Rank Fight 1 - Ethology of Shepherd Dogs 01. - ранжирование борьба
Үй жануарлары мен аңдар
TUR - Çoban Köpek Etoloji - 01. - Sıralama kavga 1
RUS - Овчарка Этология - 01. - ранжирование борьба 1
HU - Pásztorkutya Etológia - 01. - Rangsorharc 1 - Magyar feliratért kattints a lejátszó felirat gombjára CC (jobbra alul). Ha nem a magyar jelenik meg a fogaskerék gombra kattintva átállítható magyarra.
RO - Etologia Câinilor Ciobănești - 01. - Lupta de rang - Pentru subtitlu roman click pe butonul CC al playerului (dreapta jos). Dacă nu cel roman apare, se poate schimba făcând click pe butonul de lângă CC (icon de angrenaj).
EN - Livestock Guardian Dogs Ethology - 01. - Rank Fight
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Thank you for showing the true nature of the pack !! What I love about you is that you have a true understanding of your dogs plus you actually work your dogs . You can see your dogs are fit and healthy plus most important happy . A big THANK YOU ma man ✌️ and what a great pack !!
this is true pack politics people looking in will say you shouldn't be allowing them to fight and all that but this is how they establish authority in the wild so its all natural behaviour.
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+fracker121 I agree 100%.
@user-mw2iy1oq7p
6 жыл бұрын
Low Remedy افلام عربي اون لاين مسلسل بنات سكر نبات الحلقة الاولى الى.
FABULOUS educational video of a truly great Alpha dog showing the newcomer who’s boss! He is firm when needed and uses pressure beautifully. I hope you have many more years with him! I’m sure the yellow male will try him again. Pack behavior is different from aggression and aggression is different than viciousness. Thank you for sharing that.
Nice video and cute dogies! I think the dog owner is the true pack leader. Thanks for sharing.
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+Kit Anilapde Thank you, and you are welcome!
@prasannankoippallil6530
6 жыл бұрын
Kit Anilapde
@teyfikaksoy9978
6 жыл бұрын
kinomad aydın devevufezi
there are dog "experts" out there making a very good living claiming things like "there is no such thing as dominance in dogs" or "they are not pack animals" they should be made to watch this! thanks for uploading this!
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+bosprocket I am glad that You understand the thing. You are welcome!
@impalaSS65
8 жыл бұрын
+bosprocket My thought exactly. It's like explaining scientific method to a religious person. They are just hell bent on not taking in evidence that conflicts their beliefs.
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+impalaSS65 I think you hit the heart of the problem: religion and beliefs. Ludwig Wittgenstein said something like this: in the deep of every debate happens a collision of lifestyles, life forms.
@mateowwpunconbietefer.nl9171
6 жыл бұрын
bosprocket h
@mateowwpunconbietefer.nl9171
6 жыл бұрын
bosprocket i
Your videos are in all aspects wonderful to watch. I so concurr on your views on what is needed to make a good LGD. Keep up the good work! Very impressive. Look forward to your upcoming videos!
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+impalaSS65 Thank you very much! I am just working on two new videos. One of them will be more theoretical and will touch the problematic of breeding real, and good quality LGDs. Check back later please!
Very interesting I enjoyed wathing
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+Carol Jones Thank you!
love your videos. I think they are very educational. And some beautiful dogs. Thank you so much for sharing :D
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+Purple fox Thank you! You are welcome!
Beautiful dogs!
@kinomad1
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Thanks for posting, it's good to see this narrated interaction. I'm studying canine behaviour (course and exam) and this provides valuable insight into how the natural hierarchies are defined. The established pack leader was tolerant at first and controlled in the assertion of alpha status.
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+taja1976 You are welcome!
@prakashmaharajan9595
6 жыл бұрын
trev1976 O,
@fadouatemlali6212
6 жыл бұрын
trev1976
Very interesting video I LOVE IT
@kinomad1
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
the understanding and respect for dog and pack behavior is exemplary 😊 so happy to see another person who understands dogs put up true and real videos, not fluff. subscribed!!! I respect you and your work
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+kxtcx3iox2307 0 Thank you very much! I appreciate you comment!
@kxtcxiox
8 жыл бұрын
+kinomad is there anyway I can discuss dog ethology with you, messages someway? I'd love to go over some things with you, and show you videos of my pack?
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+kxtcx3iox2307 0 I have limited time to communication, but we can try. You can send me messages in private to my channel. I will answer you.
thank you very much for your videos it is incredible how they learn through their own experiences as I have on dogs my whole entire life and always found that it is important for the pack leader to put the new dog in its place thanks again look forward to your next video
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+Lizzy Hodges You are welcome! I appreciate your comment! Stay tuned cause it comes the next video.
Nagyon tetszett a videó! Mindkét kan nagyon "jó " természetű! Határozott de nem eszement. Mindkét kutya fékezi az agresszióját. Nem az a jó kutya aki féktelenül beledöngöli a másikat a talajba, hanem az amelyik épp ahogy a szürke vezér kan ,nyomást gyakorol de nem akarja a másikat megölni. Persze ehhez tényleg az kell hogy megszokják egymás szagát, nem idegenként lépjen egy falka területére. Milyen jól látszik, hogy mindkét kutya keresi a gazdával a szemkontaktust mintegy jóváhagyást! Nekem egy juhászkutya falkám van. 22 éve kutyázok eddig 3 vezérkanom volt akik öregkorukig a falka élén maradtak. A mostani vezérem már öreg az utóda pedig nem olyan jóindulatú kan. Hajlamos a zsarnokoskodásra. Ők nem őrkutyák hanem terelőkutyák. Gyakran jövünk össze a barátokkal semleges területen, ekkor egy hatalmas falkát képezünk. Itt is nagyon jól megfigyelhető a "vezérkutyák" egymással szembeni reakciója. Több ilyen videó kellene ! Köszönöm a feltöltést!!!
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+Ilona Erika Köszönöm szépen!
you are awesome dude u really understand dogs!
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+SaKa Sakic Thank you! :)
@malisale1510
8 жыл бұрын
+kinomad can u make more videos please :)
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+SaKa Sakic Yes. I am working on next videos. In first part of december 2015 I hope I can upload new ones.
@malisale1510
8 жыл бұрын
ok sick
@marytarimo8796
6 жыл бұрын
SaKa Sakic and 22
The true dogs behavior of dogs in the pack ! Unfortunately, a lot of people doesn't understood this natural behavior of dogs !....
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+Mihail Eugen Stefanide You are right! The anger of pacification of everything in the world turned in to a hyper exaggeration, what is already a falsification.
@buddhikarki9226
6 жыл бұрын
Mihail Eugeniaopuuyuopuuyuopuuyu Stefanide
@pauluthup235
6 жыл бұрын
Mihail Eugen Stefanide 6
@sudekurt1869
6 жыл бұрын
Köpek
@marvinmastiff9603
6 жыл бұрын
I agree all the wae
Very interesting
@kinomad1
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
That was very informative !
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+marc sene Thank you!
@charlesogweno9591
6 жыл бұрын
marc sene j coj
@charlesogweno9591
6 жыл бұрын
U oit lfkmh pu l nn
@charlesogweno9591
6 жыл бұрын
kinomad n
@charlesogweno9591
6 жыл бұрын
Oi
great videos my man, I have also seen the other one with these two dogs, where the gray is on the chain, I think because the blonde dog has the same father he has that dominant blood and even though he doesnt understand pack heirarchy he is also fearless, mabye one day he might challenge the gray for pack dominance, could we have another video of these two to see how the relationship has proceeded to now, keep up good work
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+jinx2000 Thank you!
good stuff
@kinomad1
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Almost 200.00O views in 4months ?? veryyyyy god for a dog video!! i work on a shelter on the mountains of spain.. there are signs on the roads (mostly for the turists) that say DO NOT GET CLOSE TO THE SHEEPS OR DOGS awsome videos !! keep it coming!!
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+Pedro Reis Thank you!
I enjoy seeing videos like these. Allowing the canines to adapt to pack life, work things out and bond. It shows canines can be just as free and loyal as their fellow cousin, the Wolf. Thanks for sharing these videos!
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+lorine holland You are welcome!
6:50 that sound #bark😂
Sorry for commenting so much, I just love these two dogs especially out of your pack. Both look very well built, strong yet agile and athletic. I've watched this video too many times to count, and can't come to a conclusion on this. Are they straight Illyrian Shepherds, or some mixture of Sarplaninec/other shepherds of the region?
@kinomad1
2 жыл бұрын
They are mixes of Sarplaninac, Central Asian, Caucasian shepherd and Kangal. The exact amount and proportions you can find somewhere in my older responses in comment section of these ethology series.
@seang14
2 жыл бұрын
@@kinomad1 That is fantastic, that is almost the exact mixtures of dogs I want to use.
Hi do you have a Facebook page?
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+Antoine Kunz Hi! Yes I have. You can find me like: Laszlo Bartha. My cover image is a photo about Cellini s Perseus sculpture.
Can someone explain, why 1 second, they were cool and all, other second they are fighting?
@ashleyadcock339
5 жыл бұрын
They was never cool.. The blond dog is clueless to dog body language. The alpha was saying chill out be humble the whole time.
Please make new videos, very informative
@kinomad1
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I will but only in autumn.
Great video and beautiful dogs specially that CAO behind the fence. What rank does he have? Probably rank "Untouchable" am I right? Best regards
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+Dario P Thank you! The CAO was then a 10 months old puppy. Even if he is the biggest dog of mine in size, but he is in the bottom of the rank with an other female puppy. For now.
@dariocszagreb3964
8 жыл бұрын
kinomad His young.. when he will be around 3 years old I believe he will be number one. Do you have many wolf encounters? And do you have any loses or do your dogs defend the hurd?
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+Dario P Yes, here are many wolfs in the mountains forests. My dogs do not defend sheep, but their brothers, sisters and puppies. My dogs "produces" the dogs who defend the sheep. This month I will upload one or two videos about dogs bred by me defending or just learning (puppies) to defending sheep.
@dariocszagreb3964
8 жыл бұрын
kinomad So you will have dogs for sheep protecting soon. Do you have any attacks on dogs and did you have any loses ? Are your current dogs capable of fighting the wolfs of?
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+Dario P Yes, just in this autumn I gave 3 puppies for a shepherd. I will upload a video in December about them. Unfortunately in every year dies 1-2 dogs bred by me fighting with wolfs or with other packs of LGDs. In the optimal situation dogs more are keeping away the wolfs from sheep than fighting full contact with them. Wolfs get in fight with dogs only if they are in overpower. And then is no mercy ...
so did the gray dog beat the giant kangal
thanks 5
@kinomad1
7 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@sevgiersoy.6563
6 жыл бұрын
Ratna Ranjitkar e
New dog doesn’t understand pack mentality. Lobo dog is like a wolf
What happened whith the subtitulos in spanish.?
greydogs like yeah u my bitch...
the grey dog is My favorite in you pack how moch it cost in american Caucasian shepherd
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+Luisito Rodriguez In private please!
@luisitorodriguez9591
8 жыл бұрын
+kinomad u tell me before and that is some old messege
do dogs behavior influence by human. mean does dog adopt behavior from his owner like dominant , aggressive??
@kinomad1
5 жыл бұрын
I think yes, but is hard to tell in what an extent. Is so much dependent of dog, owner, their compatibility, the real situation. Dogs are complicated. Owners even more. :)
esti roman ?
@kinomad1
7 жыл бұрын
Secui.
lol this may sound weird but kimond do you have a Kik? I want to ask you so many questions but I don't want to keep bothering you on the comments it would be greatly appreciated
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+Mushroom Taco Excuse me but I don't have Kik, I do not even know what it is.
@mushroomtaco8421
8 жыл бұрын
+kinomad ok that's fine, thanks for replying ;)
@mushroomtaco8421
8 жыл бұрын
+Mushroom Taco and I love your dogs their great!
@mariama1606
6 жыл бұрын
kinomad cancelar vidio
Mi az a : not to a yard isolated life space?
What breed of dogs are these ? They’re pretty big yet in good shape!
@kinomad1
3 жыл бұрын
They are not belonging to a certain kind of "breed". They are simply livestock guardian dogs. In original Eurasian environment did not existed breeds, only types. Breeds, especially so called "pure breeds" are modern things, and in long term ruins the dogs, especially livestock guardian dogs. The main stream dog breeding institutes deny this, but it is true. They are concerned about appearances, show, business. I am concerned about the real and authentic quality and performance of these dogs.
How many dogs do you have?I have 17 dogs .
excelent video, could i download your video and translate to spanish? obviously you will apear on the credits!
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+Will Smith Thank you! You do not need to download. The English narration is in description. If you want you can translate and send me the Spanish text. I will attach like Spanish subscription to the video. And Spanish people will be happy. (On the end Your name will appear like the generous translator. )
@MundodePerrosenespanol
8 жыл бұрын
ok i will!! tnks!
This is good. Maybe you could add the narrated text to the description below.
@kinomad1
6 жыл бұрын
Why?
i watch this just because i want to buy like 10 dogs and let them live in a open land and i don't want them t fight all the time so i watch this to know why they doing it very interesting...
I feel sorry for the yellow dog not having the proper socialosation which he will now get with your pack
thats fucking awsome..
y does he look like he's ganna mate with him?
@Saurus990
7 жыл бұрын
He's showing his superiority in the pack hierarchy it was all said in the vid man
@kapss0832
4 жыл бұрын
Haleigh Spradlin listen to what the dudes saying and you will know why.
Wat r these dogs luk quite small for causa. ..
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+Trevor Wright I do not think that they are small for caucasians.
@impalaSS65
8 жыл бұрын
+Trevor Wright You have been fed the modern view of "CO". The over bred 85kg lumbering clowns are useless for running and twisting with wild wolves. A 40-50 kg wolf would have a Stalin-OC for breakfast. Look at CO pictures from Georgia from the beginning of the 20th Century - none over 65kg. Probably not many over 60kg even. The "exhibiton CO's" are a Soviet invention from the 40's, partly from mixing in St Bernhards. They are not made for protecting lifestock against wolves or bears. Too slow, too docile.
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+impalaSS65 I totally agree.
amazing animals, I just love the way you keep them all traditional working with ranks as a team. Good for you my friend I have seen all your video series, excellent job for excellent WORKING GUARD DOGS, fantastic tests for real working guard dogs, excellent courage evaluations. I suppose the dogs in this video are caucasians right ? What kind of mix is the German Shepherd with collie perhaps ?
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+dkoriss1 Thank you for appreciating! No, they aren't Caucasians. The yellow dog is 37,5% Central Asian, 37,5% Sarplaninac and 25% Kangal. The grey dog is 37,5% Central Asia, 37,5% Caucasian and 25% Sarplaninac. I have to make my special mixes because the modern dog breeding ruined the real Eurasian LGDs. I try to recover and save somehow that ancient quality. I don't know what kind of mix should be the German Shepherd. He is not mine. He is my neighbors dog, but always comes with us if I go outside to fields with my dogs.
@dkoriss1
8 жыл бұрын
+kinomad , It's so nice you try to revive the old fashion qualities for we need them the most to my opinion, in our modern civilization (modern crime comes along also), it is just most of people do not realize so. Do you use old fashion Sarplaninac or the modern one that is bigger and closer to a georgian caucasian?
@frederikmeire
8 жыл бұрын
+kinomad very nice dogs man ! not heavy, not to fluffy, real temperaments and real working dogs ! love them !
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+dkoriss1 When I started with mixes - 9 year ago - I have used a very old fashioned Sarplaninac female, Karaman type, if you know it. This one: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qH6Vps9wl92ekrQ.html She had not an impressive look, but after I experienced her soul, well, that impressed me. A few months ago I have used the genetics of an other Sarplaninac. A male who looks impressive, but anatomically correct impressive. Yes, one bigger, like a "caucasian". (But do not forget that the original caucasians were not that big like now.) His guard dog test was excellent, just now I try to get the test video. He is an aboriginal dog, was bred in Balkan. This is: kzread.info/dash/bejne/jIWNy4-YY6i_ops.html On that channel you can find more videos about him. Now we have 4 puppies from him, and we will repeat the mate to obtain more puppies. Almost all the puppies will live in mountains guarding sheeps. We will see if they are really good LGDs.
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+frederik meire Thank you! You have good taste. ;)
Why all the dislikes? It's normal dog behavior
are people completely forgetting that aboriginal COs are bred like this as well? for those who don't know aboriginal COs this is a little information about them: they are COs but have strict rules concerning reproduction and living style, they must be kept free so that natural selection will always bring the next offspring and humans cannot interfere with them, else they are not aboriginal COs, why do they breed those? because shepherds need an LGD that has the best health and genetic history, this is achieved by natural selection. because an LGD that has bad genetics (like most in the show ring have) are prone to a lot of health issues, while the aboriginals have less since they are in a sense wild animals.
Мне нравляца кавкасие авчарки
I have no idea about dog pack mentally, but seems like the gray dog really didn't want to fight the brown dog but more of a " don't fuck up I run the show"
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+ROSA MARRERO-VALE Yes, something like this.
@joselima6596
6 жыл бұрын
kinomad
What weight are these 2 dogs in the video, 55kg?
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+Philip Morgan Yes. Around that.
@philipmorgan4700
8 жыл бұрын
+kinomad very nice. Most co's I see seem to be around 80kg I wouldn't imagen they would make it as working dogs tho.
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+Philip Morgan An 80 kg dog is unable to do the LGDs job. Those giants are backyards dogs.
@philipmorgan4700
8 жыл бұрын
+kinomad I agree. I have a presa canario and rottweiler. presa is 55kg and the rottweiler is 47kg both good examples. But I see people saying their presa is 70kg etc and people all seem to be breeding to try and make the dogs as large as possible. not only is it causing health problems but the dogs have poor working abilities. It was extremely difficult for me to find a quality rottweiler a lot harder than it was to find a decent presa. I really like the lgd dogs especially the cao. Been doing a lot of research but I don't think they are the right dog for me. The biggest problem for the cao if I'm hearing they tent to wander and stray? which would be a big problem and the co seems to bark an awful lot.
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
Philip Morgan Yes they are much less cooperative like rottweiler. And they are much more territorial aggressive too, that is why the extensive barking.
What breed is that?
@kinomad1
5 жыл бұрын
Mix of kangal, central asian, caucasian and sarplaninac.
Ilirian shepherd
what is the breed of these dogs?
@kinomad1
5 жыл бұрын
Mix of Central asian and Caucasian and Sarplaninac and Kangal
Yellow dog older brother vs Gray dog younger brother
Is the gray dog an Illyrian Sheepdog (Sarplaninac)?
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+The Tape 25 %
@mili6587
8 жыл бұрын
kinomad so it is mixed with a Caucasian Ovtcharka ? Cause I live in Kosovo ,maybe you know where it is and we have these kind of dogs,amazing dogs!
@angelofdeath9150
8 жыл бұрын
+The Tape NOt sarplaninac BUT ILLYRIAN SHEPHERD sarplaninac is made a mix with a other dog so the serbs did ,albanians have it pure not mixed .
@angelofdeath9150
8 жыл бұрын
+kinomad 1 question where are you from Or live?
@mili6587
8 жыл бұрын
Pro Eagle 007 yeah I know , I'm Albanian.
jaringan tak bersahabat
which the breed these dogs?
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+Sílvio Alex Alves Special mixes of Kangal, Sarplaninac Caucasian, Central asian shepherd dogs.
@silvioalexalves8949
8 жыл бұрын
+kinomad Beautiful dogs!
@silvioalexalves8949
8 жыл бұрын
+kinomad What is the adult height?
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+Sílvio Alex Alves Thanks!
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+Sílvio Alex Alves 75 cm
ok ok is it the kangal that's massive
@theoklahomarider2945
8 жыл бұрын
Sorry there about the same size Thoe
I hope this lecture will disappoint a good deal of urban deluded teddy bear owners, who de-animalize their their poor dogs.
Sorry cant find you. could you add me ? antoine kunz (it's the photo in black white)
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+Antoine Kunz I did it.
YaY
Meg fog fordulni náluk a hierarchia idővel....
@fadouatemlali6212
6 жыл бұрын
MrSzubhuti
@fadouatemlali6212
6 жыл бұрын
MrSzubhuti .
this is sarplaninac serbian and macedonian sheperd dog
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+Zivota Vojinovic Some part of their genes are really sarplaninac, but they have also Caucasian, Central-asian and Kangal genes too.
more video on 🐑 🐕 protection how u train 🐑 🐕
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+Sammie Gardner I'll try. I am a breeder. I am focusing to breed dogs that do not need any training to protect their territory, their pack, their owner. They just do it when they get mature.
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+Sammie Gardner Look at this: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZpN72NWdc8nOY6Q.html This is my old pack leader (when he was young), the father of these two above. He never was trained at all.
hola atos 🌸🌹🌼🌹🌻 qe tal
Wtf is going on here???
kangal doğ turkey
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+sedat şahin Partially. :)
(Y)
@kxtcxiox
8 жыл бұрын
WHT is (Y) ???
Is that fucking Siri talking
For god sake change the living situations from your dogs, read some new stuff and then you will not have "stressed dogs"....
@kinomad1
8 жыл бұрын
+Astrid Verkuijl What to change? What to read? They are not stressed, they are pack animals, and in pack is always some stress, just like in human communities. Read some good staff, please!
Haha I thought that grey dog was gay lol
@ummno3703
8 жыл бұрын
+Jake Thomas god you really have no understanding of dogs if you think one dog mounting the other is "gay" are you still in middle school? you must be.
@jakethomas4913
8 жыл бұрын
+umm no go and troll somewhere else I don't want to hear your stupid comment. Get a life
@ummno3703
8 жыл бұрын
im not trolling im just telling the truth. dont get mad because i called you out on your stupidity
@animelover9110
8 жыл бұрын
I agree with the other guy. Your comment makes it seem you mean exactly what he said. That if a dog mounts another dog he is "gay". Which isn't the case. Its a display of dominance and all males do that. Thats why you should never let a dog jump on you regardless of the gender. Even females do this sometimes although its rare unless you have an alpha female instead of a male.
@shojaee9720
6 жыл бұрын
umm no پ. .
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