47 dealers disliked this video. Thanks for the info!

I had code p203f reductant level too low in 2022 ram 3500 with 40k miles I watched this video and cleaned the injector and light never came back. Dealer kept the truck for 2 weeks never checked it so I went and got my truck back to fix it after watching this video. Thank you so much!

At 27K miles my DEF injector went bad. Covered under warranty. The next time it goes bad I won't need DEF anymore.

I don't dread that message cause my DEF system was lost in a boating accident.

@Bryan-Hensley

3 жыл бұрын

Be careful what you say in public. You don't own the computer on your vehicle. The federal government does. You kinda own it but not allowed to do anything to it. Read up on it. I didn't believe it either when I was told.

@cynicaltexan9639

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bryan-Hensley come and take it.

@Bryan-Hensley

3 жыл бұрын

@@cynicaltexan9639 it's not about that, it's about the thousands in fines and loss of the right to tag it. Since we have a green left leaning president, they'll crack down on this. I'm pretty pissed off at the rolling coal guys because we don't have inspections in my state and they are bound to cause it to happen. I drive old vehicles, they'll never pass.

@cynicaltexan9639

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bryan-Hensley old vehicles are usually exempt but knowing the stupidity of the left. I don't like rolling coal. I try to have it tuned so it won't 90% of the time.

@Bryan-Hensley

3 жыл бұрын

@@cynicaltexan9639 I hope I'm not taken wrong. I don't like these laws, I actually found out trying to find out why software was so unavailable for programming vehicle computers. It's illegal to even make the software. It's allowed to make adjustments within preset parameters and that's all.

Aye, 17 year old here. My mom has a 2013 2500 crew cab with the 6.7l turbo cummins. She bought the truck like half a year ago with moderate mileage stacked on the odometer. Its currently having this service def system message pop up. today is the first time its ever happened so im crossing my fingers and hoping this is the issue. Im pretty ignorant when it comes to the computerized stuff. My dad was a heavy equipment mechanic and could tackle pretty much anything given the proper tools and space to handle whatever project it may have been. Unfortunately he passed away october of 2019, so im stepping up to the plate and embracing mechanics. Never worked on a diesel in my life. I understand what makes them run. My specialty is small block chevy, I just had a set of 1.94 camelhump heads rebuilt for a small block im building up. Really would like to save mom the 3k if I can. People like you make life easy for people like me. Thanks for the video and pointing me in the direction of the other channel. I will say this, if I ever buy a dodge, im getting a 93 extended cab 4x4 2500 with the Allison 5 speed and the 5.9 turbo cummins. My dad had one and it was the coolest truck ever. The shifter knob was an old glass door knob and sometimes it would turn like a purple color. Stay safe and keep truckin.

Mine did this 1700 miles from home in Nebraska while pulling a camper with family. Local dealer said they were too busy and wouldn’t even reset the countdown till limp mode to get me to the next dealer. Truck was still under warranty. Found a local guy that deleted it for 1500 bucks the same day and threw the crap in the garbage. Best money I ever spent.

The big problem with all the pollution controls on the diesels is the parts are all aftermarket. The engine manufacturers dont make the parts. The makers dont have any incentive to fix the defective parts just minimal warranty on them. We all should be pushing for legislation to mandate 10yr parts and labour warranty on all parts related to the pollution controls from the date of sale regardless of how many times the vehicle changes hands

My husband and I want to thank you for making this video. You explained it very well. I have a 2014 Ram 2500, and over a week ago, I was in town when the DEF message came on with the 150-mile warning. I got it home, looked it up on KZread, found your video, and had a hard time finding the pump, but I finally found one and ordered an injector. I ordered the pump tool from your Amazon link (thank you so much for that). My husband put it in no problems. When I started the truck, the DEF message went away. We drove it a short distance a few times. Then I took it to town, which is 45 miles. To get my check engine light to go off, we did not have a code reader. So found out if you turn the key two clicks before it starts 4 times, let all the dash lights finish before you go on to the next, then one more time but when all the dash lights go out, start the truck. So you do it five times, and on the 5th time, you start the vehicle. Check Engine Light went out right away. The first time I did it, I went too fast, and it did not work. Thank you again. It saved us half what they were going to charge to fix.

@trucksandrecreation

2 жыл бұрын

How many miles were on your truck when this went out

@4MRanch

2 жыл бұрын

Light came on first of June at 180 some thousand miles. I cleaned the injector and cleaned out the hose and that got me by till about the end of September and then the pump quit altogether.

@kimweber7709

2 жыл бұрын

@@trucksandrecreation a little over 128,000 mile

@jeremyanderson7493

Жыл бұрын

I got a 2021 ram 3500 w/ 135,000 miles on it and my def system is going out

@slingshotengage

9 ай бұрын

Ty Sir, you are superman!!

Dealers are the worst. I have had so many arguments with dealers about their practices and gouging customers over simple fixes. Wish there was some kind of regulation for them to be held accountable.

Thank you for posting this! I was driving from the LA area to Las Vegas on a Friday and near the Nevada/California state line I got the dreaded "limp mode" message. Of course I freaked because I was 240 miles from home! The next day I took my 2016 2500 to local Ram dealer in Vegas. I asked them to run the code so maybe they could narrow the issue to a sensor, pump or sensor. The folks at Chapman Ram were great but unfortunately the code was very generic. They told me since I was from out of town, they could squeeze me in and have their diesel tech take a look at it more deeply for a fee but they couldn't do any actual work on it for days. I had this issue before, a few months after I bought the truck new. I got the injector replaced under warranty back in 2016, so I figured it may be the injector again and maybe if I just clean it like you mentioned, I would be good. So before I agreed to have the diesel tech look at, I went to an auto parts store, bought a small metric ratchet set, found a shady spot in 108 degree Vegas and went to work. Sure enough, the injector was all crystalized. I cleaned it and after 2 restarts, the message cleared! Drove home the next day and the message hasn't returned since! BIG THANKS again for posting this and saving me from a nightmare!

@4MRanch

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you got it working. Try running peak blue def platinum. I’ve been having far less build up running that.

Thank you young man, you just saved me 3600CAD!!!! God bless you son

So very cool of you to take the time to share this information. Bless you man! My Notification popped up but then went away. I'm gonna go through this routine as a preemptive move anyway. Thank you so much for taking the time to put this together to help people!

@4MRanch

Жыл бұрын

Your welcome glad I could help. Thanks for watching

Thank you. I had almost identical story as you did. I decided to take diagnosis in my own hands because the dealers explanation was not adding up that everything went bad at once.

Thanks for your video. Very informative. Appreciate you going through the trouble of getting under the truck and pointing out the parts.

I just took my truck to dodge dealership with same issue. I found out if you overfill the DEF tank your pump will not pump. Plus the level gauge is slow to react so you need to be patient when filling. They drained about a gallon out of tank and pump started pumping. Just a issue I had for your viewers.

@cartmenkillsyou

2 жыл бұрын

Would you mind providing more detail? This is exactly what I am dealing with and my mpg has dropped to 11 with an empty trailer. Doesn’t make sense, I had a feeling the dpf wasn’t getting cleaned. Do you drain from the filler or the tank itself?

@wh8085

2 жыл бұрын

@@cartmenkillsyou Delete the system and fuel mileage will go up !

@rhumpher9a

2 жыл бұрын

That's strange because when the guage says it's down to 1/4 tank, I always refill then. I usually go to truck stops while towing or 5th wheel and able to fill both my fuel & def tanks from there pumps and pay for both. But as I'm filling after about 2 gallons it registered full but traveling cross the country I try to to off both tanks. After guage read full I've continued & out in atleast another 2-3 halls of def until it actually over file it once but my 2013 6.7 Cummins didn't have any problem you mentioned about being overfilled!!!

@rhumpher9a

2 жыл бұрын

And it did continue to pump def as the guage always registers it as going down as i drive!!! This was continued from previous reply by me.

I had a shop foreman years ago, totally lost it in the shop at all of the mechanics--- " I hired mechanics in this shop, not replacement jockies!!! You make damned sure a part is bad & not guess it`s bad !!!" In todays dealerships, they call themselves "technicians" but are replacement jockies !!! If they can`t dazzle you with brilliance, they baffle you with bullsh--t !!

@wh8085

3 жыл бұрын

And that ain't no shi it !

@HeyWatchMeGo

5 ай бұрын

ALWAYS tell them you want the parts back that they took out (when they replaced something). It helps a BIT to keep them honest. You own those parts, your have a right to get them back.

@BlackKnight-ll8qh

4 ай бұрын

Couldn’t be more true

Thats why they call them "Stealerships".

The small plastic clips located around the electric connection is just a simple pinching them together to release. Don't need to pull or separate from around the electrical connector. Also to check the def flow make sure the electrical component is connected with the def line disconnected. Simple start and press the pedal....it will flow out instantly. Also stated by other's just a quick rinse of hit water ( not boiling hot just tab water hot) washes away very quickly so soaking isn't needed. Small screw driver or old stuff bristle brush helps. Thanks for the video 👍

I went back to gas trucks but thanks for your helping everyone out. I’ll pass it on if I hear of a diesel owner with similar problem.

You are a hero, the dealer stressed me out and starting talking ridiculous amounts of money. Thank you

This is why I love KZread! Thank you sir!

Thks a lot for posting. I bet this is going to help a lot of folks. Thanks again for sharing.

Great video. I just got this message this morning. Going to start troubleshooting from the injector and supply line. Thank you.

Best video on this problem that I have seen yet! Well done!

Thanks for the info! You, sir, are a hero in a world of dealership villains. Take care Pard.

Thanks for the info on how to hopefully fix this situation. A new Ford 6.7 owner here. Still learning.

Thank you so much you save me 600 miles away from home I did it it works thank you so much

Thank you so much for posting man. I needed some direction and I had the same thing happened to me today and I've been crazy looking for the right video. The only thing is, would've been super nice if you recorded what you did and posted it as well but I get it.

Thanks for the video! You’re right to ALWAYS question the dealer.

@rhumpher9a

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but I've been lied to many times from different dealers and know better because I'm a diesel mechanic and they do not know I'm am!!!

Love my 21 Ram 2500 but stuff like this makes me appreciate my old 2017 Tundra

I deleted mine on my 19-2500. With deleting and programming it was $1500. Now it sounds better,pulls better, and gets around 2-3 more mpg. And has a lot more power.

@kenle3419

2 жыл бұрын

I have a 16 and this just happened with 30K miles. I have a good diesel mech, but will he know this? I'm in CA where emissions are crazy - any negatives when I get it smogged?

@curtissharris8914

2 жыл бұрын

@@kenle3419 I think in CA you wouldn't do it.

@bigounce5893

2 жыл бұрын

@@kenle3419 in California getting caught with an emissions delete on a diesel will cost you a lot in fines

@23ELSANCHO

2 жыл бұрын

Where'd you have this done ?

THANK YOU SO MUCH! I'm out of state and this happened to me. 15 mins after it cooled down I had the injector cleaned and back in! It was exactly like you said! 🎉🎉🎉

@4MRanch

Жыл бұрын

Good deal! 👍🏼

You got subscriber for this video alone. Thank you for watching out for the rest of us.

@4MRanch

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Thank you very much for sharing that My friend!

Videos like this are my favorite. Thanks for sharing.

Great info, thanks for taking the time to do this video

@4MRanch

3 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help. Please subscribe

Thanks for the video! I have a '16 RAM 2500 and it threw a P207F code and was on the dreaded 5mph countdown. After watching your video thought I would take a shot in the dark and check the DEF injector. It was over 50% clogged from buildup. I cleaned it all up with a wet rag and put it back together and let the truck idle for ~10min and it cleared the permanent code. Back in business with a 10min job. I highly suggest spraying the bolts with WD-40 and letting them sit a while. My bolts came out no problem. Thanks again!!

@4MRanch

Жыл бұрын

Cool I’m glad it worked for you!! For sure on the wd. Don’t want those to break off. I used high temp copper anti-seize on the reinstall. Thanks for watching an commenting.

Awesome informative Video experience Y'alls God Bless Ya 🙌🙏

Good for you man. These dealerships will take advantage of us in a minute. Thanks for your time and video!

@4MRanch

3 жыл бұрын

No problem 👍

Thank you sir. You are a patriot for this great information.

@4MRanch

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks please subscribe.

Very informative, Thank you for your video

Thank you so much brother!

Excellent video, appreciate the info

Good to know. Thanks for sharing

Wow thank you so much for this video 🙏

The absolute most informative video to the issues I’m having lol. Thanks a lot man. I just got that very same message today saying I got 150 till limp mode. I’m almost to the point to deleting the entire thing. Such a hassle with these things.

@4MRanch

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah same here if it gives me anymore costly trouble. I’ll have to do it. Mine is doing good though 6 months no issues. Hope you get yours fixed soon.

Appreciate all the info, hope this works for the issue I'm having with my 2020 Ram 2500

good information, always skeptical about dealership work, most are part changers now days

Good video! It “pays” to be curious 🧐. Thanks for sharing.

Great video. I get that notice a couple of times, but it usually clears itself. But nice to know what to do when it doesn’t clear. Thanks bud.

@DClairRobinson

3 жыл бұрын

They should for sure carve out an exception for schoolbusses at least.

@4MRanch

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Thanks brother 🙏

Thanks for the video bro I did end up paying $3200 to the dealer to replace the def pump.

Thanks for video.....good information!

Hey man. Thanks for the video! I have the same problem. I'll clean my injector first!!!

@adam18ams

3 жыл бұрын

Did it fix your problem

Great info 👍. Thanks

Thanks alot for the good clear information to cure this code!!! The dealers all will take ya to the cleaners if you let them!!! Thanks again.

@4MRanch

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I wouldn’t say it’s a cure for everybody’s truck but it’s definitely something to check and see if it works before spending the money on it

Good looking out for us diesel owners with the ram

I got a service engine warring on my 98 Ford ranger. My cats were dead. All three. And Ford wanted 3,600$ . All 3cats baught from a muffler shop. was baught for 880$. I learned to not trust dealer repairs quickly tks om good show.

Thanks for doing this video. 😊

May God bless you for posting this video you just saved me from these scam mechanics i appreciate it 🙏

@4MRanch

Жыл бұрын

No problem thanks for watching

Sounds like the Diesel mechanics only come in to work when these “cake” jobs are available to work on. Great video & information

DEF is the worst thing the feds did to diesel trucks. More problems and money to fix your truck . fuel is expensive enough and we have to buy and keep full this pig piss that helps keep the black exhaust down . I Will keep my 05 ram 3500 with a 3rd gen 5.9. So far 231367 miles and still going strong . she is old but allot more reliable than some of the new diesels being sold today.

Ah the mechanic at the dealership was actually just a parts salesman.

Hey brother, thank you so much for this video! I have the same issue. I am going to try this weekend!

@4MRanch

11 ай бұрын

Hope it works

My 2018 just had the DEF injector fail at 68K miles. A simple ohm check showed the coil open. I've always used the cheap Walmart DEF fluid but I do tow a lot so the injector was clean. Dealer charged me $340 for the new injector. Found it online cheaper but I did not have time to wait for shipment.

Very informative video. Totally jealous of the side ram boxes!

@4MRanch

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, they are nice to have to store ratchet straps an tools

@adamg9518

2 жыл бұрын

Or fishing gear!

@4MRanch

2 жыл бұрын

They actually do make a rod holder than goes in there

Thanks for this video. Think I am having the same issue. Will be working on my truck this weekend. First thing I am checking is my injector

@4MRanch

3 ай бұрын

No problem hope it helps

Thank you for your video same thing happen to me today

Great information thanks.

@4MRanch

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Bro, this is GOLD! Thanks so much!

@4MRanch

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man

Excellent explanation to save us a bucket of cash!

My 2017 3500 just did this today, cleaned the injector like you said. I took an ice pic to clean it out, it was blocked pretty good. Cleared codes and reset. Engine light off and no codes showing. Thanks for video👍🏻

@4MRanch

2 жыл бұрын

Good deal

@LifeWithKernelLee

2 жыл бұрын

@@4MRanch just subbed

@4MRanch

2 жыл бұрын

@@LifeWithKernelLee thank you!

Thanks for the info! Nice to know!!!

@4MRanch

Жыл бұрын

Any time!

Great job lad!

Thanks for this

Dealer told me pump and tank are a sealed unit so thanks for the information

@4MRanch

3 жыл бұрын

The pump is a sealed unit but you can definitely remove the pump from the tank.

yeah, we had the same thing on a new Ram diesel back in 2018, and the dealer replaced injector, pump, tank, AND filler hose with cap! Shotgun approach!! Would have been around $3,000., but since we have a fleet of these, we got a HUGE discount! GREAT job on fixing that yourself! Saved yourself a TON of money AND time!! Yeah, probably old DEF caused the crystals to form.. Common problem, since DEF is mostly distilled water, and evaporates quickly, leaving just the urea, and that stuff gets like rocksalt!

@4MRanch

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah they wanted 3k just for pump an injector only. I couldn’t afford to maintain a fleet of them it would be costly. Unfortunately the pump went out finally a few weeks ago but I fixed it myself. I did at least make it a few months long by cleaning the injector. Thanks for watch the video and leaving a comment.

@ramecodiesel8271

3 жыл бұрын

The age of the DEF does not matter as far as crystallization is concerned, old DEF or new DEF both will crystallize. Peak has developed BlueDEF Platinum that is supposed to help keep the DEF from crystallizing.

Thanks, super helpful. Anything that keeps me away from the dealer will save me thousands of dollars.

thank you for your time. happen to my truck when i used blue def . dealer toll me can't used blue def. make me nerve now when leaving town

@4MRanch

3 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help

That shop had the parts cannon fully loaded. Should be ashamed to call themselves mechanics. It's normally a dead give away they have no idea what's actually wrong when they say all parts in the system are faulty. Nice video

That’s why they call them Stealer- ships Steal your $$! Good for you on the smart fix and saving huge dollars for nothing! I have personally just had my 2017 Ram 3500 Def/ egr deleted , no more issues! More power, more fuel economy 👍

@wh8085

3 жыл бұрын

If you do delete the EGR , does that disable the whole DEF system without removing the rest of the parts ? TIA . . . .I've got a light on my dash right now throwing a P202C code. They say it is the upper heater but can't even order one until June 30th. , they looked at it April 28th. So, driving it hoping it doesn't throw the 150 mile warning before I can get something done . Im in a state that doesn't do inspections so I'm really leaning toward losing a few parts on a bumpy road .

@b10santaana98

3 жыл бұрын

Where do I take my truck to if I wanna delete

@jerrykuster7672

3 жыл бұрын

@@b10santaana98 you will have to go online snd dig around for a shop that will do deletes. Depends on your state . In my case , The egr was deleted by adding a EFI live tune ( 45 hp ) increase for fuel economy. The egr is left in the closed position snd the computer reprogrammed as not to notice it any more. The hard ware remains as it still looks operational but the wiring harness is disconnected and ends taped for water intrusion protection. The def delete involves remove the entire exhaust and related hardware, the def tank remains and a new flow pro exhaust was installed. The truck drives better, sounds better, breathes better, and 15-20% increase in fuel economy.

@b10santaana98

2 жыл бұрын

@@jerrykuster7672 I bought my ram truck from cheverolet but they can’t fix it they send me to dodge dealer should I get a lawyer or what

good for you. Thank you. Now I'll be prepared

These dealership mechanics are scroundrels, my brother bought a ford edge but didnt get the key pad codes for the door locks with it and the dealer mech told him it would take an hour hooked up to a computer to retrieve the #'s and it was gonna cost $300. So I found a youtube vid and had him watch it cause it has the #code up under the dash on a sticker which he could look on his own and retrieve for free👍

Good info thanks

Had this exact thing happen to me with my previous 2015. Happened while loaded in Indiana and I live in WV scared me to death I wasn’t gonna make it home lol. Ended up unplugging one of the batteries and tried starting it to reset it and that worked long enough to get me home but mine started at 200 miles. I ended up spending about 5k though. Crazy how the prices were different for you and I lol.

@flat6fever680

Жыл бұрын

5k on what exactly?

Thank you for this video you just save me 3k dlls too!

Walked into the dealership with every intention on buying a brand new 2021 ram 2500. Left with a 2006 Ram 3500 5.9 Cummins. None of that emissions crap under the hood.

@4MRanch

3 ай бұрын

Nothing wrong with a 5.9

REALLY good video. Thanks!!

@4MRanch

5 ай бұрын

Thank you

Thanks for the info

@4MRanch

9 ай бұрын

No problem

That's what's up thank my man.

This is a very useful video

Great info thanks

@4MRanch

Жыл бұрын

Your welcome

Why are all car dealerships damn shady? Good for you brother! I don't trust any dealerships, and your situation is a prime example

Great information this will really save millions of dlls thrown in the scam dealers , rippers they abuse of all diesel truck owner's.

I am so glad I got the banks idash and pedal monster. The idash monitors all of the temps including the transmission ( 68rfe) piece of crap. Would like to install the intake horn and boost tubes .

Great Vid.... explain alot

Add a water methanol injection if you're out of warranty. It helps clean the DPF and will delay regeneration from about 110 miles to over 200 miles. Really helps with MPG. Diesel Power magazine did a study b4 they went under...

Thanks bro

Thank you for the heads up. Just confirms how dealerships are rip offs.