Gary Anderson saying Stake have a stronger lineup than Red Bull is a very bizarre take

@kgrich836

5 ай бұрын

It might be time for Gary to go to the retirement home where he can eat pudding and ice cream while he yells at clouds

@soundscape26

5 ай бұрын

Not only Stake but all teams except Williams. Baffling.

@fhwolthuis

5 ай бұрын

Gary Anderson is just a has been attention seeker

@ao-b2774

5 ай бұрын

It's a designers logic that: They're a one-man team so don't score as a driver pair. They are however still better than Williams, which just feels really mean to the rookie Sargent.

@dylanhutchins2473

5 ай бұрын

Somebody doesn’t know what the word “pair” means

Get Gary on a video to explain his ranking and answer questions such as: what was he smoking when he did it, what planet is he operating on, does he know which drivers are on which team

@andyvasist418

5 ай бұрын

😂

@aslamnurfikri7640

5 ай бұрын

And what series he watched last year

@vantageracingleague5084

5 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@joetri10

5 ай бұрын

Gary is the only one that actually understands the sport lol. His explanations are valid but because they're technical and not parasocial, nobody listens. Even in this video it was explained in 1 sentence. No other driver can drive a car so heavily suited to Max. Whilst GA understands thats, everyone else goes ' NOPE!! LANDO CAN! BECAUSE HE'S LANDO!! GET LANDO IN THAT CAR, COME ONE GUYS, IT'S LANDO!!'... Which ofcourse, when these people are asked why they think lando would do well, the only answer every time it: 'BECAUSE IT'S LANDO?!'

@Formula1st

4 ай бұрын

@@joetri10 so you’re saying that Gary thinks Perez’ slow pace is actually because of the car, yet he ranks their driving pairing second last?

Gary Anderson with some outlandish takes, especially putting rb as 2nd worst. Comparing them to a lot of the other rear runners its unthinkable to me that even when checo is underperforming, the lineup could possibly be worse than stake, alpha tauri or haas.

@PH-jv4ik

5 ай бұрын

I mean I kinda get it but yeah 😂

@swl0323

5 ай бұрын

Gary Anderson still live in 2021 Abu Dhabi 😂

@erikapple8955

5 ай бұрын

Hes so biased

@gilgoodman1012

5 ай бұрын

More like 1991, he thinks Jordan was the greatest team ever and he is an equal to Adrian Newey and Rory Byrne

@tylercampbell2362

5 ай бұрын

Which is funny because I’d be willing to put good money down on a bet that goes something like this: you could give AT, Sauber, Williams, Haas, and maybe even Alpine’s driver lineups two RB19s last year, and both of their drivers would still score less than Verstappen alone. Williams is a given, even if Albon scored 90% of the points Verstappen did (which he wouldn’t) he outscored Logan 23-2, Logan isn’t making up the difference. Sauber, I’d say Bottas is on par with Perez, Perez scored less than half the points of Verstappen, as would Bottas. Zhou scored 60% of Valtteri so they’d come up short. For AT, we have a direct yardstick in Gasly; Max stomped Pierre with Gasly scoring less than a 1/3 of Max’s points together, Gasly improved since then, so even though he was clearly better than Tsunoda, I’d say Tsunoda is performing at or slightly above Gasly circa 2019. Even if he scored 50% of the points Max did, the fact he outscored Ricciardo nearly 3-1 means Ricc isn’t closing the gap to Max. Haas is haas, you could give them two RB19s and they would still find a way to come in 5th, but more seriously. Hulkenberg was pretty much dead even with Perez in their time together (23-22 in Hulks favor in race H2H) Magnussen was worse than Hulk so that’s a strikeout. Finally Alpine, now this would be close I reckon. Ocon and Perez were as close as Perez and Hulk were, but unlike Hulk Ocon has definitely made major strides forward since then. He did a convincing job against Alonso, so I think he’d definitely do better than Perez in a RB. Would score at least 50% of Maxs points, probably closer to 60-65% given his performance against Alonso, and the fact he’s pretty even with Pierre who has come a long way from scoring less than 1/3 of the points max did when they were together. Alpine wild probably get it done, but the fact they’re in complete disarray as an organization means if anyone could fuck it up, it would be them.

Given how good Max was, the only way RB can be ranked second worse is if you consider Perez to be the absolute worst driver on the grid. Sure he was bad last year, but it's clearly not the case.

@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten

5 ай бұрын

But that still wouldn't be possible because Verstappen is number 1 putting them somewhere in the middle not second last.

@peterhurd9667

5 ай бұрын

Relatively bad, without Max, Perez would have been world champion and I think his lack of performance was a mental issue, after a good start to the season Verstappens dominance broke Checo's self confidence and Helmut Marko's comments undermined him. He started the season thinking he could win the championship only to hit a (Verstappen)wall in Miami and the subsequent races

@user-wy5xe6ht2m

5 ай бұрын

​​@@peterhurd9667😮😂delusional at it funiest 😂

@summerlove7779

5 ай бұрын

Verstappen would have still won the constructors championship himself if Perez was not even there. What's the point of wasting a seat for Perez?

@daarom3472

5 ай бұрын

I think people including pundits, crazy as it might sound, still underestimate the level of performance Max has put on last year. This makes Perez look worse and also makes the car look better than it actually is. Yes, it's the best car. But it's definitely not more dominant than the 2014-2016 and 2019-2020 Merc.

"The jury is still out on whether [Stroll] can make the step forward that Aston Martin really needs." This will be his EIGHTH season in Formula 1.

@walover165

5 ай бұрын

Exactly what I said as soon that comment was made. It's been seven years. If he hasn't made the step up now, he's not going to.

@Iceman46

5 ай бұрын

By the end of next season Stroll will have done more races than Senna

@hellfun1337

5 ай бұрын

The jury gave their verdict years ago, it's daddy's money keeping him out of jail.

@SilverScarletSpider

5 ай бұрын

The jury has decided. Lance Stroll, Logan Sargent, and Estabad Ocon need to go away

I can live with Red Bull not being the best driver duo, but rating it the worst?!?

@LRaufKadcon

5 ай бұрын

Second worst, but still…

Gary Anderson with some hot takes lol

@swl0323

5 ай бұрын

Haas fourth best lineup 🤣

@thelync228

5 ай бұрын

More like senile takes

@LouSassol69er

5 ай бұрын

L takes

'Nobody is writing of stroll yet' - Well after SEVEN years in F1 where he underperformed year after year compared to his teammates who regularly score more than double the points. He has never shown any consistency nor potential.

@timberland_woodworking

5 ай бұрын

Stroll has shown massive consistency, consistently horrible.

@TheHarrie93

5 ай бұрын

@@timberland_woodworking There were some races where he did okay, even this season but 2 or 3 good races a season isn't enough.

@kohikappu

4 ай бұрын

Wet or bizarre race with full of safety cars or unpredictable pit stops is where he shines. His first podium did happen at Baku 2017 and this guy got his first pole at 2020 Istanbul, wet condition. But yes, his dry or "normal" track condition race/quali pace is very meh so he needs to sort this out.

2:25 error here. Albon dragged the team to 7th not 8th

@Penguig

5 ай бұрын

Referencing where they ranked the teams lineups I think

@BLENDITE

5 ай бұрын

then its 9th, so its still an error

@daarom3472

5 ай бұрын

lots of errors in the vid. Tsunoda wasnt faster than Daniel. Bottas wasnt faster than Zhou either

@RyanVitt

5 ай бұрын

@@daarom3472 Yeah idk who fact checked this one, but it seems like nobody.

@LouSassol69er

5 ай бұрын

Gary Andersons take on Redbull being 2nd worst lineup should be an error too. Dumb take.

I like the guy a lot, but George disappointed me last year, too many high-profile errors for a driver of his perception. I think Merc and Ferrari should be swapped, but other than that, pretty accurate. I expected Alpine to be a bit closer to Red Bull than that. Ocon and Gasly with the right machinery, potential to be really, really good, both are so dependable.

@Colinsan

5 ай бұрын

Same. I cannot understand how Merc was rated the best. George is massively overrated. He looked amazing during his time at Williams, but seemingly only because he was next to Latifi

@lucaduina2781

5 ай бұрын

@@Colinsan Merc rated the best, imo, because the fellows ranking the list are Brits. Most other people I've seen with less of a horse in the merc vs ferrari race put ferrari at number 1.

@ddha0000

5 ай бұрын

@@lucaduina2781 Most other people?..........who

@ddha0000

5 ай бұрын

@@Colinsan i mean............both ferrari drivers make mistakes all the time and crash more than george.

@lewishamiltonclassicf1580

5 ай бұрын

@@Colinsan ferrari cant be number 1 your delusional

I actually cannot believe that Anderson put RB in second last place. Both are proven Race winners, one a proven WC (arguably the most dominant ever). How can Mclaren even compare to that, when Norris lacks even a Race win??

@jareth0205

5 ай бұрын

While Gary Anderson's technical opinions is always interesting, I've learned to largely ignore his sporting opinions. They are not great

@theempires5

5 ай бұрын

​@@jareth0205 He has shades of his old boss, Eddie Jordan in sporting opinion. Outlandish reasoning with bizzare take on certain issue

@user-wy5xe6ht2m

5 ай бұрын

British bias my freind 😂let them do what they want and it will change nothing in the end Red bull win both titles and some people can go have nice evning 😂

@WorriedGranpa

5 ай бұрын

@@user-wy5xe6ht2mAre you saying that Redbull has the best driver pair? The difference in pace between the two drivers are massive. But they will still win😬 It’s either Ferrari or Mercedes who has the best driver pairing. The Mercedes drivers has roughly the same pace while Leclerc is clearly the faster Ferrari driver (the one who could actually win the championship of the two). I’m not English and don’t think it’s biased. At least it makes a little bit of sense, right? Maybe you’re new to the world of formula 1🤷🏼

@willyoung6858

5 ай бұрын

I can vaguely see what he means as a pair. If you put red bulls car performance at the level of McLaren let’s say, while max would easily score consistent podiums, and an odd win, checo would be back of the top 10 if not out if it most races off his performance in 2023.

Is Gary angry?

Results when you remove Gary Anderson doesn’t change the order too drastically but it does look better IMO 1st Mercedes 172 2nd Ferrari 149 3rd McLaren 130 4th Red Bull 109 5th Alpine 70 5th Aston Martin 70 6th Alpha tauri 46 7th Williams 24 8th Haas 22 9th Stake 16

@twhiteofrd_1102

5 ай бұрын

Great comment. Thank you

@8tonystark8

5 ай бұрын

Gary should stick to playing darts

@frankhuurman3955

5 ай бұрын

was confused for a second why all the team names were there but only 9 teams were counted but then I noticed the shared 5th spot haha. thanks for the alternative points :)

@indranigomes9874

5 ай бұрын

Don't think you can really say Williams is better than Haas and Stake though. Sargeant is terrible and while Albon has improved since his Red Bull days, it's easy to look good against Sargeant and Latifi. Is he quicker than Bottas, KMag and Hulkenberg? KMag probably, the other 2 I'm not so sure. Bottas' time at Mercedes is completely underrated (esp when you look at Perez), while Hulkenberg is incredibly quick over 1 lap (which is a very useful skill if you have a top car - again look at Perez).

@SilverScarletSpider

5 ай бұрын

@@indranigomes9874 Do you think that Pierre Gasly is a stronger racer than Alex Albon? If both were thrust into the 2024 Red Bull today, who comes out on top?

Sorry, but there's no way in hell I'm calling them Stake and not Sauber 😂

What a shocking result, said to myself - Merc on top before even clicking the video.

@dannyhartsock9922

5 ай бұрын

The Race love their British drivers.

@richardashton5015

5 ай бұрын

You know what they are like. Sniffing their own farts.

@ninoatanaskovic7872

5 ай бұрын

The opinions/rankings just tells you that the team of "experts" never drove an race in an Italian Hillclimb race series (with all due respect to the series) let alone they know anything how the F1 drives mindset and F1 drives management works. P. S. Where are the effors of Liam Lawson huh? You forgot that easily?

I don't understand how anyone could rank Mercedes as the top driver pairing given their propensity to drive straight into each other.

@j.s3300

5 ай бұрын

Because they still rack up the points

@rars0n

5 ай бұрын

@@j.s3300 If that's the sole criteria then there's no way that Red Bull is not #1, since they scored the most points.

@soundscape26

5 ай бұрын

Other than Qatar the rest was more or less insignificant.

@silverygold.6118

5 ай бұрын

@@rars0n this logic is so retarded these dts fans haha

@j.s3300

5 ай бұрын

@@rars0n racking up the points in a car that was problematic all season and getting 2nd. Is slightly more impressive than one guy in the most dominant car in decades, winning the WCC by himself

The British media choosing the all Brit line up as the best on the grid. Wow I am shocked at this completely unexpected result 😂

@finleyahmad-hambling5980

5 ай бұрын

So every time a British person says anything good about another British person it's British bias? So it's British bias unless they are ranked as the worst, that's so ridiculous. Please stop watching F1 you are toxic and ruin the sport

@isaacm2374

5 ай бұрын

It's a reasonable take. Even without bias a lot of people would put Hamilton - Russell over Leclerc - Sainz.

@user-wy5xe6ht2m

5 ай бұрын

​@@isaacm2374becouse they are delusional snowflakes like some people 😭🤣

This lineup is shocking 🤡

@henkormel5610

5 ай бұрын

Brits doing British things.

@soundscape26

5 ай бұрын

What's your ranking?

@dylanburston7453

5 ай бұрын

@@soundscape26 Mine is -Ferrari ( Clearly the best, one guy top 3, one top 6, both get along and play the team game, both have at least a decade left) -Mercedes (individually brilliant (less so for george after 23) but cost each other points and one is on the cusp of retirement) -Mclaren (Lando isnt as good as Carlos and can be easily broken, Piastri has "no" race pace) -RB (Max is Max, Checo cant has been mid since 2022) -AM (Chadlonso cant quite carry the window licker as well as Max carries Checo) -Alpine (same as mercedes, just slightly worse and 400% more french) -Haas ( have literally nothing to say on the matter) - AT (Both hard to rank, potentially as high as alpine) - Williams (Albon and the Yank, same as AM just Albon isnt as good as Alonso and The Yank isnt as good as the Windowlicker) - Stake (Zhou is invisible, Bottas is doing exactly what kimi did in retiring whilst still in f1)

What a surprise, the team with 2 British drivers is ranked #1, the bias runs deep

@letmechillhere6059

5 ай бұрын

When lewis is consistently out of Q3 n George kissing the Gap in Singapore, they deserve the top spot

@ddha0000

5 ай бұрын

i mean, lewis is probably still the best driver on the grid and george is probably top 6 or 7. not sure what the argument is. they fact they got 2nd in the constructors in the 4th fastest car shows that.

Max Won the Constructors Championship on his own………. Let that sink in

@thelarry383

5 ай бұрын

great car + Driver who isn't perez

verstappen alone takes the redbull lineup into the top 4 by himself some shocking takes here...

I think Ferrari is best now. Good balance across both cars and Sainz keeps getting better

@LucasMueller18

5 ай бұрын

Leclerc is getting better I think Sainz is getting worse

@user-wy5xe6ht2m

5 ай бұрын

​@@LucasMueller18worse 🤣😭

@EvanRudolph1

5 ай бұрын

Ferrari is better than merc

As a die hard F1 fan since the 1998, I must say the British bias in media coverage has never been worse. I look forward to Lewis retiring, not because he isn't a great (I believe he is one of the very best and his personal story is truly inspirational), but I pray his retirement will bring greater balance to F1 analysis and coverage. Some bias is human nature, but it became bad after about 2017 (post Rosberg WDC) and the afterburners were really turned on after 2021. It's become ridiculous now.

@MP422ownz

5 ай бұрын

Dude put the crack pipe down…. You are suggesting the most successful driver of all time, who finished 3rd in the standings in 2023 and has the biggest rivalry with the reigning world champion should retire….. only one with the bias is you…. 🤡

@AKK5I

5 ай бұрын

Gott strafe england

@Ash-1803

5 ай бұрын

You're more biased than the media my guy

@erikapple8955

5 ай бұрын

​@@MP422ownzlulu hasnt won a race in years. And he wont

@robbieceltic1036

5 ай бұрын

sorry i forgot dudeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!

I Think ferrari lineup should be 1st because if both drivers are fighting each other then it is bad for both but in case of ferrari the balance is quite good

This year is going to be interesting with all the drivers contracts ending

I knew they'd put mercedes first before i even watched it. These boys are so far up Lewis's a..e its scary.

Gary, are you okay?

So all the people on the panel are British (I'm guessing), & they voted the team with the 2 brits in it as best on the grid? I'm shocked.

@walover165

5 ай бұрын

Yeah. Super obvious.

@Zidobox

5 ай бұрын

Actually hilarious

@studyarjun6402

5 ай бұрын

Guess which other team has 2 brits and the team is also British... And guess where they rank

@HenryLipshut

5 ай бұрын

@@studyarjun6402 there isn't one.... Oscar is an aussie...

@walover165

5 ай бұрын

@@studyarjun6402 Uh, there isn't one? There are only three Brits on the grid and two drive for Mercedes.

The ranking from Gary Anderson only make sense if your ranking is based on the balance of strength between the two teammates. There is no question that Red Bull has the least balanced driver pairing on the grid. Not saying I agree. Just trying to come up with an explanation.

British channel: "The all British lineup is the best".. who could have possibly guessed.

I'll have some of whatever garys smoking

Russell and Hamilton have clashed so many times on track this season... what is the race smoking putting them on top

@jb-y1487

5 ай бұрын

They dick ride Russell so hard it’s insane he was nowhere near Hamilton

@j.s3300

5 ай бұрын

Where did they finish in the WCC?

@aldosembiring608

5 ай бұрын

Well if the Maclaren has enough more race to go they will be 2nd ​@@j.s3300

@user-wy5xe6ht2m

5 ай бұрын

​​​​@@j.s3300so by that logic Red bull should be the one first in this list right 😭🤣

@j.s3300

5 ай бұрын

@@user-wy5xe6ht2m well no because you look at Perez as a performer and he is not of the standard. Use the brain, kid

You know we're in peak parasocial DTS era of F1 when despite Gary Anderson showcasing he's the only one who understands the sport, everyone jumps on him because they don't get it. lol

@quentinhirschfeld9382

3 ай бұрын

Saying Bottas-Zhou is better than Verstappen-Pérez is nuts.

Merc has MAYBE the 4th best line up. Ferrari, McLaren, RedBull (Max) all clearly have better driver line ups. 5 years of this George hype and he has very little to show for it. There are easily 10 better drivers on the grid than him but all the British pundits keep trying to cram "George is a future world champion" into every sentence possible.

@mark5071

5 ай бұрын

Sorry, but Mercedes DEFINITELY has a top 4 line up. Even if you don't rate George that highly, Hamilton is still up there as one of the best on the grid.

British Media group vote British drivers best ... Shock...

@Penguig

5 ай бұрын

Sorry we'll put Logan Sargent at the top next time.

@Milkydrummer

5 ай бұрын

@@Penguig😂😂 exactly… 🤷🏼‍♂️

@soundscape26

5 ай бұрын

So they should do the opposite, place non-British drivers higher to mask their nationality?

@TRCizzle

5 ай бұрын

Just heard back from the Euro Media Group. They say Ferrari is best with Max taking the championship

@thierrantavakoli9264

5 ай бұрын

I know the British media is infamously biased but in this case its just facts. Mercedes have the strongest pairing. Closest is to them is Ferrari

However bad Stroll and Perez are, and they are very much two of the worst drivers on the grid, Alonso's and Verstappen's brilliance more than makes up for it. To rank them so low is honestly baffling.

@areebsiddiqui758

5 ай бұрын

Don't you dare put Perez on the same level as Stroll. Checo wiped the floor with Lance when they were teammates at Racing Point. Even Perez at his worst is miles clear of Stroll.

@user-wy5xe6ht2m

5 ай бұрын

​@@areebsiddiqui758you know if he was in Aston martin as Alonso teamate it be the same story

@areebsiddiqui758

5 ай бұрын

@@user-wy5xe6ht2m Alonso isn't as good as Verstappen right now and the Aston isn't built around one driver. And Perez even at his worst would still do a better job than Stroll. Tell me you're a new F1 fan without telling me.

@praveenkuncheria5492

5 ай бұрын

Most people rate Both alonso and max very highly. But they forget that their performance looks enhanced because their teammate is performing belwo5 the car capabilities.however lewis, leclerc and norris next year can't destroy their teammates like max and alonso because their teammates perform close to the car capabilities. Definitely ashton and redbull deserve to be ranked lower down the order as their teammates are garbage. Stroll already jad costed ashton one place I'm the construcotrs and if redbull had any proper rival perez would jav also costed redbull a lot.

@user-wy5xe6ht2m

5 ай бұрын

​@@praveenkuncheria5492i agrred 👍but the Quastion is if the others catch Red bull in 2024 and close the gap and i expect it the be the same story Red bull and max dominant the season and the others fight for who is Finish second in both the WDC and WCC 😮🎉

I wonder how many panelist are from UK and their bias towards HAM and RUS… coupled with being blind that Red Bull has won Driver 1st and 2nd place championship and Constructor… basing point allocation in solely speculation. Totally biased IMO.

@jareth0205

5 ай бұрын

Are you really arguing RB has the best drivers? VER obviously amazing, but Perez is not.

@fl3xipils252

5 ай бұрын

perez had to fight for second in dominant car, he was top 5 worst drivers last year, thats whats dragging red bull down, imo ferrari or mclaren should be first but mercedes is not that bad either

@MHLF1

5 ай бұрын

To say that Perez is better than others is ridiculous. He barely made it to second and if Ham wasn't dq'd from USA, there is a good chance he wouldn't have made it.

@redzone5655

5 ай бұрын

@@MHLF1 it was so ridiculous that he got the 2nd place. What I mean is that you cannot forget real data, facts. Everything else is just speculation: HAM would have, could have… etc… not really the point when you make a ranking. Because nobody knows for a fact how LEC, PIA or HAM would have made in the 2nd RB car. That is my point: look at the data and not to your liking or disliking to appraise results of a driver.

@swl0323

5 ай бұрын

It is because Mercedes do not have any chance to win (even not a race winner). So The Race create some fantasic ranking to cheer themselves up 😂

Piastri has great potential, and McLaren has a very good lineup, but I think putting them 1st is rather overselling his current ability. I don’t think he’s currently as good as Sainz, and there’s no way Norris is as good as Leclerc, so to me they are a clear 3rd.

@Wesquire

5 ай бұрын

Norris is better than Leclerc fairly comfortably.

@LucasMueller0418

5 ай бұрын

hahahahhh Norris fans compare someone with zero wins throwing around 3 of his 3 chances away to the guy who has fought mercedes and max for race wins is crazy @@Wesquire

@Wesquire

5 ай бұрын

@@LucasMueller0418 Norris curbstomped Leclerc once he got a competitive car midway through this year.

@jgagnier

5 ай бұрын

@@Wesquire Leclerc qualified top 3 thirteen times (including four poles), Norris did so 6 times (and 0 poles). From Belgium onwards, Leclerc never classified worse than 5th, whereas Norris finished 7th, 7th and 8th consecutively. Curbstomp might describe what Max did to Checo, but Leclerc and Norris are both fantastic F1 drivers who made the most of their machinery this year. If you want to argue that Norris is better than Leclerc, there's an argument to be made to counter what I wrote above, but it would be somewhat defeated by how over-the-top you make it seem.

@Wesquire

5 ай бұрын

@@jgagnier qualifying means literally nothing if you can't convert it to race finishes

Little biased saying Carlos cannot match Charles when he has a car that is to his liking, I’d say that about any driver. Charles consistently cracks under pressure and Sainz is consistently the smarter driver.

@bldomi6157

5 ай бұрын

Watch the second half of the 2023 season again and then you can see that Charles was faster + more consistent than Carlos.

@TheZimbeatz

5 ай бұрын

FINALLY someone agrees with me.. Carlos has been carrying the team. Leclerc is a one lap pace merchant lkike George (I like Charles) but they're acting like carlos is some scrub.

@bldomi6157

5 ай бұрын

@@TheZimbeatzIn the seasons that Leclerc and Sainz have been together, it is Leclerc who has beaten Sainz 2 times, also Leclerc is the one with more points, wins, poles, podiums, and better head2head stats. So it is actually Leclerc who has been carrying Ferrari.

@michaeltelfer3483

5 ай бұрын

@@TheZimbeatz Sainz hasnt carried Ferrari at all

@ReticentEcho

5 ай бұрын

Hello everyone, my overarching point is that any driver will be stronger if the car is set up for them, the commentator stating that Charles is faster if the car is set up for them, you can in fact say that about any driver. Perez is also strong when the car favors him, and Max is fast when it favors him. I’ve done some sim racing and the same holds true for me. Who is the strongest driver? I thinks that’s up for debate, Carlos is calm and collected, Charles has outscored Carlos however, when there a kink in the plan a race can quickly get away from him. In the end, points are the real measure.

Lots of emphasis of Norris being mistake-prone but none on LeClercs constant mistakes? Or is the belief that it's just because he has to overdrive an underperforming Ferrari to compensate? I've lost confidence that George is the long-term superstar on the initial promise he showed.

The quintessential British F1 journalist ranking

Putting Alonso & Stroll below Gasly & Ocon is nonsense. Alonso is the 2nd best driver on the grid while neither Ocon or Gasly are top 9

Putting Merc at #1 is purely driven by bias.

alternative title: ranking the 2023 driver line-ups from worst to best

@user-wy5xe6ht2m

5 ай бұрын

Yep 😂

Naming Mercedes the best driver pairing is insane. Ferrari has the best pairing, followed by mclaren. Lewis and George are not cooperating now, if the car becomes better it will be a nightmare

Merc being over Ferrari is just crazy imo. Their #1 drivers are almost level and i think that Sainz is still a slightly better race driver than George rn, and also not as prone to choking under pressure

@rjharikumar6555

4 ай бұрын

Absolute nonsense. We have seen nothing to suggest that Leclerc is on Hamilton's level and even if Sainz may be a slightly better driver than Russell right now, Hamilton alone tips the scales in Mercedes' favor.

I mean, In the case of Williams, if you best case scenario is snagging the odd points finish, having one guy that can definitely get the job done does work, as long as the other driver does bring something to the team. A driver like Logan in a faster car (like stroll in the AM) hurts a team in that position a lot more, where both drivers should be in the points every time.

Is that for real? Is a team composed of drivers that crashed between themselves last year the best lineup for next year? No bias present? ...

I'm guessing GA was drunk when asked.

I use a different system based on a number grade associated with a drivers ability to win championships, win races, score points quasi-regularly, and those that aren't able. Our conclusions are almost the same.

Me: How biased is this list The Race: Yes

Dumbest ranking theory/comments.. Biased commentators/People keep hyping Ferrari and Mercedes over Redbull is a joke at best. McLaren looks promising with a really good car so they can be up or down - either works fine. This is very first time I felt like British media bias showing up clearly in 'The Race' video, which is disappointing.

If every car was equal I would give the nod to Charles and Carlos as the best pair on the grid. Charles has the outright raw pace and magic and Carlos is very sound and efficient when he has the car set up to his liking and I still give Carlos the slightest edge over Russell..

@user-wy5xe6ht2m

5 ай бұрын

If My Grandmother Had Wheels She Would Have Been A Bike 😂1😭

was surprised to see Mercedes on top seeing how much Russell actually screwed up last year. If anything Ferrari and McLaren should be better than Mercedes as their driver chemistry seems to be working better. No comment on Red Bull as Checo just couldn't match Max in most races and he's stuck there occasionally underperforming. The rest just seems alright I guess

I want what Gary Anderson is smoking

A charitable view of Gary's takes is that he places a strong emphasis on the term "pairing" a la "the whole is greater than the sum of the individual parts", which I guess is somewhat of a noble approach. Its almost like he's asking the question what would a 1 driver team that represents a merger of both drivers' season look like. This favours the teams with a more balanced the line up even if they don't have the best results. I suspect this is his way of taking the performance of car out of the picture.

@swl0323

5 ай бұрын

Haas no4 best.. what a good take from Gary 🤣

@GaryWagers

5 ай бұрын

He probably thought to himself, "I'm the only person here who understood the assignment, aren't I?"

Tell me you have a British bias without telling me u have a British bias. 😂😂😂

Gary Anderson had some.... interesting(?) ideas here.

As a line up, I honestly think Lando and Oscar at McLaren are up there. If they’ve a decent car this year, at worst I can see them challenge for podiums on a consistent basis. At best… a few wins. That said, still think it’s going to be hard for anyone to catch the Red Bulls. Can’t see another season of complete dominance, but I do think they could come under a bit more pressure for the constructors this year.

Rusell has serious deficiencies in regards to his race pace. Let's be honest, lewis most times looks a cut above him. I dont think he has the raw speed of leclerc or max. Reminds me of a button.

I’m a Lewis fan! Have been since he joined in 2007 but seriously how can Merc be top of the list. They’d be third or fourth for me. Red Bull is just Max on his own anyway so no need to put them behind Merc

@voidtankage4289

5 ай бұрын

Max could be on his own but let’s say merc car is the same level as Red Bull, then merc duo is better than Red Bull. Sure max is great but rating duos Red Bull should still be lower than Ferrari and merc. I put Red Bull third, merc second and Ferrari first but I’m a merc fan so you could say I’m biased but I try not to be. I’m looking at it realistic.

@praveenkuncheria5492

5 ай бұрын

Most people rate Both alonso and max very highly. But they forget that their performance looks enhanced because their teammate is performing belwo5 the car capabilities.however lewis, leclerc and norris next year can't destroy their teammates like max and alonso because their teammates perform close to the car capabilities. Definitely ashton and redbull deserve to be ranked lower down the order as their teammates are garbage. Stroll already had costed ashton one place in the construcotrs and if redbull had any proper rival perez would hav also costed redbull a lot.

@voidtankage4289

5 ай бұрын

@@praveenkuncheria5492 exactly, Red Bull atm is good with just max because the car and driver is superior but once the car isn’t superior and the opponents is, then the duo as a whole will perform bad.

@praveenkuncheria5492

5 ай бұрын

I am very confident lewis and leclerc can go toe to toe with max in speed if the these teams are close with redbull. However max has the advantage of better strategy and pitcrew than mercedes and ferrari. However it could be advantage for mercedes adn ferrari in that perez wouldnt be anywhere near max if all these teams are in the same page of pace as redbull . Hopefully it happens. @voidtankage4289 @@voidtankage4289

@praveenkuncheria5492

5 ай бұрын

I am very confident lewis and leclerc can go toe to toe with max in speed if the these teams are close with redbull. However max has the advantage of better strategy and pitcrew than mercedes and ferrari. However it could be advantage for mercedes adn ferrari in that perez wouldnt be anywhere near max if all these teams are in the same page of pace as redbull . Hopefully it happens. @voidtankage4289 @@voidtankage4289

The Race Team, I am hereby applying for the recently opened up position of Expert Analyst. I will send an additional cover letter and CV through the appropriate channels. Please extend my best wishes to Mr. Anderson. I hope he recovers well from his recent mental breakdown.

I feel like a conversation with gary Anderson about f1 would be... interesting

I think Gary was smoking crack when he did his list

You guys rated Alfa Romeo C43 the least competitive car in the season review video. Yet somehow all of you believed that the drivers had underperformed. If anything, they outperformed the limitations of their dreadful machinery and stayed 8th for as long as they could.

I think it’s time that Sergio Pérez learns from Riccardo Patrese and be a good number two driver. When the 1992 season started his teammate Nigel Mansell had lost a lot of weight during the winter to a point where Mansell was lighter than Patrese and that really hurt is confidence and he was never the same after that. Also the switch from passive to activate suspension really hurt Riccardo Patrese and he never got used to Williams’ active ride system. Plus really, Riccardo Patrese was never really a top level driver in F1 but a great number two. Riccardo Patrese really did a good job accepting that fact, especially after the 1992 South African GP. This is I say that Sergio Pérez can learn a thing or two from Riccardo Patrese.

Listing Gary after a statement like “our team of experts” is hilarious after watching this video.

What did George's last season to be considered as a good driver? Being English maybe? 😂😂😂😂😂 The Rece is more like power rankings actually

Shocked that the british channel with a british panel just voted the all british line-up with the former 7 time world champion as the best line-up on the grid. Truly shocking.

A bit harsh on Sainz I thought.

I won't believe the Line-up is static until FP1 on Feb 29th

I don't understand why everyone is putting Mercedes so high... George wasn't near lewis in 23.. so on average. Surely ferrari and mclaren are ahead? Really baffled how George is being rated so highly after that last season...

Gary needs to do a public video to explain his thought process

I agree with the verdict on the red bull pairing but I think the potential for conflict with another strong driver next to Verstappen is to great a risk for the team.

It’s tricky when you’re having to weigh what Verstappen with someone who won’t get in his way is worth compared to two really solid drivers. If cars were equal I’d expect Verstappen to win the drivers and Merc the constructors (Ferrari and McLaren and Alonso being close too)

lol so you're telling me the washed up car merchant champion and osama bin russell are supposed to be the best driver line up currently in F1? this coming from the british "panel of experts" ranking the all british driver line up to be the best doesn't sound biased at all

all I am seeing is some serious British bias, the two Mercedes drivers have shown clear signs of cracks in their abilities through out last season yet are considered the best pair on the grid of this season. are the Race a full British panel?

Two things : 1- Opinions in F1 are always emotional and short lived. 2- Oscar is well liked, and opinions of him are clouded. He's overhyped af, and his contribution and deficit to Norris is similar to Stroll's to Alonso.

@mark5071

5 ай бұрын

2 - Not entirely true. I agree that he is overhyped, because there was a significant performance deficit to Norris, but for a rookie it was still really good.

@nicolekovala

5 ай бұрын

he’s not overhyped at all. Stroll also has 7 years of experience. Oscar also would’ve been closer in point if that’s what you’re comparing, if he wasn’t taken out by other drivers in the last races. Watch the races

@mark5071

5 ай бұрын

@@nicolekovala It's not about his points, it's about his race pace. Again, he had a really good rookie season, but he still had a significant performance deficit to Norris, who himself is not actually confirmed as a top tier driver.

‘Certainly no one is writing stroll off yet’. Come on that HAS to be ironic.

Don’t get me wrong - I love OP and am excited about his future potential. However, in the 2024 season I would rather have Checo driving the RB20.

The Race as a publication is turning into a Mickey Mouse show. Their experts? Daffy Duck and peppa pig

To sum up the vid: british journalists think british driver pairing is the best. The end

@soundscape26

5 ай бұрын

This is an aggregate, only 4 of the 9 voters put the Mercedes lineup in 1st.

@WeAreTheRace

5 ай бұрын

@@soundscape26 Good spot 👍

@Iiuuuiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

5 ай бұрын

@@soundscape26 so who came out on top on aggregate exactly?

@Holami123

5 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 typical British "journalists"

@Holami123

5 ай бұрын

1 "journalist" even put red bull 9th😂😂😂😂

is gary okay

Imagine british journalists voting for only double british lineup. Who could guesses it?

Williams keeping a seat for Kimi Antonelli is a bit of a stretch. Only entered F2 just this year.

So, you literally say you have a driver who's better than any other two drivers team, which should rank him by himself on top of the rest, but you rank him 4th? What were you smoking? Or did you mix the 2019 results?

It will be disappointing that British drivers weren't best in RACE poll

While I disagree with many of the individual takes made by the panelists, my list results would end up about the same.

Hulkenberg's "well- known" tire management problems? You mean the overheating that's a key problem is of the Haas?

@quentinhirschfeld9382

3 ай бұрын

Hulkenberg is notoriously known for being bad on front limited trac

I really don't understand how anyone could rate RedBulls line up below McLarens. Verstappen is obviously the best driver on the grid right now so it comes down to who you think is better, Perez or Piastri. You can say Piastri has a higher ceiling or whatever and he's impressed on his rookie year, but as of right now, Perez is the far better driver, dispite his struggles. Piastri wouldn't have come 3rd, let alone 2nd if he were Max's teammate and Perez probably would have scored more for McLaren. I've been so impressed by Piastri s attitude and have no doubt he'll become a top driver, but Perez is so experienced and perhaps an underrated driver, but one rookie season who was still far off the pace of his teammate doesn't make him better.

@quentinhirschfeld9382

3 ай бұрын

Pérez failed to go to Q3 in at least 6 occasions and only recorded 9 podiums with one of the most dominant cars ever, finished 300 points behind his teammate. Difficult to have done worse than he did last year.

That panel is oblivious of Ocons abilities

I honestly see no big difference between Gasly + Ocon pairing and Hulkenberg + Magnussen. Both are among the most balanced pairs.

I agree with everything but I think overall both Mercedes and Ferrari have equally strong driver line-ups. I mean for 2024 at Ferrari both Carlos and Charles are at their peak and at Mercedes Lewis is still at peak but George has yet to reach his peak so I think both Mercedes and Ferrari have equal driver line- ups in my opinion.

In the case of Mercedes...if you want to finish first you have to first finish. Fastest over one lap is irrelevant if you can't put that position to good use. In my opinion, Russell did an outstand job in the 2022 season. When he was at Williams he was used to hauling a boat anchor around the track and when he drove the 22 Mercedes as bad as it was it was still better than a Williams. Hamilton was given a boat anchor to haul around compared to a rocket ship the last couple of years before. 23 came about and he won internally by a large margin. 2024 should be the measuring stick.

Ferrari Boys are the best driver pairing in F1 today no doubts 💀

It’s incredible how much the media are blinded by LeCrashes Qually performances to mask his narrowness as a race driver. By all accounts if Sainz races Mexico and isn’t screwed over in Vegas he finishes the season with more pts. All whilst it’s clear he isn’t the favoured driver in the team. Sainz is a more complete driver than Charles.

@Wickey934

5 ай бұрын

Are you aware that across all three years they are teammates there is a bigger gap in their race pace than quali pace? Not in Sainz favour I may add.

@user-wy5xe6ht2m

5 ай бұрын

​@@Wickey934the truth hurt 😭

@Wickey934

5 ай бұрын

@@user-wy5xe6ht2m What truth? The data and stats are there, but if you would watch this sport with eyes open, you wouldn't even need them to know it

Who else stopped watching when they realised it was going to be a British biases video?

You need to be like the Olympics and trow out the high and low judge scores and use the rest.

Someone needs to check in on Gary Anderson's well-being. What the HECK is he on about!?

@mark5071

5 ай бұрын

I honestly do not know why the Race employs him. He has the worst takes on any subject.

@DeathBlocks

5 ай бұрын

Even if Perez were replaced with Mazepin that ranking would still be trash. Perez was bad this year but worse ranking them 2nd worst would mean he was miles below someone like Sargeant or Stroll. And so far below Bottas or KMag that Max's brilliance doesn't make up for any of those. I think 4th is fair but nothing below that.

@joetri10

5 ай бұрын

Was you not listening? Don't blame someone else for your lack of cognitive understanding

@brendan7632

5 ай бұрын

@@mark5071 unfortunately I’d have to agree. His takes on aerodynamics are so outdated as well. Listened to him explain how it all worked in the 90s is great, but every pre season he’s wrong about what cars “packaging” look good in testing lol

Saying Red Bull have the second worst driver line up is just insane, is Gary on crack? No matter how crap you think Perez is he is not worse than Zhou and Bottas sure as hell isn't better than Verstappen so how can Red Bull be behind Stake? Even if their line up was Perez and Perez it would be around the Alpine level.