Please CA gives gyro mount to engineers. We really want to see a fortunate son doomstack.

@deno202

3 жыл бұрын

That would be awesome :D

@Alranz07

3 жыл бұрын

with SFO dwarf engies do get em!

@AximandTheCursed

3 жыл бұрын

"Some Dwarves are born, made to bear the grudge... ohh wear gromril too!"

@oliwer23pl95

3 жыл бұрын

@@AximandTheCursed "it ain't me , it ain't me i ain't no fortunate beardling"

@Ghillie_Kragar

3 жыл бұрын

@@Alranz07 too bad i hate SFO, Gyro mount sound cool!

Malus Darkblade: "Allow me to introduce myself." Quarrelers: "No."

@MrEddie4679

3 жыл бұрын

Corner camping Quarrelers be like "You cant touch me here, This is my no no square"

@jacobburch7555

3 жыл бұрын

Proceeds to rain down arrows.

@mihowink5099

3 жыл бұрын

Legend: "Let's just ignore Malus until the end of the battle" Quarrelers: "No"

@FanEAW

2 жыл бұрын

*THE GREAT BOOK OF GRUDGES APPROVES OF THIS COMMENT*

"Proper dwarven position, aka sitting in the corner" Lmao that got a laugh out of me, it's so true

@zakbook15

3 жыл бұрын

beat me to it

@charlesxii2660

3 жыл бұрын

Add entrenchment and it'd be Men of War complete with an artillery barrage

@KazeKoichi

3 жыл бұрын

"But Legend, what do I do if I don't want to corner camp?" "It's super easy, you just lose."

@Avelium

3 жыл бұрын

@@KazeKoichi Tells a lot about how lame is TW game design and it's balance.

@thestormtrooperwhocanaim496

2 жыл бұрын

@@Avelium not every race by lore has mounts or even hammer and anvils. Dwarfs are stubborn and hold the line. And love their tech. Hate mounts like horses or goats. This isn't LOTR. So we are gonna have a corner camp race. Just use arty and magic with range armor rip. ez pz

"Battle result: Heroic Victory" Strange.

@ALPH4RIUS

3 жыл бұрын

i guess the new auto resolve just recognizes now when legend is playing. „ah shit here we go again“

@toggle3927

3 жыл бұрын

Thorek Can get Heroic as an uncommon autoresolve because of how strong his bonuses are. Aka he's busted af.

@cathulionetharn5139

3 жыл бұрын

100 shitty, scummy, enfiuriating, grimnir-cursed elgi for 1 dawi, sounds like these dawi where quite the heroes

@sisyr5615

3 жыл бұрын

gotten that myself as well a few times, bit odd

@Osvath97

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah... The concept of a Heroic Victory seems almost antithetical to the concept of an auto-resolve...

An engineer? In Thorek's army? Mark this day in the book!

@BuhamutZeo

3 жыл бұрын

Look man, he's just there to carry more crossbow bolts, leave him alone.

@baudsp

3 жыл бұрын

that one is a proper traditionalist engineer, knows only crossbows and grudge thrower, none of that newfangled exploding powder thingy the beardlings have cocked up

@TSE_WOODY

3 жыл бұрын

@@baudsp he’s the man who tapes the goblins to the gob lobber

@ingold1470

3 жыл бұрын

@@baudsp He's that guy from the Slingshot channel, bringing the good old crossbow to its full potential.

@DerRusher

2 жыл бұрын

@@ingold1470 look Thorek: here are some „basic“ crossbows, let me show you its features - HA HA HA HA

extra points for fun factor. Something that often lacks with other doomstacks

@krayos13

3 жыл бұрын

Funnly enough, I think ranged spam is the most bpring strategy in the game, I suppose different strokes for different folks.

@muscularclassrepresentativ5663

3 жыл бұрын

Corner camping?

@saltedllama2759

3 жыл бұрын

@@krayos13 I am about winning, so doing whatever I can to play without letting my opponent play is always fun for me. I'm a nerd about a lot of things in my life, but I don't need a balanced/movie-moment army that wastes resources and manpower suffering constant Pyrrhic victories.

@riolidansnarfledang7833

3 жыл бұрын

@@saltedllama2759 you sound fun to play with

Funny how legend didn't include the examples to the 10/10 doom stack armies, the dreaded troll doom stack.

@sablesword6239

3 жыл бұрын

Or the Knights of Tor Gaval or Loremaster doomstacks.

@TitanImperatus

3 жыл бұрын

@@sablesword6239 He has done a video on the Knights of Tor Gaval stack

@sablesword6239

3 жыл бұрын

@@TitanImperatus I know, I was the one who sent in that army. I was simply commenting that he never mentions it or my Loremaster stack when he is listing examples of 10/10 doomstacks.

@letsplaysvonaja1714

3 жыл бұрын

I think there was a troll stack disaster battle way before he started the doomstack series

@filiciaous

3 жыл бұрын

That troll doom stack is the only doom stack I remember

Breaking news, Rhunrikki destroys several druchii armies with a pile of crossbows and sheer disgust of technology, more at 8 “Yeah he’s a boomer, but he actually does things other than complain” - Urist, Ironbreaker

@pathfinderjellyfish3387

3 жыл бұрын

Win of the day, this comment is

@vinito19

3 жыл бұрын

@@ForbiddenFollyFollower gotrek is a doomer

@yof106

3 жыл бұрын

@@vinito19 then what does that make Grombrindal?

@graljoffrewithoutanarmy860

3 жыл бұрын

@@yof106 The babiest of baby boomers.

@GGGmod1

3 жыл бұрын

"Urist" XD

“Another 10 out of 10 would be Isabella with 19…” Me - “BATS, 19 BATS”

Quarreller Stack: Would struggle to take 4 full enemy stacks. Loses points

@FireTalon24

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair, that is the point of a 10/10 doomstack, one that can fight4 armies and come out on top with either no hero losses or minimal losses eg; trolls that eat a nuke.

@christopher6337

3 жыл бұрын

>struggle with 4 stacks >in ambush

Legend, about that multiple engineer ability thing. Yes you can, because the last skill says "number of uses+1" for the ability. So if you have 2 engineers, you can use it 3 times; if you have 3 then you can use it 4 times etc.

@deno202

3 жыл бұрын

Did you test it? Im getting tonight second engi in the army, so will be cool if that works.

@deno202

3 жыл бұрын

@jonathan erinder haha nice

It's kinda funny seeing the Shades take so much damage so quickly that they don't even have an opportunity to break before the last one dies.

The Runesmith also provides Wardbreaker, which neuters an enemy army's Missile Resistance by 10%. If anything, drop the thanes, get another engie and runesmith. Should be a good combo.

@danisrusski6297

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah and ditch the ironbreakers. Get more engies!

Legend: "Alright, as long as we don't engage directly with Malus, we can get him off the battlefield with the army loss." Quarrelers: *Remove Malus from the battlefield* Legend: "Not what I meant, but appreciated."

One of the best parts about this army: Its cheap. The cheapest doomstack the dwarfs can field, by far. Compared to hammerers its pretty funny how much better this stack is and how much more efficient it is as well.

Thorek's campaign is the only one i managed to actually bother finishing, i was genuinly laughing at just how insane his Quarreler's we're in the final battle, they make Thunderer's look like a joke. Thorek ain't kidding when he says old ways are best.

@Cynndora

Жыл бұрын

@@marza339 15% Reload time reduction, 50% armor piercing damage, and then his campaign offers 15% ammo/range/missile str.

"i cant give it 10/10, but imma give this doomstack a 9" -legendiftotalwar in every doomstack video ever

The shades and dark shards that usually annihilate enemies with volleys are getting annahilated by the same

Honestly, the thing I'm loving most is how people are experimenting with the Dwarfs again, trying to figure out which works best/is more fun. The fact that we even considered for a moment a Thorgrim Hammerer doomstack makes me happy, even if it isn't strictly practical.

I think this deserves some bonus for being built mostly on tier 2 units and not even really needing much hero cap to produce.

Thorek on his way to end the Second War of the Beard on seemingly every playthrough, what an absolute chad saving the Dawi like this

I’ve always said, gyrocopter for engineers and a shield bears “mount” for dwarf lords, like they had on the tabletop!

For the Zhufbar 42-Pounder ability, each additional Engineer with 2 levels in the skill gives you an additional charge.

This is how I prefer to play Dawi, though now I always bring along a unit of Mournfang Cavalry to mop up the enemy.

Always seems to be dark elves on the receiving end of these doomstacks and I'm fine with that. Death to the druchii :P

@valdemarramirez6015

3 жыл бұрын

Any Elves would be fine to be honest. All pointy ear things must die-die.

@MrEddie4679

3 жыл бұрын

@@valdemarramirez6015 Oi git, All dem squishy races deserves a krumpin!

@KazeKoichi

3 жыл бұрын

Kill everything without a beard!

How do we settle the grudge with the elgi? Google: Just forgive them, these are difficult times and you need all the allies you can get Bing:

It would be nice to see some doomstacks vs doomstacks. Unbalanced fights but could be done as tournament ladder

@Garvielok

3 жыл бұрын

Add a losers bracket to balance it out a bit.

@awellner3285

3 жыл бұрын

its hard to do in multiplayer as a lot of doom stacks rely on campaign only buffs from the faction or legendary lords.

@exantiuse497

3 жыл бұрын

@Awellner There's maybe a mod that lets you give those stats to multiplayer games? It would be cheating but if you play against a friend who agrees with it then you shouldn't get banned

@Boxfortress

3 жыл бұрын

@@exantiuse497 there isn't a mod and I doubt there someone will make one. Your best bet is for you and a buddy to play a head to head campain but that easily takes about 100+ turns and a lot of hours for both of you to get that point.

@BigBoneBusiness

3 жыл бұрын

@@exantiuse497 Thankfully, you can only enter multiplayer games with people who have the exact same mods installed in the same load order.

Legend’s dog at 3:00 “THAT’S A GRUDGIN’!!!!”

"Nooooooo, you can't just kill Malus Darkblade in 5 seconds!!!!!" Quarrelers go pew pew.

@legendoftotalwar - the runesmith is also providing sharpen weapons - which applies to melee and ranged weapon damagae.

@englishvoodoo676

3 жыл бұрын

True but engie gives that to the ranged + ammo so still not worth it as you already have rune magic on thorek, no need for another runesmith impo.

@sumgui

3 жыл бұрын

@@englishvoodoo676 If you're talking about strictly maximiing power - sure, but a single runesmith can provide 3 buffs to the army, and is only tier 3 - instead of the tier 5 of additional engineer(s).

@arazel_chainfire

3 жыл бұрын

@@sumgui Do note that the Dwarfs got re-worked with the latest patch, so you actually unlock engineers at tier 3, get +1 at tier 4, and get +2 at tier 5 (same as runesmiths)

@verdantagent

3 жыл бұрын

@@arazel_chainfire the tier 3 runesmith building gives +1 capacity. At least with Thorek, dunno if the building is different for the other dawi lords.

@arazel_chainfire

3 жыл бұрын

@@verdantagent Playing as Belegar, the tier 3 building unlocks them, tier 4 adds +1, and tier 5 adds +2

a gyrocopter for the engineers would been a great idea - yes i hope they add this feature

I agree with the rating. This doom stack would have a tough time against an enemy that brings a lot of artillery such as the Empire using hellstorm batteries and steam tanks

Elves have the best archers in the game. Thorik: hold my quarreller.

@user-vn1wz3tr1h

3 жыл бұрын

@@mcmarkmarkson7115 They have the best archers, some monsters, B-tier infantry and cav, and also the best faction for magic in the game

@DerRusher

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-vn1wz3tr1h but they dont have any crossbows…..

@fukyomammason

2 жыл бұрын

Crossbowmen aren’t archers. They’re… crossbowmen. Or arbalestier or arbalist if you want to be extra pedantic.

That moment when your Quarrellers have as much projectile damage as High Elf Archers have range... _Deliver a reckoning_ °^°

Thorek got me craving the old times

I accidentally had this doomstack on Thorek when I just recruited Quarralers in a hurry for a fight. During the battle when the enemy lord died in two seconds I realised that it's a really powerful doomstack. I had two engineers in it to replenish ammo though. This is like the ultimate afk yourself to a victory stack which is sometimes nice to have.

This doomstack video was a 10 out of 10. Usually I don't care to much for doomstack videos except the exceptional ones.

That damage output was incredible, did you see how much ammunition they had left??

@BeDrunkkk

3 жыл бұрын

you can even refill ammo with a certain spell :D

The description of the Zhufbar 42 pounder is still one of my favourites in the entire warhammer series. Pure gold

Several empire stacks with cavalry and Helstorm rockets might be a real issue for this dwarven army

@BeDrunkkk

3 жыл бұрын

Cavalary is actually fine, just place a decent amount of Ironbreakers in front of them. Theyre done easly. But artillery is a real danger, since you need to approach but thats why Dawi got fast flying war machines + new added Ogre cavalry. Probably cant beat them right now with these buffs, except for Hexwraiths with their 75% physical resistance (even more with fitting leaders)

@zerg0s

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, in Thorek’s army, Grudge Throwers both outrange Hellstorm Batteries AND are always target seeking. Which makes them really good against rival artillery.

"You don't get your casualties back after battles" ...Hawk riders stacks looking confused at 78% replenishment after a fight

I thought the 50% increased AP on Quareller missiles was such a cool buff. Then I saw it took it from 5 to 10 AP damage and realized how little that meant lol.

@ancosmit8466

3 жыл бұрын

Still 400 extra damage if all arrows in a volley hit their armored target!

@NiccoloHamlin

3 жыл бұрын

what 5 to 10 is 100%

@Assdafflabaff

3 жыл бұрын

It all adds up especially when you have several units of Quarrelers. 5 extra ap per missile is actually pretty huge when you're talking hundreds and even thousands of missiles.

@benjaminmartin6294

3 жыл бұрын

@@NiccoloHamlin yes and they're both still low values for ap damage

@pepparmostheelder

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, thats pretty fucking good still xD

Alright lads, when's someone gonna send in the perfected Thorek Ironbrow grudge thrower doomstack? Am I just gonna have to do it myself?

Gyrocopter engineer is a brilliant idea! CA please.

@gavburger

3 жыл бұрын

And give the Skaven warlock engineer a doom flayer mount, Skaven are so underpowered.

@daanvanrijn4117

3 жыл бұрын

@@gavburger Skaven are overpowered af wth are you talking about? Weapon team doomstack with plague priests as front line beats everything the ai can throw at you...

@gavburger

3 жыл бұрын

@@daanvanrijn4117 I guess your browser doesn't support the sarcasm font...

@jamiefenwick8359

3 жыл бұрын

@@gavburger Nah warlock engineers should clearly get star dragons only way to make them viable.

@daanvanrijn4117

3 жыл бұрын

@@gavburger Seems about right.

Ancient dragon lived for thousands of years, woken from his slumber AND ITS GONE

@perrymeril

3 жыл бұрын

In less than 20 seconds

Every Engineer has the ability to add 2 uses to the wind ability. Also the Runesmith sharpen weapon buff increases missile damage.

"take your time, make it nice a neat" *fucks it up* XD

By the codex engineers were pretty much to add to seige units adding master artillery specialist, usually letting you reroll scatter dice or reroll dmg. They should get a seige engine option as a mount.

Literally every quarrarel is actually carrying a bolt thrower, that damage is so hot!

the runesmith is also providing 15% extra missile damage with the embedding ability

Could you make a list of the best/most efficient (9/10 and 10/10 ratings) doom stacks for each faction based on the newest update?

It may be beneficial to leave the runesmith, as he does provide 10% extra missile damage and 10% missile resistance. The one who is out of place is probably the regular thane - he just holds the line, which can be done by the engineer/runesmith easily enough.

@maxpower3990

3 жыл бұрын

Runesmiths don't provide extra missile damage or middle resistance. Their Ward Breaker ability lowers enemy magic and missile resistance by 10% which stacks for each Runesmiths and Runelord. You're right about the Thane, use them as assassin's, scouts or a Thane stack.

@DerRusher

2 жыл бұрын

@@maxpower3990 but the „sharpen weapons“ of the runesmith does also buff missile damage, no?

Imagine if those were Bugman's rangers that can regen...

@Sergeilol20

3 жыл бұрын

Thorek doesn't buff those sadly

Been using a similar stack with Belegar and Rangers (his skill tree now does Rangers and Miners boosts) and its been rather good. No super runes but do have Ancestor Spirits.

Loved this stack, I used more grudge throwers in place of the second thane and iron breakers. Still not invincible but very fun to use.

I need someone to make a cannon doomstack. Basically this one but with a lot more BOOM

I've been using an earlier game version of this army and can attest it performs very well even against rite of primeval glory armies

I think the runesmith was in there for his sharpen weapons army buff

I believe that master eng. should make artillery in battle, stationary one...

Oh they are coming again… haha you’re in danger

I prefer to go with 3 grudgethrowers with rune of burning in Thoreks army. They get so many kills and a unit of quarrellers can protect the flanks instead of iron breakers.

The good old corner sammich.

One of few games you can have over 100 hours in and still be a noob. Always learning something new

I'm curious as to the reasoning for giving the Grudge Throwers a Master Rune of Disguise? My guess is primarily so that nothing will try to target it, especially with spells, so that you can always have its long range if necessary. Otherwise I'd pop on a rune of seeking; I love that thing on Grudge Throwers.

Cool looking battle abilities

Engineers as an army lord and gyrocopter mounts for engineers that is what I would like.

Maybe we should make a split between generic doom stack and special LL doom stack, because yeah this doom stack or Isabellas Vampire stack is pretty strong, but you can only have it once. So it would need a lower rating imo or handle it as a different case (LL doom stack). Unless we figure out how to clone LL.

@docholliday7408

3 жыл бұрын

You don't have to have Isabella to make a vampire stack strong. 19 vampire heroes leveled up properly will destroy anything, regardless of the lord. And if they have the Dread Incarnate trait as well, it just gets stupid.

1 grudge has been struck from The Book of Grudges, 20 new has been added for each dead Dawi.

That master engineer should have the prospectors mail for snipe. That way he can hit the siege from behind enemy lines. He should also have the prospectors scope for when he's embedded in the army.

Engineer getting a gyrocopter makes a lot of sense actually, this would be cool :)

I think it would be fun if there was a way to make two doom stacks fight each other

No views? That goes in the book!

@JohnWarhammer69

3 жыл бұрын

Umgak program! Too afraid to give proper dwarf tactics a good viewing!

@SegaMegaLoh

3 жыл бұрын

GrudgeTube

@R3GARnator

3 жыл бұрын

That's just a youtube error.

So is this the reason why dawis hate "new technology"?

yes, idk if there is a limit but i currently have 6 uses in my one army

On a Dawi kick, and I think the engineer is the most underutilized unit. The gyrocopter mount would be amazing, but there needs ro be a lord & legendary lord engineers.

A two for one doomstack video?! Ancestors be praised! Also I wonder how this would perform with Great Weapon Quarrellers? Or maybe 1/2 & 1/2. As long as your ammo holds out, shields are unquestionably better, but once you're in melee the GW may provide more benefit.

@DerRusher

2 жыл бұрын

nah, they are just more expensive. quarrelers are „decent in melee“ - but not on legendary difficulty. if your front quarrelers end up in melee, its better they hold the line longer so you can shoot the enemies with your back line. and regular quarrelers have better defense. the tiny bit of ap damage & attack rating is not worth losing the shields & defense stats

I'd swap those iron breakers for runesmiths. That way you can get all the embedded buffs runesmiths provide. And having single, small entities swarmed is much better friendly fire-wise than multiple entities. At the very least one armour and one armour pen, in case the ammo runs out.

Like for 'another go' Enjoyed it, awesome stuff.

CA does watch the mod community, the biggest being SFO where the Engineers can get gyrocopter mounts :D

This is old dawi tech combines new dawi tech, like "Sir we built a new crossbow, but we are not sure you like it beacuse it is operated by cogs and steam and fires more like a machinegun "

Dwarves really need mountaingoat mounts for their thane heroes, or atleast gyrocopters like you said for master engineers.

malus darkblade a dark elf posessed by a powerfull demon which holds a great power and he was turned into a fucking purcupine

Now THAT is dwarfs as they should be.

I used to run quarrellers as frontline infantry, with backline of armor-piercing missiles such as thunderers. Looks like Thorek's boost to armor-piercing missile damage makes that completely unnecessary.

@EagleScoutmano

3 жыл бұрын

You have put your ranged units in the wrong order....LOS units with high AP up front, supported by quarrelers behind them is the correct way to maximize effective firepower.

Could you maybe use the carnosaur that thorek gets to waste missle fire and harass? It’s fast, doesn’t rampage and is unbreakable and also has decent missile resistance, or maybe some mournfang cav

Hi, can someone please explain to me how the Quarrellers have 184 range? Engineers +range skill has been removed so i dont get it. I dont see any skills on Thorek that increase range either. Thank you

@danielpikkaraine156

2 жыл бұрын

It's morgrims gears of war artifact

12:24 If LockPickingLawyer taught me anything is that you better do it twice to make sure it wasn't a fluke (it's never a fluke).

You can still stack engineer damage buff and speed buff. If you have 4-5 engineers you get upwards of 205 missile damage and 50 speed on ur quarrelers

@Ironwind1972

3 жыл бұрын

I always thought the speed buff was for movement only

@malokhash5352

3 жыл бұрын

​@@Ironwind1972 You get the buff from the sapper thing on master enginners

We still might get a Gyrocopter mount or even an entire army build (see age of sigmar) if they make a DLC with Grimm Burloksson.

A skaven weapons team doomstack would completely annihlate this army

@DerRusher

2 жыл бұрын

good that the AI doesnt recruit too many weapons teams tho :D

Not sure about rating, but I would say that its definitely the strongest Dawi doomstack.

@DerRusher

2 жыл бұрын

mmhhh did you see the runesmith stack yet? :D definitly 10x better than this one. even 4 armies at once, no problem. the quarrelers would be better against large monsters tho

i think the reason why the runesmith is in the army is cause of wardbreaker which reduces magic and missle res by 10% not sure if thorek gets this trait in his skill tree

A proper dwarfen position... 😂

You can get an engineer up to 74 speed with the right equipment and start attribute

I used pretty much the same army in my Thorek's campaign but I like 3 engineers in my army rather additional archers

Mess with Dwarf Crossbows and you get a bolt between your eyes. Yes, even if you are a Dragon. As proven. Thoroughly.

what kind of IA-built armies would beat this one? Other than in an ambush or against 4 enemy stacks?

This is where goblins would be harder to kill than elves as their shields and their numbers eat all of your ammo.

Who needs guns when you got crossbows like this!

I think it's so weird that one hero tanks way better than a unit of ironbreakers. they are supposed to be the immovable wall but if you really need to hold the line you better get a thane for safety