RANGED ROGUE TIER LIST DIABLO 4! Rating the Strongest Ranged Rogue Builds! RF vs Barrage vs Penshot
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When watching build guides, it seems it can be really hard to understand which builds are the best.
In this video I wanted to talk about my perceived strengths of each of the ranged Rogue builds in Diablo 4.
Again keep in mind, these are all my opinions. I get asked a lot about the perceived strengths of these builds, and wanted to share my opinions.
I need to say this: ALL OF THESE BUILDS WILL WORK JUST FINE! These ranks are for people who wonder how they perform from a player who has tried numerous variations of this build, and done just about everything Diablo 4 has to offer.
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RF (will be updated soon): • BOWAZON Rogue Build Gu...
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Thank you guys so much for all the happy birthdays. This might sound like... maybe sad or something? I don't really know how to put it. But all of your comments, constructive or just positive make me so damn happy. I'm really glad I'm able to make content that helps so many people, and you guys don't know how much all the support really means to me. I appreciate all of you for letting me know you enjoy the video past just liking and moving on. Reading my comment section is so unlike most comment sections, I just see a bunch of positivity and support. When people do have input or feedback, it seems they generally put it in a constructive way too. All of this means the world to me. Thank you all so much, you motivate me to keep getting better and better as a content creator and put more time into each project. That's it. I love you all.
@mikasayeager2183
Жыл бұрын
Sir can u drop ur discord so I can Join❤
Happy Birthday! Love the work that you put in your content, as well as your constant interaction with your community. Keep up the solid work!
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much tsean! :)
Happy birthday man good videos ! enjoy your day
Always bringing to content, Can't keep up with the build iterations haha. Much respect. Happy Birthday
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha. I'm glad you're enjoyin Tizoh, hopefully this video helps clarify some things about the ranged builds.
I wish you a happy birthday and once again, thank you for the great video. :)
Happy Birthday Valued! Thank you for your hard work on making these builds for us! Considering how costly and how much effort it is to reset a paragon board and respec, getting the right stats + aspects, it requires tremendous effort, plus the theory crafting in the first place. Looking forward to see more content of yours!
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Haha you aren't kidding! I play D4 an unholy amount but my gold wouldn't tell you that.
Appreciate this video! I'm running Penetrating Shot + Traps with Trap Key. Has been very well balanced, I basically play like a melee but happen to have PS with Inner Sight. Shotgun blast spam everything in the traps, get hp back and it's been super smooth so far. On T45 about level 86 currently.
@SuperCatacata
Жыл бұрын
Do penetrating shot builds usually use inner sight over the massive oneshot potential of combo points?
@Godsane
Жыл бұрын
Nah they use combo points.
Happy Birthday!! Keep up the amazing work :)
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much moffo! Nice to see you again :)
Happy bday, enjoying your content
I love this video man. the way you put things out is very cool and interesting keep going ❤️
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Shady! I'm glad you've enjoyed :)
Happy B day bro. Good content. Love your works
Happy birthday bud, many many thanks for your builds
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it Sam, no problem!
Absolutely love your content man! Keep it up! Your channel is gonna explode!
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much addalyn! I don't really care about the numbers, I just love seeing that I'm helping people and providing some builds to players of all varieties. D4 is hard, and build guides really help some people love the game more than they would alone.
Happy birthday! Hope you have a great one. I always enjoyed your content. I really like your pen + rapid fire build but I can’t wait for the rain of arrow and rapid fire build. Looks so much fun to play with!
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate it Dennis! Glad to see you again :)
@emptysoul2757
Жыл бұрын
What’s that build?
Happy birthday, thanks for the video
Happy Birthday! I 100% agree with your opinions about each individual core skill. I was expecting a ranking of every possibility you've played so far tho' I did some soft and hard respec so many times!!! Now I'm back to Rain of Arrows but with combo points Rapid Fire. Puncture. Poison and Shadow. Precision passive. But I even tested melee basics, and other passives, including melee oriented ones. I'll probably go back to Victimize for the most balanced ranged rogue ever.
Happy birthday!!!🎂Thank you for the informative guides!
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Thank you airotal! :) No problem!!
Happy Birthday Sir! Your vids have been great for me.
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Thank you for the hbd wishes :)
Thorough and explained your opinions. Thx. Extra thought: I run impale/rapid fire/combo points with both poison(elite/boss) and shadow (AOE). Swapping embuement while the other is on cool down is a staggering amount of DPS.
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
No problem russel! I'm currently also playing Rapid Fire, and from my further testing I do stand behind what I said in this video: I think Rapid Fire (for most content) is the best and will be releasing my updated end game guide on it soon.
Happy Birthday! Thank you as always for the informative guides!
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Nemo! :) Happy to see you again.
@Nemo2342
Жыл бұрын
@@Valuedx I always love to see a new video from you; it's just some of the best Diablo 4 content I could ask for.
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
@@Nemo2342 I personally wouldn't go THAT far! But I'm really glad you're enjoying :)
happy birthday dude. great video.
Happy birthday! This was a great layout in choosing a playstyle. Respecs are absurdly expensive when experimenting, and is good to hear others' opinions. Cheers! 🍻
Happy Birthday! Love all your guides so far!
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton jedi I really appreciate it :)
happy bornday! we love u nd ur vids nd will always root for your success!!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!!!! we love your Rogue videos
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Bryant! :) Love the caps, it means that YOU MEAN IT! hahaha
Happy birthday man, also thanks for the content and your drive and dedication. Thank you
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate it myster! Thank you for all the kind words! Happy to see you back again :)
@myster_ink8115
Жыл бұрын
@@Valuedx Yeah for sure you’re welcome. I’m one tricking rogue until we get a paladin or death knight (whatever Blizzard chooses to do) so I like to see how other people build/play theirs I’m currently lv 75 t4 been running nm 35+ dung’s running a pure cold ranger build I made back before beta and it’s been working flawlessly, but as I mentioned before I like see other things for rogue that are valuable come mid-late game. Keep up the good work. I was running pen shot + rapid fire with no ult for a while, it’s actually really nice being able to clear mobs and high prio targets aka bosses efficiently by using them both
Happy Birthday! I'm really loving barrage rogue, i hope all ranged skills get some love in season 1
Happy Birthday boss, thank you for your hard work, Torment got a lot more fun when I stopped tickling elites
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Of course budding! I've been having so much fun on KZread, loving the community that's joined around this channel :)
Happy birthday man I totally agree with you on every word you said. Absolutely spot on!
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Haha nice to know I'm not crazy! Thanks for the bday wishes :)
Happy Birthday man! Hope you enjoyed it!
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Thanks braan! I appreciate you :)
really good content. love this +1 sub for you brother
Happy birthday! Always my fav Diablo videos. Lucky that I happen to main rogue lol. Congrats on your success
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Haha thank you stereohead! Love the name btw, music is my jam. I really appreciate the comment :)
@stereohead90
Жыл бұрын
@@Valuedx Oh thanks. I forgot that was my tag on here actually lol. It's just me copying Radiohead but making it a little different. Great band.
I like this guy, subbed
I love your contents about Rogue! So enlightened to still use my Rogue.
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much harry! I'm glad you're enjoying :)
Happy birthday man, Druid main here but I started a rouge yesterday. Made it to 32 with your twisted blades build and it’s extremely fun. I was hoping to make a pen shot but man TB is just smooth.
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Malik! I’m glad you’re enjoying so far :)
@malikstroman4035
Жыл бұрын
@@Valuedx keep up the good work def got a sub
First of all Happy Birthday! Its about time to drop a huge thank you. Im following your rouge content now for a while and get a ton of Inspiration when it comes to optimize my rouge. I cant stress it enough: your build Videos arent just amazing... Somehow you manage to keep things short but still awsomely (is that even a wird?xD sry not a native speaker) informativ. Every buff/nerf you dropped an alternative build. Absolutely great content! 10 Out of 10. And btw: good luck with lady lilith❤
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha thank you for the comment david! I'm glad you're enjoying the builds so far, I really appreciate the kind words. Made me smile :) Also "awesomely" is not a traditional word, but you can totally use it here. After all it's awesomely, who doesn't want to recognize that as an English word? XD
@davidhaber2125
Жыл бұрын
@@Valuedx guess there's nothing more to ask for than a Smile as a present haha. Enjoy your day (:
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
@@davidhaber2125 Haha thank you david. I really appreciate it :)
First of all happy birthday! Great video as always, can't say I disagree with your list. Think my favourite is definitely the pen shot build atm. Hoping to see a pure rapid fire build aswell or did i miss that one?? Your doing an awesome job with your videos. They are easy to watch, you get to the point and somehow keep them short and packed with usefull information. They have become a daily watch for me. Can't wait for the discord it's always nice to have a place to have a chat and find usefull information. Keep it up and if you do get some bad comments and hater it's all part of the game just can't let them get to you.
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Hey grumpy!! Nice to see you again :) No you didn't miss one, I made an RF build a long while ago, but it's due for an updating. That build is really good as well, I'm working on that guide for tomorrow. Thank you so much for all the kind words on all the videos grumpy, you're very kind. I need to just get all the bots set up and the discord is good to go :)
First of all, happy birthday man, keep the good work and awesome video again!! As soon as you release a video, I am already expecting the next one :) One question, how can I calculate how much DPS I am doing from my build (similar from you last video - pen shot + rapid fire), with all those numbers showing up at once? Is there an easy way?
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Haha I wish! A damage counter would be so nice in this game to test builds. But it's something we haven't gotten in Diablo :/
Happy birthday valued great content do you think the penshot build with rapid was worth losing the trap it resets cool down gives you knock down and crit chance when activated
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, you don't HAVE to take Rapid Fire. That skill is more for players who are finding bosses exceedingly hard (likely because they don't have the necessary stat lines). I personally like Pen Shot with or without Rapid Fire! For the replacement, Poison Trap is my favorite option for the crit chance from Trap Mastery & the added CC/damage reduction utility.
Happy Birthday Mate!, I run the Rapid fire build but I use the ricochet Aspect giving it pretty great AOE to clear mobs and still having the ability to melt bosses
@loremipsum54321
Жыл бұрын
Been thinking of running rapid fire instead of penetrating shot, precisely because of what you just said...Is it fun to play?
@dreekje
Жыл бұрын
Super fun!
i love your videos,, please do one also in twisting blades and flurry :D , i think the best of them all compared as you mention is the twisting blades poison one
Happy birthday ! 🎉
Happy Belated birthday! I've been struggling to find a balance between pen and rapid fire with double imbue. I feel like you can get two: AOE, Boss/Elite, or survivability. I usually run with my buddies who are already 100 or close to 100 while I'm at 73 in their nightmare dungeons. I've enjoyed your breakdown and I still feel conflicted, but at least I know I'm not the only one trying to find that golden balance.
Happy Birthday!
Happy birthday!
Happy Birthday!!
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Haha thank you!!
Happy birthday m8 ❤🎉
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Thank you nico!
maybe this is a weird question to ask but... as someone who wants to level to 100 and kill uber lilith in this "season" (as a final goal, I mean) at lvl 60, what would you recommend? I've been trying different builds, pen shot, twisting blades, barrage, some people told me is best to stick to TB till 70, then swap to pen shot, and at 80 go with barrage, some people told me that barrage is inefficient and I should just go with rapid fire at lvl 80, and some told me that I just need to go with pen shot and call it a day And I'm heavily confused, I had this problem since I started with the rogue, but I REALLY don't know what to play tbh, any tips?
What do you think about a TB&Rapid hybrid build??
Happy birthday broski!🎉❤
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much mika! :)
Happy birthday Valued! First. Ive already tried your every build ( including items + aspects ) I think every build is almost perfect except penshot. Penshot has less survive between those + its really not okay for single target. But like u said its so fun to play. Besides that i havent try RF but def. i will try it next season. For me Barrage is our best option with good gear. I made some changes with aspects and some of the stats in our gear and it feels awesome. ( %90 your build+gear+aspects %10 my personal ) But i have to say this if anyone wants to try barrage build. For packs of mobs ( little spiders/flies/full group of mobs ) Barrages ricochet is a problem. U have to manage your cooldowns and u have to finish the mobs with shadow imbuement . Otherwise you will spend so much time with them. Its not like penshot that u can literally just explode them. But with sustain + little management of cooldowns barrage is the best option. So the only thing we have to get max shadow imbue + cooldown management and a lil bit positioning i think this is the final build for me. Appreciate that for the videos and effort. And wish you a great day.
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Thank you tnelist!!! I really appreciate it. I agree with your notes about Pen shot, that's why I put it as the lowest build for pushing content. I think it just gets 1 shot before it can get rolling. RF is the best for pushing IMO. I really appreciate your input. I'm sadly going to probably swap TB for lilith kill, and then I will come back to Rapid Fire
@tnelist7790
Жыл бұрын
@@Valuedx im waiting a TB build video!! you put so much time and effort and i respect that a lot tbh. Everythings so clear. Keep up the good work brother!
HBD! awesome video as always, can we expect a rapid fire build in the future for NM Dungeons?
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Thank you fetso! Rapid Fire is the last ranged build I'm going to update. It's on the calendar :)
I like the ‘rapid-pen’ variant but I use poison trap just to play a poison ivy theme. About to try using shadow clone with it. Friend of mine said it’s wrecked for her at level 77.
Happy birthday!!
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Thanks garret!! :)
Woohoo Happy Bday bro!! I love watch your content on comparing each build, quite fair and objective.. hope you later also try the twisting blade build and let us know which one is best for the rogue build!
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I will be making some twisting blades guides soon :)
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Also thanks for the happy birthdays gilriva :)
@gilriva1090
Жыл бұрын
Yes! Cant hardly wait! rite now Im back to your penetrating build since I got the sacred unique bow from boss field.. it gave 10-20% chance double damage!
Important note with rapid fire: it can be used in builds that let you drop basic skills. It’s easy to make Rapid fire pay for itself.
Happy Birthday you glorious bastard!
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
hahahaha. thanks clint :)
I love your vids so I've subbed :) Question: I'm levelling with the Pen shot (completed campaign on another character) - at what point should I consider respeccing into Rapid Fire? Thanks again!
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Ooh. Well, the natural transition point is always in World Tier 4 if you can wait that long. But, what level are you? Would help me to gauge this.
@lowercaseCAPS
Жыл бұрын
@@Valuedx Just lvl 32 so far, in WT2. I've never done the capstone yet to get to WT3, even on my main (necro). I was just excited that I could skip the campaign and start a new rogue, so that's where I'm at so far.
@Katastra_
Жыл бұрын
If you get a drop with the Repeating Aspect definitely try it out, it's super fun
🎉Happy Birthday Dude !🎉 Thanks again for all your constructive contents ! It's help me a lot in my first diablo (yeah I know 😅) and I hope you'll going on like you always do. I have a True question, I drop a unique Bow and the legs too with great principal stats but I feel weak, do you advise me to change for smthg with an other aspect ?
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
jcs! Thank you so much for the comment first off :D really appreciate your kind words. So here's my breakdown on the Unique bows: they are cool, and Windforce specifically is really interesting - but sadly Crossbows just deal more damage overall in the end-end game. But, while youre leveling - you can absolutely use a unique bow, especially if it's a DPS increase. Also for the pants (I'm assuming you're talking about the Unique Pants "Teremity") you can use these if you are running the passive called "Siphoning Strikes", because it will consistently give you an overshield if you're attacking close mobs. I hope this helps, if you want any more clarification please let me know and I will respond in the morning when I wake up. :)
@jcs.819
Жыл бұрын
@@Valuedx it's excaltly the ones I have (sorry for the names, I was not sure of the English Trad cause I'm French). The passive of the Bow is not incredible but I got it when I passed world 4 so the diff between sacred and ancestral was huge ! I'll try to catch a good crossbow 😉 Thanks again for the answer 👍
Happy b day. This is a fair assessment. Rapid fire, poison trap, dash, forceful arrow, and death trap. Super fun way to traverse the map. I pretty much level everything I come into contact with.
@dirtygerd9083
Жыл бұрын
Very similar to my build but I don't use a basic skill. You should give it a try the glyph that restores 12% energy on crit and 15 energy on vulnerable makes RF basically free.
@fumano2679
Жыл бұрын
@@dirtygerd9083 do you use inner sight or preparation as mastery?
@dirtygerd9083
Жыл бұрын
@@fumano2679 Preparation. As long as I maintain vulnerable I never run out of energy.
Happy birthday bro your Build is have maxroll platform?
Thanks for your opinion, helped me to recalibrate my thoughts about gearing from 80 to 100. I play pen-shot but will go on rapidfire for key-pushing...do you have a vid for an endgame bosskilling rapidfire build?
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
I'm fine tuning the build still before I make a video on it.
@Sourlife.
Жыл бұрын
@@Valuedx perfect, i will stay tuned😉
Rogues in higher tier nightmares severely lack any form of def really. Expected to be melted by poison and random explosion death. A lot of the mob damage is straight up bullshit. Hope the devs raise def or nerf some of the mobs.
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's like near impossible without cheesing the game with some boring mechanics/unique combos.
Love your builds, I'm running rapid/pen hybrid build and its just overall the best builds for me, great single target dps with psn imbue and then pen and shadow for AoE. With just one point invested into shadow I still have level 7 from items. Owning content at lvl 73 and nightmare dungeons around 25-30. What's your view on windforce? I want to make a windforce build ...as I found one with 19/20% chance to double dmg snd knockback!
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
The thing about bows is this: they’re nice for leveling because you attack faster, but crossbows will be your best move in the end end game if you’re looking to maximize damage. But it’s not unplayable by any means :)
@samtomkins3036
Жыл бұрын
@@Valuedx thanks for your input, greatly appreciated and I hear ya. Just a shame windforce isn't quite the same as the D2 version. I'll still try and theory craft a build and let you know if it's any good 👍 Looking forward to future content. Subscribed and locked in 👌
I'm level 56 pen shot shadow/poison, caltrops, shrouds and bad gearing but managing on teir 3, defo need to gear up and follow one of ur builds properly now I'm getting towards end only side quests and dungeons to complete Thanks for ur help
@Katastra_
Жыл бұрын
Helltides are great for gearing. I'm 57 and replaced half my gear just today from helltides mysterious chests
Happy Birthday :)
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton lol39r :)
Merry Birfmas!!!!
Pretty accurate representation of the different ranged core skills. Would love to see if it's even possible to clear t100 with any ranged option in the current state. From my own experience it's most likely only possible with rapid fire. So far the only t100 rogue clear is with a tb death trap combo, which has lots of CC added to it, like the dash daze aspect and daze on vul enemies.
@jinshin85
Жыл бұрын
The highest I've seen on youtube at least is Barrage. A dude from Korea cleared t86
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
I don't think any ranged build can clear NM dungeon 100 honestly. After I kill Lilith I'm on a NM dungeon pushing hunt!
@geem3091
Жыл бұрын
@@Valuedx Would be nice to see since I've stopped trying. Got a bit bored of farming gold to hit those perfect rolls and affored high ipower weps in bids. Felt a bit pointless at some point cause there aren't ladders yet or anything rewarding beside the titel which 99% of player don't even know
@geem3091
Жыл бұрын
@@jinshin85 that's decently high already, but i feel like barage caps out at some point since the nature of the skill kinda requiers a semi close ranged playstyle. Maybe it's doable with added CC, but at that point, why not just go tb
@chriso6042
Жыл бұрын
@@geem3091because it's tankier, TB just doesn't bring enough defense.
Feliz aniversário, mano! Eu tenho jogado com pen shot e tenho gostado muito, principalmente pelo fato dela não ser tão efetiva contra bosses......isso deixa certas batalhas mais divertidas! Mas eu no começo do jogo usei bastante rapid fire e provavelmente vou testar ela de novo agora que estou com uns lvls a mais. Ótimo vídeo, muito obrigado!
Happy birthday man
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Thank you delskif :)
Happy bday! Will you try out and make guides for other classes eventually?
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Yes! Rogue is just my first class, I like to cover all my bases before moving on. I'm going to be ramping up my playtime and content time so I will be expanding to all the classes before Season 1 :)
do you have a skill guide for the rapid fire build?
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Coming soon. :)
Happy Birthday man. Good luck on Lilith.
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Hakaii! :)
don't know if you'll see this but I'm running a pen shot build with imbuements. I can use my imbuements with every shot of penshot. I'm running the imbue damage aspect on 2 hand which gives 80% bonus and edgemaster on amulet for the 30%. would swapping increase my damage or decrease it? crits go from 2-5m right now depending on the debuffs/setup.
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
*sees comment* Swapping them around will make a very minor difference, and it truly depends on your setup. I would need to see your paragon points and gear to give you a 100% accurate assessment, but it really depends on what you're speccing and gearing towards: If you're going for the more traditional stat lines: crit, crit dam, vulnerable, crit dam with imbue skill - Edgemaster's will be better But if you're taking some stats to enhance your imbuement skills at all, and speccing differently on your paragon board - Corruption could be a better benefit. I'll leave you with this: what is your gear and paragon board focused on? Raw damage or imbuement damage? That should help you decide where you should place the aspects. I hope this helps, if you want more clarification let me know and I will respond when I wake up :) Cheers jiggsy.
@jiggsywinky
Жыл бұрын
@@Valuedx I think i found the answer because of what you asked me to think about. :D Since I put a lot of non-physical and imbued damage on the paragon, I'll keep the imbue potency on my 2-hand. My maxed out glyph gives 145% imbue skill damage and I'm working on the nodes for the maxed out non-physical damage. Thanks for the inputs! Btw right now i'm trying out your pen+rapid fire. Seems the damage on single target is the same but i'll test some more! I might still be crap with this playstyle. What a big brain move to put 2 core skills. XD
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
@@jiggsywinky I can’t take credit for the double spenders. It was actually a lot of people in the comments recommending it, I simply tested it out :)
Happy B-day yo!
Happy Birthday. i know you are busy but do you have any ETA on that updated Rapid Fire guide. I play your RF+ PEN build now but i really wanna go back to pure RF i think. And i love your builds so wont switch back before i see what you done :D Hey even if you just have a D4 planner with paragon and aspects i could use that to ;) Anyway keep you the good work you make really good guides and videos.
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Thank you a ton Zapa! Rapid Fire will be the next (and last until they release balance changes) build guide that I do on the channel. I'm currently progressing on the lilith fight with my Single target variation, so I haven't had time to test everything I want to with a more balanced build to make a video.
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Also, I'm really glad you enjoy my videos this much - means a ton to me.
Valued! Have you ever tried the triple imbuement rapid fire + rain of arrows with the Hakan unique? Shreds elite and have a perfect AoE cleaning, also you can use the rain of arrows to reset the imbuements for your rapid fire. You could poison rapid fire, rain of arrow, poison rapid fire again for melting bosses even faster!!
@GerryCasts
Жыл бұрын
I've been considering this route since finding the amulet. Currently running close to it but only double imbuement with poison trap and concealment. But dropping trap for the third imbuement is verrrrry tempting
@itsgiyu412
Жыл бұрын
Do you have a d4 planner link or a vid you could show me im interested in switching from pen shot to this pen just lacks dammage at high end unfortunately
@GerryCasts
Жыл бұрын
@@itsgiyu412 I don't, and to be honest, I'm thinking of u-turning completely. While the Hakan amulet is a good incentive to use Rain Of Arrows, it feels like at a high enough level the Rogue ultimates aren't good enough consistently to justify ther investment. I think I'm aiming towards a variant of the Rapid Fire build in Valued's latest vid. Combo points and Edgemasters aspect just push the ceiling of the build so much higher too. What I've found though is that as long as you are committed to a bow build the refund costs for skill trees etc aren't too bad for Rogue yet. So I'm still expereimenting a fair bit
@itsgiyu412
Жыл бұрын
@@GerryCasts yeh i just gave rain a go it doesnt do enough in high end hopefully they buff it looks cool af
Happy birthday goat
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Kramer :)
happy birthday ive taken alot of builds from you
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
I hope they've been helping you enjoy D4 to the max! Thanks Kemgie.
happy birthday!
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Thank you niuren :)
I did follow your built to be honest. Only thing i followed was utilizing pen shot and rapid fire in one built…change my diablo 4 life. Thank you sir
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
You're welcome Johnny! I'm glad I could help you :)
Useful content, thanks :)
Happy birthday pimp 💪🏽
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha thank you phillip! Appreciate it.
Penshot won't clear a room without trickshot so, I assume that's included in your evaluation. for this reason, IMO, you should also include aspect of repeating for rapid fire. It's ranked 1 in boss damage, but could it be better than barrage with aspect of repeating aspect?
Happy Birthday my favourite Ranged Rogue Player! 🎉🎉
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton melubo! Glad to see you again :)
@melubo
Жыл бұрын
@@Valuedx :D
I loved the Pen shot build, i tried the barrage variant from lvl 55-73 and now im looking for new aspects and gear for the new variant of the pen shot build (the one with rain of arrows) Love the content cheers
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely Jhona! I'm glad you enjoy the content :)
@D00RYA
Жыл бұрын
How do you deal with "i have no imbu ready, im useless"? I run Barrage with Condamnation + combo and it just deletes every1, with Pene shot i feel like trash without imbu lol
@itsgiyu412
Жыл бұрын
@@D00RYArun 3 imbued skills youl never not have one ready then you have frost to debuff poison for dps and shadow for ad clear
Happy Birthday! I'm running 2 impudents (shadow and poison) with rapid fire, poison trap, shadow step, and death trap. I'm using Preparation with no basic skills, and for the most part it works pretty well. The biggest downside is lack of mobility while actually shooting
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
A lot of people are a big fan of those Preparation builds. I gotta do some more testing with them, I always just find combo points to hit way harder.
@emptysoul2757
Жыл бұрын
@@Valuedxdefinitely do a preparation build. Super fun
@dirtygerd9083
Жыл бұрын
Could probably drop poison imbue for dash if you want some mobility. Your single target is already pretty nutty. Idk what level you are but at 80 things die before poison even makes an impact.
@ikaSenseiCA
Жыл бұрын
@Valuedx Combo his harder for sure, but being able to spam rapid fire helps with groups and isn't too much worse for boss damage.
@ikaSenseiCA
Жыл бұрын
@dirtygerd9083 There's a way to get poison trap to cause vulnerability, and it helps alot with resource management since rapid fire can get energy back that way.
Happy bday man mines is literally in like 2 hours lol😅 but if u can u should do a rouge melee tier rate too like this one but wit melee would be cool for sum melee users out here besides a twisting blade build but love the content tho
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Wow we're almost birthday twins hahaha. Happy early birthday! Yeah, I need to play the melee builds more before I do an overall Rogue tier list. I want to make sure my opinions are based in my informed opinions :)
@ChezzyVortex
Жыл бұрын
@@Valuedx thank u 💯🥳🙌🏾
HAPPY BDAY!
wait you are using shadow clone i am using the same build same skills in everything i love the set up with dash i might try it with cold imbue and see if i like it more i like poision for boss killing i want to try cold imbue as well
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
I'm testing a bunch of stuff for Lilith. I'm trying to do the fight without using TB but it's hard.
What rogue build would you recommend for hardcore?
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Rapid Fire or Twisting Blades IMO :)
@rodneyolayinka7742
Жыл бұрын
@@Valuedx thanks! happy late birthday qt
barrage dps should be the same as rapid fire in close range, or maybe better. i find that rapid fire shot slower and can not move while shotting, while barrage shot faster with its shadow that will shot other arrows for you and you can move right after you shot ,and free vulner debuff that you dont need to depend on exploit glyphs or trap lucky hit aspect like rapid fire.
I'm loving Barrage, but I'm also a dad who doesn't have enough time to get good. Barrage is a ton of fun; I feel more like a Spartan with a shotgun than a Rogue with a bow. Oh, and Shadow Imbuement exploding everything on screen is hilarious.
i have played barrage and twsiting blades and never coming back with arrow builds in my life
*Top 20 pvp player globally here* I did 1300ish pvp kills with twisting blades. Movement was cancer. Absolutely yawnfest. Sorcs press 2 buttons and I'm 100% frozen and 100% dead. Barrage changed my d4 life like an adderral before a test. It's gross. No buildup. I AHK cold + shadow inbuement, every 6 seconds one after the other, so I'm never out of inbuement damage. It's a rotating fuckfest of driveby damage. Speed farming is possible. Solo damage is literally the same as twisting blades as I've seen. I'm only lvl 87, and I'm breezing past lv60 nightmares somehow. Pvp is hilarious now. Absolute meme. Sorcs get dickslapped. Absolute W. Big W, big big big W to Wudijo and the team. He answers any of my questions I have, always has the best advice, and your content is great aswell. Barrage>>>
What does frogging mean?
I really wanted to like range rogue but controlling it just wasn’t working well for me. I think I need to practice more orb movement
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Hmm. If you want the best SEGWAY build (to start getting used to it) Barrage is probably the easiest to play to get comfortable with ranged rogues :-)
i really like rapid fire, its so fun to destroy single enemies, also the hitbox is relatively large, u can hit 2 mobs with it in 1 line, pen shot is fun but hard to execute, barrage is ok and more of a chill build, but rapid fire is my favourite
@Valuedx
Жыл бұрын
Yeah Rapid Fire is a lot of fun, I just find (personally) that it struggles in AOE scenarios, but it's probably the strongest ranged option available.
@z1nky_aqz_Lascar
Жыл бұрын
@@Valuedx ye true, it takes long to clear big mobs with rapid fire, its really strong against elites and stuff though (especially with shadow step)
@austin_c
Жыл бұрын
It's amazing in AOE just put the ricochet aspect on the crossbow. 90% chance to ricochet and its a nuke
@z1nky_aqz_Lascar
Жыл бұрын
@@austin_c ah nice, i will test it out more, (got it on my level 50 archer)
Currently running rapid fire with repeating aspect 90% chance to ricochet and it feels godly. Gear is mostly core skill + vuln dmg + crit dmg + attack speed affixes. I leveled with barrage, but i feel this rapid fire build has even better aoe imho. Currently doing nightmatr dungeons in the mid 30's range at around level 65
@f8widescat392
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How did you find repeating aspect
@Katastra_
Жыл бұрын
This, I got a Repeating aspect drop at like level 30 and used it all the way til 50. Was sad to switch to pen shot even though the screen clear in one click is fun I miss my 90% ricochet rapid fire. I've been sitting on the aspect waiting for at least a 725+ crossbow with decent rolls to switch back, mostly because I've yet to get a second drop of it while I'm drowning in Trickshot aspects
Happy Birthday