Ranking the 2024 F1 teams after pre-season testing
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It’s our favourite time of year, when we emerge from the settling dust of pre-season testing to take a stab at ranking the 10 Formula 1 teams ahead of the new campaign.
This is based on a number of factors including but not limited to what we saw trackside, how the long run data looked, and where the teams themselves think they are shaking out.
We’ve talked to loads of drivers and senior figures, crunched the numbers and yes, made some educated guesses, to come up with this ranking.
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0:00 Intro
0:27 Number 10
1:34 Number 9
2:46 Number 8
3:40 Number 7
4:34 Number 6
5:34 Number 5
6:35 Number 4
7:38 Number 3
8:42 Number 2
9:34 Number 1
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P9 in WCC would be brutal for Alpine. Heads will be rolling (again) and Szafnauer will be shouting "I told you so!".
@bobbyweche3918
4 ай бұрын
Just like he said: “You can’t impregnate 9 women to expect a baby in one month!”
@gdoumit
3 ай бұрын
Otmar was never the problem. He was just their scapegoat.
@0megalul309
3 ай бұрын
@@gdoumitpiastri and Alonso? He was a problem
@tylerjennings8242
3 ай бұрын
I did think the scene in the new season from DTS from this past year after he was fired might end up being perfect if they shit the bed this year. Someone said to him “The situation is a bit shit currently isn’t it? You’re probably better off not being there.” I know DTS is full of some manufactured drama nonsense, but these behind the scenes little moments are why I still watch it haha.
@tjpassig208
3 ай бұрын
@@0megalul309not exactly Alonso has always what he thought was done best. Oscar wasn’t loyal and didn’t think about the legal consequences about his actions. But f1 doesn’t seem to need a completely loyal sport.
Whoever made the executive decision that VCARB’s terrible name must be mocked in every video is a smart person.
@Haeruna
4 ай бұрын
Just like how everyone is saying X (Formerly known as Twitter), it should be "The unfortunately named" VCARB.
@markeschen
4 ай бұрын
Doesn't anyone remember the how much grief they got when they changed the name to AlphaTauri?
@chiefbeef9905
4 ай бұрын
@@markeschenAlpha Tauri wasn't a great name compared to Torro Rosso, but at least it had some sort of identity outside of its title sponsors.
@leoarevalo6786
4 ай бұрын
What if someone likes the name visa cashapp racing bulls
@etiennec8139
4 ай бұрын
@leoarevalo6786 the one getting the sponsorship money, probably?
This preseason was the one that had the most sandbagging happening. It’s going to take the 1st race to truly see the pace of any of these cars. 😅
@sheldonong7648
4 ай бұрын
I don’t understand why they still sandbag 🤷🏻♂️ there’s only 5 days between testing and the first race weekend. That’s not time to copy anyone.
@Micfri300
4 ай бұрын
Yeah cause haas and alpine are suddenly going to win on Sunday.. The pre season test showed pretty clearly what the order will be if you average out the times and tyres.
@Uranswer-yu5kp
4 ай бұрын
@@sheldonong7648 I think the top teams feel they have something in-stored for RB. In part RB feels they have the fastest car on the field, by a long shot and don’t want to destroy hopes and dreams even before the season starts. If RB does have an amazingly fast car, turning viewers off before the season starts isn’t a good thing.
@kamelalg9859
4 ай бұрын
Looks like you know more than Alonso who said the season is already over 🙄
@RuboStars
4 ай бұрын
@@Uranswer-yu5kp I very much doubt RB has the fastest car out t there. It is based on the RB19, but there's no way it will be faster than the RB20
3:27 Love the little Freudian Slip there hahaha "Once the setup was Vetteled"
@TheXshot
3 ай бұрын
I heard that 😅 Although that's not a Freudian Slip.
Loved seeing Scott as little recurring character on DTS
@lukaseberhardt1
4 ай бұрын
Especially in the episode just after otmar was sacked lol
gonna be interesting battle for P2. Aston, Ferrari, Mclaren and Mercs
@Infinitycandyfloss
4 ай бұрын
Not astin Martin cause of mr stroll
@blueliam
4 ай бұрын
Are you sure about…. Mercedes…..??
@hecksters423
4 ай бұрын
The crowning of the 2024 F1.5 Constructors
@allorfh2495
3 ай бұрын
@@Infinitycandyflossyeah I keep forgetting the massive skill gap thats in between their drivers
@kaiju4765
3 ай бұрын
@@Infinitycandyfloss doesnt change the fact that without stroll, aston wont have the budget to begin with
The fact that alpine/Renault still can’t produce a decent car/engine after all these years of the hybrid era is baffling. Yes they’ve had decent results, but that engine has never been good
@sandilejunhosibbz4696
3 ай бұрын
😂Ever
@ey1615
3 ай бұрын
And they were the ones who wanted the introduction of TH engines the most alongside Merc 💀
@jakefallin9748
3 ай бұрын
Classic French mediocrity
When a team's self spoken highlights are future upgrades as opposed to the present, they are in trouble no doubt about it. It implies their current car is not working as expected and definitely not as hoped for.
Ranking Mullets: #1 Bottas Last year he had the business on the sides, but the party in the back was restrained. Now...not so much.
@outshimed
3 ай бұрын
Bottas has begun his "party all the time" phase
I just hope for a competitive season.
@aleksi4458
4 ай бұрын
Max max super max
@ashzv7660
4 ай бұрын
I'll wake you up in 2026.
@MrFloppyHare
4 ай бұрын
It will be ..... for places 2-10. 😀
@alexonMC
4 ай бұрын
Yes just scribble Max's name on 1st off when the race starts and it will be competitive
@kenzabel5394
4 ай бұрын
@@aleksi4458 newey newey super newey
great job, the race. 👍 for me, you're definitely the best for pre-season testing analysis : mixing track data analysis + feedback from the teams gives a pretty reliable picture, and you packing all that in a very professional looking video. 👌 top. 👍
Alpine falling off has to be the best news in F1 since Fernando came back.
@DanielRodrigues-km2ul
4 ай бұрын
why no one likes alpine?
@pleepler
4 ай бұрын
@@DanielRodrigues-km2ulBecause they're so incompetent it's impossible to measure their incompetence. They exceed our wildest expectations but downwards. Every time we think they can't do worse they do it and then some So who's their TP this week? Who's the Alpine CEO this month?
@stone_fpv2599
4 ай бұрын
French team
@mcwarior
4 ай бұрын
Lmao so many french haters, but I they get quiet when it comes to Vasseur, Wache, Mekies 😂
@calum5975
4 ай бұрын
@@stone_fpv2599 French in name only. Based in the UK and 90% of the staff are british, just like every other F1 team but Ferrari, VCARB and Sauber
I appreciate that you actually explained WHY you felt the RedBull was the best out of the pack. Many other channels are saying RedBull is still the favorite, but failing to explain WHY, because when you look at the posted lap times, Ferrari is the best going solely by that. That's obviously only part of the picture and I appreciate the insight.
@lukadzidic8211
3 ай бұрын
What exactly have they explained other than repeating what other media have reported xD...
I hope Gasly finds a seat at a better team.
@The_Curious_Cat
4 ай бұрын
I think both Sainz and Gasly could be great options for the Mercedes seat. Both showed they have consistent pace when given a proper car. Both show they know how to win races and both are young and have a big margin of progression.
@soundscape26
4 ай бұрын
@@The_Curious_Cat While not exactly old, Sainz turns 30 later this year, I think he's pretty close to be the final product by now.
@halofreak1990
4 ай бұрын
@@soundscape26Sainz should try his luck with Red Bull. Should be an easy 1-2 championship in 2025 with him backing up Max, as Sainz has his consistency nailed down.
@jskoesterer
3 ай бұрын
@@halofreak1990 I thought Sainz was going to Audi?
@miguelteodoro5013
3 ай бұрын
@@jskoestererwell, about Audi..... there were some rumours that they might give up on their F1 project. Apparently the guy that had the idea of Audi's F1 program left the company. Nothing is certain, tho. Just rumours. But there were also rumours of Hamilton moving to Ferrari, and look where we are now...
Loved your cameos in drive to survive
Can you cover the new WEC season ? A new set of rules and loads of new car, an easier pack to follow, with many GT3 cars, and the Hyperclass battle, with new works team, private team. It's eye catching and the WEC channel is doing a lot to hype this season
Personnally i think Aston Martin is underrated by everyone: if you look at sectors, Fernando was clearly slowing down in sector 2, by about 5 tenths on his fast laps. On his long runs he seems also to have been sandbagging and yet was clearly ahead of Maclaren and Mercedes, though behind Red Bull and Ferrari. I think the Aston Martin in Fernando's hands will compete with Ferrari, and will not be too far behind the Red Bull. Perhaps most telling was how confident Fernando looked: he smiled he shushed on social medias, he put pressure on Red Bull; if you look at AMF1 X account, they are also massively teasing with the shush. I think Aston Martin will be a major surprise come friday. We will know soon..
Hope McLaren and Aston have a strong car this year. Who knows.....
Btw, really liked the background track !
Sounds about right. 1st race will be interesting
I definetly got the feeling after these tests, that this season will be way more intersting than the last to be honest, at least at the front half
I just hope we get some exciting racing. Some wins shared around would be nice too 😅
Exactly what I thought. Thanks 👍
So happy to see Williams that high
@oscarmico3353
4 ай бұрын
“That high” = 7th????😂
@peterjohnson8935
4 ай бұрын
One of the last great names in F1.
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
4 ай бұрын
They're not even that high lol, A williams fan from 1997 would be like where's the standards haha
@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303
4 ай бұрын
@@peterjohnson8935 Also one of the great last names in F1
Well done on the Mike Crack separation. Feel like i will be sniggering at this all season.
you know you've really demoralized the field with your utter dominance when everyone else is ecstatic about being "only" half a second a lap off your pace xD
Is there somewhere we can download a high res version of the thumbnail, it’s v cool
already humming Dutch national anthem for Saturday
@McFlyGuyy
4 ай бұрын
The tears will be flowing
There a few amazing stills in this . Quite impressive. Maybe best ever.
Hi all! I’m a new F1 fan and I’m enjoying these videos to learn more. One thing I don’t understand is how teams like Haas and Alpine can’t just steal the ideas of the top cars? I get that each car could be suited for certain drivers, but couldn’t you take ideas from top teams and implement them into your car? Thanks!
Sauber F1 was extraordinary theoughout the pre testing , they ranked 3rd everytime in pre testing , wait for the season to start, Sauber returns to podium this year
Can we see a WEC ranking after their prologue or is this a F1 only channel?
I think most of the stuff is right on the money. Here's to a Maximum amount of parties!
every media personality got the enunciation of an english professor when they talk about mike krack
I love so much this account.
how can i see speed traps at any given session?
I hoped to see also the gap between the positions.😅
It is worth noting, that Alpine is often times slow in testing. It looked the same last year, they had about 350 laps under their belt, and slowest times on the board. I would say they are curently P7, behind Torro Rosso, and slightly ahead of Williams.
It's the "BWT Curse." Until Alpine loses the hideous pink, they will continue to meme.
What gets me is that teams have worked some time on the cars and then it seems that some underperform significantly ...🤔
@harry4454
4 ай бұрын
Sometimes the computers and real life don't correlate
Is it bad that I want sauber to lose simply due to the sponsors?
@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158
4 ай бұрын
Yes, it is. But you have right on that opinion.
@mattah
4 ай бұрын
Ferrari also have a gambling company as one of their sponsors; VGW.
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
4 ай бұрын
People have hated for far less lol
Let's GO!
So who's going to be 2nd to Max (drivers) and RB (team) champions 2024 and 2025?
At this point .. congrats to Max verstappen for winning his 4th wdc n Red Bull for their 7th wcc respectively 👏🙂
Didn't Stella say there are multiple areas where they are going to upgrade? Could be exciting for them if they have a similar upgrade rate to 2023
@lankyboy90
3 ай бұрын
Brown has also said they are bringing updates to every race and have some pretty major ones planned too.
Mercedes "yeah Lewis you was right zero pods don't work" Newey..... "Hold my beer"
Can't help but laugh every time I hear the name of the Aston Martin team principles name
I am from future and the result of the quali is P1 Leclerc with a beautiful lap P2 VERSTAPPEN P3 Russel P4 Sainz P5 Perez P6 hamilton P7 alonso P8 Norris P9 Ricciardo P10 albon And about the race winner 👀 🇬🇧
I am going to be honest this adjustable suspension that Mercedes created could be a game changer.
Great to see Kawasaki competing in F1
If you adjust the mercs straight line speed (slowest in testing) to match aston martin (engine customer), but keep the timings of the merc on the corners, you will see just how fast that thing is, it's pretty damn fast.
@lankyboy90
3 ай бұрын
That's a rubbish way to view it. Their top speed is probably drag limited, drag caused by the aero giving them the cornering performance. The Merc probably wouldn't have the cornering performance without the drag penalty. That's how aero works. By simply ignoring the Top speed data to paint a narrative that suits what you want to see, it ignores the truth.
@jtr549
3 ай бұрын
@@lankyboy90 You have no idea how these cars work mate.
@jtr549
3 ай бұрын
@@lankyboy90 By your logic the redbull should have been the slowest last year on cornering as they had 5+mph on everyone else in a straight line. Drag limitation is a major fundamental factor, but it's not as simple as you put it, it depends on the car and track, clever aero moves air differently depending on the speed the car is travelling, that's why there's limitations on flex etc.. however each team is trying to find clever ways to enable the car to do both, be fast on a straight, and fast in the corners.
@jtr549
3 ай бұрын
@@lankyboy90 to be fair there's issues with my first statement also, they are 2 different cars with different aero etc.. however I'd bet at race pace those cars are pretty close in a straight line. I don't believe for a second that Merc spent the entire 3 days of testing in a heavily drag limited setup.
There is a video just released of Verstappen driving the RB20 outside of testing, I thought that was against the rules.
I have high hopes for aston
@jb-y1487
4 ай бұрын
They were faster than McLaren
@justinburley8659
4 ай бұрын
Their success depends a lot on Lance
@Orion-ns8hj
4 ай бұрын
@@jb-y1487 yup
@michaelwilkie35
4 ай бұрын
Their success depends mostly on which Lance they get. Post Qatar Lance scored only 2 less points then Alonso, & early season Lance did well considering he had 3 broken bones he was healing from, but mid season Lance was abysmal, (especially in qualifying).
@bullymaguire14
4 ай бұрын
@@michaelwilkie35 goatee Lance ☝️😀😀
The 2nd Red Bull car is on a very low carbohydrate diet, hence the VCARB name.
I'll bet my money on Sauber. Their car may not be the best at the beginning of the season but I would love to see James Key lead the team to improve the car throughout the season and prove that he was not the problem at McLaren. This is my hopium)
4:55 why wouldn't rbvcarbhugocarbrbracingbulls just ctrl c ctrl v as many parts as allowed, like haas did with Ferrari?
So the same as the finishing order last year.
I have yet to listen to a video/podcast that correctly pronounces Ayao Komatsu's first name 😂 It's Ah-yow. The 'yow' sounds like 'how.'
This is a VERY bold claim, I know some of the others are sandbagging and all including RB, but I think Merc has way more pace in them in comparison to Ferrari. I will rank them as Number 2 personally and the team to take it to RB this year (Not immediately lol, after a few races hopefully). It could be anynone between Mclaren, Aston, Merc, and Ferrari but I would say Merc is faster than Ferrari. P.S. Please don't blast me for it peeps, it is just what I think from after what I've seen in testing (Just my observation). Please do correct me if I am wrong though.
i want 2012 reloaded. 5 competitors for the DWC
I feel like too much stock was put into the "poor" long run by Piastri. He was overfueled, has shown that to be his weakness, it's on a track where he didn't even get to race much last year due to DNF. I still think they'll have two cars in the top 5 in qualifying come Bahrain despite the track not suiting the car.
@glenrobinson10
4 ай бұрын
The Race had Ferrari, Mercedes & McLaren all within 0.1-0.2s on their testing data. F1 Data has Ferrari 0.2s ahead of McLaren who are ahead of Mercedes. It's all guesswork.
I don't get why VRB used 2 days on C1 and C2
Redbull have not put the car at top speed when we get to see it we are in for a big surprise, the car is going to be fast very fast. No question about it
As Lewis will be cut off from Mercedes and Sainz at Ferrari sometime this season, the negative impact of the Horner issue on RBR wins could level each other out, potentially providing McLaren the opportunity to win races. McLaren could be the 2nd team with Lando challenging Max for a race win.
By the way lasts years ranking the ferraris was 4th fastest in pre season testing and amr second fastest and that was obvious during the season.I believe that ferrari is close to red bull in terms of race pace since they werw fastest comparing perez lap times
Let's just hope the TV direction improves so that we get to watch the midfield battles unfolding rather than watching podium cars going around on their own. The McLaren, Aston Martin, Toro Rosso fight looks like it could be tasty if we're allowed to watch it.
#GOHAAS Sadly in last place where you have them 😢 I very much enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
With the exception of where Alpine lands, this looks like just about everyone else's prediction out of testing.
how to tell redbull heavily detuned engine on long runs in testing?
4:04 Max on day 1 😮
the redbull will be extremely quick, but only in maxs hands. perez did not look nowhere near as comfortable as max, and considering the pack has closed: Perez will not make it out of q2
Love the very deliberate pronunciation of Mike Krack 😅
The papaya orange ended the year strong, hopefully there’s an improvement in that car. Red Bull will lead the pack, The battle will be between Ferrari, Aston Martin , Mercedes and McLaren
Williams are making strong progress in a relatively short period of time. Their future looks bright….The flip side of that, I fear for Alpines.
My bet is that Red Bull will win the Constructors but the margin will be lesser than the previous year. RB will win because of Max's sweet form. I feel this will be Ferrari's year but Sainz will be equally important as Leclerc. Fred is up to the task of managing two *brilliant* drivers. Ferrari's best chance in many many years, fingers crossed
@halofreak1990
4 ай бұрын
The fact that Red Bull could've won the Constructor's Championship solely by virtue of Max's points...
4:40 haha I was waiting for the name drop. I’m actually laughing. Touché gentlemen… ❤
You can tell who's done research and who hasn't, the Merc was the slowest in a straight line in testing, they were heavily sandbagging and came 2nd, that car is quick... if you think they're going to reveal just how quick it is before the season starts and they can get points off of it, then you're naive.
Unless Sergio can put up a fight I might just forget about the races and watch the highlights
Except Red bull being first I'm not sure about Rest 4.
get ready for another max dominant season
Nice
Max Ferrari quali - Mercedes race pace Perez Aston Martin RB Mcalren Williams Alpine Kick Haas
@jb-y1487
4 ай бұрын
Interesting 🤔
@LucasMueller18
3 ай бұрын
Stuck in last year Ferrari have the top race pace almost close to redbull
@lukenoonan3898
3 ай бұрын
@@LucasMueller18 I'm just going off amus that's pretty much what they found. Redbull, 0.45 slower was Merc, 0.5 Ferrari, 0.55 Aston Martin. Merc had the lowest top speed by 11 km yet Williams was 2nd fastest. So clearly they had their engine way down. Tbh, the truth is no one knows but I'm entitled to give my opinion. Whether it's right or wong we'll know in a few days lol.
Is voiceover done by guy from middle eats ?
My boy otmar will be laughing and will be laughing too
Forza Ferrari! 2025 is our year.
🔥 🔥 fire
Chadlonso Racing f1 team >
Sensible ranking
McLaren are behind RB I think. The front end is nowhere...the amount of understeer both drivers were having to deal with was outrageous
Team Principal Mike. Krack.
F1 Teams: ..We have designed the best car we know how Also F1 Teams: ..But to be sure we have left room for upgrades and improvments if others are going faster
This is so wrong, merc literally admitted to sandbagging and hinted at rumours they were better than ferrari.
There is a huge difference between trusting the car and feeling the car.
@halofreak1990
4 ай бұрын
Why not both, as Max demonstrates to great effect? Max knows precisely what the car will do with a given input, and that's why he's so fast
@LucasMueller18
3 ай бұрын
@@halofreak1990glazing 😂😂😂😂
I think we are going to see Mercedes behind the McLaren’s and Aston’s
Just for recap... "prediction video" of The Race Last season in 2023 10. Williams [ 7th ]* (super wrong) 9. McLaren [ 4th ] (super duper wrong) 8. AlphaTauri [ 8th ] (right) 7. Hass [ 10th ] (wrong pro max) 6. AlphaRomeo [ 9th ] (wrong pro max) 5. Alpine [ 6th ] (close enough) 4. Merc [ 2nd ] (wrong) 3. Aston Martin [ 5th ] (wrong) 2. Ferrari [ 3rd ] (close enough) 1. RB [ 1st ] *[Position team actually finished the 2023 season]
@RoyMatzem
4 ай бұрын
Why are you comparing with the full season? thats make no sense. If you compare with Bahrain 2023 becomes 90% accurate.
Thanks to timestamps, finished the video in 10s
Red Bull wasn't as bullet proof compared to last year's test Perez had a few issues not too mention complete loss of drive and power and breaker failures
I am surprised you got McLaren only on 4th and that you think that Ferrari is a lot worse than what testing suggested.
@shoppingforleaves3162
3 ай бұрын
2nd is a lot worse than 2nd?
Red Bull Ferrari Mercedes Mclaren Aston Martin Visa RB Alpine Williams Kick Sauber Haas This is what 2024 constructors championship will look like :)
If today's timings indicate where cars are, then looks like you'll be stunned as Red Bull is not the benchmark.... or are they sandbagging?