For those wondering...yes the Filippo finally arrived 😂😂 stay tuned for that video!

@VintageInvicta

3 жыл бұрын

Invicta is even above God tier! 😏

@justme7920

3 жыл бұрын

Make sure to wear the £18 suit in that video!

@gavindalziel9022

3 жыл бұрын

F**k me! Can't wait😆

@seanlawrence7340

3 жыл бұрын

Jesus!! Its only taken about 5 months

@gamesetmatt23

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds to me like someone at Filippo HQ stumbled upon your video and thought, 'gee, maybe we should send this guy his watch?' 😏

That’s a clickbait thumbnail if I’ve ever seen one 😂 I came here fuming

@Theking196

2 жыл бұрын

Same

@se7ense7ens37

2 жыл бұрын

SAME HERE I WAS BOUT TO THROW HANDS

@blackdragon44

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that tier list had me pissed

@lone_007

2 жыл бұрын

Same bro

@cheesefarmer3545

2 жыл бұрын

@@se7ense7ens37 yeah, nobody talks smack about casio!

I got so triggered when i saw Casio D Tier in the thumbnail

@obey_these_nuts_

3 жыл бұрын

fuckin same

@obey_these_nuts_

3 жыл бұрын

Clickbait af

@dondon1817

3 жыл бұрын

Me too, casio is still the best when it comes to quality compared to mvmnt and Daniel wellington

@bmwdagang

3 жыл бұрын

Wanted to punch the man thorough the screen

@7itese840

3 жыл бұрын

I know clearly that he didn’t mean it, but it feels triggered to be deceived.

Citizen, Orient, Seiko, G-Shock and Lorus should be a solid S. The japanese brands are so competitive in the quality items.

@taz24787

Жыл бұрын

YEAP

@MrHotjag

Жыл бұрын

Bulovas are decent

@pjfsr7024

Жыл бұрын

Meh...I had 2 Seikos, first one went in twice for repair on a third trip I demanded a replacement, died a year later, never bought another Seiko. Had a G-shock, the band turned color and broke, replaced the band a year later stop charging, never bought another G-shock. Yet my 2 Timex' s are still going strong; one is 15 year old the other only a week old. My 2 YO Armitron is also working well.

@VihaanBelani

Жыл бұрын

​@@pjfsr7024 how the hell did you manage to break a G-Shock ? 😅

@pjfsr7024

Жыл бұрын

@@VihaanBelani I didn't physically break it, It stopped charging.

Citizen and Seiko need to go up to "S". They both do a fantanstic job within the quartz chronograph sector with many sub $200 offerings that look nice and are extremely reliable, and Seiko's NH35/36 is practically the foundation of the budget automatic market.

@saivishwath3773

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but for what they ask they don't even give a sapphire crystal. You get the HaRdLeX which is apparently wayyyyyyyy better than mineral. So Seiko is where it should be. But the watches themselves are really good.

@mytuberforyou

Жыл бұрын

@@saivishwath3773 It's not all about the crystal though is it? Consider the Omegas and Rolexes with plastic that sell for tens of thousands? I have only one work watch (Citizen) that I have had to replace a crystal on, it was dragged across a stucco wall, having the crystal replaced by a Citizen authorized service place was about $35.

@Ryan-py1yo

Жыл бұрын

@@saivishwath3773 where in the world are you gonna find a sapphire for 200 bucks? The fact that Seiko offers a proprietary crystal harder than mineral which you usually get at that price range is just another plus for them.

@hypersynesthesia

Жыл бұрын

@@saivishwath3773 if you go a little over that price point in the sales you can get a sapphire crystal. I picked up Citizen’s radio-controlled Perpetual Chrono A-T for about £270 in the sale a few years back, with sapphire crystal.

@dave-ld8mo

Жыл бұрын

@@hypersynesthesia The same applies for Seiko though. Got myself a Seiko Solar SNE523P1 with sapphire glas on sale for 116 € (they retail price is about 220). There are actually plenty of saphir glas options from Seiko at that pricepoint. Although it is kind of an either automatic movement with hardlex glass or quartz/solar movement with sapphire glass decision.

This is some triggering clickbait 😆

Orient, Seiko , Citizen , Casio are all s tier for god's sake!

@peltotalo

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely

@Notorious544d

3 жыл бұрын

@Frank Andreas Bauer No, just no

@alexiracheta995

3 жыл бұрын

This is the way

@garethcollocott6310

3 жыл бұрын

Yip you are right on that!

@alexanderblack6619

3 жыл бұрын

@@Notorious544d let me guess, you wear a 150 dollar dress watch to your minimum wage job?

Citizen is definitely on par with Seiko, Casio and all. Being from India i have an, added respect for them, as they help build the first indigenous watch company in India called HMT, in 1961. HMT made very high quality mechanical and quartz watches. Mechanical watches were based on citizens parashock design. HMTs calibre 0231 is fabled for it's robustness. These watches keep on running! I have my grandfather's 50 year-old HMT mechanical watch and it still works flawlessly!

@KNuckleZification

Жыл бұрын

Yeah man, I love Citizen. They're such classic watches for damn good prices.

@daveyboy6985

Жыл бұрын

@@KNuckleZification one thing I've noticed with Citizen compared to Seiko , is that citizen have better quality control, when it comes to the assembly of their watches.

@Drhomelander

Жыл бұрын

The problem with citizen is the models they have are not so nice and also the quartz models are trash. I was looking for a descent everyday watch and i ended buying a casio edifice over a citizen watch just because of the specs. My watch has a screw down crown and also a screw down cover, the citizen watch i wanted has none of that. Maybe the automatic citizen watches are another story.

@BosonCollider

Жыл бұрын

@@Drhomelander The Citizen quartz watches do quietly work for 20 years without any required maintenance though. But Casio is a god-tier affordable brand.

@impact0r

Жыл бұрын

@@Drhomelander What are you smoking? Citizen's quartz watches are some of the best in the world, alongside Casio and Breitling. Quartz is the thing Citizen is best at.

I have a soft spot for Fossil, when I decided to be more dapper and less slobbish in my appearance in my mid 30's. Among the first items I bought, along with a Brown pair of chukka boots and a Navy Blazer was a Rose Gold Fossil Grant Chronograph with a blue dial and brown leather straps, and these 3 items became my foundation items for well over a year. It was the watch that got me back into all things watches. Sure, the watch isn't anything special, but it's one of the core items that I will always look back fondly on.

Ben: Dropping Seiko because they don't advertise Also Ben: Dropping Vincero for advertising

@OfficialJamesGardner

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao exactly. I honestly thing Vincero are B tier. Albeit bottom of B but B nonetheless. What do you think?

@olivermj69

2 жыл бұрын

@@OfficialJamesGardner nahh, if Vincero would be B, then Seiko shoukd be S+. Vincero is nowhere near Timex

@nganthony8646

2 жыл бұрын

@@olivermj69 I agree. I think Vincero at bottom of C was already generous.

@iamthelaw69

2 жыл бұрын

Seiko dropping because of poor advertising is justified. Seiko admitted it themselves that their market share is eroding partly because of it.

@sagardimdung7909

2 жыл бұрын

@@OfficialJamesGardner did buy one? hahaha

Citizen is not on the same level as Invicta, Timex or Nixon! :) Citizen is way better and deserves an A. ;)

@NathanChisholm041

3 жыл бұрын

This list is a train wreck!

@Aaron-fb1pq

3 жыл бұрын

Nixon's poop I've had 3 of them

@ericmittens

3 жыл бұрын

Citizen is the worlds biggest watch company with zero iconic models. They are the king of buying up shitter watch brands (bulova, Frederic constant). Best thing they do is the Miyota 9000 movement series which gives sub $1000 watches a decent 28k auto movement.

@NathanChisholm041

3 жыл бұрын

@@ericmittens Are you serious? Citizens are awesome so are Bulova. I think you have been watching too many shitty Archie the numbnut watch rants!!

@john-tomlinson

3 жыл бұрын

I thought both Citizen and Timex should be higher. Timex seems slightly overpriced for what you get in terms of specs, but have massive brand heritage and some amazingly good designs. The Navi Harbor watches are really classic.

I appreciate that if you go for something like a Seiko or Orient, it can look impressive to most untrained eyes, but it can even get the nod of approval from those who know their watches, unlike the heavily-marketed fashion watch brands.

@TheFlyingFishy

4 ай бұрын

Just ordered my first Orient Star :D Ive been a Seiko fan since i was a kid. My dad wore them and still does ;)

My first watch as an adult was a Fossil. I really enjoyed it and it was quality enough to be happy for 4 years with no other watch, but i have moved on. Watches at just a slightly higher price are a big leap in quality.

@grantsmith3843

Жыл бұрын

Still have my Fossil 'Big Tick' which I bought in Rotterdam over 20 years ago... and it's going strong.

@afz3003

Жыл бұрын

Same the first watch I bought for myself was a Skagen watch from Fossil.

@alizarkami6187

Жыл бұрын

I have a Fossil I bought 8 years ago, and indeed still going strong

@m.r.2718

Жыл бұрын

I also have two Fossils, they're pretty good (for the price). I would've put it in the B-category tbh

@johnkathon

Жыл бұрын

@@grantsmith3843I have one of those too, how do you like yours?

I disagree with Citizen at B tier. I can understand they barely have any offerings for smaller wrists but their eco-drive movement will outlive you and it will keep perfect time. Great vid btw

@jmsantiago1

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikedandurand3548 I also have girly wrists, slimmer than his actually. And Citizen is 99% of the time a no go for me but I still appreciate their quality and reliability of their watches.

@mikedandurand3548

3 жыл бұрын

I agree and please forgive my surly comment. Had a bad day and was grouchy but no excuse for that comment.

@jmsantiago1

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikedandurand3548 it's all good no offense taken, you have a good day sir!

citizen should be in class, A ... it is definitely better than NIXON and others...

@armandr1613

3 жыл бұрын

Is it though...

@beaujpatt

3 жыл бұрын

@@armandr1613 have a look at the black pro master tough. Great watch

@e28forever30

3 жыл бұрын

I am surprised at the low ranking Citizen receives. I have owned 4 Seiko watches, ranging from 200€ to 720€, and only one was faultless. Bezel alignment, chapter ring alignment, badly regulated movement.. Not to mention their cheap stamped clasps... I own one Citizen, the bn0150-61e, and it is a great watch. Quality control is spot on, fit and finish is faultless, accuracy is astonishing. Citizen beats Seiko in value for money and should rank much higher.

@MrKinghuman

3 жыл бұрын

Hey, I love my nixon. Gunmetal sentry, I quite enjoy it

@targasantoso4131

3 жыл бұрын

My promaster will sad

I found a Timex watch that I fell in love with, it's the Timex Expedition Scout 40 Indiglo. Love this thing. Fun Fact: in season 1 and 2, Richard Dean Anderson wore that watch in MacGyver.

@Bpf1893

Жыл бұрын

Love the looks of that watch

@pjfsr7024

11 ай бұрын

I have 2 Scouts, one I just broke the stem off hitting a door frame, it's 15+ YO ( still working), I just bought a second one same model; I expect to get just as long a life as long as I don't hit a door frame at the wrong angle.

@Inv1cto

7 ай бұрын

I've got one too! Love it.

Timex deserves A tier at least. The fact that you said they are bringing more people to like watches gives them a lot of solid ground on A tier. They have been around for almost 200 years and they make very stylish watches that don't cost an organ. The Easy Reader is as iconic as the Alarm Chrono from Casio too being a popular choice for guys who want to have a more formal time piece in their wardrobe.

@InterestingTed

Жыл бұрын

Agreed! Timex is my favorite, having owned both S and many As on this list.

@macvos

Жыл бұрын

They really are an historic brand, although my only Timex watch died within 2 years. It was a mechanical one though, probably using a cheap Chinese movement. Their quartz watches are probably a lot more reliable.

Citizen should be higher in my experience, the Eco-Drive is a tank of a movement.

@johnbewty

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. The WORST thing you can say about Citizens is that they tend to be kind of boring, design-wise. But they have a lot of nice designs too. And they're tanks.

@ocb05

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. They might not S tiers in design But for their eco drive models they can be S or A tiers

@afcortesr

3 жыл бұрын

I have a few Citizen watches and would definitely get some more, the Promaster Eco drive range is a nice looking diver in my opinion

@lewisprice-nutman6974

3 жыл бұрын

Yes citizens are bulletproof i know probably 5 or 6 people who have worn theirs daily since the 90s and are still going - I have had 3 in the last year or two and the qc and specs are great for the price - the best watch you can buy and wear for 20 years without touching

@Tobiemoss

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but its an old mans watch with hideous styling.

This guy ranked invicta up there with Citizen !!!!!! As you Brits say “ are you daft?!”.

@Zoltan1251

3 жыл бұрын

he completely forgot about their pricing!!!!!.. no doubt D tier rip off

@louiscyfer6944

3 жыл бұрын

i have invicta and citizen in the s tier.

@erica.5620

3 жыл бұрын

No he didn't?

@justinweisberg1634

3 жыл бұрын

Invicta isn’t as bad as everyone says they are. I have a few and I love them. Just not the super oversized ugly ones.

@MrBenben135

3 жыл бұрын

As a brush

Seiko and Citizen have a long history and they make some solid watches, they definitely needs to be on the top.

I've had several Citizen and Seiko watches. To say they are below Casio is very, very strange. For me, Citizen and Seiko are top quality and highly respected watch brands

Not bad on the ranking. However, Seiko is "S". They are one of the most important watch companies of all time and offer a wide variety of choices for all budgets. No question on Casio as the best bang for the buck. Cheers!

@Naptosis

3 жыл бұрын

The only issue I have with Seiko is their dial alignment issues, which are unacceptable when the watches are created by machines IMHO.

@youareprobablycorrect3898

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely!

@Tobiemoss

3 жыл бұрын

Casios are like £500 now. An Orient Kamasu is like half that.

@Naptosis

3 жыл бұрын

@@Tobiemoss Well, they range from £15 to £1,500 (I'm wearing a £500 Casio as I type this) but the higher priced pieces are generally anniversary or special material editions. The standard editions, and the Orient Kamasu are all great value for money. I'd love to own an Orient.

@henryettoit897

3 жыл бұрын

seiko is not S anymore. The new seikos are too expensive to be S. Orient is definately S.

Dude why you gotta do citizen like that :(

@lewisprice-nutman6974

3 жыл бұрын

Its brutal - Citizen are a tier in my opinion

@limacuan

3 жыл бұрын

Yea they're definitely an A in my personal collection, their QC and overall packaging is excellent but even here in Malaysia Orient has a larger following amongst watch enthusiasts.

@alexlilano1931

3 жыл бұрын

@@lewisprice-nutman6974 A is fair.

@andyfin8845

3 жыл бұрын

I think it is just his opinion so respect that but , my opinion is he has no clue on watches , soon he could be a new watch blogger , let’s see

@watchandjewelryloft4713

3 жыл бұрын

I do watch repair. I definitely facepalmed his Citizen placement. Ridiculous.

You lost me by putting Citizen so low, and below Casio ... surely you can't be serious.

I have a Citizen Eco-Drive CC9015-54E GPS watch. It is hands-down the best watch I have ever owned. Of course, I know it cost quite a lot more than the more affordable watches you review, Rob, but it's nowhere near Rolex, Breitling or Omega-level cost. Yet, because of GPS synch, it is always correct to the very second, doesn't need the battery changing because of the Eco-Drive movement, and because it has a titanium case and bracelet and sapphire crystal, it looks as good as new after 5 years of daily wear, and it has an "align" feature where, if a hand is out of alignment, the wearer can make micro-adjustments to realign the hands, all without stripping down the movement or even opening the case. Horses for courses, I suppose.

@martonmehesi-melis5072

2 жыл бұрын

That might be true, but is costs more than a mechanical Tissot PRX

Seiko should be in S, tons of history, still a full in house movement and watch. And a full range within their company from 100 to 100k.

@hgr.7857

2 жыл бұрын

💯

@shyguy.654

Жыл бұрын

Seiko is legendary. I was chocked it was not s tier.

@dan3458

Жыл бұрын

@@shyguy.654 absolutely chocking!

@williamlee9135

Жыл бұрын

Seiko is the only movement that can’t be replicated. Should be in the God tier. Also do A+ watches.

@erabhikdasgupta

Жыл бұрын

For less than 200 usd. Most feature packed ones are atleast 350 usd.

Citizen should have gone in the A tier...a very underrated brand.

@zogzog1063

3 жыл бұрын

Citizen should be top of the A List

@henryviiifake8244

3 жыл бұрын

Casio is an _easy_ God-tier.

@juniorjohnson5961

3 жыл бұрын

I agree I've got Rolex and Omega and like Citizen just as much for the money it's the best I own

@justinlarsen2281

3 жыл бұрын

Bought myself a citizen to celebrate my 5 year anniversary at my job. When I hit 10 years I saved up to buy something high end, but was so happy with my Citizen I just bought another and put the rest in savings.

@donquique1

3 жыл бұрын

Citizen was the first manufacturer that could mass produce titanium watches. Casio or seiko do not have the eco drive technology. It is just amazing. I have 3 of them and will buy more in the future.

With Fossil I would recommend the Rhett chronograph, it's much better for skinny people. Even though the brand seems heavily criticized, I really loved mine in middle school. I once imagined one watch in my head before knowing of the brand's existence and I saw that watch at an outlet store. Black and gold, black band, caught a lot of people's attention in middle and high school, then the band fell apart 5-6 years later, I miss wearing the thing. Even though my bias is for other reasons.

Hi Ben. As others have pointed out, if this were my list I would definitely put Citizen in the S tier. I have two in my collection and both have been bulletproof. Well made, great quality and no alignment issues whatsoever. Both mine are lumed (one of them is a Promaster Diver, the other a Field Watch) and they are up there with the best of 'em. Very good indeed. I'm temted by Orient as a brand but would not put them in the S tier since there is no service (and therefore aftersales) network in the UK. Shame. Great video as always 👍

I personally feel offended about Citizen, I've had a citizen watch since I was extremely young and it has stuck with me for a long time. I'd say probably A tier at least, definitely miles above Invictia

@NathanChisholm041

3 жыл бұрын

Don't worry mate he hasn't a clue! If its isn't girl size he hates them.

@Ratselmeister

2 жыл бұрын

He could buy the women versions

@blackhandofset

2 жыл бұрын

My Citzen Promaster Diver has ruined every other watch. Nothing beats it

@zoel86

2 жыл бұрын

@@blackhandofset same with me. i have the citizen promaster pepsi diver automatic and i love it.

@khalbar8935

2 жыл бұрын

S bro s tier

Seiko and G-Shock are the most widely respected affordables in all of watchdom. Making them below Orient and on par with Avi-8 is just weird

@Shabec2982

2 жыл бұрын

Yea, I felt the same way, it doesn’t make any sense.

@faizalakbar1660

2 жыл бұрын

me too come on.

@Amin2k

2 жыл бұрын

I have had a LOT of seikos and orients, and in THIS price category orient beats seiko no contest. When you take a bigger price category then seiko wins.

@Counz223

2 жыл бұрын

Orient > Seiko has gone a bit up market, Orient has taken over this space and quite convincingly too. Typically more accurate than equivalent Seikos and got sapphire crystal at unreal price points

@Orcanislupus

2 жыл бұрын

I thought G-Shocks were just tough Casios

Love your videos. I wanted to ask you about this company called Detomaso. Can you tell me anything about them. They are supposed to have a Seiko quarts movement. Model D02-16-26.Any thoughts?

Hi Ben, just watched your reviews on Daniel Wellington watches as I wanted to buy one however that’s no longer an option lol. I appreciate your honest review. What do you say about Tissot Everytime Small for women? Is it a good watch ? Thank you xx

You could easily make a tier list with the AliExpress brands alone.

@henrikgostomski286

3 жыл бұрын

Heimdallr, Steeldive, Pagani, Sugess, Cadisen = God tier Those are the ones i've ordered watches from, rest seems either very pricey or trash. I'd love a video on that, too

@kheldaur2107

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. I'd like the JOMW dude to make this. He has a lot of experience with those.

@mikehatfield3561

3 жыл бұрын

Aliexpress no. I don’t want to give China any more money. Especially directly Personal preference

@nintendokings

3 жыл бұрын

@@henrikgostomski286 San Martin and Sea-Gull are S tier. The ones you mentioned are A or solid B imo

@GodIsInHisHeaven

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikehatfield3561 what difference, other than making yourself feel better, if your money goes to China directly or indirectly? Pretty much all your swiss/german watches are all manufactured in China with final QC or assembly in Switz/Germany.

Orient, in house movement, bright lume, my favorite brand.

@SillytanN

3 жыл бұрын

orient star seeker gmt... really unbeatable

@GodIsInHisHeaven

3 жыл бұрын

not to mention a lot of their watches just use mineral crystal

@andrewrobertson3894

3 жыл бұрын

What's the best daily from Orient for around $200?

@andrewrobertson3894

3 жыл бұрын

@@silverghost4206 Thanks, Anthony. I appreciate the detailed reply.

@verbalkint4258

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewrobertson3894 for around 200 bucks? The Kamasu is a great option. You can find the kamasu below 250 bucks in a lot of places, specifically ebay. The Kamasu is a steal. It has a sapphire crystal, above average movement, good finishing, lume, and 200 meters water resistance.

New to watches, and am currently rocking a Garmin forerunner 645 as my daily...the best looking watch by far that I've come across is the vincero chrono in gunmetal with brown straps..which then led me to your glowing reviews of vincero lol I am having trouble finding other mat/gunmetal gray watches that fit that style, any other recommendations under/around 200 US dollars?

I was once an admirer of fashion brands, thinking DW, Nixon were aspirational watches, until I discovered Ben and other reviewers, what an eye opener. I’m now aspiring to be an Hamilton owner.

@bassguitar1919

Жыл бұрын

i think Hamilton is my longer term goal right now as well....probably a jazz master. do you think they're probably the best value in the 500 to 700 USD range? Thanks! I'm a newbie.

@zethloveless7238

Жыл бұрын

@@bassguitar1919 depends what you want but is alot of good micro brands that seem to offer a lot for that price as well.

@hudsontoo1212

Жыл бұрын

I have a Khaki and I just love it. For the price I paid, it’s a super nice watch and I hope you’ll get a Hamilton- I doubt you will be disappointed:)

The thumbnail is the proof that MVMT is better than Rolex.

I would put Citizen in the A tier at least, maybe even S. Their Eco-Drive line is very innovative and they have amazing, feature packed models. They also have some amazing automatics, including their Pro Master divers. Overall, I think they offer excellent value for the price.

@dandc2011

2 жыл бұрын

Seriously, I feel personally attacked that he put *INVICTA* on the same level as Citizen...

@oing1800

2 жыл бұрын

Same here

@xxafrogamingproxx8013

2 жыл бұрын

Fuck that seiko ftw

@crusader5989

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah citizen should be up there with teh best, Seiko too.

@charlieanyon5523

2 жыл бұрын

I agree

My go-to everyday watch atm is a Rotary, and so far I’ve had absolutely no complaints. It works well, looks good, and I feel like I got a good quality automatic watch without having to pay through the nose for one. :)

The 2018 UK only Citizen Pro Master tough "Ray Mears" is glued to my wrist. A tank. Hitting the markers every time is extremely satisfying.

That thumbnail baited me so hard, ngl

"no where to chuck them (Daniel Wellington) other than d-tier" How about the trash can?

Citizen eco drive titanium watch is real nice. I've had one and wear it every day for the last 5 years with no problems. It's light weight and easy to read.

Calling Swatch a "bigger" brand is one hell of an understatement...

Putting citizen on B because of misalignment... at 100£ prices and putting seiko on A is just insulting. I’ve got a 650£ king turtle full of issues including misalignments... so yeah... placing citizen there... insulting

@e28forever30

3 жыл бұрын

True, Seiko is the king of lousy QC..

Have had multiple citizens, including one from the late 90s. Best watches ever. Never had alignment issues. Not one ever needed service. Quality for the money makes them my favorite brand. Idk how they could end up in B tier other than the creator just had very little experience with them. From the comments it seems most strongly disagree with this rating.

@super1234567891011

Жыл бұрын

I completely agree with you. I’m a huge fan of citizen.

@markymarknj

Жыл бұрын

I'm a HUGE Citizen fan! Own six of them; my collection is a mix of Navihawks, Nighthawks, and Skyhawks. I LOVE THEM! They offer great quality for the money. They're also innovators in the world of watchmaking; it was Citizen who brought out the quartz movement, titanium case, and solar power. They belong higher up on the list. Also, I think Swatch should be higher on the list. Though I wasn't a fan of their multicolored watches in the 1980s, they were unique, different, and fun. They also saved the Swiss watch industry; for that alone, they should be higher up!

@hypersynesthesia

Жыл бұрын

I love Citizen too. That said, I did have one where the eco-drive turned distinctly less than perpetual - I had to leave it in sunlight whenever not wearing it to maintain the charge, which isn’t how that’s meant to work. But I think that was an unfortunate blip. Overall they’re phenomenally durable, high on function, and good-looking with it.

@stuartr2764

Жыл бұрын

I really like Citizens too, for both design and quality. BUT, like the reviewer, my wrists are fairly slim and most Citizens are 41mm + case size - just too big for me, sadly. Wish they’d do some 37 or 38 mm case size watches.

@furtalance_x

Жыл бұрын

In my opinion Citizen is the poor mans Rolex. I absolutely love the brand. I have had 3 watches over the last 10 years and they are absolute show stoppers. I have never been complemented more on my citizen watches then I have been on any other brand (I own Seiko, Casio & Timez as well)

I love this kind of clear judging videos :) I own only one watch, a Citizen Eco-Drive from 2011 and I have to tell you that I can see a misalignment, you are absolutely right!

@mytuberforyou

Жыл бұрын

The main problem I have had with those is the "capacitor", I have some on their third.

@iancurrie8844

Жыл бұрын

It’s easy to micro adjust the alignment. Please see the manual.

Great framework! Would be great to see this also for other price ranges!

The only thing that offended me is where he put Citizen, Citizen Eco-Drives rule. Definitely A or S tier.

Citizen and Timex should be on the A tier. G-Shock & Seiko on the S teir.

@Jesusp898

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@Osama-Bon-Jovi-01

3 жыл бұрын

definitely

@RM-rv6hf

3 жыл бұрын

Strong agreed

@marianosoba2611

3 жыл бұрын

Clearly

@gagecreekmore1202

2 жыл бұрын

G shock 🤭

I bought a nice Citizen Ecosphere two years ago. I think the brand's natural tier is A. The watch is freaking awesome.

The top tier should be Seiko, Citizen, Orient, and Casio. Take a look at the tech behind Citizen's Eco Drive....it's pretty impressive!

Citizen, Casio and Seiko for me, in that particular order. Can't beat the Nippongang.

@noobfl

3 жыл бұрын

thats the holy trinity

@mylesgalos6465

3 жыл бұрын

Best value for the money

@user-ez5vq9fd2t

3 жыл бұрын

But no Orient, eh?

@megatremoloud8213

3 жыл бұрын

Put Orient along... and that's "The Four Horsemen" to me...

@macvos

Жыл бұрын

@@user-ez5vq9fd2t it is, but only if you value mechanical movements.

Citizen belongs in the A tier imho. There are tons of options at afforfable prices. I own 3 and none of them have misallignment issues and the build quality is superb. The lume on my diver's watch is spectacular to say the least. Try an eco-drive field watch BM8180-03E at 37mm, they are suited for smaller wrists.

@e28forever30

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, there is a big misconception on Citizen lume. A lot of reviewers state that the lume is good, but not at Seiko’s level. It is true that Seiko’s lumibrite initially glows brighter, but after a few hours there is no difference. After 8 hours of darkness, my Citizen Promaster bn0150 outshines my Seiko Turtle. JOMW pitched the Promaster against some tough competition in one of his “lume wars” episodes, and it easily won, even beating a Rolex...

My Voctok Scubaman had the smoothest second-hand sweep of any watch I've owned - absolutely hypnotic.

Hey, man. I really like your videoa and I'll like a part2 with more watches. Keep up the good work 🙌🏻

You did Citizen dirty!

@happyface4234

3 жыл бұрын

miyota movements are pretty solid

Being a Citizen fan boy, seeing it on B tier hurt me!

@scottiemcgee3838

2 жыл бұрын

@CarFreak I feel like actual watch enthusiasts would shit on that hot take.

@WatchUnwind

2 жыл бұрын

What are your thoughts on the new 6000 dollar citizen ?

Its interesting how personal experiences can shape the way you view brands... for example, the watch that got me obsessed was a vintage Bulova that my dad gave me, so as a consequence I have a love for pre-2008 Bulova watches. Where as every d-bag and their brother had a Nixon growing up and I just associate the brand with absolute classlessness

@fran2911

7 ай бұрын

This is precisely the reason luxury car brands don't sell to just anybody

Nice video Ben! I personally would have put Seiko and Citizen in the S category, and probably G-Shock as well. These are iconic Japanese brands who have made significant innovations in watch making. Yes, they all miss the mark on occasion, however; Seiko- first Asian watch to get a chronometer certification by the Swiss, Citizen- first solar watch and largest watch company in the world, G-Shock's anti-shock case design, etc. By the way, I'm not sure they still make them, but there used to be a Baby-G, G-Shock watch that was only about 40mm or smaller. And Citizen does make small case sizes then 42 mm. I own several, including the perpetual time Calabre (not sure I spelled this right...deal with it!). Great video!

As a Seikoholic I am disturbed that they were not placed at S tier. C'mon who else makes everything in house and have made huge innovations over the years? Also Citizen needs to be bumped up also.

@henryettoit897

3 жыл бұрын

seiko is not S anymore. The new seikos are too expensive to be S. Orient is definately S.

@henryettoit897

3 жыл бұрын

look at the 5KX vs the orient kamasu. Not even a fight

@mrbacchus6127

3 жыл бұрын

@@henryettoit897 He already had Orient at S tier so they don't need to be moved up. Think about how many people over the years started the hobby because of the skx and how many high end collections still have one as a beater. I started out with the Mako 1 but prefer the skx. Currently the Kamasu is better than a Seiko 5.

@mrbacchus6127

3 жыл бұрын

Respectfully disagree. When I can buy a brand new (real) divers Save the Ocean Turtle on ebay right now for $295 it still fits S tier.

@henryettoit897

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrbacchus6127 BRO the save the ocean turtle still comes on hardlex lmao. Even even a $75 pagani design gives you saphhire. Its not about seiko in the past but seiko now. Kamasu literally gives you sapphire under $200. Seiko has been terrible with QC issues too, chapter ring misalignments and lousy bracelets . The SKX is overrated for what it is. 7s26 is notorious for being inaccurate and thats usually they 1st thing that gets replaced when people mod their SKX.

At 37.2mm, the Citizen Chandler field watch would be perfect for you Ben. Definitely A tier.

Hey Ben! What is your view on Luminox watches? I just bought a 3581 Navy Seal Blackout chronograph and I absolutely love it!!!!

i LOVEloveLOVE my two orient automatics!! also a huge swatch fan, since their beginning. thanks for this helpful list.

At least Citizen makes their own movements. A lot of these other brands use either a Miyota or a Seiko movement to power their automatic watches.

@madetech

3 жыл бұрын

Miyota is part of the citizen group that also includes Bulova. They developed so many different technologies it's crazy.

@vast634

2 жыл бұрын

Casio also uses some Citizen quartz movements in Edifice models. They usually perform more accurate than Casios own quartz.

@WatchUnwind

2 жыл бұрын

Citizen now had a 6000 dollar watch

@prod.deathwish

2 жыл бұрын

never knew that

@MrR2185

2 жыл бұрын

Orient is special too. Their mechanical movements are all in house. A rarity today. Other notable brands that are in house are Rolex and Omega and some of the super insane expensive brands like Patek lol.

You can’t go far wrong buying a watch from a company that actually makes watches.

@oscarbazlinton6742

2 жыл бұрын

exactly as long as it isnt a fasion watch it will be ok

And here in April 2022 I'm just catching up on this video and discovering more watch brands that I've never heard of before. Being a retired commercial (charter) pilot, I immediately was taken with the AVI-8 watches and so went straight over to their website and bought myself a new pilot's watch, even though I don't fly any more. Cheers Ben.

Do you have an NDA with any watch companies Ben?

Hard to beat Japan. Casio, Citizen, Seiko, Orient. Surprised you've had Citizen QC issues, they've always been great for me. A real sweet spot in the $200 range. Also surprised the DW-5600 isn't a good fit even on a slim wrist. They're supposed to be a bit large, but I think the square is very reasonable.

@hgr.7857

2 жыл бұрын

I have bird wrists¹ and the iconic DW 5600 looks & feels just right on me. I'm wearing mine right now. Some G-shocks are comically oversized (👀 Casioak), but the OG DW5600 is absolutely perfect (for me - it is subjective). It's a watch that doesn't wear as large as it measures. The octagonal, rounded square shape sits nicely where it should, on top of my arm where the bones meet, and the downward curving integrated lugs hug my wrist quite nicely. It's a classic & am icon for a reason. 💯 ¹Edit: 6.75" wrists, so I guess pretty avg., just always seemed slim compared to my more robust & durable arms & torso

@professorpick

Жыл бұрын

agree. I have sadly small wrists and the DW fits fine

@Prothomesh.

Жыл бұрын

if the dw5600 isnt for ur wrist try the gwm 5610 its a good watch very similar to dw 5600 bit more expensive than it bur its smaller than that.its also got solar power

I think citizen is higher in quality than Seiko when it comes to entry to mid range. Less quality control issue imo

@Walterliquori

3 жыл бұрын

you would be correct sir

@luisgarciamusicchannel

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, citizen echo drives blow seiko out the water. But you are correct, grand seikos and even the alpinist are very well crafted.

@ROrneli

2 жыл бұрын

People keep saying that about seiko but my bezel alligns and the only issue i got is a slightly grindy crown (when unscrewing) other than that no issues

@macvos

Жыл бұрын

@@ROrneli it's not like the majority of their watches have serious issues. It's just that a larger percentage of them do than they should, considering the history and know-how of Seiko.

I have a Citizen AT Blue Angel and it’s pretty technologically advanced for what you get. Set time zone, atomic clock sync, day of the week, battery charge, automatic date change, chrono and a whiz wheel. It’s great

@iancurrie8844

Жыл бұрын

This watch is outstanding. Definitely S tier.

does anyone know what model that timex with the blue dial is?

Crazy to see citizen so low. No way they’re on the same tier as invicta and nixon. Funny to see that’s what about 90% of the comments are about too, you know you fucked up man 😂

S tier: I agree with Casio & Orient, would put G-shock & Citizen here as well A tier and lower: yes I agree with you.

Loving the videos and would love to hear your opinion on Steeldive watches. I have the SD1954 and from what I can tell it has decent specs but only downside is the bracelet

Because I looked at a watch on eBay you tube and it's algorithm as put your channel in my you tube suggestions. And for once iam glad they did. Can't believe how confident and professional you are in front of the camera. Your reviews are precise honest and totally unbiased. I've subscribed and am currently going through your videos to pick out a new watch il be buying in a month or so... Brilliant work Ben 👍👍

Yes to that intro. Amazing.

I'm mostly a Seiko fan, but Citizen has been drawing my eye lately, especially if you go beyond the relatively boring selection of eco-drive models UK highstreet stores seem to stock, go online to their JDM models at a higher price point and they're amazing.

@Bemjji

3 жыл бұрын

Yea citizen is one I don’t agree with. Every Citizen I’ve had has been extremely high quality for the $$$. I really don’t think they’ve had mass quality control issues (at least not like seiko has, or so I hear.) To me, value for buck puts Citizen above Seiko on the list.

@alexandrupara4574

3 жыл бұрын

I still can't believe he put Citizen with Invicta. 😡

@MammothBehemoth

3 жыл бұрын

Citizen have "Asia-only or South-east-Asia-only" and "Japan-only" models, even limited models not sold anywhere else

@G1NZOU

3 жыл бұрын

Personally I'd rank Citizen the same as Seiko, they've got just as much expertise in trustworthy reliable quartz, and their mechanicals are precise and functional. Seiko has the edge in horological history due to being older and being the first to release a quartz wristwatch, as well as improving so rapidly in the Swiss trials. But Citizen still deserves a massive amount of respect for their approach to high quality watches. My favourite that I'll probably never get to own is the Titanium Caliber 0100 with mother of pearl dial, ±1 second per year and an amazing bracelet. While I'd love a spring drive too the Caliber 0100 seems like the gold standard in high precision quartz.

@G1NZOU

3 жыл бұрын

I think for me Citizen just has an even worse marketing (in the UK at least) and stocking issue than even Seiko, compared to the fashion brands. In stores like John Lewis I see a few cocktail times, a turtle, some samurai and a few different quartz models from Seiko but the selection in most shops of Citizen seem to be very bland looking eco-drive models. It's not necessarily even Citizen's fault but the selections shops choose to stock makes me realise why fashion brands like Micheal Kors and Armani Exchange sell so many watches.

I just started watching your videos and boy do I love the intros!

Hey Ben, hope you see this comment. It’s obvious you put a lot of effort in your videos, and it shows. Really well done; looking forward to seeing more.

Citizen is ranked too low. Their JDM models are much better and have smaller sizes. Also Lorus is a sub brand of Citizen.... Citizen has better quality control than Seiko nowadays.

@muhdasyraf1315

3 жыл бұрын

Agree

@watchandjewelryloft4713

3 жыл бұрын

Lorus is part of Seiko. Not Citizen.

@jasonschwartz8507

3 жыл бұрын

@@watchandjewelryloft4713 You're right my b

Casio, Orient, Seiko, Citizen would be S for me. As much as it pains me to say it, I think Invicta should be near the top of A tier. Their watches that aren’t ridiculously large and gaudy are honestly pretty great even though their pricing tactics are terrible.

@happyface4234

3 жыл бұрын

Not to mention, they also uses the nh35 movement.

@ChromeMan04

3 жыл бұрын

Are u kidding? They are so bad!

@ROrneli

2 жыл бұрын

the problem with invicta is their deceptive market practices ... "800 dollar retail now 100!" BS that really gets me. but invicta could be packed into many different companies in one.. some watches are very decent and even carry seiko or swiss movements but some are chinese crap.. as long as you know a bit about watches you can walk away with a nice invicta BUT you are problaly better off spending that money somewhere else like in Casio, Seiko ,Orient or Citizen to be fair or even a micro brand. Also invicta needs to chill with 5 atmosphere watches with helium release valves and quarts watches with exhibition backs honestly i think they prey on people with no to little watch knowladge ..

@colonelangus3826

2 жыл бұрын

@@ROrneli couldn’t agree more Robert. Their pricing tactics are horrible and they have some ridiculous watches. They prey on the uninformed but they have some real gems if you know what to look for!

@ROrneli

2 жыл бұрын

@@colonelangus3826 i think a lot about a watch is the name. Even if the watch itself is really nice it would still be stained by a name that would evoke laughter at parties and it would require for you to explain and try to defend your purchase.like buying real state in afghanistan. I mean if that does not bother you then yeah i agree.

The fact that the thumbnail said MVMT was god-tier had me ready to throw hands🤣

@WatchUnwind

2 жыл бұрын

Bro same. I don’t hate on a lot of brands but movement and Movado are the two that put fire in my eyes

@STAIND12300

2 жыл бұрын

@@WatchUnwind yeah and the fact he put citizen at the bottom made me question everything lol

I was curious about your comments regarding the alignment of Casios. I have a blue Duro, and the alignment of the bezel REFUSES to line up with 12:00. Could it be that US - bound Casios come from a different plant than UK - bound Casios? Thoughts Ben? Also, I just subscribed. Your cynicism matches my own - even though my first watch was a Loreti. 😮

@Jim-wr9iz

4 ай бұрын

PS, I was never fooled that it - the Loreti - was Italian. It was just an attractive watch - blue and gold moon phase w/blue leather strap - that matches my blue tungsten "The One Ring."

Great video mate. Didn’t know where to start when working out what brands to look at, this really helped. I already have a Citizen watch (bought for me) and it seems like a lot of people think that’s A class so that’s good. Looked into Orient, Seiko, Lorus and Casio/G-shock and see now why they’re so well thought. Bought a blue dial Orient AA02002D diving watch, a black dial Casio Edifice EFV-100D, a brown leather strap Lorus R3A61AX9 and a G-Shock GBA-800-1AER to start off my collection. These should give me a nice range of occasions to be able to wear them. Going to look for a nice Seiko down the line and I really like the look of Avi-8’s watches as well. Thanks so much!

Let me pile on with one more scolding for placing Citizen so low. Definitely deserved higher.

I have Longines, Ball, Tissot and Citizen. The Citizen has been great for ten years owned it, used for sports and really like the Eco drive power.

I want to buy a party wear watch please suggest brand casio, citizen,dw,fossil,Tommy?

How did Swatch end up next to Aliexpress ? Doesn't Swatch deserve at least an A ranking for innovation and history (with system 51 and partly saving Swiss watchmaking) ?

@94jmbottaro

3 жыл бұрын

Yea but as an individual, a switch watch sucks as they are built to last maximum 3 years

@RaggyJha

2 жыл бұрын

@@94jmbottaro My Sistem51 is 6yrs old. It still works great and I wear it every day.

@velvetkittyn

2 жыл бұрын

@@94jmbottaro I know my experience isn't indicitive of all of them, but I currently have 3 (an 84 White Mephis, an 85 Red Wave and one whose model I forget from the early 90s,) and they all still work wonderfully and get worn regularly.

@CthulhUwU

2 жыл бұрын

@@94jmbottaro my swatch is 10 years old and still working perfectly

@ArlowFarrell

2 жыл бұрын

I generally agree with most of this, but you really missed the mark on Swatch and Citizen. I don't even like citizen and I know they belong in the B tier; so does Swatch.

I bought an Orient Kamasu about a month ago for my first automatic and first real watch, and I have to say I'm in love with it. The bracelet is starting to feel a little shoddy after taking some fun window shopping trips and getting hands on time with the likes of Oris, Rado, Tudor, Omega, Breitling etc, but the actual watch itself is very nice and worth every penny and I can easily get a higher quality bracelet.

@mronissopwnage

Жыл бұрын

My RADO captain cook is my favourite watch. It’s amazing, well it better be for $3k 😅

What do you think about the Accurist's watches? Especially the Retro Race Driver 7367

I agree with everything I see here, except for Citizen. I think they should be in the A tier. For around $100 USD, you can get a stainless steel eco drive watch. No maintenance, reliable and accurate. You can even get some of their eco drive drivers for under 200USD on sale and that is a lot of watch for the money. As for Orient, a cool thing about them is that their mechanical movements are in house! Not just another seiko/miyota drop in special(I know they're owned by Seiko). I have their Neptune(formerly named Triton) diver and for the price I paid, it is a monster. Sapphire glass with AR coating, amazing case finishing, power reserve indicator with lume, built like a tank. Orient is a great brand.

Nico from Pride&Pinion is my hero!

What do you think about jsdun?

Does anyone know what model swatch watch he shows in the video?

Having Ali express on your score chart is like us Americans having Macy's on our list and giving them an A Tier cause they sell seiko.

Totally agreed, except that of Citizen. It's deserve higher.

@Mikey-ym6ok

2 жыл бұрын

So does seiko. The fact it’s in A tier even at the top of A tier is a major insult.

When I say Casio on the bottom on the thumbnail I almost died

I’m late to the party, but I feel this list. A few I’m completely unfamiliar with. I have a few Timex and Casio pieces with what will be my first automatic, a Seiko 5, on the way in the mail. I’m excited to start customising it.