Ranking the 15 BEST Affordable Watch Brands Tier List

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Sunday with Guy Episode 4 - From worst to first today we're creating a tier list of the 15 best affordable watch brands. Let me know in the comments, did I miss any brands, rank any too high (or low), or otherwise mess up this list?
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  • @JustBlueFish
    @JustBlueFish Жыл бұрын

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  • @kingtaj
    @kingtaj3 ай бұрын

    Kind of wild to see Fossil and Bulova at the same tier.

  • @BenNS1971
    @BenNS1971 Жыл бұрын

    Citizen has so many mechanical watches, including the Promaster range. Myota 8 and 9 series are all Citizen. They also have some very high-end pieces that compete with Grand Seiko.

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I’ve just never seen any of them in person nor do I know anyone who has them. I guess that was my poorly conveyed point. I’ve only ever seen their Ecco Drive stuff - which is great.

  • @ManG1aze

    @ManG1aze

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@strangelybrown3054 he knows about them. Just never used one. Jesus lmao calm down

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    10 ай бұрын

    @@ManG1aze haha, took the words out of my mouth. Dude's about to have a stoke over there.

  • @Tyler-sl6vg

    @Tyler-sl6vg

    8 ай бұрын

    I was just in Japan and saw a lot of Citizen mechanicals. I think they are mostly JDM. The Eco Drives are bullet proof. Given that Casio got S and only makes quartz I would have ranked Citizen A but I admit they are not as mainstream with watch enthusiasts. I am hoping with the Tyosa they are making some changes. My myota movement watches are super consistent. Overall I say this ranking with all the brands is pretty spot on.

  • @ManG1aze

    @ManG1aze

    8 ай бұрын

    @@JustBlueFish dude for real lmao

  • @DavidRon
    @DavidRon Жыл бұрын

    Knocked Timex down for being low quality when an apple watch will literally stop working by design on 3-5 years due to lack of software support and security updates by the manufacturer. 💀 Agreed with everything else on the list and everything you said. Nailed it!

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    Жыл бұрын

    Timex breaks, apple is planned obsolescence. I’m ok knowing the product I purchased has a shelf life, at least it’s transparent with apple and I can plan for the inevitable future upgrade. Timex is just a ticking time bomb waiting to go off and break. There’s a difference in my opinion.

  • @DavidRon

    @DavidRon

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JustBlueFish that's fair.

  • @jehru2800

    @jehru2800

    11 ай бұрын

    The part about apple watch is spot on. All of these watches will outlive the apple watch

  • @DavidRon

    @DavidRon

    11 ай бұрын

    If you go into the Timex purchase expecting planned obsolescence (as I would with say a moonswatch or any other watch that costs less to replace than service) then I'd personally rank things differently. But these are all opinions.

  • @BlissBatch
    @BlissBatch8 ай бұрын

    Steeldive and San Martin should be S-tier. Sad that no homage brand made the list.

  • @BenNS1971
    @BenNS1971 Жыл бұрын

    I don't mean to disrespectful, but I disagree with just about everything you've said, which is impressive.

  • @NCSheriff7

    @NCSheriff7

    9 ай бұрын

    salty Seikofanboy? 😂

  • @DoveSharma

    @DoveSharma

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@NCSheriff7as if you are not, why would you pretend to be evil?

  • @NCSheriff7

    @NCSheriff7

    8 ай бұрын

    @@DoveSharma what lil nigga?

  • @setahr

    @setahr

    3 ай бұрын

    Same!

  • @joseluisoliveiragoncalves107
    @joseluisoliveiragoncalves107 Жыл бұрын

    Citizen os One of major manufacturer ,mechanical miyota movements are very high quality the cheapest 8 series and the top 9 series . Also has the bulova, le joux perret, glaicine, sector etc.

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @Lanciarules

    @Lanciarules

    Жыл бұрын

    Sector is not owned by Citizen

  • @micheldepaula8733

    @micheldepaula8733

    10 ай бұрын

    Not Glycine, that is owned by Invicta

  • @resjon7981
    @resjon7981 Жыл бұрын

    Seiko need to make quartz versions of all their best designs. SPB143 quartz for me.

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    Жыл бұрын

    That would be cool.

  • @marcocastagnetti7086

    @marcocastagnetti7086

    Жыл бұрын

    Good idea, or even go one step further and rid of automatics in seikos all together.

  • @resjon7981

    @resjon7981

    Жыл бұрын

    @@marcocastagnetti7086 Yes indeed and use high accuracy quartz movements.

  • @chia-mingyang5804

    @chia-mingyang5804

    Жыл бұрын

    SPB143 indeed looks great

  • @AlexanderB.
    @AlexanderB.11 ай бұрын

    Agree about Seiko. They are upping their prices, but their QC doesn't reflect that. Citizen do make some very few mechanical watches, after all they own Miyota.

  • @ShadowKingpin
    @ShadowKingpin10 ай бұрын

    Orient has been a gem. They are incredibly reliable watches, but aren't costing me a ton of money. Not to mention, their Bambino line is nice.

  • @enasnI127
    @enasnI1272 ай бұрын

    C tier ist just wild. Mido has COSC Movements + !!80!! hours power reserve + 600m WR + adjustable wrist bands + saphire chrystals and amazing beauty/quality in a one watch for about 1500$. And that's in the same tier as Fossil?! Mido is probaply one of the best bang for buck brands in the world.

  • @_RJ_Z
    @_RJ_Z9 ай бұрын

    Seiko and Certina speaks to me. Yeah, Certina is easy to get in Europe. Im currently wearing my DS Action 38mm in titanium right now. It is a amazing watch!

  • @s.m.whiteII
    @s.m.whiteII8 ай бұрын

    My Orient Triton/Neptune had a broken stem in less than a year old. That has never happened with any Seiko, Mido, Certina or Hamilton I’ve owned. Just my experience

  • @richardclarke1693
    @richardclarke169310 ай бұрын

    Your list was great and to the point. It’s just that I don’t see Apple as a watch but a disposable.

  • @mitchelljohnson1010
    @mitchelljohnson10103 ай бұрын

    Great video. 🎉 respect your well informed opinions. I love your Steinhart videos.

  • @iamkyros2233
    @iamkyros223310 ай бұрын

    Khaki field automatic was my first automatic watch as well, still my favorite watch 😃🙏

  • @mikesmusicden
    @mikesmusicden23 күн бұрын

    Glad to see someone recognize how good Orient watches are. I have several and they keep great time, have excellent build quality, and look fantastic. And yes, they are an outstanding value for the money 👍

  • @anthonystevens8683
    @anthonystevens8683 Жыл бұрын

    Nice one Guy. From my exposure to the brands that you mention not including Apple (I've never tried one) I have to agree with the rankings with one slight caveat. This was a ranking for a brand and not particular watches. So where a brand has a bundle of watch options with only a few great watches at affordable prices the ranking would be below those who have a greater ratio of great affordable options to the rest from that brand. For me I would maybe consider Tissot a 'B-' but that would be by a whisker. As an affordable watch I have to agree that the Apple watch deserves it's position with a caveat that to all intents and purposed it is a disposable watch and like all 'smart' watches I have to wonder what will be recycled. Many thanks for sharing.

  • @mostlysunny4u
    @mostlysunny4u4 ай бұрын

    Thank you for closer long format video ❤

  • @chi-towncalifornia5916
    @chi-towncalifornia5916 Жыл бұрын

    I’m fully supportive of your decision to B-tier Seiko, guy. They are not good value for money nowadays, when you consider how many other brands have caught up with them for quality, interesting designs, and bracelets, for similar or less money. I have my SARB035 and my SKX009, the rest of my Seikos I sold, and the last Seiko product I bought was an Orient Kamasu. I refuse to pay more than $500 for a Seiko.

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    Жыл бұрын

    Those are a couple good ones to have if you’re gonna have any.

  • @marcocastagnetti7086
    @marcocastagnetti7086 Жыл бұрын

    HI Guy, interesting veiw on the seiko movements, which leads me to ask you a question. What has been your experience on time keeping with eta 2824, selita sw200/sw300 movements as a comparison.??

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    Жыл бұрын

    Mostly excellent with those movements.

  • @marcocastagnetti7086

    @marcocastagnetti7086

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JustBlueFish I surpose the answer was obvious, theres a reason why these movements have used for decades by most brands and are still used today. Thanks for your reply. 👍

  • @markt5493
    @markt5493 Жыл бұрын

    Citizen has a hot new model of mechanical watch the Tsusoya. It looks like the colored Rolex Oysters that were released a couple of years ago. $450 for a good-looking watch.

  • @BenNS1971
    @BenNS1971 Жыл бұрын

    Have you updated your information about Tissot and Hamilton MSRP

  • @gregoryreed8567
    @gregoryreed85679 ай бұрын

    Enjoyed every minute of this great video and subscribed. That said, could not disagree more with the majority of your tier list, having owned most of these watch brands, sans C. Ward. Though your rankings differ from mine, very interested in your reasoning. Keep up the good work.

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching and the sub, appreciate it.

  • @d.av.s2798
    @d.av.s2798 Жыл бұрын

    I agree with absolutely everything you said on this video. Cheers!

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    Жыл бұрын

    Awesome, thank you!

  • @gunnystew7404
    @gunnystew74045 ай бұрын

    Man, you are crazy. Tissot, Hamilton and Mido all hit way above there weight class. I’d put my Omega against my Mido any day and it cost 1/5 the price. Haha 😂

  • @danspencer4235
    @danspencer423511 ай бұрын

    Casio deserves it's own category - 1980's Designs.

  • @HarryJoiner
    @HarryJoiner Жыл бұрын

    Love your stuff - but if you’re going to list Apple, you should also mention Garmin (also S tier, imho)

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah too many brands to pack into one video. Maybe for part 2.

  • @TinBin-Craig
    @TinBin-Craig Жыл бұрын

    i agree with your choice of list.... am a citizen and casio fan.... never been a big seiko fan but i do like there solar watches least they keep good time lol cheers

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah if Seiko can’t make an affordable mechanical watch that keeps good time they should just make more quartz and solar watches.

  • @aesric
    @aesric11 ай бұрын

    seiko was ranked very accurately. every single seiko watch has a nonsenical miss, and i mean every

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    11 ай бұрын

    I'm glad some of you guys agree with me.

  • @remus2001
    @remus2001 Жыл бұрын

    Have you missed all the articles and videos about the new Citizen Tsuyosa line? They’re all terrific, affordable, AUTOMATIC watches.

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah hadn’t seen that one yet. Looks cool thanks for sharing.

  • @aubsta1
    @aubsta1 Жыл бұрын

    This was a fun video!

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @marcgoulding5230
    @marcgoulding523011 ай бұрын

    I didn't think it would happen, but I was mind-blown when you said the A word...

  • @Dialandhands
    @Dialandhands Жыл бұрын

    In the words of Nico, CASIO IS GOD TIER!! And they really are. I finally found a g shock that I like the gw6900 with a dw5600 resin strap and it’s so comfortable and easy to wear. I have other cheap digital Casios and they’re great but there’s just something more fun and cooler about the g shock that makes it awesome to wear. I’m gonna buy another so I can put a white bezel and strap on it. Best $90 watch ever made! Imo😁

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    Жыл бұрын

    Very nice! Enjoy the that Casio.

  • @DavidRon
    @DavidRon Жыл бұрын

    Pretty sure Swatch didn't take over Omega. Swatch was formed through the merger of two companies in 1983, one of which, SSIH, was formed by the merger of Tissot and Omega in 1930. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Swatch_Group

  • @goldenarm009
    @goldenarm009 Жыл бұрын

    I like the video idea, you did a great job, and I’m a big fan. However I disagree with so much of this list. Like, 9/10 people if you asked them which brand is better, Orient or Seiko, would say Seiko. That boggles my mind you think Christopher Ward, Orient, and Hamilton are better brands. And Certina and Fossil on the same tier? Certina is a Swiss brand with heritage, and Fossil makes quartz fashion watches! Apple in S tier is where I know you’re trolling for engagement with these insane rankings. There’s Bulova watches from the 60’s that are still ticking away where an Apple Watch will be a brick in 3 years. You are on absolute crack with this list

  • @marciosouza8656
    @marciosouza86566 ай бұрын

    Man i agree about Apple! And i am a watch collector... I have a lot of those brands you mentioned, but i love smartwatches too ..

  • @jtec99
    @jtec99 Жыл бұрын

    You had my support after knocking Seiko around. Yeah baby, gimme them orients.

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @Embargoman
    @Embargoman8 ай бұрын

    Citizen owns the Miyolta movement and they have some mechanical movements.

  • @jmartinezci1
    @jmartinezci12 ай бұрын

    Citizen has the Tsunoya automatic line. They're pretty awesome hehe😊

  • @giezicontreras2552
    @giezicontreras25525 ай бұрын

    Finally some love for Fossil!

  • @mfmf100
    @mfmf100 Жыл бұрын

    Nice list. Baltic could maybe make your next one, though they could be pricing themselves out. Can’t pretend Invicta (and Glycine which they bought) doesn’t exist. And the Apple Watch isn’t a watch, it’s a size of apple rectangle.

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    Жыл бұрын

    Baltic is great. Tons of great brands I didn’t have the time to rank.

  • @ruby055
    @ruby055 Жыл бұрын

    Citizens has many mechanical watches and makes movements for lots of other watch makers

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @mikejacobs7464
    @mikejacobs74645 ай бұрын

    I’d agree putting it on an affordable smart watch but as a watch NO. Besides Apple Watches aren’t necessarily waterproof without buying additional accessories for it.

  • @joecheng891
    @joecheng891 Жыл бұрын

    Would love to see Seiko reissue their midsize classics in 8F quartz ie alpinist, sarb033/35; then they’ll be A tier at best. Their low end mechanical movements are really poor at timekeeping.

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    Жыл бұрын

    Truth

  • @timmcdonald5335
    @timmcdonald5335 Жыл бұрын

    Informative video, well done. I think you could give more weight to Seiko solar dive watches ie the solar PADI which I have and is gaining 1sec a month. On accuracy, all mechanical watches become more inaccurate over time, Rolex and Sinn included, so I think this is a bit harsh IMO

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    Жыл бұрын

    I have had a couple Seiko solar watches over the years, they were good watches, but Seiko doesn't put their full weight behind the Solar and quartz models - or so it seems. Their best designs and models are (in my opinion) the solar or quartz models, which is a shame.

  • @turnbasedtoddy7664
    @turnbasedtoddy766411 ай бұрын

    Great list! The only thing I will say I don’t really agree about is putting Christopher Ward on here. They don’t have many watches under $1000.

  • @losdawg6265
    @losdawg626511 ай бұрын

    Nice list sir! Enjoyed the video. For me, no way I have fossil in my C tier personally. Like you, I had them growing up as a good, but sentiments aside, they are junk. Personally I’d have timex in the C tier and not B. Although if h they have been coming out with a lot of interesting rereleases over the last few years, I just don’t think their quality is very good. Their solar watches and digital pieces not named Ironman are garbage.

  • @mfmf100
    @mfmf100 Жыл бұрын

    Are you including Oceanus in Casio?

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    Жыл бұрын

    Not really, they’re kinda to expensive to be considered affordable. But like most of the brands mentioned they all have some watches that have prices peeking above the $1000 price point.

  • @NicholasSadlier
    @NicholasSadlier Жыл бұрын

    OK. So I'm a mechanical watch nut but now you have me going to check out Apple watches. I don't subscribe to the idea that if you're into mechanical watches you need to invest in a crucifix for protection against evil in case you find yourself within a 50 yard radius of a smart watch. 😉

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    Жыл бұрын

    Check them out you might be surprised.

  • @Marshal77
    @Marshal77 Жыл бұрын

    24:42 "(Apple watch) best tool watch", I disagree with this, but I think the reason you say this is because of different functions, I (and I believe many others)value more durability over functions in tool watches. Also apple watch is not grab n go watch, you have to recharge it. But yeah, these are all opinions.

  • @tirrelldaveport3671
    @tirrelldaveport367111 ай бұрын

    The only thing Orient is missing is an everyday sports watch. Something like a dresskx, or SARB. You pair something like that with the Bambino and Kamasu, and thats a 3 watch collection that needs nothing else

  • @Embargoman
    @Embargoman8 ай бұрын

    Damn, I could say I put Timex S tier but Apple Watch! That is like putting the Swiss Army Knife as S tier of pocket knives. I have an Apple Watch and Apple Watch is like the Swiss Army knife of watches it does multiple tax, so Victorinox to make smart watches to do the same functions as their pocket knives. In a way I had a 10 dollar analog Casio watch and it turn out to be a dud after 5 years and my analog Timex Expedition keeps running and it does what they say it takes a licking and keeps on ticking; while the only dud from Timex I got is this Solar powered IronMan and in a way I had a bunch of Ironman watches and they stood the test of time.

  • @nateb9768
    @nateb9768 Жыл бұрын

    I have an Apple Watch series 3 and it doesnt even work due to lack of software support. Apple doesnt care about the longevity of their products and would rather have you spend a few more hundred dollars.

  • @austinh7967
    @austinh796710 ай бұрын

    I think Chrsitopher Ward is good but they lack in brand identity. I agree that a good portion of their designs are strongly inspired!

  • @castellanosberas
    @castellanosberas11 ай бұрын

    Knot , Minase, Fuge watces from Japan are wonderfull watches with incredible price and I suguess you what incredible wathc white price

  • @gmotionedc5412
    @gmotionedc5412 Жыл бұрын

    Wolbrook, Farer, both have crazy cool watches I own many!!

  • @peterbeck-rasmussen8514
    @peterbeck-rasmussen8514 Жыл бұрын

    I think you should educate yourself on Citizen before you make such a list - Citizen own Miyota, which is one of the worlds largest manufacurers of mechanical and automatic watch movements. They sell these movements to a lot of other watch brands, but also they are putting them to good use in some of their own watches, such as many of their Promaster Marine Dive watches, their NB1050/60 sports/dress watch line and other watches in their "Collection" line. True they make very much use of quartz and solar powered quartz watches (after all they were the first to make a high quality solar movement in their Eco-Drive movements), but to say that they don't have mechanical watches in their line up is just an uneducated statement. Sorry, I just had to get it out there ! 🙂

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    Жыл бұрын

    I didn’t say they don’t have any . I said I’ve never seen any I’ve only ever seen their quartz EccoDrive watches, which are incredibly common and popular (Promaster, Nighthawk, etc.). I never spoke in absolutes, please recognize the distinction before trying to insult me and insinuate I’m uneducated.

  • @peterbeck-rasmussen8514

    @peterbeck-rasmussen8514

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JustBlueFish I did not say (or intend to say) that you are uneducated - I was making the argument that you should educate yourself on the brands you were ranking, because your statement, which was clearly questioning whether Citizen made mechanical watches was uneducated in this perspective.

  • @gyrfalcon7332
    @gyrfalcon733211 ай бұрын

    Interesting takes though I can’t agree with Timex being ranked as high as Seiko and Citizen. Many of Timex watches are junk including many of the newer models. I’ve purchased 6 watches over the past two years and returned 5. The one I kept (Flix reissues) actually was came with a broken indigo button. Replacement watch was sent and all is well with it. The others felt incredibly cheap including a Waterbury gmt, and all had QC issues. Misalignment, loose bezels, loose buttons, horrible straps, overly thick, and very tinny feeling.

  • @lenimbery7038
    @lenimbery7038 Жыл бұрын

    I'd vote for Bulova precisionist base models (not the ugly higher end ones) for the A tier

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    Жыл бұрын

    There are a few good ones in there.

  • @MarkM58

    @MarkM58

    Жыл бұрын

    I own a Precisionist and it is far from the 10 seconds/year accuracy they claim. Mine is more like 10 seconds/month.

  • @sathishrao7926
    @sathishrao79262 ай бұрын

    Can we have an exclusive tier called “Casio Tier” meant only for Casios ? My 25+ Casios are asking the above question 😉

  • @castellanosberas
    @castellanosberas11 ай бұрын

    Check out OTHER Japan makers especiallly microbands. Awsome for the price.

  • @WNYfellow
    @WNYfellow3 ай бұрын

    Your list is of some interest to me - because I have a Hamilton Khaki and a Bulova Aerojet (quartz) - happy with both. BTW, Bulova does have some real crap - but there are some real nice, clean designs in the haystack; you have to look (even scouring Chrono24 for discontinued models).

  • @barryvercueil2346
    @barryvercueil2346 Жыл бұрын

    Good video. Of all these i only don't own an Apple and a Christopher Ward. I'm saving up for a CW. I personally respect the technology that CITIZEN use. But the name and font bores me to death. Cheers.

  • @setahr
    @setahr3 ай бұрын

    Thats a ridiculous list, I am sorry. Disagree with almost every position

  • @scottsj4625
    @scottsj4625 Жыл бұрын

    Good video. Not an easy one to make as much is subjective. I agree with Casio being one of the best bang-per buck watch maker. I have 9 gshocks. I love how light they are and also how rugged they are. Most are easy to swap batteries on the non-solar models. I have some of each. I also stopped buying Seiko watches a few years ago. The prices on many are insane and even 1000 dollar seiko divers have QC problems. Most have crappy bracelets too.

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    Жыл бұрын

    Can’t beat Casio and ya Seiko prices and nuts and QC is still mediocre.

  • @kerryjgee

    @kerryjgee

    Жыл бұрын

    seiko bracelets are a joke. shame because the watches are good

  • @nateb9768

    @nateb9768

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@JustBlueFish I've owned multiple apple watches and absolutely hate planned obsolescence. Apple doesn't even care about cresting long lasting products that work. They just expect you to come back and spend more money to get something that works in the moment which seems to be a practice that doesn't have the consumers' best interests at heart.

  • @markoni5616
    @markoni5616 Жыл бұрын

    Citizen make alot of decent mechanical watches and their 9 series of movements are more accurate than seiko

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s not a high bar, Seiko movements are the worst.

  • @markoni5616

    @markoni5616

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JustBlueFish true. But high enough to move them above seiko

  • @FelNiode
    @FelNiode Жыл бұрын

    Citizen Tsuyosa is a great mechanical watch IMHO.

  • @aubsta1
    @aubsta1 Жыл бұрын

    I guessed Zelos as the second S-tier watch (watch company)

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    Жыл бұрын

    That would be a good one but I’m not sure I’d go S, maybe A tho.

  • @BenNS1971
    @BenNS1971 Жыл бұрын

    Swatch Group didn´t even exist when SSIH (witch omega was a part of) merged with ASUAG (e.g. Longines). Did you know ETA invented the swatch movement?

  • @ignaciogasparvazquezbambil8230
    @ignaciogasparvazquezbambil823010 ай бұрын

    Good tier list, Walter White!

  • @MrZanzibar123
    @MrZanzibar123 Жыл бұрын

    No Zelos? That's a big omission. Halios? Farer? Even San Martin? (I also disagreed with a lot off your list, but I enjoyed the provocative video!)

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    Жыл бұрын

    Can’t include them all in the video, there’s only so much time.

  • @Dialandhands

    @Dialandhands

    Жыл бұрын

    They’re still a microbrand tho. All of the ones on this list are readily available. The difficulty of buying most zelos watches and the limited number makes it hard to put them on big lists like this. They’re fantastic for the price but good luck getting one of them.

  • @MrZanzibar123

    @MrZanzibar123

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Dialandhands You might be thinking of Halios, which is genuinely hard to buy. Zelos usually has a particular variant or two of each model see out instantly, but the other variants take a couple hours or even days or weeks. (There are still some left from the last drop, e.g.). So as long as you are there at release (which is announced and scheduled about a week ahead of time) it's not actually difficult to get one.

  • @MrZanzibar123

    @MrZanzibar123

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Dialandhands Zelos is easy to get, as I explained. Same with Farer. Only tough one is Halios.

  • @Dialandhands

    @Dialandhands

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MrZanzibar123 nope zelos. They’re not hard to get they just sell out and you have to wait for the upcoming releases and if you didn’t buy the colorway you wanted it most likely won’t come back on a following release. The brands on this list you can buy pretty much any budget model at any time.

  • @Valera_Scotland
    @Valera_Scotland Жыл бұрын

    To me, Casio is the ONLY brand i will buy, while I save for an Omega Aqua Terra 1st gen/ current Rolex Explorer 36mm... Honestly, (to me) everything else is pretty pointless. No need to waste money, when Casio gives such fun for so little cash. I speak from experience having sold a few Hamiltons and a seiko turtle. Save your money while you save for something really decent. Go Casio (Currently wear the w86 and G shock 5600e) P.s. obviously to many people, something like a Hamilton or a Seiko is a great watch for life. Nothing wrong with that at all, but I've owned a few Omegas and an IWC, and i think it's worth putting all the money you would have spent on dozens of average watches into something iconic. P.s.2 if i never had more than £1000 in my life to spend on a watch, it would be 100% Hamilton khaki mechanical field... greatest watch for that price

  • @MrLeandroRJ
    @MrLeandroRJ11 ай бұрын

    I loved the way you organized the video, but you need to do some digging before making comments that looks like you don’t know what you are talking about. Citizen makes a lot of mechanical watches, including some exported to the USA market.

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @antevrankovic4539
    @antevrankovic45392 ай бұрын

    AGREE for CASIooooooooooooooooo!

  • @andal7404
    @andal74047 ай бұрын

    I think Bremont got lost in the list here. The 37 solo is beautiful.

  • @teenagedoctor
    @teenagedoctor11 ай бұрын

    I do have Seiko sarb line (017, 033,035), they get more value overtime, they are like S Rank for me but other seiko's lines are trash. BTW never consider a smartwatch is a watch! They are junk, their value drops over time. Apple watch is a non-rank here.

  • @MarkM58
    @MarkM58 Жыл бұрын

    1. I definitely feel you should have put SEIKO on the S list. No watch brand has the cult following SEIKO has, other than maybe Casio/ G-Shock. Orient is good but doesn't belong above SEIKO...hell, SEIKO owns them. 2. You are absolutely right about the Apple Watch. Apple figured out how to bridge the socio-economic divide. Everyone from celebrities to bus boys wear Apple Watches. For those that say it isn't a real watch, what did they say when G-Shock came out with its electronics, etc. It doesn't have a movement in it. I think you got all the rest in the right spots.

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    Жыл бұрын

    Constant QC issue, poor movements and up market pricing keeps Seiko WAY outside of S tier for me. It’s bordering on “do not buy” status for those reasons - despite the brand history and heritage as well as all of the cool designs and models.

  • @goldenarm009

    @goldenarm009

    Жыл бұрын

    Poor movements? They revolutionized affordable GMT’s, and every darn micro brand in existence uses their NH35. Sounds like I’m a Seiko fanboy and I’m not, just trying bring you back to the middle on this issue cause you’ve gone off the deep end. “DO NOT BUY” the most affordable GMT auto ever made. Ok guy

  • @goldenarm009

    @goldenarm009

    Жыл бұрын

    Sorry if that came across rude, I’m not that worked up over it and I respect that you have a different opinion. This is a fun list and got me talking watches for a few minutes while I’m supposed to be working, which I def appreciate lol.

  • @MarkM58

    @MarkM58

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JustBlueFish I understand your points, BUT, I have 8 SEIKO divers and none have the QC issues some complain about. As for accuracy, mine are all in specs. If SEIKO movements were so bad, they wouldn't be in so many other watches. A major selling point for them is that they have the NH-35 A movement in them. It is a workhorse movement. Easy to service or replace. One agreement is SEIKO bracelets suck. I put Strapcode on mine. I also agree they are getting greedy with their pricing.

  • @ing.jorgealecpoumianmadrid7994

    @ing.jorgealecpoumianmadrid7994

    11 ай бұрын

    @@JustBlueFish Agree a 100%, got into real watches around 4 years ago and bought my first Seiko, was impressed and actually Im wearing right at this moment but bought another one which is more expensive and I was truly dissapointed, came kinda faulty out of the box, the looks do not match the price and now the date function broke; with that amount I could have bought a not so expensive Tissot or an Orient with a sapphire crystal. Good watches but I think they abuse the heritage to up the prices..

  • @gunner9010
    @gunner90106 ай бұрын

    Deep Blue $100ish 44mm NATO diver, Islander $300ish.

  • @bowlesgarden499
    @bowlesgarden4997 ай бұрын

    Del Griffith agrees with you....."It's a Casio"

  • @tancreddehauteville764
    @tancreddehauteville76411 ай бұрын

    Seiko is a mid-range brand, moving to upper mid-range, definitely not an 'affordable' brand. Orient IS an affordable watch brand, though few of their watches appeal to me. Also, Orient watches feel cheap and not very well built. Citizen eco-drive quartz watches are great, but their automatic watches, certainly the better ones, are mostly Japan domestic market only. Casio is a 'love it or hate it' brand - I mostly hate them. I have never liked digital, even back in the 80s when these watches were all the rage. Also, Casio watches often feel plasticky and bargain basement. Hamilton is mid-range, definitely not bargain basement! Many of their watches exceed $1k in MSRP. But the quality is excellent and the watches usually very accurate, which is a surprise. Tissot are similar to Hamilton, but designs are often not great, Mido and Certina likewise. I don't think you can differentiate much between these three brands. Christopher Ward are definitely OK, but a lot of their designs are boring, and prices have been creeping up, so not really 'affordable'. Vostok is a junk brand, simple as that - I would put them in the Chinese multi-brand bracket. Surprised that Shinola isn't mentioned - sure they are fairly expensive, but I would put them in the 'C' bracket. Apple watches? NO WAY! I don't consider them as watches, not proper watches at least. Sorry, they DO NOT belong in ANY watch list. Apple watches are wrist computers - end of.

  • @canadianwatchmonkey3992
    @canadianwatchmonkey39928 ай бұрын

    Citizen eco drive line is top quality

  • @jakubklein
    @jakubklein Жыл бұрын

    I think you are not giving citizen due credit, their sporty/dressy NB1060-12L is out of this world

  • @NaNByZero
    @NaNByZero23 күн бұрын

    Citizen are of course B. But they should reside ahead Seiko. I love my quartz Promaster. Oh, and I love my Seiko Turtle. Misaligned and I will have to regulate it one day. Eighteen seconds minus and 1.0 beat error. Will do it when my double domed sapphire crystal arrives. And my Tissot Seastar 1000 is D. Which is embarrassing. My worst dive watch. My Orient Bambino and my Orient Defender are cool. My Certina is way ahead of my Fossil. My Casios are great but quartz mostly. I like my G-Steel analog. Although it is very big and heavy. My Vostok Amphibia is a good watch but in terms of quality it is a D. 🕐⚙️🍸

  • @vittoriorapizza2279
    @vittoriorapizza2279 Жыл бұрын

    My Fossil is 32 years and counting. Never serviced. How many watches can say that? As another viewer said, Fossil is underrated.

  • @SomoyerGhori
    @SomoyerGhori11 ай бұрын

    I stopped when this guy said citizen does not make mechanical watches 😂.My dude lives in Mars😅

  • @MadMax76er
    @MadMax76er Жыл бұрын

    The Citizen NJ0150 Tsuyosa is mechanical

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks haven’t seen those yet they look cool.

  • @chriskelly509
    @chriskelly5097 күн бұрын

    Casio is the Toyota of watches

  • @torgomax
    @torgomax Жыл бұрын

    Orient Monarch 👀✔

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @yosefortez4009
    @yosefortez40095 ай бұрын

    Garmin enters the chat...

  • @legokingiscool
    @legokingiscool10 ай бұрын

    No seiko? Casio and Seiko should be S

  • @johanvandersandt8904
    @johanvandersandt89047 ай бұрын

    My Citizen's have treated me better than other people Hamilton's have treated them. They have superb mechanical watches but they do focus on Eco-Drive more. I agree with most of your list but Citizen should be higher. I think you are being hard on Timex as well... I know guys that have done tours with theirs and they are still working. If we are doing smart watches you should have put Garmin and Suunto on here as well.

  • @atahanyldrm1926
    @atahanyldrm192610 ай бұрын

    I think Citizen should be A tier. Their Solar watches are amazing for the price, other brands are more expensive due to mechanical movements. Mechanical watches are just overhyped at this point. Solar is more convinient to use. Also I think Tissot is the best entry swiss brand so it should definitely be at the A tier.

  • @AvroBellow
    @AvroBellow4 ай бұрын

    The Seastar 1000 is "meh" but the Seastar 2000 is miind-blowing.

  • @emreisiklar
    @emreisiklar11 ай бұрын

    I used to buy every new Seiko, now saving for Tudor

  • @user-dy8cb4kr1p
    @user-dy8cb4kr1pАй бұрын

    Is Apple even a watch? Fossil on the same lines with bulova certina & mido, better than boctok? Is this guy insane? Sorry sir, but I had to speak this way, coming straight from my heart

  • @underachievingwatchcollect1878
    @underachievingwatchcollect1878 Жыл бұрын

    I have a Garmin dive computer that’s also a watch-Garmin deserves a mention 😎! Spot on with the list.

  • @craigd10
    @craigd103 ай бұрын

    Yes, the G-shock is awesome, but one model isn't enough to elevate an entire brand so Casio belongs in your A tier. Hamilton, Seiko, Mido, Christopher Ward, and Tissot definitely belong in the S tier. You penalized them for cost because you have misinterpreted their market tier. They are more expensive than other "affordable" tiers because they're really closer to bordering entry level luxury in terms of build and movement quality. They're not intended to compete with the likes of Timex, Citizen, and Bulova. They're a cut above. That's why their prices can reach into low 4 figures. I'm not going to even comment on you including the Apple watch in the discussion.

  • @jehru2800
    @jehru280011 ай бұрын

    Seiko should be A. How do you have Fossil on the list and not have Invicta? I don't like either one but they ARE AFFORDABLE

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    11 ай бұрын

    I have fossil and not invicta because I can't put everything on the list, or the video would be 3 hour long. Just because a brand isn't included, doesn't mean they don't belong on the list - I'm pretty sure I mentioned that. This isn't the 15 BEST brands, it's just 15 brands ranked. We could have ranked 100 brands given enough time.

  • @rtwoods
    @rtwoods Жыл бұрын

    Tissot and swatch on the same tier?! Yeah you're a joke lol

  • @JustBlueFish

    @JustBlueFish

    Жыл бұрын

    For different reasons, yes.

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