin978

2 ай бұрын

​@@devinschexnayder7440 Yeah, they both turned to dust on-screen. I didn't see any "chunks" that could have made it relatively intact.

@visitingforgefather5997

2 ай бұрын

​@@Eye_Of_Odin978 Oh f*ck me, that will be the next thing they change when they release another special edition.

What makes people shill for movies like this and billion dollar companies? Do they actually get paid for it? Or do they just say the stupidest thing in hope of getting attention?

@FierceDIO

2 ай бұрын

I think it's because these IPs used to be good, it used to be cool to like them. So some people will do anything they can to be a part of the "cool guys" even though it's been years since it's lost all it's original magic. Like, it used to be cool to like Star Wars, so all the normies showed up wanting to be a part of the community and didn't realize that all the "cool kids" have already left.

@SammEater

2 ай бұрын

They made the brand a part of their personality, meaning any flaws of those projects are a flaw in them as a person. So they must defend it with tooths and nails.

@ulysses5439

2 ай бұрын

godlessness and brainwashing now the highest authority is the government they were molded to obey willingly and unequivocally taught to hold multiple contradicting beliefs at once and repeat them to erode any sense of objectivity the perfect slave, the ideal citizen

29:10 Isildur and Elrond are also (distant) cousins, both descendants of Beren and Luthien. I can't remember it ever coming up, but I suspect kinslaying is a big no-no in Middle-Earth.

I mean there is a difference between being open minded and positive and toxic positively and denying any flaws with it.

@axiss5840

Ай бұрын

So open minded their brain falls out

It is like someone somewhere snapped their fingers and a majority of people just stopped thinking. Now you must like certain things or you are the enemy.

its funny that cinemawins says he went looking for more sincere points. Aside from saying his early videos were insincere, but the points in his new video are very insincere as well. Many of his wins can only be a result of him lying.

The death star is in such good shape that you'd expect that thousands of soldiers and officers would have survived the crash along with countless droids

"Pretend for a watch through that it's what you wanted and see how you feel." In other words: "Lie to yourself" It's actually what people keep doing, but this is the first time it's actually been admitted directly and the only reason for someone to ask this of you is that they can't handle negative opinions of the film. It's very immature and unhealthy.

I'll still never forget not knowing palpatine was back, reading that first line and facepalming

Swotor and the EU handled the Healing issue a lot better than the Sequels.

@RenegadeVile

2 ай бұрын

Yup. Clear rules, limitations and some of those powers belong to the dark side, so they come with a terrible price to pay. Additionally, most of the talented Jedi healers had to focus nearly all their time and dedication to that craft and little else.

@demod2080

2 ай бұрын

@@RenegadeVile Yeah, it's like how the only healers in Atla were a subset of Waterbenders who normally focus all their talents into the craft. Katara is an anomaly, but it's fine because she's the only one in the world with that feature.

I get the same feeling in that ending that I did when trying to discuss Nerflix ATLA with my sister, I said it was bad and that theu missed the point. She said it is not *that* bad the movie was the bad thing, and then recommended her friend watch the original cartoon instead of the Netflix one. It's like she knows it's bad, but, just can't admit it

You do not pressure a ring bearer who is teetering. If Elrond tried to force Isildor to cast the ring in, Isildor would probably put on the ring or attack Elrond. Both bad

When he mentioned Rise of Skywalker I literally thought "maybe a nomadic tribal who only ever saw the one movie could have it as their favourite", because I didn't know what kind of derangement a regular movie watcher would need to have for it to be their favourite. Right as I pondered the kind of deranged individual, Wins chimed in with "That's me!"

Not to mention the Death Star remains are on some random planet, not the forest moon.

My fiancée’s work got us early tickets for RoS. I also traditionally see the Star Wars movies with my dad in theaters. That second viewing was one of the most painful movie experiences I’ve ever had lmao. It’s so long and nonsensical.

29:32 Not even that, if Elrond had killed Isildur and taken the ring he would have been corrupted himself

Pretend it's what you want and see how you feel? Does that apply to s***** assault, maiming, torture and genocide as well? Perception could indeed be reality if only we all stuck to this beautiful mantra.

I don’t need to pretend Bad Teacher is an amazing work of art to enjoy it. This need to justify liking things by having everyone need to find it amazing is so lame.

@bno6156

Ай бұрын

I like Adam sandler movies, I’m not going to pretend they’re good but I like them

I loved Shads breakdown of the stupid lightsaber switchblade. It doesnt make sense unlike the double bladed lightsaber. The lightsaber cross guard sucks because its established that when lightsabers clash theres a magnetic field locking them in place or something. So theres already no point other than “looks cool man”

32:30 Anybody who would think there's the slightest chance that Kathleen Kennedy's self-insert character would turn out to be the secret villain in the making hasn't been paying much attention to the world around them.

I'm calling it, there will be light saber nunchakus in the next opus

I think a funny clip could be from EFAP 91 Ghostbusters 2016 is actually good when they start talking about how the Nick choice awards are the best indicator for quality of a film and see what won during other years. I believe it starts around 2:33:50 and had a good laugh when listening to it yesterday. Thanks for all the great work you do!!

13:51 - incorrect. Space vessels can actually be built rather flimsily compared to vehicles designed to work in an atmosphere/gravity. Isaac Arthur covers this regularly. A submarines are far sturdier that the average NASA vessel and could survive the rigors of space better than the other way around.

This guy is such a slave to Star Wars that he’s willing to lie to himself to enjoy it. It’s literally an abusive relationship where the abused is gaslighting himself

When his defense is literally gaslight yourself...

"Water and space are two very different things." --Galaxy-Brain Mauler

"Every movie is someone's favorite"?! Boy we are gonna need a citation for that claim. It seems contrary to logic, statistics and reason.

@axiss5840

Ай бұрын

CinemaWins apparently unironically loves The Room

Sins is merely dumb, while Wins is also preachy.

This is what a Disney Star Wars fan is now. "Don't question and consume content" RLM.

This whole Cinemawins video is “Don’t think, just consume product, then get excited for next product!”

Force healing was literally THE THING Anakin wanted to know!! If the Jedi had known about It then all of the second and third prequel movies didn't need to happen.

…Does Wins think splash-downed space capsules are not eroded by saltwater? Actually things designed to exist in space are usually protected against radiation and reentry, and have barriers (Whipple shields) to protect from meteor impacts, and that's it-and if it's a space station like a Death Star it won't even be rated for reentry.

Just pretend you liked it and then it's a good movie. What a defense.....and it works on everything

A lot of people diss on the old Legends story Dark Empire yet they’ll defend this movie while dark empire actually had foreshadowing of the clones and Palpatine with Jedi Master Sabbaoth and Thrawn using the clone facility of Weyland(which was a store house for the emperor) so it made sense that the emperor came back and you got the reason why he came back in a clone body and what his goal is. If they had just foreshadowed his return like that it wouldn’t have been as jarring

@Eye_Of_Odin978

2 ай бұрын

This Dark Empire, as cheesy at it was, was merely a comic line that just showed us the end of Luke's journey to become the new Grandmaster of the Jedi. TROS is actual, calculated franchise destruction.

I was one of those who didn’t know good ol’ Palps was back when first watching the movie. I was changed that day and discovered EFAP.

Force Healing existed in the oldef canon, but not like this. It usually required intense meditation to achieve, and a lot of the time the user required special objects to aide them. It aldi took a bit of time to do. A good example is Spider-Man's regenerative abilities. It wasn't super hearling, but just an acceleration on natural processes.

Hey wolf are you ever up for returning to an efap or is it just special occasions like the anniversary?

@Arko777777

2 ай бұрын

He's probably the most comfortable behind the scenes, but I would lie if I said that I wouldn't love to have him back once every maybe every 10 episodes or so, to talk about something he has a passion for.

@EFAPHighlights

2 ай бұрын

I have no intention of making further appearances. I don't think I mesh with the format of the show very well, and think it best to just keep to the sidelines.

@trygveplaustrum4634

2 ай бұрын

@@EFAPHighlightsRegardless, thank you for the quality work you’ve already done and continue to create!

@shotgunmasterQL

2 ай бұрын

I like the idea now that he's still part of EFAP in spirit by handling the clips channel.

@tobeornottobe5611

2 ай бұрын

​@@EFAPHighlightsNever say never, Wolf. But know we love and appreciate your work on these highlights.

What's insane to me is that Book of Boba Fett and Kenobi were *worse* than this film. I didn't know it was possible to get any worse than ROS, but they did it.

Simply put, in a fight between Wins and Sins, Wins is easily the worse critic. Obviously when Sins had the advantage with MoM, he wiped the floor with Wins. But Wins barely squeaked by when he had the advantage with TLW. Hell, Wins said more insanely insulting shit in that bout than ANYTHING Sins said. I get it, Sins had some badly formulated takes. But he didn't shit all over animation as a storytelling medium like Wins did.

You know, between the titles and descriptions for these clips, it's interesting seeing how Wolf's reactions to those moments bleeds through. It was especially funny with the Synthetic Man clip in light of his mention of Wolf, as MauLer's guess was proven 100% right.

"pretend it's what you wanted" this gem always cracks me up :D

"pretend....it's what you wanted" is saying the quiet part out loud

If I had to make an “everything good about” video for TROS, I could do it. There are some things in there I could genuinely compliment like Rey’s reaction to thinking she killed Chewbacca. It would be short and sporadic, but I wouldn’t be pulling arguments out of my ass

I'm going to use the argument "Go for a shit and then try it again and see how you feel." - that is masterful, thank you.

force healing would've been amazing for Episode 3 onwards, since everything happened because Anakin wanted to save Padme from dying

An EFAP piece that's under an hour, but still packed with y'alls signature cutting analysis? "More! MORE!!"

Starting off the review with "pretend this is a good movie and you might like it" is bold. I'll pretend that I'm even going to countenance this idea just for that.

Ray's double saber isnt even original, its basically just a less cool version of the GM Strikers double beam saber.

Let's all try this after the election in Novemeber...

This is one of my favorite EFAPs and one I always go back to.

My dad didn't even watch the trailer before we went to see 9. He actually shouted "shut the fuck up" when the opening crawl started