List of changes: Warlock: - Pact Magic returns with the same progression and rules. - Level 1: Eldritch invocations are now available from level 1. Subclasses have been moved to level 3, and Pact Boons have been made into Eldritch Invocations that can be taken at level 1. Pact Boons have also seen the following improvements: - Pact of the Blade - From the way they talk about it, I think the weapon you summon with Pact of the Blade now uses your Charisma modifier. Glad Hexblade is dead but also oh my god it’s kind of worse but its also really, really cool. - Pact of the Tome - Not really talked about, but if you can modify more cantrips that Eldritch Blast, then getting access to a wider variety of cantrips is a buff. - Pact of the Chain - More special familiars have been added for each flavor of Patron. Skeleton familiars for Undead Warlocks, tiny sphinx for Celestials, etc. - Pact of the Talisman - This is the section about Pact Boons and this is certainly one of them. Level 2 Cunning Magic: Warlocks can regain an unspecified amount of Pact Magic back. I imagine it’ll be like one Spellslot or maybe you can Short Rest in a minute like the Monk could in the UA. It’s decent. - Level 3 Pact Spells: When you choose a subclass at 3rd level, you now automatically gain all the spells in the expanded spells list for your specific patron. These spells do not count against the number of spells you can prepare. Oh my god this gives Warlocks way more spells known, this is huge. - Warlocks gain an ability to speak directly with their Patron. I believe this was a free prep and use of the Contact Other Plane spell with no chance of failure in the most recent UA Warlock. I like it. - Mystic Arcanum returns. - Epic Boon added at 19th level. Archfey: - Now specializes in using an empowered Misty Step to debuff enemies. - Steps of the Fey: You can cast Misty Step a number of times per day (I assume Charisma modifier times per day) without expending a spell slot. Also, when you cast Misty Step (with or without a spell slot), you can add a buff to yourself, such as temp hp, or a debuff onto a nearby enemy, such as disadvantage on attack rolls against creatures other than the Warlock. - At higher levels you gain abilities to punish enemies for attacking you, such as inflicting psychic damage or turning yourself invisible. - 14th Level Bewitching Magic: Whenever you cast an Illusion or Enchantment spell, you can use Misty Step for free. Celestial: - I assume Healing Light returns. Gain d6s equal to Warlock Level + 1 that you can spend as a bonus action to heal yourself or allies. This would be a terrible healer subclass if you had to rely entirely on spell slots to heal. - Celestial Radiance returns with some changes though I didn’t catch any specifics. - Searing Vengeance returns. It’s literally Warlock Self-Res from Destiny 1 for anyone who played that game, however you can now use it on an ally. Fiend: - Spell list has been revisited - Level 3: Dark One’s Blessing has been moved to Level 3. It now also grants temporary hit points for you or an ally reducing a hostile creature to 0 hp within a certain range. - Level 6: Dark One’s Own Luck gains additional uses - Level 10 Fiendish Resilience: Magical weapons no longer bypass resistance on account of magical weapon damage likely no longer existing in the game. - Level 14: Hurl Through Hell returns, though I believe it has been nerfed. Great Old One: - Completely rebuilt like Archfey - Awakened Mind returns, - Psionic Spells: Enchantment and Illusion spells can be cast without verbal or Somantic components. In addition, when you deal damage with a Warlock spell, you can change the damage type to Psychic damage. - Clairvoyant Combatant: Gain bonus in combat to targets affected by your Awakened Mind feature. - Eldritch Hex: Hex gives disadvantage on Saving Throws. Kinda strong, but a little late IMHO. Warlocks also benefit strongly from the new and rebuilt Summon spells, which have been added into their subcalss spell lists.

@gaelofariandel6747

14 күн бұрын

Well the disadvantage on saving throws at mid to high level is still strong just not as early as some would like. A lot easier to waste a BBEG's Legendary Resistances if they have to try twice to not fail their saving throw.

@brannenpfister2579

14 күн бұрын

Did they touch on Radiant Soul for the Celestial warlock? Hoping that feature gets reworked/buffed!

@alexmiller1800

14 күн бұрын

@@gaelofariandel6747 Disadvantage on saving throws is strong and would be great to combo with a powerful Wizard in the party, but personally I would rather spend my concentration and one of my two or three spell slots on something a bit more flashy and impactful than Hex. I guess it all really depends on how late this feature cones in, but when you have 5th level spells, Hex really doesn’t feel worth it anymore for me, even with the buff.

@cyberninjazero5659

14 күн бұрын

Yay, Pact Magic is back, so Palock remains the best/one of the best Multiclasses!

@greenchilistudioz4537

11 күн бұрын

Do warlocks get any Cantrip, other than Eldritch Blast at level 1?

I am convinced that bg3 was a playtest for 2024

@jayson4437

14 күн бұрын

Yeah, I see that now.

@ruick78

14 күн бұрын

Oooh 100% unless they like >_> bg3 did better its our i.p. take it all

@lexistential

14 күн бұрын

@@ruick78 i honestly think this is what happened. Larian found a lot of QOL improvements through standard testing/early access feedback and the game gave WOTC definitive balance examples for those changes across a full system to show that they work

@Merilirem

14 күн бұрын

I mean it was obviously successful at many things so they could take a look a what people liked and what worked. Which is the obvious thing to do.

@JaWick_WitaStick

14 күн бұрын

Yall have a very naive view of the world it's very interesting to see. It's pretty common amongst.. progressives..

I hear all these changes and I can't wait for the Ranger to be "you can use your action to track 1 creature an additional 1 mile"

Oh I can't wait for the New vs old character interaction skits.

I like that the Warlock feels so powerful right from the first level. It plays into the idea that you gained significant power in the pact you’ve made with your patron, that you’re touched by something unimaginably more powerful than you.

@takeshimovies5869

14 күн бұрын

and then you choose your patron on level 3...

@GodwynThePrinceOfDeath

14 күн бұрын

@@takeshimovies5869yeah but most people decided their patron from the start

@MorningDusk7734

14 күн бұрын

@@takeshimovies5869 you choose your patron at level 1, you gain unique features based on your patron starting at level 3. Just like how you don’t “gain” your draconic ancestry at level 3, it just becomes relevant then.

@takeshimovies5869

13 күн бұрын

@@MorningDusk7734 if that how they wrote that, then i don't mind and it feals okay. just they said it like you choose on level 3 (and it touches every class). If they write down as "you choose your path and gain benefeit of it from lvl 3" - then all my complaints are irretivel

As someone who's favorite Class was the 2014 Warlock, I am so happy. I always thought Warlock deserved way more mechanical power than it got. I mean, you're selling your soul (or worse) to an otherworldly being, and basically becoming their Servant in exchange for power. It always felt bad to only have one or two spell slots at early levels, but now, I don't even care. I love the idea of picking up multiple Pact Boons. I am worried that at higher levels however, if every Warlock can just get *all* Pact Boons, then they need to make high-level invocations feel truly powerful.

Haven’t seen the full video yet but making my wish list for changes now: 1. GIVE ME MORE EXCLUSIVE PACT OF CHAIN FAMILIARS (like if my patron is a Djinn I get a mephit as a familiar depending on the specific djinn) Edit: 8:50 YES YES YES I still wish there was one for Djinn, like a mini elemental of some kind, but I’m stoked to get a skeleton familiar and a mini sphinx.

@Merilirem

14 күн бұрын

Honestly happy to see a skeleton show up. I hope they remember this when they give us necromancers. Because necromancers really need a skeleton buddy too.

@barcster2003

14 күн бұрын

The even better news is you can. Combine chain with the other pacts if you want to as well.

@andrewdowns3673

13 күн бұрын

1. Yes, definitely want a unique familar type for my Genie Warlcok; 2. Instead of a Mephit it should be a Gen: small elemental genies who often served as special familiars to Sha'irs (a.k.a. Genie Warlocks) in Zakhara (from the Al-Qadim DnD setting). All Sha’irs needed them to work their magic. As powerful as an individual Sha'ir may be, they were utterly helpless without their loyal Gen. Most Sha'irs would even choose to aid their Gen over a friend or comrade in arms. - essentially a little genie that could live in your Genie Vessel.

Am I the only one that was reminded of the chest bursters from alien when they showed the red slaad tadpole for some reason?

@portsyde3466

14 күн бұрын

I mean, that's mechanically what they are. Chestbursters

@Udontnomi02

14 күн бұрын

@@portsyde3466 yeah that’s right, I forgot about their lore 😅

Pact of chains seems like it got all the love it should have shared with the Beastmaster

Yes! Now I can play a Genie "Hexblade" Warlock! Heck yeah!

For archfey warlock, I like the idea of getting a free misty step after casting an illusion or enchantment spell, but I feel like I will miss fey presence and beguiling defenses. Charm, beguilement and glamour are a big part of fey trickery, and it sounds like the subclass abilities no longer really have that.

@corbanbausch9049

13 күн бұрын

It probably still has those, they just didn’t mention it because they’re only talking about the changes they made.

@matthewmuir8884

13 күн бұрын

@@corbanbausch9049 I hope so. That said, warlocks now pick their patron at level 3, and fey presence was an ability given at level 1, so one would think they would mention something like, "So we moved the abilities you'd normally get from your patron at level 1 to level 3" or something like that as a change.

What is getting more hp at lvl 1? A very good idea. It's ridiculous how few hp you have at lvl 1

For the being able to modify any cantrip, Agonizing blast really only works well on multi hit cantrips.

@zeekeno823

14 күн бұрын

Yeah, still optimal to Eldritch blast, but it means somebody's goolock can mind sliver real good if they wanna be thematic

@Merilirem

14 күн бұрын

Sure but it still works on your other cantrips, just less. If you wanted to cast one of them for reasons like needing a damage type, then you can enjoy yourself.

Parts of me are upset Artificers aren't in the PHB (as they're my fave class and not putting them in the SRD makes people less incentivised to make homebrew ones) but another part of me is glad because they could break them further than they are. The weapon mastery features are something I want to see what Artificers can do with... maybe an item mastery too? I mean isn't anyone a tiny bit curious? Paladin & Artificer team up in a party is a great and scary combo for a DM - they gave me a good challenge and I'm interested in how much more dangerous that combo would be

I agree with the dancing bard thing, especially with your oratrice mecanique d'analyse cardinale dancing.

I feel like the 2014 "exclusive" subclasses are gonna be fine because a ton of the changes are applying to the base of every class. So even if you're playing a 2014 SwashBuckler Rogue (for instance) you'll still have access to weapon mastery and the cunning strikes etc. But I can understand it being confusing how that'll look/work in-practice. Unless they just completely shit the bed on programming that into the character-sheets properly on DnD Beyond? But definitely shouldn't be an issue for in-person groups using physical sheets etc I am sure a few subclasses will "slip between the cracks" and feel bad as time goes on, but I am also sure smart ppl in the community will convert many to mesh better into the 2024 version/rules. Or we get a 2024/2025 equivalent to Tasha's or Xanathar's that just fixes and updates the subclasses left behind. I'm sure ppl won't be too happy about that either way, but it wouldn't surprise me.

I've learned, the crazier the classes get, the crazier the monsters get

Think this will be more difficult to do multi classes

Hurray!

Yeah... In the playtest, lucky was even more powerful than it is currently. They had it scale by proficiency bonus and made it a first level feat.

Looking forward to using Vicious Mockery and blast some scrub ten feet away. Bard Warlock is looking even more fun, just gotta see what Bard looks like

@Bookworm159

14 күн бұрын

Wait, are they going to have the distance extending invocation as well? Can you mock someone to death from 300 feet away?

@Grimpo96

14 күн бұрын

@@Bookworm159 I sure hope so

The more i look at this is insane.

i am at 17 minutes and waht i hear is you can have tons of Feet. what about legs? (and yea i know feat is meant xD)

I've wanted necromancer wizards to have easier access to undead minions of some kind so you can feel like a necromancer sooner for years so warlock getting a skeleton familiar and necromancy not even being in the new phb is wicked upsetting.

@Merilirem

14 күн бұрын

As a Necromancer I am hopeful that this means they are preparing a book for necromancy on its own to flesh it out and will give us access to skeleton familiars on all the necromancer subclasses. It is upsetting that it wasn't included at all and they didn't say anything about it yet. I just feel like if they are giving warlocks necromancer stuff it means they are preparing for a necromancer bundle.

@corbanbausch9049

13 күн бұрын

@@Merilirem this is my thought. They may not have Necromancy, but they also don’t have the Undead Warlock, Grave Cleric, or Oathbreaker Paladin. My thought is that they will include all these in like a separate book for the undead exclusively.

yay

My 44 rules of Dm include if you bring snacks, you must bring snacks enough for the DM and to his taste, and no making fun of his dad jokes and his bad voice acting.

if everthing class is broken than everything class is balanced🤣

@greenchilistudioz4537

11 күн бұрын

Pretty much, hope warlock is not only about Eldritch blast, if we have better cantrip options lol

So they didn't cover the level 20 feature or the mystic arcanums?

To me, 2024 is 5.5. It does not really feel like a 6th edition.

My goodness, they were *cooking* with this. They really went from "Interesting but kinda weak" to "Absolute shenanigans".

@PartTimeEuphoRia

14 күн бұрын

What do you mean weak😭 Warlocks were never weak

@Merilirem

14 күн бұрын

@@PartTimeEuphoRia If you went all in they could feel lackluster mostly because of multiclassing benefits other classes got by taking 1-3 levels of warlock.

@cyberninjazero5659

14 күн бұрын

​@@MeriliremI'd argue the best multiclass for Warlock goes heavy on Warlock. Max out Charisma, start with 2 levels of Paladin then 10 levels of Warlock, Pact of the Blade and Celestial Patron, after that either go all in on Warlock or go back to Paladin. I recommend going back to Paladin because of the features. This makes a Half and Half which is very invested in both

@JohnvanCapel

13 күн бұрын

​@@PartTimeEuphoRia Here's the thing though. Warlocks have *one* thing going for them (Eldritch Blast+Agonizing Blast+Hex), and it's something you can pretty much fully realize the potential of with a 2-level dip (or, given Tasha's Cauldron, a one-level dip and a Feat). Everything else the class does, another class does better. The optimal Warlock builds are either Warlock 1 Sorcerer 19, or Hexblade Warlock 3 Paladin 17 if you want a gish build. Blade Pact dipping seems to have gotten easier if anything, but honestly? I think between the nerfs Paladin has gotten and the more viable Warlocks, especially Archfey with its teleporting around, it's honestly at a point where going full Warlock might be competitive.

I heard throw someone back did the warlock multiclass to a paladin?

I understand being worried about the ability to use your adventure books, but the conversions should be very easy. Skills, DCs, and HP have largely remained unchanged. The new Monster Manual is being rebalanced with the same CR, so if you want to have a goblin ambush with a pit trap... all you need to do is use the new goblin statblock from the new MM, and everything else can remain the exact same. And, if you are finding the average hp for monsters is not enough with the increase in player power, you can always buff it up a bit. I've often found it helps with a fight to use the max value of the monster hp (or near max) instead of the average, to give a proper heft to some fights.

Starts at 35:24

@TheJavapup

14 күн бұрын

Thank you!

56:50

@ruick78

14 күн бұрын

What?

haven't played in a while. When is version 5.5 coming out? Can we buy it already?

So Warlock got the same treatment fighter got: Now its way more busted lol no comparison tho

I really want to see 5e vs new

Can't wait for Dukes reaction to the Artificers changes.

@meikahidenori

13 күн бұрын

Considering there is none so far unfortunately, us Artificer players are probably lucky they haven't messed around and made us worse

Warlock is finally good enough to be worth your soul

I don't like what they are doing with feats giving too many at first level they seem with the changes they are just thinking of power gamers and not GMs, and not thinking of how useless low level monsters will be as opponents, this is poor game design when they only look at players and don't even THINK about the overall picture, i already have to buff up monsters from their original forms in many cases because the monsters in Dnd 5e are typically underwhelming

@takeshimovies5869

14 күн бұрын

they said that reworked monsers as well, so it might be balanced (i hope)

@digifan02

14 күн бұрын

I mean, i would imagine they want to remove the threat of a low level character being one shot and highlight customization right off the bat. Really, early stuff kinda should be a cake walk. But id imagine monsters are getting reworked too. Some monsters use spells too after all, not to mention new status’ theyve mentioned

@Demolition990

14 күн бұрын

They said they have revised the CR rating for monsters in the monster manual, so lets wait to see fully if things will be unbalanced before we start saying this is going to be broken?

@nyanbrox5418

12 күн бұрын

We haven't seen the new monster manual and this all lets them nerf the potency of "variant human" which was the only race played at optimised tables for years Now players will be able to play any species, not just hoomans Also level 1 is actually fairly balanced, I have never had a problem dealing with low level players, and they will be beefing up the higher CR MM monsters Also subclasses are now gained at level 3, this makes level 1 weaker for say, peace cleric Plus, origin feats are weaker than general feats, with a power level of roughly 30 compared to a power level of about 50, according to treantmonks ranking system

@nyanbrox5418

12 күн бұрын

​@Demolition990 yeah I mean, level 1 should be the easiest level for PCs, the hardest should be level 20 right? Not the other way around???

I am hyped for the Great Old One

We still don’t have more spell slots I’m not mad about what we got not at all but I would have loved more spell slots and no other changes as well

@TsujiCross

9 күн бұрын

Well, we do get 1 extra spell slot (at lvls 1-10) per long rest with Magical Cunning now. I too wished for at least one more actual spell slot at level 6, but that’s better than nothing.

I’m actually interested in warlocks wooo

I dont know what they were smoking but a semi-martial potb warlock that can damage slow and shove people with a cantrip, while having 3 rerolls, double hit points, +5 to initiative, immunity to suprise and a heroic inspiration for free (new human) at LEVEL ONE is insane Edit: wait what if you enchance booming blade?!

@nocteexmortis979

12 күн бұрын

Wouldn’t work. That’s at least level 4-5. Humans are apparently getting an extra Feat, but you’ve just described three Feats and two Invocations.

@sharalakid

12 күн бұрын

@@nocteexmortis979 my bad, disregard the cantrip thing, but depending on the invocation progression (cause apparently you're getting more) maybe level 3 or something (and then you get free enchanced teleports which is pretty pog)

@nocteexmortis979

12 күн бұрын

@@sharalakid true, but to be honest, I’d be less afraid of that Warlock than one that decided to go balls to the wall on Pact of the Tome or Blade. THAT bastard plus Archfey would give your DM fits. “I take my Attack action, stab the guy twice, Misty Step away, give him disadvantage on all attack not aimed at me, and then move 30 feet away.” “Cool, I use my mental connection to their Cleric to drop an Agonizing Blasted Mind Sliver. Make your save at disadvantage or take an average of 12 damage and pretty much guarantee you fail you oh-so-important Concentration Check.” Specialised Warlocks are going to be terrors. Generalists Warlocks are going to be nightmares. Heh imagine getting captured, all your stuff’s taken away, and you don’t care because your inquisitive little Sphinx buddy can go get your Pact Weapon back for you.

@sharalakid

12 күн бұрын

@@nocteexmortis979 I see your point, but my posts were more from an excited warlock main's perspective. From a dm's perspective my advice on handling this warlock is... Well... Get good. I'm sorry, but a pure 2024 warlock isn't on the level of builds you could be facing, even in 2014, and while I understand how this can frustrate newer dm's, I personally think that struggling to handle the 2024 warlock is nothing more than a tool to take your first baby steps in the world of handling powerful characters, because like I said, it's cool, it's strong, but it could've been worse.

Can't wait for the god tier game breaking character builds

Padlock gonna be super op

@cyberninjazero5659

14 күн бұрын

The more things change, the more they stay the same

This is just them saying d&d was to hard. We want ones who don't know how to make powerful builds to have it be easy. This just smells like them making things easy. I can see DM banning warlocks or just forcing the old warlock or forcing them only to get hp evy other level up or a lower hit die. This just seems way to OP

The dumbest thing that ever happened to me in dnd was that there was a nat 20 frying pan that got blocked with a nat 20 and the frying pan turned to god

Dungeon Dad did a video on the new sphinx of wonder. It looks awesome.

I like how you can have blade and chain now

No Hexblade? aaawww :(

@barcster2003

14 күн бұрын

Alot of its stuff is pretty much in the blade pact.

@nicolalanti449

14 күн бұрын

@@barcster2003 Not at all actually... Only invocations, all the specific Hexblade characteristics (spell list, hexblade's curse, etc..) are not there... Not a huge issue, after seeing the other patrons' structure, I'll homebrew it, still it surprised and saddened me that they ignored one of the most loved (I think) Patrons...

Why are they keeping the name "D&D5e" if it is nothing like the original "5e" anymore? Is "5f" or "5.5" not an option?

Lessons of the First Ones might have a warlock level 2 prerequisite like in playtest 7

@barcster2003

14 күн бұрын

I think its still pretty good because it gives a number of options. Like tough for example can make your warlock have HP like Barbarian.

As a DM and a player, I’m liking what I’m seeing so far….. even the Paladin (yes, smite was limited but other things were improved). I’m seeing more balance between the classes even though there is still power creep. I’m interested in the updated monster manual and the changes there. That is where the rubber meets the road with encounter building and what the classes can do.

wish they'd kept INTlock and WISlock

Lucky, tough and mobile at level 1 human. Take devil vision and you have a level 1 human with dark vision, a pool of advantage dice and double hp!!! Wotc, you have my soul!!!😂😂😂

As a warlock main i swear that i will break this and it makes me incredibly happy

We need all these videos to get a "holy crap" counter on the side

Warlocks will become the essential multiclass dip just for there first level features.

sounds like the new warlock is even more fun and that's all we can possibly ask for

Maybe it will change once we can start playing them, but it seem to be the same old theme. Martials get a hug and a kiss on the cheek, while the casters esp the warlock get to take the princess to pound town.

I can now finally say im willing to sell my soul to wotc to play as a warlock blaster!!!

When you got the perfect warlock

I'm having a lack of imagination regarding the Archfey patron. An aoe spell would shut it down real fast

@barcster2003

14 күн бұрын

You teleport alot but there's additional effects as well. So an AOE spell wouldn't really stop it.

The warlock is the only character who can start at 3 feats at level one by being human, background and warlock evocation! 👍

I hate the level 3 warlock sub classes. I am able to cast magic thanks to my pact even though i have yet to make a pact?

@Bigryguy95-epic

14 күн бұрын

Gonna be the same way for cleric. You have to accept that it was vital to standardize level 3 subclasses for balancing. It’s up to the player and DM to make it make sense at that point. The pact can exist but maybe the patron isn’t yet bestowing such powers yet. Or the Character has to grow in strength to be able to handle such the greater powers the patron can grant.

@Bigryguy95-epic

14 күн бұрын

Sorcerer too. Especially sorcerer. But that can also be explained away. Plus, you can flavor your mundane spells in such a way that they reflect your future pact/bloodline/diety to make it seem as though that connection is present

@takeshimovies5869

14 күн бұрын

@@Bigryguy95-epic nah, it's just bad gamedesign. what they would like to balance if they are give you fratures? It would make better sense if everyone got subclass on level 1.

@takeshimovies5869

14 күн бұрын

@@Bigryguy95-epic so in fact you already choose on level 1, just need to wait for lvl 3... for what? make contract? no, you made in on level 1. get ability? okay, just don't get abilities on level 1, get them on level 3 as it should be. it's litteraly 0 sence for subclass on level 3 for any class

@Bigryguy95-epic

14 күн бұрын

​@@takeshimovies5869 They also say themselves that they recommend veteran players start at level 3. If you make a completely new player choose a subclass at level 1 then you are adding quite a bit more for them to read about and learn while making their character on top of EVERYTHING ELSE a new player needs to learn when making their character. It's better for a new player if they get to play for 2 levels, learning and better understanding the game, before they choose their subclass. Please just genuinely take a step back and think the whole thing through from other people's perspectives and consider the larger picture. "Just choose the subclass at level 1 even if you don't get ANY abilities until level 3" is the EXACT same as just saying you already have that patron at levels 1 and 2. It's a game of make-believe and imagination, USE IT. The game doesn't have to tell you exactly how to treat and flavor your character, spells, and abilities.

I have never been a fan of warlock flavor since it tends to make you a slave in the eyes of others instead of a student or someone with their own powers. To the point DMs think they can take your powers away like a cleric. However apart from that part I definitely like how it plays. Especially now that it has Skeleton pet. I just wish DND would make a Magus instead of making the Warlock take that role.

These changes sure sound interesting. I am happy for the players but I lost my hope for the GM. The one player with the most influence on a game. Its clear to me, that WotC just tries to hype up the majority of the community to buy their products and totally forgets the actual most important customer and the customer who pays the most money. Its also no wonder, that WotC also is probably starting to implement AI DMs, because who wants to DM a game where the PCs are literal halfgods fighting against Goblins starting from Level 1. The game starts to feel more like Diablo in a way.

The steak they are cooking isn't just well done at this point, it is congradulations

The monsters better be some absolute beasts at this rate because wtf are these classes. Still, spellcasters are miles above martial characters.

@Bookworm159

14 күн бұрын

Unfortunately I don't think that will ever change, simply because of spells. Spells are so versatile and get so powerful at higher levels that they would have to literally redesign every single level of every single martial class to balance them, because every level full spellcasters are progressing with their spells.

@Merilirem

14 күн бұрын

@@Bookworm159 Wouldn't take much of a redesign to feel better. You could just give all martials more feats like how the fighter works. Or something to that effect. Make it so that progressing each level gives a boost that equals spellcasting increasing. Maybe make a list of martial only feats you get at every even level you don't get a feat.

@justinacosta6212

13 күн бұрын

@@Bookworm159 Only real way they can fix it is by going back to 4e's power system and give martials plenty of short/long rest options

No hexblade? Weak

@ericsigler83

14 күн бұрын

hexblades wrapped in pack of the blade now

@gaelofariandel6747

14 күн бұрын

The blade already uses your spell modifier so that's 80% of the reason why people chose Hexblade thrown away.

This new edition is sounding so toxic to GM's, no wonder WotC is making AI DM's for D&DB...

@corbanbausch9049

14 күн бұрын

Why? Because certain classes are more powerful than before? It turns out that others are less powerful, like the Rogue and Paladin . I suspect the average power level per level will stay about the same as in base 5e or _everything_ will be upped a bit in 5.5e. Remember, they said they redid a lot of the monster statblocks and the CR system.

@meikahidenori

13 күн бұрын

​@@corbanbausch9049hope so as it sounds a mess so far. Also Dungeon Dad got a sneak peek at that sphinx familiar but they didn't give him a stat block for it which has me as a DM worried about what they've done if they're NOT going to let anyone see those.

Time to War-lock in. ~_~