Rating a Sisters of Twilight 2 unit Doomstack 10/10
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Alternative title; Ariel takes her daughters on an average day trip to Marienburg
@bificommander7472
3 жыл бұрын
Orion solo stack should have reinforced.
@khairallahdh
3 жыл бұрын
Plot twist. The empire just wanted to greet them with a parade and a fire works display.
@OpiatesAndTits
3 жыл бұрын
Shopping in marine burg let’s go girls!
That's the most nonexistent balance of power I've ever seen.
@thegreatlarry9454
3 жыл бұрын
But it does exist
@JB-xl2jc
3 жыл бұрын
But you HAVE heard of it
@danlacer3415
2 жыл бұрын
nah Malus can go solo :D
Legend saving the ai from itself, never thought I'd see the day
@quint3ssent1a
3 жыл бұрын
When you need to humiliate your opponent so much you actually give him help only to crush him later.
@proxyx3557
3 жыл бұрын
I mean it looked more like the AI abusing Legend by getting back on the artillery and shooting him with guns.
"Programming." "Beep boop." Alright.. _where's the REAL legendoftotalwar?_
@brandonjarvis1987
3 жыл бұрын
this is clearly a copy bought from ikit. the real one is more skaven-ey
@obsidiansiriusblackheart
3 жыл бұрын
Even more of a giveaway "I'm not going to cheese, I'm going to help the AI and save it from itself" *_IMPOSTOR_*
@GrandMasterNutBusterYoda
3 жыл бұрын
@@obsidiansiriusblackheart in this case he... plan-schemed against himself?!
@johnmcmanus2447
3 жыл бұрын
@@GrandMasterNutBusterYoda a new level of skavenhood
@obsidiansiriusblackheart
3 жыл бұрын
@@GrandMasterNutBusterYoda he didn't like the look of that furless one in the glass mirror!
Me at the end of the video: "Hey, you didn't call us fuckers" Legend: "fuckers" Me: "thank you"
"right where I want them" "But sister, we are surrounded?" "More directions for us to shoot in"
Having to fight every battle manually late game would suck ass though.
@dario9640
3 жыл бұрын
But they dont run away
@nikitclaw4770
3 жыл бұрын
But with these armies like malus it is fun to some point
@fukyomammason
3 жыл бұрын
Uganda Warrior Certainly for a little while, but having to fight every tiny battle would just get tiresome.
@quint3ssent1a
3 жыл бұрын
@@nikitclaw4770 it's like playing an isometric RPG instead of strategy
@martinlaver007
3 жыл бұрын
Fighting battles is the point of the game for me.
Enemy forces: It's an easy fight, it's just three women! Arahan: Hahahahaha!
"I think Arahan is secretly a skaven." -Greatest anime plot twists
'Strongest motherfcking doomstack that can autoresolve a god' - now that's a cool expression I have to keep in mind :D
Ariel: "Hey girls, wanna go to Marienburg for some ice cream?" Arahan: "ICE CREAM!" :D Naestra: "Sure, but what about dad?" Ariel: "Nahh, this will be a girls' night out" Orion: (cries in the corner)
@vulkanofnocturne
3 жыл бұрын
Depending on the season Orion might be dead, again.
@JB-xl2jc
3 жыл бұрын
@@vulkanofnocturne “Our family is kind of complicated”
@fullmoontales1749
3 жыл бұрын
And they took the animals along too - they need their claws sharpened. or soemthing
@ctakitimu
Жыл бұрын
We can yell every so often "For Orion!"
legend : "don't send me unfinished doomostacks, look, even this one is missing four units" legend couple days later : "2 unit doomstack"
@sadpee7710
3 жыл бұрын
based
@sadpee7710
3 жыл бұрын
@uNnHkP8mza based on a novel by stephen king
I want THIS doomstack fight against Luoen Leoncoeur
@adamwinter5255
3 жыл бұрын
Ariel’s damage nerf ability would weaken Louen so much it would flip the power balance nicely, would love to try that myself actually...
@Daniel_deez_nutz
3 жыл бұрын
The sisters could just kite him to death with Ariel hides in the woods.
“Bye.................f*ckers.” LOL
@SereglothIV
3 жыл бұрын
I can't tell if he did that on purpose or needed that time to process what he forgot about xD
@Almugavar
3 жыл бұрын
For a second I thought he wasn't gonna say it lol
@khairallahdh
3 жыл бұрын
Legend is such a tsundere.
Ceithin-Har: Summoned only to run down routed enemies? Am I, a legendary forest dragon, a joke to you?
@alagass6466
3 жыл бұрын
It makes me sad that he's just not as chosen, makes me think of their old model on the dragon
@Zzzfunky
3 жыл бұрын
Yes-yes
@Count.Saruman
3 жыл бұрын
High Elf Star Dragons sitting on their mountains of hedge funds: Yes
@quickdraw6893
3 жыл бұрын
@@alagass6466 I think it's actually pretty impressive CA managed to make a hawk more appealing mount choice than a dragon
@TheRealSimeon
3 жыл бұрын
@AGenericFool A joke? No, you are not a joke to him. That being said, you are A Generic Fool in his eyes! 😆 Have a great day!
Did he actually say "it's deeply ingrained into my programing... Beep boop"!? 😂
“It’s ingrained into my programming... beep boop” -LoTW Idk why but I laughed at this little joke for 3 minutes
That change in economy was so jarring to see! I only play on Very Hard and Legendary so I was super lost when I looked up and saw he was making 14k with 9 armies as the freaking WOOD ELVES
LegendofTotalWar: ...appreciate you guys, and I'll see you next time! Me:.... wait a min- LegendofTotalWar: ...Fuckers Me: ah, there it is.
Extremely rare footage of Legend being an advocate of Khorne instead of Tzeentch (or Jeff) :D
12:45 *warp phone noises* Ikit: Yes-yes? Arachan: Master Ikit! They know-know! Ikit: ehhhh...... *nuke launching sound*
@ardynizunia9709
3 жыл бұрын
Why do you put the timestamp 2 seconds AFTER he says he thinks she's a Skaven? That way I click on your timestamp and hear nothing related to the Skaven at all. Kinda ruins the joke.
@FarhadHakimov
3 жыл бұрын
@@ardynizunia9709 NOW it makes sense, thank you.
@DartAleks
3 жыл бұрын
12:45 - correct one.
@falinrichard1394
3 жыл бұрын
Nah, LOTW is skaven agent too. Did you forget his antics with skaven doomstacks? And his nickname - "Cheese Lord"? * door knocking * Oh shi~ * sounds of shattering wood * Witch hunter: Heresy! Skaven do not exist! *BLAM!*
@TheRealSimeon
3 жыл бұрын
@@falinrichard1394 RIP
4:30 Legend confirmed to be a Clan Skryre experiment! It all makes sense now.
Can we say that sisters doomstack is actually ARMY OF TWO?
@karmaascendant3936
3 жыл бұрын
4 technically or 5 if you include their summon. So yes but actually no
@quint3ssent1a
3 жыл бұрын
@@karmaascendant3936 well, it's two units, but sisters are actually one, but there's two of them on that eagle...
@Almugavar
3 жыл бұрын
I'd count the eagle as well, because birbs.
@catsndogs98
3 жыл бұрын
Cue sisters in bulletproof armor and ballistic masks
12:46 I have never in my Sisters of Twilight campaign heard Arahan laugh like that.
Perfect timing, i was looking for a video to eat my sushi to
@flopus7
3 жыл бұрын
Skyrim on sushi when?
Only 90% wardsafe max.? I hear some orcs in the distance
@Kalidoscope1230
3 жыл бұрын
save me from their nightmare. I never want to fight him again.
@serbianeagle8523
3 жыл бұрын
@@Kalidoscope1230 who?
@Kalidoscope1230
3 жыл бұрын
@@serbianeagle8523 Wurrzag and his savage orc gang. I can't remember how much they had, but I'm sure the boyz had +50% physical resistance.
@kliner451
3 жыл бұрын
You can get numbers above 90%, but you can only get the effect of 90% regardless of how high a number you reach.
@philipp117.
3 жыл бұрын
@@kliner451 this one gets it, if i undrestand correctly thats the same with everything in the game, no def chance higher than 90% same with missile res etc, does this mean you cant get a hit chance greater than 90% either?
Thank you for another juicy doomstack vid Leg! Hope everyone's day is going well
sees 10/10 in the title only two units in total, thinks "oh yea its about to be a good one"
really liked the delayed "fukkers".. warmed my heart..
Excellent video Legend. Keep up the good work.
That delayed "fuckers" XD I was just about to comment that he wasn't saying that anymore...and then I got surprised lol
22:48 -- I liked the special guest appearance of Alan Rickman at the end there.
Thanks for that, really made me appreciate the strength of the stack.
Thanks for showing the great difference in income when under a harder difficulty. Was very informative and kinda shocking to see, ngl xD
I would really like to see some sort of series (like this one) trying to find auto-resolve doomstacks
Appreciate the effort to rate these stacks without cheesing, we know it's hard for you! Really does show the stack's strengths and weaknesses though 😁
Legend going all OSHA here, protecting the Empire from their own dangerous units.
I'd love to watch you try this out next time. Especially with the recent update they've had to forests providing relations
Thank you for listening to the critics. I think you played with the exact right mindset here. You made the battle more difficult based on the ai's army to fully test the potential of your army. I'm satisfied.
I almost thought you were not gonna say f word in the end.
@YF365
3 жыл бұрын
he did. He delayed it lol
Honestly, any army is a "doom stack" if it has a powerful enough spellcaster in it.
4:27 the beep boop after the point really made me chuckle
Nice job!
That test is much better, thank you, like)
So sisters are employing skaven tactics now
@quint3ssent1a
3 жыл бұрын
Brave skaven attacks chaos horde alone. Cowardly elves fly around, and there's two of them.
@Mr10lala
3 жыл бұрын
there is no skaven tactics, theres only cheese xd
@Joyexer
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mr10lala Thats the same basicly x)
@EddieTheLightbringer
3 жыл бұрын
Twisted and twilight launch: WOOD ELVES GOT SHAFTED ONLY SKAVEN GOT GOOD STUFF Reality: Everything is Skaven now.
@ggleplussuxx4787
3 жыл бұрын
Uncle Daith = Ikit Claw
That was just as amazing as the green skin one with the krimson killas. Crazy what people come up with!
Ahahah the little feint at the end actually got me good
Very good video!
Played vortex Sisters campaign on very hard, and it was quite easy. OFC i followed your cheese to get Witchwood forest health to max and Ariel on turn 24 by sacking that settlement and fighting Skaven rebellion every turn. Never had any problem with money because I have stockpiled so much on first 30 turns before I even needed second or third army. Later, income dropped massively, but i have managed to keep it at least positive by utilizing upkeep reduction in magical forest areas. But yes, their economy is really shit. You depend on trading with High Elves for majority of income. And great video as always, thanks!
"war is tragedy, sent by orion"
Damn elves. *That's it, I'm gettin me hellstorm rocket*
My favorite thing about the wood elf economy is that you don't have to spend every penny you get upgrading and repairing settlements. So if you get into a situation in legendary where you're fairly lean, like able to support 2 welf settlements with one stack, then you can let the savings accumulate over time. Their settlements can make a lot of money if you focus on growing the economy buildings. But yeah, even with all four forests under my control I was only ever able to have at most 3 decent full stacks before finishing my legendary sisters campaign.
Holy shit, that upkeep increase in insane!
The Empire is the ultimate Worf Effect in these rating doomstack videos
@-pancakes7205
3 жыл бұрын
So when does the Empire go to DS9 to finally show how strong it is?
Nice one that was surprising.
I personally like to play in VH/N. But then I remove the supply lines and public order malus. I like the AI having money cheats and loads of armies, but I don't like being slowed down by debuffs, and i like my melee infantry to be viable.
@IAmebAdger
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I do the same, I go legendary/Normal, except I keep supply lines and public order malus, since I dislike having to manage too many armies because I get too rich too fast, it burns me out.
@TheRewasder97
3 жыл бұрын
@@IAmebAdger I find Legendary annoying regarding saves and not being able to pause in battles, personally, but I've done a few campaigns. I also play with SFO, so the supply lines and money expenses come from other sources
@IAmebAdger
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRewasder97 Oh yeah, SFO, completely different game almost but very fun. I play one SFO campaign for every 2 vanilla campaigns. I like restricting my unit caps army-wide and faction-wide so certain units seem more valuable/awesome to me.
@TheRewasder97
3 жыл бұрын
@@IAmebAdger yeah, I agree. I like how they balance the units too. Going melee focus is not only viable but fun! If you haven't, try a melee focus with Dwarfs, play with Ungrim for the bonuses. And try to move and seize the initiative, I am having a lot of fun with that campaign, surprisingly more than I expected.
@sympunny8636
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRewasder97 tbh i find legendary fun partly because of both the saves and the lack of pause, makes the battles much more intense and exciting when i could lose it all, rather than, "oh guess i'll go back to the quicksave then." Forces me to scout with heroes a lot more, and be more cautious.
Another fun thing is the reforged eagle bow gets 'endless volley' so for 7 turns the sisters can have endless napalm shots
I heavily respect you trying to rate the doomstack, not your cheesing skills. We all know those are ∞/10 :D Really good video, this and warpfire doomstack ones are starting to set some benchmarks for honest, proper testing and rating. Keep up this new content idea, no matter in which way it'll evolve. Cheers!
When I did the sisters campaign I held pretty good diplomacy with most (dark elves were annoying though) so I only ended up needing 3 armies to complete the campaign. Just taking it slow regenerating 1 forest at a time making sure order factions ended up dominant close to your forest, so i didn't even lose a single forest even after leaving them unprotected.
I think the best part of this army is the last point you mentioned: the AI will never run away from it, so you can always be sure to eliminate them without needing perfect campaign map movement
I live for LegendofTotalWar's impersonations! :P
"ohhh bullets" at 6:17 cracked me up
ALSO the army upkeep and treasury doesn't go down when you lower the difficulty down back over the end turn.
STEAM SALE on dlc right now guys and the base game in the U.K
It's a miracle the empire gets the army loss penalty. In my games reikland convederates all over the place and does not get the army loss penalty even if the entire army ran off the battlefield broken and beaten and i am left with just the lord and the hero and maybe 1 extra unit. Maybe the game hates me or something i don't know. Anyway great vid loved the battle
was about to say you didn't say fuckers... and then you just said it in the last second :D
He read the comments and reacted to it. True legend
Regarding the WE economy -- you can't field as many armies as before, but you don't need many armies either. I recently beat a VH long campaign, and I got through most of the game with 4 armies, ending with 5 (which I didn't really need). Between teleporting and ambushing, a few good armies will carry you through the entire game. You might have more trouble if you want to paint the map though.
About upkeep on VH or legendary - Dutrhu (or Argwylon) can handle it because of his faction bonuses
Much more entertaining and informative when u use the army as supposed to . But yea i get ur cheese addiction makes this hard . Great video !
The ending of the vid got me, I thought Legend was just going to end a video without calling us fuckers I was bamboozled
Reminds me of the time I had 2 maxed out Kensai vs 4 armies of full stack Ashigaru
destroy artillery to save enemy army " Manners make cheese"
Legend was in such a good mood after this one he didn't even call us fuckers, what a day
@fatelvis1473
3 жыл бұрын
he did, right at the very end. It was kinda mumbled about 1 second before the end of the video
The only AI creative assembly programmed was how to deal with melee infantry. Ie. Boost stats unfairly
This how Legend plays 90% of his doomstack videos. Yet I watch every single one of them...haha
With Durthu on very hard chamapig, having 5 fully developed settlements I could afford 3 armies. I was very happy when I could go from 2 to 3 armies. On Legendary, I would have to research the -15% upkeep for the same result. And since I could research it with 5 settlements anyway, I guess I could afford 4 armies on very hard and 3 on legendary at that point. Yet to be honest, I felt stronger after the update. I finished the champaign at aroun turn 130, while previously I finished it at aroun turn 140. I also felt I reached the desired troops early, thanks of the lack of limitations. On the other hand, previously I was part of the ordet tide, while after the update, Reickland broke a non-aggresion pact to go to war with me sa I had to wipe him out with the help of Norsca and Greenkins, both of which hate me a lot.
what about tough monsters would it be still the same rating?
Does winning on very hard still count if you're clan skryre ?
What are some of the strongest auto resolve armies which could autoresolve God?
@SereglothIV
3 жыл бұрын
Does a stegadon doomstack that has 95% chance in autoresolve against 4 armies of chaos count? If not, maybe we'll get to fight some actual gods in WH3 and find out.
@khairallahdh
3 жыл бұрын
The best example of such an army would probably be the pompous skink priest doom stack that Legend showed before that could probably fight an entire legendary chaos invasion single handed.
@lurksnitchtongue8986
3 жыл бұрын
Find a priest you degenerate furry. Honestly think that's the strongest AR army. Right behind you are a disappointment to your entire family.
Seems very strong, especially against infantry. Would it struggle against single entity stacks though, also would be a chore after fighting a few battles like this maybe.
12:45 - maniacal laughter.
That delayed "FUCKERS" made my day!
12:45 holy shit that cackle surprised me O_O
@Kasigil0
3 жыл бұрын
best girl
Happy valentines people🎉🎉💕
Sisters plus Ariel, best campaign I've ever done
love the attitude of actually trying the units instead of relying of stupid ai :)
22:44 there is something missing 22:46 There we go!
I wonder, is this doomstack better with the sisters on the drake and the eagle as extra? It may eat more bullets, sure, but the Wardsave is so high that the extra hp of the drake should make it fine. The drake actually gets better if wounded after all, and since you are keeping all enemies on the Sisters themselves the extra that the eagle gives is wasted. Also, since you can make a unit invis with the bow, you can eat a LOT less ammo than a normal drake
But what about large units? Against single entities like Dread Saurians or Constructs?
Ward save covers all resistances btw, Physical, Magic, missle, and fire.
what about adding some branchwraith guards for ariel, and maybe 16 Treemen? ^^
This strat is exactly what I do with sword of Khaine Fey Enchantress. I did not know that ward save and other resistances stack additively like that. I wonder if I can get her to 90% physical without the sword... The unicorn alone pretty much gets her there for magical.
Legend plz do a full campaign using this army :)
From what i see there is 75 ward save 35 physical res and 65 magic res thus the lowest value is 110 for physical res meaning he got 20 ward save more than he needed. This means he could have some other item providing something instead of it.
Allright i wanna see an autoresolve god army now 😩
idk how feasible this would be, but you should make a doomstack vs doomstack tourney
I think Doomstacks can be judged by three categories - Combat Power: How many scenarios that you are likely to encounter in the game can the dooomstack overcome and how much damage would it take in the process on average. It might not be possible for a single stack to prevail in every single scenario but if its overall results are good, then it warrants a high score. Strategic Power: Here you account for things such as upkeep, how easy it is to assemble said doomstack, how easy it is to replenish if it takes losses (having to drag yourself all the way back and spend several turns recruiting can be considered a negative) and other minor bonuses such as appearing weak to the AI. Ease of Use: Legend once said that he qualifies something as a doomstack where even an idiot can take it and win. Some stacks need a lot more skill to pilot well. The weapons team doomstack needs constant target prioritization and to know where and when to call down clan rats, wheres as norsca mammoth spam is pretty much box and left click.
@Debilinside
3 жыл бұрын
This would be good. He is really not consistent with his ratings, so these videos are more of an entertainment thing than educational. Traitfarming is not counted as negative, but Tier V units having high upkeep is? :D When you have tier 5 spam armies your economy should be rolling anyway. I dont play legendary, but even then upkeep should be much less of a factor... Or he should separate early game and late game stacks. Personally I find traitfarm stacks much less valuable than expensive stacks.
Would you say it's worth it in this case to put the sisters on Ceithin Har instead of Gwendalor ?
@IAmebAdger
3 жыл бұрын
Nah, Ceithin Har is a big target and slow, Gwindalor is small, fast and nimble. If Ceithin Har is a summonable you don't care much about him being shot to pieces that much and he's still just as useful with dragon breaths and area of effect attacks.
They should really change income reduction to be multiplicative. Also, the additional 10% wouldn't be another -5,000, since it would just go from 120% increased upkeep to 130%.